I'm scared shitless of any card trick involving the gambler's cop: I know it works fine if the angles are right, but having that much of a card sticking out of my hand is enough to induce a panic attack!
Good video. I still remember David Roth saying something along the lines of: "No matter how good your retention pass is and you vanish the coin, they will look at the other hand."
It's best to show the palm of the dirty hand before the coin vanishes. Ramsey subtlety, back clip, downs palm, it doesn't matter how. Don't draw attention, just allow your palm to be seen empty before the vanish.
at the 8th minute explanation, i relate that when you do misdirection. you must believe the coin has vanished and they will too. for example the disappearing pen, if you look up the audience will look up too during the illusion like wise any card from thin air illusion etc. and of course angles and distance etc etc
Nice video. I like the idea behind the coin vanish, which is, essentially, be natural. A basic FP works well for me, and looks and feels natural. I'm sure many will find this one works well for them. So long as it looks and feels natural, it's a keeper. I completely agree with Lloyd's thoughts on "skill magic." I tend to think it diminishes the magic a bit in most cases. Flourish-y stuff has its place, but I don't want people to see it and start to think "it's all sleight of hand" during the magic. Lastly, I think it is overthinking things regarding the use of foreign or unfamiliar coins. Coins seem to be one of those objects that people can't seem to see being altered for magic, so they don't really question the use of unfamiliar ones. The most they might be thinking is "Hey, cool coin" but if any of them are wondering whether it's a gimmick, you might be doing something wrong to arouse that kind of suspicion over a coin. To limit yourself to using only current, non-foreign coins seems to be an example of running when not being chased. Just my opinion. (Although I do agree that borrowing coins whenever possible is a definite plus. I just don't think it hurts the magic any if you don't...).
Lloyd, this is the first time I have had the pleasure of seeing you work. Fantastic video all around. You are a natural as far as teaching and performing on camera. I know you have heard every compliment out there, and all well deserved, but I have to repeat a compliment on how very well you handle that empty hand as though it is holding/manipulating the coin before revealing it is not there. I have found that in every basic vanish I do, if I don't ditch the coin that is in the hand it originally started in (i.e. the one they shouldn't think it is in after you do the pass/vanish), once I reveal the hand as empty, if there is not a significant time gap and/or some diversionary talk or other distractions in between, the spectators will instinctively say "it must be in the other hand...". However, I suspect that with your style and finesse, you must rarely have that problem. Is that correct? It damn near fooled me! lol. Great job again buddy. Looking forward to seeing more of your stuff. Matthew Paul
Hey Lloyd, I dig what you're saying but there's always a flip side. If you think about what Tamariz says about leading them down the garden path, so to speak, then wearing a watch just adds layers to the misdirection. I personally love wearing long sleeves, a watch and a ring while doing coin magic and many of my idols do, too. I wear these items on any normal day, so why should my audience be suspicious? If anything, it adds to the elegance. Wearing watches and jewelry kinda implies "Hey, I know what you might be thinking but check this out." You can always slide up the sleeves or do sleights that never imply the watch. But then there's a bonus effect when you DO want to sleeve or ditch to the shirt pocket, or use the watch and even ring as a utility! Besides, you say stripping down to the bare hands leaves them nowhere to go...how about the other hand? It doesn't matter how great your retention is--logic implies it's in the other hand. It's the number one complaint of most coin magic. And to your second point, I have to say I also disagree. Unless I find native currency the same size I'm used to performing with (larger), then I think it's fine to use my go-to coins. Would a card magician avoid card magic if the native game in Cuba was dominoes? If the worry is they can't relate to the coin--simple--hand out the coin and talk about it. Tell them its history, what you love about it. A coin is a coin is a coin.
Nice miming with the empty hand! I use morgans because I like them and because they are much easier to see from a distance. To me it seems to be enough to "own" the prop to justify it. People seldom ask me about why I use them. And if they do, I tell them that they look so pretty and also that they are easier to see is. Thanks for the video!
The flashy intro resulted in my teacher catching me watching this in class. She said, "Quinn, you're not learning the material." I said, "why yes I am learning. I'm learning MAGIC from the Ellusionist Training Facility!"
Heyyy Loyd that vanish is really cool and thanks for the tips. Coin magic is really important in my repertoire so... I hope there will be more coin tutorials on the channel ;)
What do you think about using half dollar coins or full dollar coins? I use both regularly and always let the spectators inspect my coins first before an effect so they know that the coins are just coins. What do you think about that? That way you kill that method for them where the coin is the method.
Video was 3 years ago so it's fair to say no one will read this but I'd like to comment about taking the watch off. I see it as deliberately planting a misdirection in the audience's minds. Just so long as you don't go overboard with removing the watch at the beginning, after you complete the move successfully their brain is processing the "what!? how!? who!?" you've already planted "well, it wasn't the watch" answer in there. Nice.
Hi. You are using "simplistic" when you should really be saying "simple". "Simplistic" means "too simple". Thanks for the advice about creating gaps between the fingers, especially such an elegant way to support the coin.
Look at the hand the coin is not in to make sure your audience is looking at the same hand. Then since your hand with your coin has less attention whilst vanishing the coin in the empty hand pocket the coin.
A hilarious mistake when speaking he said engorged rather than engaged! It's a funny slip up. Hopefully he finds it funny too so it's like laughing with him. We all make little mistakes like that.
Your right hand should drop to your side, in light of -- that's what you'd do if it were empty -- and raise up the left as natural control of audience attention. Working on YT is robbing you of real-life performance skills. Be real.
No one cares about what type of coins you are using. Barely anyone carries change anyways and most of the time people are just surprised to see an old coin. I always use non gimmicked coins so they can be handled but ditch gimmicks in numerous ways if need be. I love the false transfer though. That clip is great!!
