@@brownhairydog6472 then why did they update the Tacoma, Tundra, Land Cruiser LC300 and 4Runner? Sales were tanking for those but somehow not for Hilux or Fortuner?
@@AmmarMalik of course they update models. But you're missing the point, Toyota more than any other manufacturer knows what their fan base wants. Cheapish, reliable, no frills. Resale values on all Toyotas reflect this. Prado still sells big after a decade on sale. I don't own a new Hilux but I'd take a 10 year old one over anything else same age. And best thing is it would like like a current one!
Not necessarily mad. It all depends on what will be on offer. If the next generation is a petrol battery Hilux, then this current diesel version would be the better choice for many.
@@simmo6035 yea and what are you constantly trying to update? Even a iPhone gets minimal updates every year it’s not worth buying get a phone every 3yrs to actually maybe notice some differences.
This is what the world's biggest car company has to offer us in 2024 for 70k. A Half arsed hybrid, with a full fat ute price. Seems like the mantra at Toyota nowadays.
where do you see half "assed" hybrid?! this is just a minor refresh before the real hardcore hybrid arrives probaby from the 4runner system powertrain.
@@carholic-sz3qv So you agree? Why bother with this 'barely a facelift' model if not to distract from their severe lack of development in the EV or PHEV ute space. It may be the best Hilux yet, but that doesn't mean much anymore.
Test drove the Rogue 48V last week, list price $76K Absolute shocking road travelling car. Rear Hopped out over the bridge connection on Hume hwy north of Seymour. Ridiculous road dynamic, compared to the VW Amarok 2024 which is test driven just prior. I wouldn’t pay $50K for the rogue given it’s archaic interior and road ability. Yeah it might be a good rock climber but I want something that can be driven in comfort and safety to the off road destination. $47990 I would of brought it
I just picked mine up about an hour before you posted this, but I am really happy with it so far. I like how it looks inside too. But I havent had a new car in 12 years, so it feels super modern. You give the best explanation on the hybrid system, better than the dealer explained.
@@shakeelali20 It did everything I wanted. They have an awesome reputation, and the dealer is close. I looked at everything else, seriously thought about an Amarok, but the dealer looked like they didn't want to sell one. I also really like the smaller info screen, analogue gauges and the motor has been around for ages, and is super reliable
I've had the first gen Rogue hilux from 2018 bought brand new. I'm becoming very impatient with toyota, in bringing a new chasis/drivetrain hilux range. Its been 6 years and they've barely updated the car and yet still expecting customers to pay top dollar for an outdated vehicle with barely any changes in their models! 🖕
0-100km/hr in 10.42 seconds? Yikes this thing is slow. The interior looks like a vehicle from 10 years ago. Honestly cannot believe this is considered "new". Yet it will sell. So odd.
In Europe Toyota Europe have a big problem with certification of 2.8 engine and we still dont have models Hilux Gr sport 2 and dont have Hilux 48v mild hybrid.Our neighbour Ukrainian have gr sport 2 until september 2023r. This is fault of ***** European Union. Now september 2024 we cant buy any new Hilux😢
I respectfully disagree that Toyota are "doing it the smart way". They're doing it, to be as polite as I can, the disappointing way. So disappointing that my next car won't be a Toyota, which will be a first for me.
It doesn’t replace the starter motor! It’s still there and it’s used when you first start the engine with the start button. The BSG takes over once the engine has been first started, but the traditional starter motor is still there and used every time you start the engine with the starter button
Diesels use almost no fuel at idle, so pretty pointless. Tech tutor told auto tech class that a diesels can idle for one minute on the same amount of fuel required to start.
Has anyone actually checked that ground clearance that Toyota claims ? Normally the lowest point above ground on the pickup truck is the rear diff, and its height above ground basically depends on the tire size. The Hilux normally has the same tire size as most other pickups in the segment (265/60/R18), however they claim to have about 3,5-4,5 cm more ground clearance than the competition. Unless their rear diff has some revolutionary design, and I don't see that it does, what is all this about ?
Shit camera is an understatement. Looks like a container load from 1990s still being fitted for this price range. I bought the Missus a Mazda 6 and it shits all over the Toyota. Headlights in Toyota Rogue are woeful. Really Toyota what were you thinking for a vehicle at this price point... Mazda headlights are farkin awsome. Same as rear cameta and infotainment system. Shits all over Toyota. We've been had and I trusted Toyota development to be second to none lsst year. What a disappointment. I might take it back.
Farming bullshit Mate. I'm st 6000km and 12.7 per hundred and I don't live in the city. Everytime I start my Hilux it does 60km highway. Five percent from eliminating idling is a farming lie. That diesel would idle all day on a litre of fuel.
@@javic1979 have a mate in a Ford dealership that told me to stay well away from it after wanting to trade up from my 2016 Amarok. He was the reason I stayed well clear of the new VW and Ford and I’m glad I did
My 2023 Rogue gets 11.9, but running A/T tyres, a bullbar and a snorkel. All these affect the fuel economy. But the fuel doesn't really bother me, as I like the car too much.
I get 9.1L/100Km in my 2017 standard SR dual cab ute auto. So where's the saving? What's the point? How long will the 48v battery last and how much to replace? Just looks like more stuff to break and replace.
The Hilux needs an update ASAP. The new model could even be a facelift Tacoma. I'd consider it over any other option still, since in Europe the competition is at similar prices, but with smaller displacement engines.
I completely agree. They need to replace this HiLux range with a new generation and they do have the new Tacoma as a template. Smaller displacement engines are great as long as they build them to be reliable and to last. Face it, who would have imagines ten years ago that a 2.8 diesel would make as much power as the 1HD FT-E 4.2 unit and trounce it with 100Nm more torque while also using about 25% less fuel? It’s only a matter of degrees that rivals get exactly the same power and torque out of a 2.0 engine. As long as Ford get their timing belt issue sorted, which they promise they now have done, it may well be the gold standard for others to beat in future. That’s not to denigrate the Toyota 2.8 at all, because it is a cracking engine in every way.
@@hedydd2 The Mitsubishi L200 (Triton) currently out of EU market due to emissions. The Nissan Navara with a weak timing chain system. Ford Ranger and VW Amarok using a wet timing belt. The Isuzu D-Max with a small 2.0L Bi-Turbo engine. The Hilux 2.4 at similar prices, it's like a no brainer.
@@RogerM88 The L200 out of the EU has nothing to do with Emissions. Mitsubishi have completely and permanently withdrawn all their business from Europe and Nissan have shut their European Navara factory in Spain and have abandoned the pickup truck market over the vast region. The D-Max is only available here with the lethargic and outdated 1.9 diesel while the almost equally lethargic HiLux 2.4 has been mostly replaced by the rather good 2.8 with 200hp and 500Nm torque. The same engine as will be fitted to the new Land Cruiser 250. By far the best pickups at the moment are the Ford and VW and sales reflect this, only limited by supply for the moment. Toyota hybrid is interesting but they do need a new generation model to compete with and leapfrog the best rivals. Rivals that will have their own hybrids very soon.
@@hedydd2 The Ranger and Amarok better? Probably because it's a newer platform. But having a wet belt is a huge pass for me. Check the issues with the 2.0L in the Transit. I'd take this outdated Hilux over both.
Not sure if by adding wanna be bulky panels how manufacturers justify price raise? Or maybe the target market is too dumb. Paul is always after a bigger infotainment screen 😂
your course for the hill test is not consistent , the surface on the hill in the hilux review is much more firm, compared to the triton review, ill also point out that the triton tires was caked in mud vs the hilux review , you can literally see the threading on the wheel when the you attempted to do the hill test from the middle. your reviews are excellent , but i am just pointing out my observation i looked at the triton and hilux back to back. i am pretty sure if the triton tires had less mud caked on it would have made it up, also it is evident that the hilux comes with better tires from the factory
Toyota is quite confusing with its hybrid applications. Completely different approaches when comparing their car's hybrid system to the truck's. According to Toyota, when they had launched the tundra hybrid in North America, they focus more on delivering quite more overall power to the truck than efficiency. That didn't stop buyers from assuming that the mpg would be a lot better than the regular truck. Also, I've read the press release on this truck and Toyota said that you'll most likely see their claimed fuel economy, if the vehicle is mostly driven in urban or off-road conditions. So far, I see no value in getting this truck. You're not getting more power for the money, the efficiency only matters if you're doing urban or off-road driving, so forget about seeing any reduced mpg figures if you're doing any highway miles. The interior looks like crap for a +$50k (US), 2024 vehicle. It's better to wait for the 2025 model.
@@richardtimms6645 Review "The best recommendation I EVER got to buy one was from a tow truck driver on the Gold Coast, he only picks up cars that are going in for warranty repairs. He said he picks up several GWM’s a day and about 15-20 other new utes a week for various reasons. He said in the past year he’s towed ONE Musso, and it turned out to only be a fuse due to owner doing dodgy wiring for spotlights. No fault of Ssangyong after all. Across the three Musso’s I’ve had, I’ve clocked 135,000km in 3 years, one warranty claim for paint flaking off the front badge - that’s it."
This is by far Toyota's most reliable ute and that mild hybrid and multi terrain select system is pushed the Hilux to yonder heights. I love the Rogue. The entertainment system is still okay I love the JBL 9 speaker sound system. Bravo Toyota. Love that pick up.
Another well thought out and delivered review mate I picked my rogue up yesterday Replaced my 2022 sr5 Throttle response is so much better My stop start comes up as unavailable sometimes I believe it’s linked to a/c being on auto it won’t stop engine if there’s a differential to outside Very happy with it
You can tell on the rough road/ condensed sine when there's rattling noises and Paul's voice is all jittery, it's not ACTUALLY all 'nice and comfortable' :)
Would be good if you could put two new Hiluxs together with and without the 48v v active tech and do a direct comparison between the two, in terms of weight, performance, features and how the 48v v active system works not only in what was mentioned in this blog but in terms of regeneration, where the MGU charges the battery and when it does this. I understand like in a manual, that it provides a bit of an engine brake, as soon as you take your foot off the accelerator. So a more technical review of the system would be great. Also is it possible to flatten the battery.
I’ve got a feeling these Thai utes with their aging platforms are going to struggle to sell soon with some stiff competition on its way over the next twelve months from China & Korea that will be 10 to 20k cheaper with longer warranties. Poor quality cameras, belt driven electric motors, shorter warranties, crazy service costs etc etc etc in a $70k vehicle just won’t be acceptable in the very near future I would expect . Nice review. 👍
@@citizen1l People are buying on reputation alone and waiting absurd amounts of time for basic SUVs and hatchbacks. I don't know why anyone would wait upwards of 12 months for a RAV4 when there's a dozen competitors available right now that'll do the same if not a better job. It's Toyota's reputation that sells their cars, not the tech, pricing or actual reliability.
@@shakeelali20 a reliability that is 30 years old. Nowadays they are as reliable as any other brand. Only caviar is parts availability that also comes from a legacy of old school reliability.
I don't understand the acceptance of the vast differences between performance without acknowledging differences in atmospheric conditions and manufacturing tolerances. There is no way you have enough data to eliminate random errors sufficient to provide a verdict. Car performance can change from AM to PM let alone between different cars and different days/months/years!
@@ryanlane4 well it’s referred to a hybrid or a mild hybrid in this video. Either way, very misleading or most likely these journalists are being told to call it this by the motor company.
And everyone wonders why the Chinese utes are eating into the market. Times are though and dollars are hard to come by. So let me think ...... hmmmm ... ah yes a fully equiped Chinese ute and $20000.00 more in the bank suites 90% of the market. Toyota etc have been milking the market. Still are. Compare this ute to the new GWM Alpha to see what I mean.
American here. I watch this channel and think, “man, I wish those utes were sold here.” Even our smallest trucks are gigantic now. In general, do Australians wish they could get the ‘24 USDM Tacoma (or any of our enormous trucks)?
I think people want something different so a Tacoma would probably sell well but talking to people that have lived in the states and here they say a Hilux is a better option once the novelty has worn off. As a Hilux tragic I'd love to rent a Tacoma for a week or two just to see the difference.
Aussies overwhelmingly DO NOT want the massive American trucks driving around on roads and carparks which were never designed for vehicles of their size. They've clearly found a solid niche following with the Lifestyle ute buyers, as I've yet to see one (and I see plenty more than I should daily) that's actually being used for work a Hilux/Ranger/Amarok couldn't do. I've heard the old towing/heavy hauling arguments before, but at that point you'd be better served by something diesel powered and designed for work, not something with nappa leather and a petrol V8.
@@shakeelali20 we deal with the towing argument here too. People buy $90K USD diesel trucks (with Napa leather) that can tow 18000 kilos just in case they decide to buy a 2000 kilo fishing boat. Then they use that truck to take the kids to school every day.
What does that 3 kn tow load equate to in the real world , e.g. 2000kg caravan , 3000 kg caravan etc . ? The fuel consumption when towing was pretty awful I thought.
I understand that people love the Hilux but I hope at somepoint the sales starts to decline because I don't think Toyota will release the next-gen because the Hilux is still sellable but I can't wait for the next gen I hope it will be released sometime next year.
9.5/100kms is 30MPG UK and I’m getting 3MPG better than that except when towing form my standard 150kW 500Nm two litre Ford Ranger. Easily get 8/100kms or 35MPG UK on a long journey at normal legal speeds.
India needs ethanol-gasoline flex fuel turbo with hybrid electric. Automatic 4x4 & all adas, creature comforts. This will be in tune with ethanol biofuel government encouragement to boost farmer incomes & self-dependency in energy. Huge market is untapped in comfortable & effective & powerful stylish 4x4 trucks.
The advantages are minimal, more like a tax bending feature. Similar as here in Portugal, where double cab Utes are also offered with a 3 seat configuration to avoid paying more taxes.
Completely disagree. A PHEV is the perfect ute. Use electricity to and from work during the week, and then down to the farm on week end whilst towing. Also stops the diesel doing short crappy runs.
Toyote real name is Toyoda sewing machine textile company ,Toyota car is not good driving performance handling experience ,it just popular after Toyota move production marketing by American brand such as supra alphard continental Tacoma sequoia ECT,,Toyota car are duplicate copied American and European brand not the Japanese origin like Mitsubishi ,Toyota in many segment can't defeated Mitsubishi interm of Technology as world champion invention😂
This is the equivalent of the Hilux Conquest in the Philippines, although not a hybrid and the variant in the Philippines already got an updated infotainment screen.
Carry extra wieght with battery to power accessaries lol. U use more fuel carryng the battery than any fuel efficiency. Trickery and gimicktry. People fall for it. To pricey for what u van get.
my one is none hybrid. only issue i am having is the steering wheel pulls you on left if you take off your hands .. once you bring it back to center of the road then it will go slightly on right .... engine is just bit loud not smooth as i was expecting model 2024 SR5 Cruiser
After driving constant AWD Ute you just don't wanna step back. twisty roads, towing or wet weather AWD makes a huge improvement. oh and it cuts back tyre wear. I'm hanging onto my Amarok until it falls apart. the 40/60 split AWD is a weapon on the twisty stuff
Correction at 11.00 in the video, the 48v hilux still has a 12volt starter motor. The 48v motor/generator replaces the alternator. To stop start, the m/g turns the engine crank on the serpentine belt with 40Nm of torque for a very fast restart. The 12v starter motor is still there for cold starts at the beginning of the day. I picked my sr5 up 4 weeks ago.
Ford and VW will soon roll out a mild hybrid before the end of 2025 for deliver from mid 2025. It will probably be fitted with the 2.0 diesel plus an electric generator and motor that will outclass the current 3.0 V6 diesel whose order book for Europe has closed since last September 2023. A few ordered just before then for stock and sold orders are now landing on dealer forecourts. Not sure how many shipments of the 3.0 are left to be delivered to the UK which gets them from South Africa.
So for the additional cost, for most, no improvement. Hybrid should have serious economy and power improvement. Its kinda like Toyota is taking the piss and pretending to invent something 'new'....that doesnt achieve anything at all.
Interior old infotainment old, camera poor, interior basic not really $80k in my mind but I like the hybrid & performance. Noise levels are good too. Probably wait for the next one if I had the coin.
