26th-32nd Century: Star Trek Lore 

"When in doubt: Time Travel" Probably written somewhere in the Trek writers room

I'd love to see Daniels pop up again. Maybe drag Archer with him lol.

A cold war is when the powers at play are still in conflict, but also deliberately holding back for fear of mutually assured destruction

I love how all the "future" events in Star Trek depicted in the various series are mapped out here in a linear order. Subscribed!

Anyone caught in the Nexus Ribbon can also show up in the 32nd Century.

The back up Doctor did eventually go on a journey back to the Alpha quadrant, so they could run it to him. They have been fans of bringing back Voyager characters recently.

It could be that the _"benefactor"_ of the Suliban wasn't limited to just using technology that only allowed communication with the past … but was using it to go _under the radar._ Actual time travel could be *detected* by temporal scanners, so jaunting back whenever he wanted to give orders may have been risky. It was a way to stay clandestine, as well as hide their identity *if* they were part of another organisation that would be against their actions - or just wanted to hide that they were breaking the Accord. Off topic, but imagine the temporal fallout if StarFleet had got their hands on a Suliban Cell Ship and been able to reverse engineer the technology, then implement it with Earth's industrial capacity. The power increase would allow them to completely dominate (as well as having cloaking technology and never being forced to limit usage of it). And what if StarFleet also got the genetic engineering technology of the Suliban [just the vacuum survival mod would greatly improve survivability] - since it was bio mods applied to adults the ban may not apply…

There is a reference to the temporal wars in episode 1 of Discovery Season 3. Book mentions time travel was banned after the wars ended

7:09 When Captain Archer and Malcolm Reed checking out the 31st century device, up the top screen you see the Defiant, Sisko's ship, from DS9 in the late 24th century, and the right side bottom screen you see the Excelsior, Sulu's ship, from Star Trek Undiscovered Country in the late 23rd century. Down the bottom screen you see the Enterprise NX-01 ship as they were on it. Fascinating!

They’ve essentially hopscotched about 95% of Star Trek History, from the tail end of Pike’s captaincy of the Enterprise to the end of the Temporal Cold War. That means Discovery has no knowledge of any of the knowledge we as Trek fans take for granted. They have no knowledge of Kirk’s five year mission, all of TOS and their movies, the entirety of the TNG era, including TNG, their movies, DS9, and Voyager, Lower Decks, and what will likely happen in the upcoming Prodigy. It will be interesting to see Burnham‘s reaction to what Spock accomplished after she was gone, if they see her do that: his time on the Enterprise, the Khitomer Accords, his Amabassadorship.

Not that I think it's going to happen but the backup Doctor from Living Witness was said to leave for Earth after many years of living with the Kyrians, it's not impossible he could show up at some point in the next few season of Discovery.

Fun fact: the Enrerprise episode with a future ship was originally supposed to feature a blue box. When BBC said “hell no”, they changed the ship’s look but kept the “bigger inside” feature

A series based on the Eugenics Wars… I lived through it and yet must have missed it.

I mean, the Doctor (or his backup) could appear. They just have to say he changed his appearance to make it look more “distinguished” (older, really, because Robert Picardo is older) or something like that.

This video invoked exactly the same feeling for me as those "Everything that Will Happen Before 2050" videos.

I want nothing more than a parody music video by the cast of Disco doing Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start the Fire" chronicling the events between Disco's escape into time and when they appear in the future! Makes you think about The Burn another way, eh?

Well the one thing missed I think is the synthetic children of Data. Who, by all accounts, have no life limitation. We could potentially see characters from Picard pop up in S3 of Discover, if not Guinan and the remnants of her species. There too is the possibility of Q making an appearance as well, and even possibly Wesley Crusher or the Traveller.

You forgot about Guinan's people who seemed to have both long lives and a kind of precognition. And of course.. the Q.

Hmm I was thinking the burn could have been a race from another galaxy that entered ours and a galactic war began. The other faction smacked the Federation around like the Dominion did and it took something major to stop them from wiping out the remaining forces. I always thought trek used time travel a bit to much... especially in Voyager and enterprise...the timeline has proven to be fluid and able to be changed so the writers need to learn to use it in more moderation or not at all.

It’s easy for the writers to skip over a bunch of stuff they don’t know about

I'm do glad you mentioned Final Frontier! It's most certainly not canon, but I'm absolutely fascinated by their approach to the concept. The first two scripts had a lot of promise IMO.

The map at the center of the Starfleet "Bubble" in Discovery 3x03 had an indicator for "Kazon" something...

I feel you should make a previous Star Trek episode time line,.. sooo that we can be all caught up, to make way for Discover season 3 which debuts in the US on Thursday. I feel like all the easter eggs from previous Star Trek show are going to be lost on me. A refresher course episode guide

Great recap of discovery leaps in story logic💞 thank you !

I was listening to a Star Trek podcast and I think they brought up how it was mentioned that Ezri was going to be the last Dax. Also looking up stuff, Dax was born 2 years ago.

Can you do a video on every time the timeline has changed? City ob the Edge of Forever, Yesterday's Enterprise, & Trials and Tribble-ations come to mind.

Considering the showrunners’ stated reason for launching Discovery into the 32nd century was to “be free of canon,” (their words), I’m not confident that they are the least bit familiar with any of these storylines, despite Daniels originating from a time only a few decades earlier. If they surprise me, then spacecraft from this period can appear larger on the inside than outside. If they surprise me, time travel in this time is child’s play (apparently, it’s child’s play pre-TOS, but I digress). Maybe they will surprise me and tie into the Temporal Cold War, possibly even explaining the radical discrepancies between TOS-verse and Discovery-verse (and I don’t just mean visually). I would LOVE to be pleasantly surprised to discover that they have the slightest clue what we’re talking about.

Blimey... 52 seconds after it goes live.... I've never been this early for any video ever lol 🤣🤣🤣

Let's not forget the 29th century borg are a force to be reckoned with. Having internal transporter nodes, multi-dimensional adaptability, reactive body armor composed of the same poly-deutonic alloy as used in the mobile emitter, and a multi-spatial personal force field. As we learned from the scans of One on Voyager.

Funny you posted this because I was looking at this very subject yesterday, though not for the same reason. I don’t know if there’s a video idea here or not (probably not, I’m not that clever) but when you realize that we in 2020 are pretty close to being right in between the publishing of Shakespeare’s The Tempest and the events of TNG you start to wonder why language hasn’t changed very much. There’s perfectly reasonable meta reasons for it but nothing explicit in canon near as I can tell.

Great video 👍🏾

If that mention about Trill symbiotes living for thousands of years means we could possibly meet a new Dax I'm all for it. A Trill, whether it be this time's Dax or not, would be nice to see in Discovery and being that they tend to live long lives, it'd definitely be a way to allow the crew to learn more about the Federation's history as of that point in time. I honestly would like to learn more about the mysterious figure from Enterprise or at least find out his motives as I don't recall Archer ever encountering them and/or confronting them to find out. Maybe they are a reason this future is the way it is.

The EMH return to the Alpha Quadrant in a ship. So it would be interesting to see the EMH show up in Discovery.

Just finished building my mirror universe Temporal Destroyer (Klien Temporal Destroyer T6) and damn, this is just too insane. You can casually ignore shields and deal massive physical damage, combined with Science Bridge officers. By complete build with Diffusive Tetryon, mixed with Tzenkethi Preeminent set, I rarely use weapons and just deal physical damage and DOT. I don't understand why do people like Intel ships. Edit: It also destroyed a Voth Citadel Dreadnought without a single weapon shot. Just Channeled deconstruction, Entropic Cascade, Entropic Redistributed, Rapid Decay and Heisenberg amplifier to confuse enemies and jam enemy sensors.

One must assume that the Guardian of Forever exists in the 32nd century, and although it's discovery in canon Trek was in Kirk's time, not Pike's, and thus not in Discovery's records, I suppose Discovery could always find it independently, and use it to some good purpose. (There's a terrific fan fiction episode named In Harm's Way, Part of the Phase 2 series, that reveals a larger version big enough to fly a Constitution Class starship through.)

I’m here to learn moar about this Franchise since I’m a Star Wars fan

Thanx looking all this up was going to be a pain.

Voyager brought temporal shielding home from the Delta Quadrant so Starfleet had that for a long time and plenty of time to work on it

Somewhere The Doctor is getting flashbacks to Gallifrey's final days.

Most people may not know this but Dax is the captain of the Enterprise J. So that's the latest point in Dax's timeline since he mentioned it that's Dax could very well still be alive.

I wonder if the doctors copy from living witness will resurface. Dout it but would be a cool through in

I’m really, really hoping they never go back to their time. This new future plot is just what they needed. It’s so far in the future they can’t really screw with canon anymore. The little hiccups can be ignored now. It’s not perfect but it’s sci-fi and i’m gonna watch it anyhow.

That device that Daniels showed Archer also contained images and readouts of a modern Klingon Bird of Prey and a Romulan Warbird.

Will you be doing any Ship or Species indexes from Lower Decks?

I just noticed, some of the symbols/text in Daniels time stream bubble thing, appear to be Klingon.

LOVE THE THUMBNAIL

Spot on let us hope Discovery reveals more information about the burn the “ present time consequence “

In Star trek online, a glimpse at the battle of Procyon 5 and the various time zones in conflict there reveal the captain of the J was a Dax.

I still have my bet running with the trek central team that either we see Daniels or we get a continuation on the Temporal cold war (but I may just be projecting lol).

The fact that we see a ship from the 32nd century in Enterprise that is of Vulcan design makes a great deal of sense. Aside from small scout crafts and shuttles, the Vulcans had largely stopped building large starships during the Federation years. Instead what we see is described as a retrofitted dorsal carrier with the commission date of 3125. It is obviously an enormous defense oriented craft which makes sense if Vulcan is now on its own and protecting its own planet and colonies because the Federation collapsed the century before.

Impressive! What system do you use to keep track of notes? I’m imagining an automated spread sheet with a bit of AI support. Seriously!

The aliens that kidnapped humans and raised trained human time agents... Assignment Earth and Gary Seven (Son of Seven of Nine! :-D)

The only thing that I can think of that you didn't include was the brief glimpse into the future that we got in the Star Trek: Lower Decks episode: Temporal Edict

That episode where the doctors wakes up hundreds of years later in that like Voyager war crimes museum place was a good episode...

I never noticed until now that the Chronowerx logo is the same as the Star Fleet insignia from the future.

The burn was a crying child in a show where everyone cries every episode.

The Guardian device might be used by Spock once the original Star Trek crew discover it. it was assumed to have been built by the Iconians millions of years ago, however it could have been built in the far future by them and be moving backwards through time. This could mean interactions with the Iconians.

This makes we wanna see the 2nd season star trek discovery - it sounds like a warzone.

Using star trek lore, its worth noting that Romulans dont use Dilithium, they use singularity cores to propel their ships which makes me wonder, what are the Romulans doing, how did they fare...

For two weeks or so now, the only ad I get on your videos is for the new House Shattered sory in STO. Im pretty sure its just a coincidence but still funny It would be so cool to see another Dax. And wasnt there a Time Traveller from the 26th(?) or whatever century when Spock and Kirk unintentionally also travelled back in time? He had transformed the entire flat (or was it a bureau?, I really cant remember much from that episode) into a secret base of observation or whatever. Was he really from the 26th century or does my memory fool me? And whats the episode called anyway? Would love to rewatch it

How cool would it be if the copy of the Doctor who travelled back home alone from the Delta quadrant shows up in the show.

The unseen elements of the Temporal Cold War are clearly aspects of the Last Great Time War. Now there is a crossover that I'd like to see. Maybe Future Guy is actually The Master. This could be a good storyline to do in comic book form.

It would be cool to see archer and even thr doctor

"We are amidst strange beings, in a strange land. The flow of time itself is convoluted, with heroes centuries old phasing in and out. The very fabric wavers, and relations shift and obscure. There's no telling how much longer your world and mine will remain in contact. But, use this, to summon one another as spirits, cross the gaps between the worlds, and engage in jolly cooperation!" Solaire was a Time Agent.

You suppose the Enterprise J is intact somewhere? It would be kind of cool to have the central protagonist eventually become the J's captain at the end of Discovery.

Im early? Or did I travel back in time to be early? No one will know

Wasn't there a Borg from the 28th century or something in Voyager?

Shouldn’t the timeline be presented as a spaghetti line similar to hurricane computer models? Those traveling back go to specific strand for them, and thus altering their timeline. It would also agree with the multiverse theory?

Im just wondering what Enterprise "if any" will we get in Discovery?

I hope in discovery they bring enterprise voyager daniel and even show the omega molecule and show how the burn happend

Oh we were so young, we didn't know what the burn was... I wish we could go back... fitting, really!

Hey... Who stopped the killer AI? Those need someone to externally issue some form of Override Command. Even when you lock everything down, there is still only a Lock on it... So... Who stopped it if the Crew that previously stopped it, was not in the current timeline at the time of stopping it?

Basically the opening montage of Buck Rogers in the 25th Century

Since we're talking time speculation.... Could Archer actually be Dr. Sam Beckett's final Quantum Leap?

so remember the TNG episode i think 2 parter where they combine dna fragments from various races to open a message from a race that seeded life in our galaxy....did they say we would find them in the future or they would come back or something? if so maybe they could make an appearance in the new discovery future timeline. oh edit, the Q can be anywhere anytime so they of course could also show up in this new time period

Booker mentions that due to the Temporal Wars, Time Travel was outlawed and any tech destroyed by 3188. This makes an interesting set up indeed. I do hope DIS stays in the future to free it up from the rest of the timeline

My opinion is they travelled in time but also crossed over to the parallel universe thats why kovich is interested about Philippa more then the rest

In Captain Marvel, Carol Danvers thinks her name is Vers because that’s all that survived or her name tag. In Star Trek the Motion Picture V’Ger similarly gets its name from Voyager. What if the “Burn” really has something to do with Michele Burnham...

"fashion senses were lost" aka the motto of most of star trek

My Head Canon for a next set of series takes place at the start of the 26th Century. 2501/01-01 Sat 00:00;00.0 GMT

5.51 , I think that a 50 /50 chance of the BackUp Modale of The Doctor could meet Burham ,& the Discover's Crew ,because in the last 3 -5 minutes of said Episode the Furture Curator reveal the doctor served as the surgical chancellor for any years ,but eventually he took a ship and departed for Earth , so if he stay on the planet for 15 years + 3074 = 3089 ,which is 99 Years before the Year 3188 which Burhah arrived the Future.

Would be nice, but considering Bok just stated that Time Travel has been outlawed since the Burn, I feel that this will not occur

You were right about trill!!!!!!

They say in episode 1 season 3 of discovery that time travel was outlawed after the temporal war

Left out the episode "A Matter of Time" from TNG.

I would assume that Admiral Archer would have something to do with ending the Temporal Cold War. Well, I assume it was actually Dr. Sam Beckett doing it, he was just trying to set things right with the alternate timeline where the Admiral's beagle got misplaced in that transporter incident.

Well predicted, episode 3 is released and the presence of a symbiote is confirmed !

How about the return of the Kelvans from TOS?

Would love a Living Witness shoutout

You know someone fucked up the timeline badly when darth vader shows up at the federation hq demanding their unconditional surrender .

your're talking about the emh hologram well he was given a ship so that he could actually return to alpha quadrant

Thank you for sharing. I was thinking they cheat at the end and everything gets wiped as they intercept control before its birth and the time line continues as normal.

Let's be honest. Any plot contrivance that can bring back a former fan favorite will be used on this show. The Traveler and Wesley Crusher for example.

I still can’t fathom how the federation discovered time travel and couldn’t go back to stop the burn

The Discovery withstood direct multiple torpedo hits from 800 years into the future. That alone is unbelievable. Voyager set the scaling of what future weapons tech just 30 years in the future can do with the transphasic torpedoes. Imagine 800 years. Weapons should have been shown to be more magical and unbelievable.

They missed the photonic rebellion. Imagine seeing voyagers doctor Captaining one of the holographics ships from discovery season 3

The Sphere builders were not time travelers, they could only view time they lived in some different type of subspace which is what they tried to create in the expanse.

J class enterprise should've explored more

We all timetravel to the future! There is no problem there.

How'd you get into Star Trek, anyway?