3 Things I Really Don't Like About the Sig P320 M17 & M18 

I was in the first unit to recieve the M17 and deploy with it, i carried it and fired around 5k rounds through it, and never had a single malfunction

I didn't have the same experience. I own a lot of guns and since I bought my p320 x compact I haven't carried any of the others. It has been absolutely smooth and flawless for me. Over 3000 rounds through it so far with zero issues.

Yes, let the hate flow through you

Reliability is a crazy one to me. My 320 has been amazing on that front. I have about 4-5 thousand rounds through it with zero malfunctions. Also did 1000 rounds with no cleaning or lube shooting various ammo including steelcased garbage.

My P320 X-Carry is my favorite firearm I have in my collection. I have fired 7-9 k rounds and have never had a malfunction. I have gone over 1k rounds without cleaning and still no issues. I love my P320. Sorry you had problems.

My biggest issue with the drop safety is Sig calling it a “voluntary upgrade” when it should have been a clear recall. They’ve since been resolved but I can see a lot of people not having sent their guns in because “voluntary upgrade” doesn’t sound as pressing as a recall.

I get tired of glowing reviews. Keep doing honest critical videos like this one. You'll piss people off, but you'll make them look at their own guns (and guns they're thinking of buying) more critically.

Make whatever videos you want! I learn something new every time and it’s great to see you two having fun. Keep up the great work.

I am a M9 fan boy 100% but today I got my M18 and qualified with it. That was the smoothest shooting, tack driving, lowest bidder pistol I’ve ever shot. I don’t know if I got a one off or or all my units pistols are like that but I am sold on Sig now.

All of your gripes are accurate, and as an M18 owner I agree. For me, I acknowledge these issues, but I keep the gun around because its the best gun I can shoot, and the original P320 was my first handgun. Between the nostalgia and my performance, I'm willing to deal with the cons of the firearm. Sure I could get my junk blown off from a bad fall, but statistically speaking I'll get into a motorcycle accident before that happens (motorcycle is my primary form of transpo).

I generally like the P320 (aside from the imo kinda spongey feeling trigger), but my biggest beef with the guns is more what models Sig has on offer for them, particularly optics ready ones. Your options for optics ready P320s are: -One that already comes with one of their red dots so you end up paying extra for something you may not want -One that doesn't come with a red dot, but the rear sight is part of the optic mount cover so you lose your rear sight if you mount an optic -One that doesn't come with a red dot, and lets you keep your rear sight but it's a high end, more expensive model, so again you might be paying for bells and whistles you don't want If you want a basic, no frills P320, your best option is to just get a basic P320 and have someone mill it for an optic, but at that point you're stuck with whatever optic you get mounted to it. Sig also does not sell adapter plates, so you have to buy aftermarket if you want to mount something else. There's also 4 or so different optics mounting footprints across their various models. Some only accept Sig's own optics, some accept dpp, some accept rmr, some accept all. Allegedly some of the dpp footprint ones won't actually work with the dpp while some do. It's really bizarre to me that Sig can't offer a basic model with optics compatibility that retains the rear sights and lets the user pick their own optic, something that's offered by basically every other manufacturer out there.

I'm a big Glock fan. When the SIG was adopted by the military to replace the Beretta 92, beating out other designs, I did a lot of research, waited for the initial bugs to be worked out, and listened to the feedback of different users. All of this information led me to buy a Beretta 92 to go alongside my Glocks. Thanks, SIG.

As a satisfied owner of a P320 full-size, I think this video is extremely fair and honest. I’ve got nearly 1,000 rounds through the gun now, and ironically the only malfunction I’ve had was a couple failures to feed using Sigs HP ammo.

Thank you for your honest opinion and for pointing out some legit concerns. I'm a glock guy, but I also work in gun sales and it helps to have someone knowledgable advise on their experiences.

Personally have not had any issues when using any of the P320s I've put my hands on, but like you said, sample size is everything. Even without having any issues with it, its still important to have watched this and see what have been things others have encountered to be aware!

I have a M18 and have put thousands of rounds through it in the past nine months. I have never had one failure. Thank you for your videos, I do appreciate them!

Active duty here and I can say that the M18 is extremely unreliable. On a recent range shoot every M18 expect for maybe one had constant failure to feed and eject malfunctions.

I really like Sigs, but mostly the DA/SA hammer guns, 226, 229 and even the 2022 is a really good gun. Not much on the striker Sigs.

I want more videos where you rant about things you do not like that people do like. It’s needed. You were honest and respectful, and I appreciate that.

Honest reporting of one's personal experience shouldn't be a revolutionary act. My father told my brother and me, "Your word is your bond, if your word's no good, you're no good." Thank you for your frank and thorough appraisals.

My personal p320 has been 100% reliable. Probably about 3000 rounds so far. No exaggeration - not even “a mag issue” or “a bullet issue”. Literally zero issues. Granted, i oil it often (every 250 ish rounds), and I did have the drop recall done. It feels like it’s a janky gun. I’ll give you that. But it hasn’t failed me yet. All that said, the p226 will always “be” a better gun so I feel ya

I got a Sig P320 xcompact a few weeks ago. Really solid pistol, no issues so far. I shoot it better than my G19 but that's probably just because I have a red dot on it.

That's crazy, I have 3 320's and haven't seen any of those reliability issues.

When I bought my 320 I got the higher end XCarry with the upgraded grip, trigger, and sights. After 2000+ rounds the only problems I ever had with it were Sub sonic rounds and target rounds. The smaller guys just weren't overcoming the spring and caused jams. After a few hundred rounds through the gun everything wasn't so stiff and it loosened up enough to run smaller rounds but not enough to be 100% reliable. Anything 124+ grain I've never had a problem with and I love shooting my 320.

I've got the sig m17, I love mine. I've ran 2k rounds through it without a single jam. maybe I'm lucky I guess. great review and insightful as always.

My experience with a P320 overall was very positive, putting nearly 2500 rounds through mine with only one malfunction ever, but I did eventually swap to a G19, which I shoot better. Oddly, my G19 malfunctions significantly more often than my P320 ever did.

You hit the nail on the head I just couldn’t see myself selecting this over a Walther pdp, Glock, or CZ P10f Thanks for the great review

I love my M17. As you said, the fire control module is the best part about it. I run my M17 largely stock. Given that I'm 6'6" and wear 4XL gloves, the grip is actually great for me. No it's not a competition pistol, but it serves me well as an EDC, especially with the SureFire X300U and Leupold DeltaPoint Pro on it. The higher bore doesn't really bother me. I have low split times and because of the added weight of the X300U, I don't get as much muzzle flip as a naked pistol. I've never had a feed issue in 1000 rounds. Granted that may be low to some people, but for an every day shooter, that seems very reliable for a weapon that I really hope I never have to use except on the range.

Thanks for the honest review. My wife owns this gun and I’ve shot it several times. All of which I had no issues. Good to know they exist specifically the drop safe issue. Enjoy your videos.

Got a P320 x5 3 weeks ago, zeroed it. The took to a USPSA competition. Fired over 200 rounds no oil etc. not a single issue. Used steel ammo and PMC cheap brass stuff. Shot like butter. That’s my experience.

Very interesting observations about the Sig P320. Learning everything good & bad about guns is exactly why I love & watch your channel. I believe that's why you started the channel in the 1st place.

I changed the grip to the p80 version on my X5 and it was a game changer. I also added a light to the front for extra weight. Never had any failures in mine thus far. Love it overall.

The high bore axis is pretty much a product of it being a converted hammer gun. Hammer guns generally require a certain amount space to house the hammer and sear between the web of the hand and the slide. When they converted the DAO 250 to striker fire, they left the architecture of the gun pretty much intact.

I have fired 7,000 to 7,100 rounds through the M18 - no malfunctions, no FTF. I have fired over 100,000 rounds in the M9 and had thousands of malfunctions - FTE, stovepipes, half feeds, ...... I have fired 10,000 rounds in the M11 - no malfunction. I have fired 25,000 rounds in the MK25 - no malfunctions. What I have found - 124g, no issues. 115g....tons of issues.

The bore axis thing is so true. One of the first pistols I ever shot was the original P320 in 40 S&W, and I distinctly remember thinking, "Wow, that bopped back at me way more than I thought it would." Thing was a full-sized handgun, so I didn't expect it. Now, that being said, my buddy (the owner of the pistol) proceeded to lay flat on his back, lean up slightly to get a view between his boots, and nail a 1 1/2" wide pole across his pond at around 80 yards, so I have to give SOME credit where it's due.

Yes...more of these types of vids. I see enough 'reviews' that are essentially ads. The 'Honest' in Honest Outlaw is why I'm here. That and the 'that's what she said' banter between you and the Mrs.

I had a P320 XCarry and switched to the APX. Significantly more ergonomic and cheaper, at that. Lower bore axis, easier to conceal. Also has a striker block safety so no worries about drop safety issues.

I think you're ignoring the fact that both Sig and Glock are only interested in bringing the best $600 pistol to market with full knowledge that their customer base has every intention of making changes to them. I agree about the frame, I love it with a Wilson combat frame. Fair enough, but it was designed around the fact that there are thousands of options to put the best grip for you on it. Bore axis is quite a bit less important than you're making it out to be but I do understand that in the competition world milliseconds matter. The ergonomics, however, male it easier to put the first round on target, if only slightly better than glock. Seems like judging a defense pistol from a competition perspective is a little disingenuous. I'm at about 6000 rounds thru both M17 and M18 and I've had 2 failures. Both were stovepipe's with 115 grain federal while using a suppressor.

Reliability: My grandson has a G-17 MOS and a G-19. Both guns malfunction at least once every time we are at the range. We rented a PDP F because I wanted my wife to try it. It only got through a magazine without malfunctioning 2 or 3 times. If I based my opinion regarding the G17/19 and PDP off just this experience, it wouldn't look good for Walther or Glock. In general, our M&Ps are reliable as an anvil... the CZs are a tad more ammo picky, but a malfunction is rare. Today will be the first rounds thru my new P-320 Nitron Compact .45 and all I can say at this point is that it feels nice in hand and the trigger is nice. I picked it up yesterday, cleaned it, and lubed it. I don't anticipate any issues... but I plan to put 400 rounds thru it.

I own a Sig P320 9mm and absolutely love it! I've never had any malfunctions with the firearm and it's extremely accurate as long as I do my part, personally I think that the military made an excellent decision in choosing this firearm as their new sidearm and getting away from the Beretta M9.

Not the gun reviewer we want, but the one we need. Keep up the Honest work Outlaw.

I carried a SIG P226 for years, and loved it, but when I upgraded my arsenal, my research led me away from SIG and H&K pistols. I thought the 320's and VP9 looked fantastic on paper, but there was hesitation from military weapon enthusiasts due to reliability and flip of the 320, so your assessment rings true. I ended up with a Canik TP9 Elite Combat and Arex Delta for carry, and so far I'm very pleased (especially with the Canik). Now for a S&W 10mm...

The grip on the standard M18/P320 is one of my favorite grips…….so grip shape and grip texture are very subjective. For instance, I prefer the grip shape and texture of the original M&P Shield 9 mm over the new Shield Plus…… The “high bore axis” issue again is very subjective. I sold my APX full and Centurion because the slide even though it has a “lower” bore axis according to some, made the gun feel unbalanced and top heavy in my hands whereas the P320/M18 feels just about right. Recoil impulse to me was much stronger from the APX than the P320. I have zero problems getting and keeping a P320/M18 on target. I had to really work on keeping the APX on target due to muzzle flip. I have had zero issues and no malfunctions with my P320 and M18. Drop safe issue is not an issue with the M17 and M18 if the user uses the manual safety…….. Newer Sig P320s like mine……I have dropped it twice on concrete…….it did not spontaneously fire.

After switching to the Wilson combat Grip on my M18 It shoots extremely accurate and is weighed wonderfully. My accuracy is literally night and day. Idk what it is but it made a difference to make me feel so comfortable carrying and depending my life on it. The accuracy is superb and so is the control.

I love my p320. Feels great in my hand. No problems. Real smooth.

Had the p365, and p320 for about a year before passing them onto their next owners. Maybe if I picked one up as a first gun I could appreciate it more. But, as the 8th dozen firearm owned I expected much more than what it provides at those price points. Considering what you can get from other manufacturers. Put a p320 xl in one hand and any model Canik, Walther, Beretta or CZ has made in the last year in the other to see this issue.

Bore axis is an artifact of the P320 being a striker conversion of the P250 (which was hammer-fired) so it's not a ground-up design. And let's face it, for 99.9% of the shooters out there that don't use a shot timer, bore axis is a non-issue.

I’m only a few years into shooting, but I owned an M&P 2.0 And CZ P-10 and yet the Sig P320 is my favorite. With that said, any pistol is a backup to a rifle in my home and in the military.

That high bore axis is prone to "limp wrist" malfunctioning. It's a design flaw more so than shooter error. I designed my pistol with an extremely low bore axis, and it can't experience the same malfunction.

I have a Sig M18...only reason I got it was because it was the only gun I could find at the time that allowed me to use my winter gloves and safely shoot because of that nice big trigger guard. So far it works for me, my biggest complaint is how P320, heck Sig mags in general are way too expensive, and P320 magazines are almost never in stock. I like the high bore axis with the large beaver tail because the way my hand is, no slide bite, no joint pain, no banging into my thumb joint

I'm glad you put this video out. I was in my local shop today eyeing a 320XC and wondering if it is as good they want you to think it is. Believe me I love the look of it and it's modularity, but none of that will equal reliability. And as far as I'm concerned, reliability is the most important thing of all.

I’m shocked to see this one because the two 320s I have I have never experienced these issues. Idk if it’s because both of mine are custom works or not but I also don’t shoot as much as you. About once a week I try to shoot

My M17 is an edc for work delivering money. Been a solid choice for me and I’ve put several different types of ammo through it. Overall I’ve been happy with it

I’m a huge fan of the P226/P229/P220 but sadly I’ve always had trouble getting on board with other Sig handgun offerings.

While I don't have much time on the P320 as a standard handgun, I have been incredibly impressed with it as the operating system for the Flux Raider, and in tens of thousands of rounds, not having a single failure that was due to the P320 system or Raider. It is probably due to the fact that there is much less energy loss through movement of the frame when braced with a third point of contact.

Height over bore seems to be a personal preference from my point of view. I measured a distance of 3/8” between the Glock and the SIG. A Glock has a more aggressive grip angle which probably factors into the mental aspect of the perceived recoil versus the SIG’s more neutral angle. I know I’m on the outlier as I like the original grips rounded and contoured grip versus the X grip which is squared off. The X grip by the way has less material at the backstrap to give you about an 1/8” less height over bore, and probably was partly introduced to get more of the Glock guys to switch over to SIG. When you tested all the different variants, did you ever use anything other than the standard medium sized grip modules? You might have enjoyed a large grip frame better. This is of course meaning that you can get the Carry, Full-size and compact all in small, medium, and large grip sizes. Recoil springs are not the same for all, and would be tuned for the most reliable extraction of the most common rounds of that caliber during design. Whether a semi-auto is hammer fired or striker shouldn’t effect the spring weight because it’s the explosive gases of the firing round that over come the hammer or striker in addition to the mass of the slide. You experienced a lot of stove pipes (failures to extract) on many different model P320’s. I think you should be asking yourself what is actually causing this to happen to you on so many different P320’s. Ammo and limp wristing seem to be the two biggest causes and most common that I know of. Not a personal dig, but a self analysis. My digs on the P320 are that it feels sloppy in the hands. The slide has vertical play where there is no support at the muzzle from the rails. I would prefer the front guide rail be longer to help with this or SIG to possibly come out with an all milled FCU. Their constant changes to models during production without clear designation, such as the optics cut, and Xcarry barrel compatibility are very hard to follow. There are other points that I can’t remember at this point, so overall I like the pistol. I have found it to be accurate (single ragged 10 ring holes at 21’), reliable (no malfunctions across multiple grip frames and slides/barrel lengths and 500+ rounds of mixed 115, 124, and 147grain), extremely modular, light weight (compared to a P226).

You are my favorite gun channel on RU-vid for many different reasons, but the main reason is that I trust your reviews. Two of your reviews in particular were deciding factors in gun purchases. I bought the Sig Sauer Legion p226 sao after watching your review on that pistol and I purchased the Shadow Systems mr920 after watching your review on their pistol. So both those companies should pay you some dollars or at least help out the kid's homeless shelter you advocate for on every video. The reason your videos are so influential to me is besides the fact that you shoot really well and are very knowledgeable about guns is the fact that I feel your reviews are the most honest on RU-vid and this video is a prime example of that honesty. Sig Sauer p320 is a decent handgun, but it's high bore axis is not ideal. The drop safe issue is very concerning and it does not reliably feed ammunition in my experience as well as Glock, CZ, Walther, Smith and Wesson or H&K. People mistakenly think that the military chooses the best weapons to equip service members with through their military trials and that is not true. The weapons that win the government contract are the ones that meet the minimum requirements at the lowest cost.

I was an M&P guy. But I selected a Leupold DPP red dot then went to find something to mount it on. Mercy I could not get a straight answer out of S&W and found out because of the direct mount DPP, SIG was also a good shooter for me. Stuff like that is how a manufacturer blows a fourth quarter lead. If it were just iron sights, I'd be M&P. Incidentally SIG has been flawless so far.

90 percent of all of the M18's in our unit, have had the rear sights do the m1 garand thing, and flying off while shooting. We are consistently having to lock tight the rear sights back onto the gun, and even that is a temporary fix. Ontop of that, the loaded chamber indicator gets so full of carbon, that they remain poking up, showing a "loaded Chamber" the entire time. Theres more negative points I can state about this gun, but these are the the main issues we always have on them.

I own one (bought it in 2015), and I completely agree with your assessment. I’m not a fan, and I barely shoot it because I don’t particularly care for it. It was sent out for the voluntary “upgrade” to be drop safe, but they managed to change what I initially thought was a pretty good trigger in the process. I own more Sigs than I do any other manufacturer, and I generally like them quite a bit, but the 320 was a big let down.

I just bought a P320 and I own it to own it. My G19 is smaller in almost every dimension, lighter, more capacity, and has a longer barrel despite its size. It has a lower bore axis, and more aftermarket parts and cheaper mags. Still, I like the look of the P320 and growing aftermarket, despite me preferring all the other guns I like in my collection, hence why I bought one and still love it.

Couldn’t agree with you more. Bought a compact frame right when they came out several years ago. Took it to the range and put 200 rounds through it. Fired reliably but I hated the high bore axis and crappy grip as well. Felt like the gun was trying to jump out of my hand. I ended up selling it right afterwards for nearly what I paid for it.

The P320 has been my favorite pistol. Have easily 5000 rds without a single issue. For me, it point naturally and I shoot it well. I've the compact with Apex flat trigger and Wilson Combat grip module. Love it. I use my Glocks for door stops!

im a new gun owner, I bought the sig P320 because it was recommended to me. I have put 1000 rounds through it so far and not 1 malfunction. in my first visit to the range, i put 300 rounds through it and not one single malfunction. will I have malfunctions as I fire it more?? maybe, but so far, its very accurate, had no malfunctions, and I am very happy with it. I respect your opinion, you are WAY more knowledgeable than me when it comes to firearms, I am just reporting my use with the gun so far

The fact that the Army got greedy and just adopted these without going through the final stage of testing is borderline criminal. These issues should have been found and rectified long ago.

I’m surprised to hear about the reliability issues. I have multiple Sig 320s and have only had issues when I run really cheap ammo.

When I first got my M18, I had a ton of stovepipes with 115gr ball. After a couple hundred rounds and switching to 124gr ball the issue subsided completely and hasn’t returned since, but it was extremely frustrating at the time. I carry it every day now with a Wilson combat grip module, which rocks btw

I have the P320 x-compact and it’s been perfect so far. Zero issues of any kind. I really like it. Maybe Sig needs to improve their quality control, since some of their units have issues? Honestly a lot of brands need to improve quality control.

This is an honest review of the M-18, from the perspective of non-Mil; my everyday carry for a little over a year. No new lower. It's fucking great. If I aim slightly higher than the sight, I get deadshot. It cycles. It's not a drop issue. It's got great fall weight. Little recoil. And I'm small. This gun rides in my lower back, standard 17rnd mag. It's a beauty, I did however just order a Wilson combat lower.

I like the grip angle but the height over bore is ridiculous given the competition.

I recently purchased an M&P 2.0 9MM and the gun is great, however, it just didn't like 115gr range rounds. I tried my buddy's 124gr ammo and no issues in 200 shots. rock solid. I'll try some 115gr after I get 1000 rounds through it and see if anything changes...I was really disappointed when my first shot was perfect and my second shot didn't eject the round. The 124gr saved this gun for me. lol...I do like it, too!

The new version of the Beretta that you mentioned is modular. I’m a Walther PDP fanboy and own one in every configuration including the PDP-F

I actually purchased my first handgun thanks to your videos, it was down to the 320 and the P10c for me. The deciding factor was definitely the ergonomics. The SiG just felt like a dewalt in my hands while the CZ just felt like a better fit and the texturing just made me feel better about getting a good grip on the thing. So I went home with the CZ. That and the gun just looked prettier

I’m a bit undecided. I’m an instructor for the Marine Corps civilian police academy at Fort Leonard Wood. We switched to the M17 in the past year. We have some issues with the weapons; some of which could be attributed to a failure on the student to either properly clean the firearm or some limp-wristing. But, I’ve also seen plenty of failures to feed or eject. Now, I personally own a P320C, and have lost count of the number of rounds fired from my pistol. I have had maybe a handful of failures, most while using cheap ammunition.

Yes there are some serious downfalls to the SIG p320, however for me it just fits in my hand, the trigger, the reliability, it's flexibility and it's point of aim, grip angle these things are overwhelmingly good. I think that's why a lot of the negatives are overlooked.

This is why the XM17 trails should have went to phase 2 of the testing. It was stopped after phase 1 due to Sigs cheaper price.

Honest to god I’ve had an xcompact and it’s perfect for me. Not super experienced but it’s what I’ve loved from what I’ve tried most. Great feel, right size for me (5’7” small frame male). For a high end low tier carry gun, it’s great to me!

I don’t know anyone who carried the m9, that thinks the sig is better, lighter is what they all say is biggest positive thing about it. Most have had negative things to say. The gov could have picked any number of guns, but sig gave them a sweet deal.

Not HOutlaw, but for anyone not aware the Sigs come with shelf life lubrication in them (the cream). You need to clean before firing ,dry out the firing pin area, and put proper lube in the proper places. Unlike how Glocks come with the copper colored lube that offers both shelf life/storage and out of the box lube ready for duty.

This is interesting! I have put thousands of rounds through my 320 xcarry and have NEVER had a malfunction, albeit anecdotal. I also need to mention that my Glock 19x hasn't malfunctioned either. I clean and lube the piss out of my guns hyper frequently and it seems to have paid off. They are my 2 go to carries and I don't skimp on the pampering of those 2 specifically. Excellent content though man! 🤘 *edit* I also live in the middle of a gigantic prairie with no dust anywhere in sight. Maybe I need to put these things through more harsh environmental testing. I want to see of I can get them to shit the bed.

In my experience in competition the p320 is 100% reliable with little to no maintenance. I see more glock malfunctions then I ever see with a p320 mainly from people modifying the garbage trigger to improve it & get light strikes. I prob have 200k rounds through 2 legions & have never had a malfunctions not caused by me or ammo. As far as weight yes in competition guys add the tungsten grio for weight just like guys shoot cz because there so heavier (heavier than a p320 legion) and imo the lack of a trigger safety is a huge benefit when shooting weekhand. It's not a perfect gun by any means but there is a reason it's so popular in competition, shootablity,durability,reliability & modularity not to mention u ca n get an amazing striker trigger.

I almost bought one of these years ago. I liked the grip, I liked the sights, I liked the modularity, I liked everything about it… until I shot it. I just did not enjoy shooting it. A CZ or a Glock are more pleasant to shoot IMO.

X Compact owner here, love it. 3k rounds, zero malfs. I agree that the muzzle is a little flippy compared to other designs, but with 9mm recoil, even +P, I do not find it to be a problem. Like another commenter, I have huge hands , had to get the large grip module from Sig, and it could be a little more ergonomic, but I find it comfortable and controllable. The gun is definitely more accurate than me. Looking at a lot of the comments on this vid, I'm seeing that the X model owners are all happy with theirs. I don't know exactly what is different for the X slide other than the nice tritium sights, but this seems to be a trend- x compacts and carry work great, standard 320s and m17/18s have issues. That was a LOT of stovepipes! Makes me wonder about your ammo, maybe even your extractor. Were they clean, or a hundred rounds in at the time? Thanks for the vid!

To add to a previous comment about my P320 X5 Legion being completely reliable over 2K rounds and being so mild to shoot, I bought an M17 yesterday. I also have a Beretta APX Full Size that has never malfunctioned over an insane number of rounds. The M17 has been less than impressive. This morning I was getting 2-3 malfunctions per 100/rds over a range of ammo. I shot until the 250 mark today. We'll see what the future holds.

Wow. As far as reliability goes, I’ve had zero malfunctions with my M18, I’m at just over 1k rounds at this point.

From an engineering standpoint it's a bit of an awkward retrofit of the p250, with a lot of "why would you ever do it this way?" The main advantage in the competitive world seems to be "we've added weights to it." Effective, yes, but not exciting.

I have the M17 and love it. I shoot competition and have had NO problems at all with it. I guess the best gun to own is the one that you shoot best.

I’ve put like a 400 rounds through my Nitron Compact P320. I honestly love it, I haven’t had any problems with it at all. It shoots really well, I like the trigger and it’s just well designed to me

I have an M17 & M18, both completely "stock" other than TALON Grips. The ONLY time I've had malfunctions was after about 1000 rounds of not cleaning it, I switched from "various range ammo" to Magtech ammo. Upon switching to Magtech I started having one failure-to-fire (light strike?) about every 50-100 rounds. After a VERY thorough cleaning I discovered tiny brass particles in the striker assembly. I stopped using the Magtech in my P320s and stopped having issues. [NOTE: The Magtech ammo ran just fine in my P365 and in my S&W M&P.]

I do love my P320's, but doing the same drills at the range a couple weeks ago I was both demonstrably quicker and more accurate with my Glock 19 than with my P320 Compact, especially in a failure to stop drill. Still love the P320, but I'll be carrying the Glock.

I have/have had 4 P320 pistols, and haven't had anywhere near the malfunction issues you have had with yours. I have had some issues, but I have also had issues with my P10C and SP01 Tac. Just seems to be hit or miss with every company. No pun intended.

I'll take my CZ P07 any day, fantastic ergonomics.

I have used my m17 for about 2500 rounds, never had a malfunction.

I got my M18 yesterday and ran straight to the range, fresh out the box I ran about 300 rounds of Winchester white box and blazer aluminum without a single malfunction. I really enjoyed it

I was also concerned originally with the bore axis but for some reason it just shoots flat as hell for me. Always baffled me.

HK VP9 fan here! It’s hard to beat. Never been a fan of the 320’s. I do, however, love the P365. The XL is my everyday carry.

I'm glad to hear about the drop safe issue being brought up again. I agree that it's clearly not a wide spread issue, but is still an issue nonetheless. I was impressed to see the P320 run perfectly in Garand Thumb's (exaggerated but entertaining) frozen handgun video, but I think the P320 still has needs some more time to be proven. The lack of trigger safety means it went bang even when frozen, but if it means it can go bang without trying, that's a problem. Now that Sig basically owns the majority of US military contracts, they deserved to get knocked down a peg, since having those contracts means they may skimp on QC and other factors to keep raking in the dough. Great video

As a NCOIC armorer, we have had zero issues....our unit has already put more than 200K rnds down range....other than user error, no issues.....

Good looking firearm! Great idea with the modularity and interchangeable grips/slides. Shoots good! Just because the military uses it, doesn’t mean it is the best (for you). Got rid of mine with similar issues. Went back to P99…..still waiting on “the one”