Very nice showcase or signature car. Don't really see much point for all that performance in a family SUV, though. Driving that car to its potential would just get me arrested.
Good thumbnail! Great car and for me, I would want a sunroof! Are you selling your ELR to get your next electric ride? I know you’re thinking Caddy again, but this is certainly compelling, especially if you are keeping the Miata for the top-down days. Thanks Tom!
@phillm156 Biermann hasn’t been head of N or R&D since 2021. He retired and is a technical advisor. But yes, his affect on the N division is still felt today.
@@eloneatmyshorts Till Wartenberg, who was with Albert Bielman from The all-new ELANTRA N World Premiere 8:20, is now Vice President of N Brand&Motorsport Sub-Division. Albert Bielman remains an Executive Technical Advisor and recently joined us at Goodwood. As you can see from the N 2025 Vision Gran Turismo, N BRAND has had electric vehicles in mind since the start of 2015, and was already creating and testing the RM20e before 2020. And N Vision 74 has plans for mass production. As you can see from the Genesis X Concept, The technologies tested and acquired at N, together with expensive materials such as air suspension and lightweight materials, will ultimately be completed at the luxury brand GENESIS.
Too bad he couldn't figure out the clutch pedal. The Elantra N has the longest engagement I've ever experienced. Same with Porsche. He got everything else right and then some.
Ha! My wife is the one that was really pushing for the EV6 GT when I got mine. I didn't have to sell her on it! She would love this car. She has a regular Ioniq 5 now.
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You know, a couple months ago I would have said that most of this is pointless. But after talking with so many people who are hesitant to buy an EV, the vroom vroom noise is a HUGE stickler for them (And none of them track their cars, so the artificial noises aren't going to help them in every day driving). To them, it doesn't feel real without the noise. Also having fake shifts will make the car slower (Assuming it actually limits power), but I think a lot of the vroom vroom drivers will really enjoy it. So this is actually brilliant and I hope it converts some ICE drivers. And I hope they get used to the normal EV stuff so that they don't have to add all this stuff to every EV and add some cost to them. Also, your video showcases these noises super well. Better than others I've watched. Thanks for the high quality video!!!
I talked to the engineers and the "shifts" do little if anything to alter performance. I'm really not a piped in sound guy but these were fun to play with. Curious how it would be after a year.
Enjoyable and informative. Would have liked to have more video from the top of the corkscrew to the bottom, but some of your shots going into it were new to me, and great! Always appreciative of your excellent production values.
This is the marriage of video games and a car. I can see where the engine noise provides more information to the driver, what’s the rest of it is just programming the inadequacies of an ICE into an electric. The time and expense of a transmission would never have been engineered had that not been a shortcoming of an ICE
Savagegeese seems to overly praise the Macan EV Turbo in a ridiculous way. They're foolish, talking nonsense while trying so hard to get sponsored by Porsche. Tsk tsk.
Fantastic review, Tom. The Ioniq 5 N is not about imitating a combustion engine car. Rather it’s about physics. There’s states of motion called derivatives of position. When we feel acceleration (or the opposite - deceleration) we are experiencing derivatives of position. Race car drivers are attuned to rate of change of position, where they may experience many G forces up to the third order derivative. For fighter pilots or astronauts, perhaps fourth or fifth order derivative. Back to racing, when you attack a turn, you make a prediction on what gear you need to be in (correlating the torque) and you need feedback (the sound of rpm rise and fall + momentum changes due to gearing) at precise moments. If you did not have gearing, like with a single-speed transmission or sound, like with current EVs, you have to micromanage the speed to sense the sweet spot. This is slower to register in the brain compared to sensing gear and rpm. So, the quest with Ioniq 5 N was to synthesize the analog feedback of a DCT. It’s not a domain characteristic of just combustion engine cars anymore, they were just first. Performance driving requires rich signals to be given back to the driver and it can be programmed in a digital electric car. It also happens to be fun because our evolution to action make us very responsive to sound and movement.
You nailed it. I've been calling it dynamic feedback for a lack of a better word. Actual driving enthusiasts understand what Hyundai has achieved. IMO it's a game changer. It won't be long until all EVs follow suit.
@11:32 You actually gain a bit of interior space in the I5N with the N-Light seats, as they are slimmer/thinner than the regular I5 seats. So, the I5N does have roomier interior space than the regular I5
Can’t wait to see the model three performance versus this in comparison. I would’ve considered it more thoroughly had it of. Had a better ranged than 220 miles. That’s just silly. I test drove one a couple weeks ago and was fairly excited about it.
No, this thing doesn't make complete sense, but damn am I glad Hyundai built it. I might wait a couple years to avoid the initial supply constraints, but I'm considering one of these to replace my Polestar 2 eventually. The Polestar is great, but this thing just seems a lot more fun.
Not a fan of EVs, especially when you can get good performance out of ICE powered cars for less money, and that's why I hope and pray that synthetic fuels become a thing. I saw and sat in the Ionia 5 and 6 at the Riyadh Motor Show last year, and I was impressed by the design both inside and out. Just wish we could've gotten designs as awesome as these in ICE cars too.
I LOVE this car but….its too much with no Federal tax credit and mark ups everywhere you go. You could get the new Model 3 performance for $51k after tax and fed tax credit or spend the same money and get a Lucid Air base OR 2 Hyundai Elantra N 😮
5N is about AU$120,000 on my Island. Unused 2023 EV6GT demos can be had for 90k. I appreciate the work Hyundai has done, but I don't see it selling well in Aus.
Great work as always Tom! For this budget minded car enthusiast who is open to EV performance, I'll be hanging on to my NB-2 Miata and Mk7 GTI until prices reach a more mainstream level. I agree that an N-Line trim would be a good move for Hyundai to offer consumers under these market conditions. Personally, I hope Volkswagen will bring the iD GTI to the states...we'll see about that. I also think the upcoming Rivian R3 looks interesting.
That moment when you have Ionic 5 N tastes but Veloster N budget 😭 Hey Tom, how do you feel this vehicle compares with the Kia EV6 GT vibe-wise? Do you have a preference for one over the other?
Honestly- newer Challenger and Chargers sitting on decades old platforms, full of plastic are more than this....sure, bash the fact it's a battery- but you can't knock the effort to try and find the 'ground' to satisfy both the ICE fanatics with new battery tech.
Warm?? It beats a top-spec Maserati Grecale or Porsche Macan SUV by 12 lengths in the 1/4 mile, and 1/2 a second faster than a Lamborghini Urus. It's hotter than any hot hatch ever has been.
I'd seriously consider this car but the range is just a little too short for me. Maybe gen 2 when battery energy densities have improved a little more.
While I get why they're offering artificial sounds for this N model, I'm personally not a fan of them, nor the fake shift points. For me, two of the biggest benefits of EVs are the quiet serene experience and smooth seamless power application. Both of those "programmed" features take that away. However, I could be convinced of piping in the actual sound of the electric motors to give you some audible feedback about how the vehicle is performing.
First thing I would do if I owned this is turn all that off, at least they give you that option. Years from now, people will find it comical synthetic vroom sounds were a thing.
@@ShapeThingsi disagree. I think every performance EV will follow suit. If porsche doesn’t engineer this immediately into the new 718’s they are idiots.
Every single review I’ve seen, and I’ve seen 8 now, has said the simulated engine noise and shifting is the best thing to ever happen to EVs. Every person has said it’s completely convincing and adds tremendously to the driving experience. I do think it would make sense to turn it off to go to the grocery store but I can’t wait to try it.
Leasing an Ioniq 5 AWD. Can only imagine what another 300hp and over 100ft lb of torque would do to the already addictive daily driving off the line acceleration! Put the “powertrain” in a regular Ioniq chassis, knock 5K off the price and let average non track schmoes like me beg our spouses for permission…or forgiveness.
12:03 with this car, you won’t need a spare. You’ll need to carry four. 😂. And just one more set at home… I mean you’ll probably stop doing an hour of donuts in front of your friends in a month.
i said the same thing: it's only missing a HUD. then i saw reviewers Down Under driving the N... and they have a HUD. AND a glass roof! i hope the US gets the HUD option. or it can be retrofitted...
I’ve read that the Hyundai genesis Kia platform is having all sorts of problems with charging and overheating. So much so that there’s a class action lawsuit people can’t even recharge their cars. Say all you want about Tesla but every time you plug it in it works no matter where you’re at. Until they come up with a permanent solution I wouldn’t touch one of these cars for free.
Why limit the choice of sound to engine noise when it is fake anyway. Give me the option to choose the sound of a WWII fighter plane engine and I will buy one immediately.
@@DrivenCarReviews as far as EVs go, sure. But there's so much that you could buy for that sort of money. EV tech needs to be more affordable, and with automakers scaling back plans for EVs it's looking more difficult.
What a dilemma for Tom V.! Garage with EV charger installed, and ticked off the list... 👍 Teetering on Ioniq 6 purchase... 😊 😍 Tested and looked right at home in Ioniq 5 N... 😃 🤩 😍 Do you change your plans, or wait for the Ioniq 6 N 🤔 And... what if they never put it into production! 😱 🤬
Feel bad for anyone buying these new, EV's are depreciating worse than a Maserati Ghibli. You can pick up 23 EV6 GT's under $40k all day or new ones at $14k off. Porsche isn't even immune; 10 year old Cayman 50% off MSRP, 4 year old Taycan? 50% off. M2 with a manual all day for the same money or a Corvette 1LT.
I hope the Model 3 Ludicrous will be better but we have no details yet. When Tesla failed to respond with an upgraded Model 3 Performance after BMW came out with an M3 that spanked the Tesla M3P in 0-60 and quarter-mile, you just knew that Tesla kind of stopped caring about making better EVs that were a smack down to combustion.
I don't hate electric cars. I'm just too stupid to understand how a 4800 pound car is sporty just because it can do 0-60 fast. 221 miles goes to about 150 miles in real world in any kind of weather, save maybe 15 miles of reserve to find a working charging station, and you aren't going anywhere fast. And that's when it's brand new. But it's just my old world thinking, in actuality, it's my fault for not understanding.
It's sporty because it can do sporty things. Goes around corners lickely-split and does it in a controlled and enjoyable way. Feels soul satisfying. On an everyday basis, 150 is more than enough (and I got 190 from sister EV9 GT in cold temps).
@@DrivenCarReviews I've made multiple LA/NY trips during the pandemic, how well is that going to work out in an electric car with 190 miles of real world range and 20 minutes charging time (if you can find the right fast charger, it's working, and it's unoccupied as you pull in).
@@Ethan7sWhat's your point? Obviously if your use case favors an ICE vehicle, you go for that. Personally, I would just fly in and rent a car at my destination.
@@DrivenCarReviewsTrue, but they are not trying to be a sports car. Contrast that 4,861 lb car’s handling to your NA Miata. Also, at some point EV’s are going to have to pay some type of tax for their share of the transportation budget since they are not paying any gas tax.
Hyundai took an extra year to develop the 5N. The EV6 gt is basically a super fast EV6. The I5N is like a different car. Biermann himself calls the EV6 GT a grand touring car and the I5N a track car.
Big differences. The Hyundai's shape is more practical (my dad owns an EV6 so this I know). Plus there's "N" tech that the Kia doesn't get like Sound +, e-Shift and much more. The knee console helps a lot when driving hard too.
@@DrivenCarReviews plus, Hyundai needs access to the super charger network (I think it’s coming) soon so that range figure looks like less of an issue.
