33s do make the trail more exciting. 37s make things a lot easier. Done plenty of black diamond and double black diamond trails with 33s and lockers. But I think my 37s look far better than 33s.
@TrailNewbie exactly! Works perfectly for my needs, and gets me everywhere I want to go! And it's a pretty modified subaru forester wilderness, winch bumper, swing out tire carrier, full underbody protection along with rock sliders, just waiting on a new lift before I start hitting the difficult trails again as my current lift is suffering from spring fatigue and I have less ground clearance than stock haha
Well I mean.. no shit.. 37 is larger then 35.. literally every step up size is a larger than size.. I'm not sure if you thought this was profound... " a 33 is a larger 31" well fucking duh bro. What the fawks creek are you on about. And just cuz, I have 31s 9n my cj and 32s (285 70,17. Odd numbers a43 directly numbered even numbers are ratioed. A 285 70 is a 32" tire)
My 31s on my Land Rover has taken me to places, and has kept up. It's all about how you equip, and ready your vehicle. Also, spotting and wheel placement is 100% the trick to a successful obstacle passing.
Overlanding= going camping, driving slowly over very mild terrains with an ugly rack and tent on top of your vehicle. Lol that can be done with 31 inch tires 😂😂
"New to overlanding?" Here's three top reasons why 35s MIGHT be overkill for YOU! 1. You MIGHT need a lift. 2. You'll SPEND more $$$$ on gas!! 3. Your transmission WILL work harder!! Before hoping into BIG TIRES, how about suggesting shocks first like factory vs aftermarket off road shocks. The performance and experience you'll get between the two. Next, maybe upgrading your factory tires to a more aggressive A/T or hybrid tire if needed. So if you're new to overlanding, get to know your vehicle first and its capabilities before running 35s. Speaking for the newbies only.
i got 31s and an old REI tent, and that's enough to keep up with most "overlanders" and a few of the jeeps on 40s. its about the driver more than the car, you can have fun off road in an old civic.
I ran 33s on my 1st gen taco and went places that were insane. Unless you are crawling, more than 35s are a waste of cash. I didn't worry about breaking my rig either. Sure if you want it to look impressive that's a whole different story but for me it was double duty daily driver.
35s arent a waste of cash or for looks on other rigs they can be a solid upgrade. I can see why in a tacoma moving up to 35s requires alot of work with its front suspension geometry and gearing. In his jeep with the 8 speed and 2 inch spacer lift, 35s can be ran no problem. Even on stock wheels.
37s have always been a good size for us in our area, anyway. We overland and trail ride / light to medium rock crawling. We encountered numerous times people getting hung up or high centered with 35s. Rather, they had a full-size truck or a 2-door jeep. 37s really see to be that magic size. Also, depending on your wheel, metal type, and size, 37s can still get you the same mileage as a 35s. 20in aluminum rim equals less rubber for 37in vs. a 16in steel wheel on 35in tires equal more rubber....
35s are for broverlanding. True overlanding is about gaining SOME ground clearance but fuel mileage, tire weight and decent on and off road manners take precedence. Overlanding is about getting to the destination not looking cool on IG with 35s lol
Man all of you folks on these comments sections are stingy. Run whatever the hell you want to run. I had a ranger on 29’s that I went offroad with, I’ve been offroading in a bronco with 33’s and now I’ve got a Silverado with 35’s. Just go and have FUN.
I have overlanded 1000's of miles in a 2.5 yj with 33's and I also have an XJ Cherokee with a 6.5" lift, 35's, long arm kit..etc. I daily that thing and it's mostly a pavement princess. I do whatever I want and don't give a damn. Anyone judging anything has self confidence issues and is just looking to pad their own ego.
My wallet tells me to get better and do better.Not getting stuck is priceless.I did have to change to 488's but while it was apart I put in a front locker . 37's
I agree. My truck is setup to run oil wells. I need to get in and out no matter what the conditions are. 34” no lift or modifications other than having to remove bumper. People say my beat up truck looks mean or angry. Everyone who drives it loves it. It was purchased and put together for a specific purpose and has been excellent. It wasn’t for looks but everyone knows that’s my truck. Unique.
Idk where you camp but I like my 40’s on my Powerwagon. I can go deep into the nothingness with no issues. But for most people I do agree 35’s are good enough in 90% on situations.
When my Gladiator Rubicon was brand new, I completely skipped 35’s and went directly from 33’s to 37’s. A year later, decided to make the upgrade to 40’s and oh man, it’s been incredible 😁
Me and my friends have been making memories of a lifetime on secluded, difficult-to-reach turquoise beaches of the mediterranean for years now, all thanks to my Jeep running 31's. You absolutely don't need monster tires to experience amazing stuff.
I learned all this the hard way 🤦♂️ Im running a 2023 Jeep wrangler with 37s and what a mistake it was and extra $4000 spent for a bumpy ride and terrible fuel economy for 2” of more side wall 😅 and whole lot of other problems I won’t even get into
Most people do it wrong like this... cheapest lift to fit 37's nad then hate it. You start by saving for the best lift and shocks and then regear and then once you have saved enough money to change your axels when they break you get the 37+. My jeep corners and rides like a S class on 37's
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Bogus dude. Don't need 35's unless you're rock crawling. I had 33's that messed with my gearing on low range, especially on steep descents. Now I have 31's, that is the sweet number for me. Best for off-roading and touring.
Just pulled 37s off my super duty.. running 35s now.. takes a little bit to get used to the look, but the handling/towing/mileage and even braking are night and day better.. its funny, when I was a kid 35s were like monster truck tires.. now multiple different packages come with them from the factory.
Good conclussion, bad reassons. MPG is actually a good reason not to go over 35. Gears are not a good reason, most guys will need to re-gear anyways. On road handling is actually gonna have a huge impact over 35". You will have more flex kn your tires, the steering will become less and less precise, more and more slow to react, breaking power will become insufficient, noise on pavement will become unbearable and your jeep will become more prone to develop deathwabble. Lift kits will have to be ridiculously high to accomodate the huge tires with full flex and turning ability. That will also decrease ride quality at highway speeds. Finally, consider 37s as your top end tire size if you own a JL, JT, Bronco or F150 raptor. Maybe even a 3/4 ton pickup like a powerwagon. If not, 35 is the limit for overlanding and 33s in the case of really old rigs like an xj cherokee
Had 35's om my TJ when I bought it and swapped to 33's quick as needed a gear swap to get any power. The fascination with needing 35's is beyond me ...
Only if you take the easy route in many cases. I have a 22 recon that is still stock. You are right about the BF Goodrich tires being smaller than advertised though. I did the Rubicon on 37's with a4 inch lift with my Gladiator. It was very useful, to say the least.
Tire selection is more important than size. A name brand reputable 31 inch tire that cost 200 is fonna outperform a 35 inch lionclaw or whatever Chinese tires are named.
Good ol Ling longs haha Had a buddy delaminate a momo tire in less than 5k lol Brand name tires will always be a good start. To many people buying china 33s and 35s just to say they have them and guys in stock trucks on 31s drive right by them lol
Toyo now sells an advertised 34" X 10.50 X R17LT D Load Range A/T III that measures an actual 33.5" dia. This one is a winner! and I've put five of them on five Method 705 17 X 8.5 +25mm on my every-lander F150. Nice diameter, not too wide, not too heavy. Win/win/win.
Here's a tip, buy wider wheels with less backspacing. People buying 17" wheels that are only 9" wide in a Jeep are all running wheel spacers. Just get some 10" or 12" wide wheels and ditch the spacers, you can run whatever tire size you want.
If i was worried about gas mileage i would buy a Prius. Meanwhile my truck on 37's and 4.56 gears will pull that cute little jeep out when it gets stuck. :)
Honestly 31-33 is great for most overlanding. I run 315/75R16 (~34.5) and have done very difficult trails with that size. I would call it overkill for forest roads and such.
Tires are determined by the terrain but I agree with you about gear changes, not as important anymore with most modern vehicles pushing over 350+hp stock. My OBS ford got 5.13's with 35's because the 220hp 5.0l engine couldnt handle 35's with stock 3.55 gears. Lol
I tend to agree. I think it’s a relative thing. When going out with another vehicle or group, the closer in ground clearance…it’s probably better unless those with the taller tires and winches want to be constantly pulling people with, hopefully, skid plates and shorter tires.
For overlanding, 31s are more than sufficient, even for most rock crawling 31-33s will suffice, however 37-40s are not for the average trip they are for the extreme explorers who want to go on the most difficult trails or the middle of nowhere with minimal chance of getting stuck
Most overlanders just go from government rec site to government rec site anyways and probably hit nothing worse then a logging road. So definitely 35s are plenty! Overall one of the more logical Jeep vids out there 👍
Make 35x10.50's available. My 87 3/4 ton chevy can't even flatten out a 35x12.50 properly for trail driving. Your jeeps will have a contact patch that is completely round, at best at your ideal pressure. You want a square contact patch with any tyre for optimum performance.
If y’all think 35s aren’t enough, I go through woods, trails, and beaches with the stock Bridgestone tires. At least admit you want them and not need them.
Overlanding is cool but I dont run 38s to drive places. I run 38s for the chicks! Big tires and friendly dogs gets them Everytime 😊 (If they don't like big tires? their just not worth it😁) ps. I live in Utah, so yeah, I wheel as well.
Also as important or more importantly is the size of the sidewall, known as aspect ratio. The higher the number the taller the sidewall. The aspect ratio pertains to the ratio of hight, to the width of the tread. Roughly every 100 mm will be 4”, so a 285/75-16, will have a tread width of around 11.4” wide, with the sidewall that’s 75% of that being 8.5”, making it 32” tall overall. The more sidewall hight you have, the better the tire can flex over rough terrain, plus you can air down to 10 psi in deep sand to help float over the sand, instead of digging in getting stuck. So 16 & 17” wheels are best off road, any wheels bigger, especially 20” and above have no place in rough terrain.
I remember when my buddy had HUGE 33s on his Wrangler. I had 37s with 5.38 gears on my Jeep and loved them. I liked my 37s but I think I may keep 35s on my SAS Bronco with 4.7 gears. FOR NOW......
You Jeep guys are ridiculous,, you go on fire access roads and to the mall and think you need 35s 😂 your stock tires were more capable off road than you ever will be
Just measured mine and I have 32” exact with a 2.5 inch lift with 1 1/4 spacers. It act awesome off road and looks good also. Can’t tell the difference between the 35”. 2011 JKU 13-15 mpg
Depends on what Jeep you have and its factory options, I have a 2014 sport without the towing package so I have 3.21 gears and running 33” tires the 3.21 gears suck for taking off from a stop it’s slow, when I’m already moving and go to speed up it’s fine but it all depends on what gears you have, 3.21’s can handle 35’s yes if you’re in town driving but it won’t be too happy about it, for 35’s the happy gear set would be 4.88’s or 5.13’s(if you plan on going to bigger tires then 35’s) otherwise 4.88’s would be pretty good
