270 vs 30-06 - How Many Paper Plates??? 

The 150 gr is the "heavy" bullet load in a 270, used more often for game larger than deer, like elk. The 150 gr in the 30-06 is the light bullet load intended for deer. The performance in your plates demonstrate that. A better comparson would be a 130 gr 270 vs a 150 gr 06, or a 150 gr 270 vs a 180 gr 06. I like your videos and like to try the different bullets and loads myself. Keep up the good work.

Awesome video..! The .270 is an excellent caliber, but given the choice I will always go 30.06. Prior to buying my 30.06 I had considered both the .270 & the .280 until I had lengthy discussion with my uncle. What he pointed out and it always stuck with me was 2 things. 1) Any place (even the out of the way stores) that sells ammo will always have some sort of 30.06 on the shelf. 2) Reloading aside.. there are way more options available in 30.06 in factory loads from the 50 grain accelerator to the 200 grain big game load with many in between. Thanks for the video...

270 will always be my No. 1 go to rifle.......... 130grn. Hornady Is 'best'

For the .270 the 130 grain is king.

I hunt in south Georgia where most use the 30-06 since we they never typically shoot past 300 yards, and need the bullet to dump power and roll in the deer, but me and a friend of mine share land together (Was always my dream) and we have a field that in the sand hills that is from 1000 to 1,500 yards long. I took another buddy from Florida out there one day who had a 30-06, because he hunted in the thick palmettos, but when a deer showed up 700 yards away in that field that bullet went into the deer shoulder and stuck in the out side layer of the first lung. We tracked that deer for 45 minutes, and found him perfectly alive but caught up in some barb wire. Two days later, im back out there, and a thick 8-point walks out at 800 yards! I was shaking not only because how thick his horns were and how big they were, but it was so far away. I entered all my number into my hornandy ballistics calculator app, and took the shot. When through first shoulder, both lungs, and stuck in the other shoulder. He dropped and did this wierd shuffle towards the woods but never made it. 270 is king!

advice: don't stand in front of either one ...... jus'sayin'..... yup

What a great way to unwind after a day of work. Watch you shoot some stuff

The smaller diameter penetrates further, its easier to push an ice pick into something than it is a #2 Philips screwdriver. My best guess on the loss of lead is the friction heating the bullet up so much it melts the lead and it is liquid. When it stops moving it cools and returns to a solid, but in real small chunks, hence the dust that you see. Keep havin fun...

A BIG shout out for the venerable 270 !!!!!

I have the 270 and 30-06 both made by Savage with the black aesthetic stock. Love them both, both are very accurate. Thanks for another great video!! Now you gave me a idea to try. My 270 is set up for long distant shooting. I'll have to go get me some paper plates now and set it out at 300 yards and see how well it penetrates.

I'm a 270 man.and I killed every thing but cancer with the ol' roast reaper👍🤙🤘

Thank you for doing the 270 vs 30-06 steel plate test and paper plate test. I really like that you're one of the only youtubers that actually does videos that compare the two.

🦌🦌270 win is a beast and my favorite round 🦌🦌

I'm really partial to the 30 06, because I already have a 303 in my possession, which is my uncle's gun. So I don't really wanna drop caliber sizes all that eagerly. I'm not knocking a 270, I think it's a very good gun, but I like something that's got more punch up close, and does more damage. The only reason I'd consider going with a 270 would be if it's substantially cheaper all round. Ammunition especially. The availability of the ammunition is important too. However, it's really hard to ignore how the 270 doesn't dump its power at longer ranges, and through that many more paper plates because of its narrower caliber, it would naturally penetrate better than the larger one. Penetration is important.

Classic paper plate test.😁 I still enjoy watching them! I didn't think you would find that big of a piece from the 30 06. Thank You Sir!!!

Whoot i love the paper plate test and happy birthday USMC ...NEVER FORGET.....SALUTE TOO ALL VETERANS

I knew the 270 would win THIS contest. But I ran the numbers on these exact rounds about 6 months ago 😁 I couldn't pick between them so I let the science decide. The 150gr Win SuperX PowerPoint is a very common projectile across a few calibers (30-30, 308, 7mm, 300WM,..etc) and you can find it anywhere for cheap. I think the 270win is just a little more versatile than the 30-06: Shoots flatter, less recoil, better Ballistic Coefficiency (better accuracy at longer ranges). But that's all paper(plates). For any practical shooting within 200 yds, you won't see too big of a difference. Sightly larger wound cavity with the 30-06, and a bit easier penetration on the 270win due to it having a finer point with the same mass. Either way, meat in the freezer!

You're comparing apples to oranges. The equivalent bullet in 30 caliber to the 150 grains bullet in the 270 would have to weigh 185 grains........That is aside from the fact that you are choosing in the 30 caliber a very fast expanding bullet intended for soft game. Your choice in the 270 has a sectional density of 0.279 while the 150 grains bullet in 30 caliber has a sectional density of .226. Sectional density is how you measure the potential for penetration. NOT equal weights in different calibers. but equivalent bullets in different calibers. This is called the form factor. It is crucial in order to properly illustrate your example. In order to go further, you'd have to get a 185 bullet in 30 caliber that goes as fast as the 150 grains bullet in the 270 or you are cheating one or the other because speed isn't the determining factor for penetration. I understand that these are two very popular calibers but the popular weight in 270 is 130 grains. The 150 grains is often used as an elk load. In the 30-06, the elk load is usually a bullet that weighs 180 or 200 grains. Lastly, even the 130 grain bullet in the 270 has a sectional density of .242 which is still superior to that of the 30-06 in 150 grains bullet. The comparison should be between two identical bullets at the same speed. Using a 130 grains bullet in the 270, the equivalent (closest and most popular in this instance) 30 caliber bullet in sectional density is the 165 grains. This would make it an apples to apples comparison. I enjoy your channel and sincerely appreciate all your effort. You also make it fun. I do think however that some ballistics understanding over the long run will help you a little to make your show even more successful. Very sincerely. Paul

The casing is what you eject out of the rifle when you pull the trigger. It is the jacket that is the copper around the bullet itself

I figured it would be closer than that as the 30.06 caused some more damage though....Nice testing as always interesting findings.....Good stuff....

The 270 performs amazing with 140 grain bullets. I hand load with Berger 140vld and classic hunter. I’ve used them all. Strange enough the standard 140gr Nosler ballistic tips have proven extremely accurate and consistent. They don’t have the high class appeal of a match king or Berger but I’ll perform better with those. SSTs are also accurate. Brian litz and others have concluded that the jack O’Conner round of 130 is no longer the best. The 140s and even 150 perform amazing in the 270win. My favorite cartridge by far.

That is always a great comparison with actual data.

That was pretty cool!....I'm a big fan of the 270 caliber.. Thanks for sharing..

nice video as always. can you compare the 270win 140gr with 7mm rem mag 139gr hunting bullets vs paper plates please.

Great demonstration. Kinda the point with hunting ammo! Expand and Dump the energy immediately on impact. People get caught up in penetration like it’s the only thing that matters. You get too much penetration capabilities without expansion and you end up with game running off injured and you’re chasing after it!

Another good video!! I love this 270 ...👊🏿👊🏿👍🏿👍🏿

Really cool ,u been doing this for a while ,doing a great job thanks

30.06 all the way. The wound channel is going to be much larger.

I applaud the effort. And realize this is a moment in time test. A possible starting point. A reference... .... I have done this with phone books. But different stacks for eavh different round. Pretty amazing what you can figure out too. Also. Did some Bolivar county MS wet gumbo tests. Messy. But effective. Thanks for the vid. Much appreciated.

I'll take both of them can't go wrong that way 😂😂

Now I don't know about the rest of you but I never thought about Hunting for Concrete Blocks or Paper Plates or a Cast Iron Skillets or even seeing one walk by while in a stand but what I do know is, I'll take my .270 WSM ANY & EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK over any other Caliber out there! The Deer Rifle I started out with was my Dad's old Winchester Model 94 30-30 with a fixed 4x Weaver scope, felt like a modern day Chuck Connors 😁 after I took my first buck I was hooked for life. Even though Dad's old Winchester was a great gun I wanted my own so I started reading Field and Stream, Outdoor Life and Sports Afield magazines, it was those articles and stories by Jack O'Connor on the .270 Winchester that I knew that was the caliber for me. At that time I didn't want a bolt action and never liked a semi-auto rifle so I got a Remington 760 Pump in .270 which I'd probably still be using today had it not been for those boys at Winchester when they come out with the AWESOME Possum .270 WSM. I'm sure a lot of people will say that a .270 WSM is a still .270 but those people would be wrong while all the WSM calibers just matched their counterparts the WSM took the old .270 to a whole new level and into a league of it's own without having to rely on a Belted Magnum case with a 26" heavy Long Action rifle. Simply put the comparing old .270 to the WSM is like a Lady Finger Firecracker to a M80 Firecracker power while keeping it the same size as the Lady Finger.

Enjoyed your plate penetration test between the 270 Win and the 30-06. Given that both bullets have the same weight and similar velocities the fact the 270 has a narrower cross-sectional area makes it easier to penetrate than the 30-06. Results may have been different if the nominal 130 gr 270 Win bullet had been used. That said, I now have a 270 and sold my 30-06 long ago. Still tempted to get another 30-06.

The stats on the back of ammo boxes are rated way higher than what they really are

I perfer the 270 alot bettet

Excellent demonstration of sectional density. 👍

22 magnum vs 22lr!! That would be fun!.

The 150 grain .277 bullet has a higher sectional density than the .308 bullet of the same weight. This was a nice display of how sectional density gives better penetrating power at a given weight.

Sounds like the 30-06 kept more of the bullet intact,therefore slowing it more than than the slightly smaller. 270, making the diameter,the only variable. Good test.

Thanks! I still prefer the 30-06 because it produces a bigger wound channel and has more choices of bullet weights.

Both are great rounds.

Good comparison test, you just picked up another subscriber! I like the 270 much better also!

Ether or ,they are both very good for deer hunting

180 grain .30-06 would’ve destroyed the 270 in penetration and damage.

The penetration is not the story. Bullets are made for hunting, target shooting, etc. If you want penetration? Then use a full metal jacket. For hunting, you want a led core or Barnes ttsx. The best part of this experiment was the fact that the 30-06 expanded quicker and dumped its energy into the animal. A bullet that expands and retains most of its weight is what you want in a hunting bullet. Penetration is not even important.

This was a worthwhile comparison...same basic case and dimensions, correlated power levels, just different bullet sizes. Now you need to do a direct analog of this test, but at the next power level up: 7mm Remington magnum (.284 bullet) and the 300 win mag...again, same basic case and dimensions, just altered bullet sizes in very similar ratio to those in this test.

Cool test!! Thanks!!

For Terry H., the.30-06 won not blowing through deeper as the.270 did but dumped more of the kinetic energy in the shorter distance. Meaning more wound channel damage inside the (your) prey animal instead of delivering more the kinetic outside the animal as it passes through the animal. One of my questions is did the .270 bullet have less lead inside the tip giving more penetration and less expansion? And one bit of info is that the U.S. Army never used the.270 as a sniper round. Check out the life history of both cartridges and you find an overwhelming info for both but more for the.30-06 . Now I'm die hard fan of the.30-06, and you may be the same for the.270 and no matter how much trash talk will change this and I hope non of this post drops to that level. But no .270 round has ever stepped out past the 4,000 fps ceiling ( 55 gr. Accelerator ). From 55 - 220 gr. Ammo the.30-06 has done more for longer than the.270 ammo.

Great comparison, thank you!

I think that second to the last paper plate was a little thin and just totally threw off the whole test... LOL.. good video brother keep them coming

Casing is the brass that holds the components......bullet, primer, and powder.

Would like to see a bonded core vs cup lead bullet comparison. Like grand slam vs the Speer soft point, same weight, caliber rifle and velocity, in .270 would be great.

You may have already, but I'm all about comparing different bullets and how they perform differently....soft points, FMJ's and sorts in the 270.....I always hunted with Remington core lokts....round nose....they would always expand well and knock down my deer. But I'm always curious on other things out there. ..especially in the 270 world.

Superior BC for the .270 assures a win. The 06 seemed to keep its core intact, however. Both are good choices on game.

two of the best cartridges for hunting deer moose and elk. cant go wrong with either one.

The 270 Win's the penetration test again Who_ Tee!!!!!

.270 has higher sectional density.

One of my first rifles I bought is a Ruger Stainless Steel 270 Winchester! It is a Great Rifle!

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A comparison test between the .270 Win and the German 7x64mm would certainly be very interesting. The two calibers are extremely similar. The 7x64mm mostly uses slightly heavier bullets tahn the .270. I love the 7x64, which was disigned by Wilhelm Brenneke more than 100 year ago in 1917.

That was about what I expected on this one but interesting and fun as always!

Just got a .270 so I had to go back and watch this. Been hunting with a 30.06, but for South Texas whitetail, it was kind of overkill.

Great video brother thanks for sharing GOD BLESS.

Great Video!

Just shot my first buck a couple hours ago. He ran about 40 yards and crashed. 130 gr 270 American Whitetail. Matter of fact, same rifle you used in the test, I believe!

30-06 dont need to prove his supremacy. 😂

Love your videos. A regular guy shooting lots of guns at stuff to see what happens! Thanks.

Howitzer vs paper plate test next!!!

Nice job. I love the 270. A highly under-rated caliber. Thumbs up!

I think you should redo this video once at 100 yards and once at 500 yards see if it changes The outcome

I love your videos keep up the great job

Another great video! Thanks!

I love my SAVAGE .270. Jack O'Connor loved .270 as well. Cool video/comparison thanks for sharing. By the way that is a gorgeous Weatherby .270.- Marco

i like the .270 a little bit more. the 30-06 and .270 have the same overall length but the 270 is a smaller bullet, this means the .270 has a teeny-tiny bit more powder and at distance is going faster, has less surface area so less drag. thats my opinion

Thank God you aren't shooting holes in my Ranger again..

270 drove deeper, but shows low cross sectional density. 30 06 retains more weight. And a much more sever wound channel. I call the .30 06 winner.

I love them both! You used the wrong bullet for the 06. You shoulda used a 180 grain bullet to make the SD closer.

Interesting video... I like both cartridges but this is a good way of showing that sectional density does play a huge role in penetration seeing as the 150 grain in the 270 has a much higher sectional density than a 150 grain in the ought 6... That being said you would come closer to similiar sectional densities in both bullets with the 150 grain in the 270 vs the 180 grain in the 30-06. If you get a chance to compare them again in simialir sectional densities that would be an interesting comparison for sure.

After watching several of Your comparisons I am even more convinced. All this talk about calibers is so much as eyewash.Where you hit is what matters,not with what you hit. Careful aiming and avoiding risky long-range shots ist doing the trick,together with proper knowledge of lethal points in game.Mind, Karamojo Bell killed 800 elephants with 7x57 cal.

I would like to see that same test at 300yds. The .270 maintains higher velocities at further distances giving it more energy from what I have read.

Daam, those paper plates could have done me some BBQs!

That is the jacket not casing bullets consist of a core usually lead and a jacket which is copper fyi

WHO_TEE_WHO pulls thru with another paper plate test for our enjoyment. . . .

Best video ever !!! way more scientific than it looks !!!

It’s simple, 3006 for under 500 yd. dumps it’s power sooner and is better in brushy conditions. 270 win for over 500. 7.62mm is less efficient at long range than the 6.8mm “270 win” has better penetration Which is what you want at long range. Especially with elk. Both are fantastic rounds just better at certain things. I own both and love both. It’s America, just own both.

Will be good to note them all down when they are done its quite interesting

I wonder IF the plates were clamped together with even psi/clamp IF that would be a more accurate assessment with maybe one set plates each round?

Would you consider a rematch? I’m just suggesting that you try different bullet weights to see how they perform everyone says sectional density is what matters if you can try prove that theory then that would be cool

I’m turning 18 in a couple of months and I want to buy my first hunting rifle I’m debating over 270 win or 30-06 I’m leaning over to 30-06 but I think the 270 would be a perfect fit or me I want a flat shooting rifle that can take down a big deer and big black bear at a good range .

Great video... I was thinking more damage from the 06 and more plates with the 270.

How about some comparison videos featuring the 300 Win Mag & the 7mm Rem Mag...?

You go through a lot of paper plates. Great video, great guns.

I think the .270 should have a better sectional density than the 30-06 so it should go farther. Same weight with a narrower bullet means it longer

I haven't watched yet. My guess is .270 breaks up more and goes through slightly less plates.

30-06 more expansion = more knockdown power and i have never had an issue with penetration.

. 270 incredible, it's a powerhouse, the son of . 30-06 is a beast

nice information don't scoff at .270 probably cheaper cheaper ammo easier to handle a nice combo maybe .38 revolver for close range/backup and .270

Nice video Who-Tee & thanks! Next paper plate test, can you PLEASE do one on the 30-30 WIN.?...specifically using a few different bullet loads/grains...PLEASE??? Then, do a paper plate test with your new 50 BMG!...Thanks!!!

.270 diameter penetration is better. .308 diameter slows down more rapidly. Interesting video

Please try barnes bullet federal premium vs 3006 nosler partition federal premiums. Likely find the 270 will kick ass however for hunting big game such as elk the 3006 is supreme.

Awesome video. Thanks.