30. The Lost Stories of Love is Blind: Season 5’s Renee Poche 

Yeah, they do that on Married at First Sight. They should do that in this situation because they only talk for a few days prior to engagement.

They have a therapist on site

@@pinkyaliyaclearly a shitty one. They probably got their degree in a lottery

It would be such an interesting part of the show. If during the part they are living together they had like a couples therapy once a week to work out their issues. I know 3 sessions wouldn't help that much but at least it could lay a more healthy foundation.

Agree

LIB, we were rooting for you, we were all rooting for you! ;)

Yup, 3 mentally unstable and dangerous people. They all have personality disorders at the very least. Scary.

Birds of a feather flock together !!

All red flags 🚩

Just saw a pic of JP going IG official with new gf. She’s holding this HUGE can of Michelob. Is ANYONE surprised? 😂

i agree, if the production team is the same as the ultimatum, then yeah, they do not protect their cast members

Right!!!

Pressuring someone to stay in an abusive relationship for content is crazy!

​@@debbieakadely1212ki

YUP!

It continues to baffle me how many people earnestly ask "well why don't they vet participants better and provide mental health support for everyone?" Producers deprive the participants of *sleep, food, and even WATER* while giving them plenty of alcohol. Yet people can't figure out why producers don't look into applicants better or provide therapeutic support...? "It's a feature, not a bug" and all of that.

This 100%

⁠@@OKBgoshI don’t think they deprive them for water, food and sleep let’s not make up stories. Izzy said in one podcast that they were giving them so much food there that he even put on weight. I don’t think he’d lie about this also because he’s very good friend with Reene

@@iuliagligor4814 maybe look into this more and you'll know I'm not "making up stories" 🙄

She needs to sue.

​@@mamameg9916 well said. There needs to be a class action suit at this point. I dunno that I can in good conscience continue to support this show, given all the atrocities they seem to be committing and injury they're inflicting on cast members.

​@@ayeeshahm9078same! I thoight it was entertaining but it doesmt feel like a good thing to give my energy to

Let´s hope the producer who was on site with Renee and Carter has been fired and will no longer work in reality shows..

Im about to listen to the episode, but didnt she say she did go to the dress fitting? She did go to the altar with him and on that episode Lydia presents her just as a friend going with her to see her trying on dresses, so how would they know at that point she was not going to marry? If she also was there supposedly to try on a dress for her but they just didn air that part?

i was thinking this ! it seems that it happens pretty often, it should be required. they are setting the women up for disaster by having multiple options of unemployed men

THIIIS!!! I’ve said it once & I’ll say it again…but the ENTIIIRE CASTING DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO REPLACED !!

Your comment is classist and disgusting.

... and also participants who are about to leave the city where it´s been taped -- and where supposedly the couples would live -- to work on a Master´s degree in California - as is the case of Milton and other participants of other seasons as well...

Exactly 💯

Right?! Like the women were the problem? The men were UNHINGED

Doesn't speak well of the Houston male dating pool!

Right?! Good point!

people are not used to see women thriving over men

thank u!! they really tried to paint stacy as materialistic cause she didnt want struggle love

She did an interview on Jessie Woo's channel

​@@nichellejolly-ogiste2721I think that was Miriam. Aaliyah did an interview with Cameron Hamilton

​@@thehibernatingturtle4016she interviewed both ladies. The Aaliyah interview came out a few days ago.

I think that once Chris Coelen and the big wig producers saw the footage and realized things were not resolved as soon as they started, they went - oh my God, what the hell happened? -- I´m hoping they fired those in charge of the situation when it happened and that they implement some safety precautions for future seasons. They cannot say anything to Renee or the public for fear of lawsuits...

I thought so too, I was shocked

Lowkey it's because Miriam is african

They've done the same on MAFS, guys with no income, no living from savings/ residuals.

I think these shows need to stop casting loser dudes but the commitments the show requires probably isn’t possible for most people who have good careers. Maybe they need to change the filming format.

😅 love the way you put that! 100% agree - really bad taste to dig on Miriam - she should be applauded not dragged and excuse me … the dudes…yeah what you said lol

​@AlishaOutridge I would agree with you if women with quality careers were not being casted. It is an insult to the women to try and pair them up with these losers.

Lmaooo yes

I think they need to stop scouting people/recruiting from apps. Not that people who use dating apps are problematic or anything, but it seems to me the ones who are more serious about making a connection are people who take the time to apply.

Season 4 gave me newfound hope bc I loved Tiffany and Brett and Zach and Bliss. But idk dude.

@@vanessahobbes3072yessssss! Exactly this

I agree they need to have proof of having a job and be cleared by a therapist. Carter saying not having a job was his way to weed through essentially the gold diggers is hilarious because you aren’t a gold digger for wanting a man to have some kind of job or goal in life. Not everyone was asking for a rich man.

It seems to be they keep inviting people to participate instead of going through the applications of regular people. The producer of the show here in Brazil said that after the first season, their focus was on choosing people who actually applied. They have to send a video of them, their family, and their lives in general - like, describing who they are - then they need to fill out a questionnaire, and go through interviews with the psychologists and casting producers. She said they had a team of over 20 people doing that and that by now, they can tell right away who wants to really get married and who is just there for a freebie. Last season was somehow successful and two couples are still together...

They probably didn't want Sedition Hunters to ID them. 🤔🤪 (Sedition Hunters is a network of online volunteers who comb through photos and videos posted online from Jan 6 to help identify insurrectioners.)

it´s not their fault, but the casting producers´ fault --- bad casting, bad participants, and bad results...

Right! They didn’t want their shitty behavior filmed bc they’ve probably lived their entire lives blaming their shitty behavior on women and once it’s filmed and the entire internet is siding with the women they can’t escape themselves anymore.

@@MartaRC32 Nah, JP and Carter are adults who are responsible for their bad behavior. Production is responsible for their own decisions, as well, but that doesn't give anyone carte blanche to bully or abuse others.

And Uche's friends with JP too. ☠️

As we should! They should have never allowed this to go on as long as it did. It’s sad.

The crew was also at risk - the camerapeople and producers who do these shows are usually very young, they probably were scared to death as well...

I doubt it. Everyone was perfectly happy to watch Matt scream at Colleen, and people are still trying to claim he isn't abusive.

Production probably wanted to show Renee's story simply because it was "juicy" ...to see someone get abused? But given the way they also pushed another woman to stay in an abusive situation this season, their lawyers probably convinced them to cut Renee's footage to avoid boosting that lawsuit. Some dark, lonely corners of the internet might celebrate Carter as some kind of hero, but the majority of viewers would be able to recognize abuse when they saw it. Glad Renee stood up for herself and cut ties.

Yes, I second this. Totally appreciate you ladies for having her on and allowing her a safe space to tell this incredibly crazy story.

I loved her in all the clips they did show of her on the girl's side

What bothers me too is that any girl who dates Carter now might not know his true colors. The footage could have exposed him for who he is and prevented someone from getting hurt. Without it now it’s just Renee’s word against Carter, so he can potentially manipulate the situation to attempt to make himself look better. 100% I believe Renee..unfortunately not everyone will.

I don't necessarily agree with the fact that they should have kept some footage in since that would be making her trauma and abuse entertainment for others, even with a disclaimer you never know how the audience will react

Oh man the Ultimatum. I still say Ray and Zay, and Ray and Shanique were borderline violent when it came to Zay's outbursts

@ciriiluu yeah that’s true, I wouldn’t want that either. I guess from my perspective it feels like the incentive for pulling it from the show seems less about protecting Renee and more as a way for production to cover their a*s with the pending lawsuit. I got the impression too that she wanted her story to be told. I think if they did air it I would hope too it would be in a way that isn’t too triggering. Maybe it is best that it was pulled though, it would have been worse if they aired it and tried to edit it to make Renee look like an unstable crazy girlfriend or something.

@@ciriiluu fair point! I also felt like cutting them completely in the way that they did felt more like protecting themselves (and him) more than Renee, especially since from what she said they were aware of what was going on while it was happening and made her keep filming. After they made her film all of that, to not include any of it, and re-edit things to twist the truth feels really icky to me. Perhaps they could have shown their pod bits but nothing more. Idk it’s a tough one for sure.

Chris Coelen - the creator and producer of the show - said that the crew is not allowed to interfere with the interactions of the participants of the show. But I think that when he stipulated that rule, he had no idea that things could get so ugly. He mentioned in an interview that there are thousands of things going on at the same time when they are taping the show and that he can´t be everywhere. Well, obviously this was the case, as Chris is a veteran in reality shows and he knows for a fact that what happened to Renee is not good for her or for the business itself. I´m hoping he will make sure this never happens again...

@@MartaRC32that is such bs. The production team admittedly manipulates situations such as pushing them to disrobe and shower together. So they definitely don’t stay out of interactions - they actively create them. Furthermore, the cast is no different than an employee. As such, US and state harassment and assault laws would apply. So the show runners have legal reason to protect their “employees”. If I were her, I’d sue for sure. They not only didn’t protect her, but they likely perpetrated dangerous situations. I’m done with this show. Disgusting behavior and treatment of people for money. Every person working on that show should be forced to go through ethics and harassment training. And a certified counselor should be present during filming. This shite is insane.

​@@MartaRC32 I hope you're right! He needs to fire 95% of this production team and hire dignified, respectable psychologists and academics to cultivate this show into something honorable. Couples therapy ongoing for everyone throughout the whole process. Immediate intervention any abuse. It's possible but needs a lot of work and proper oversight. They need to hire me to be the set grandma

Exactly nailed it

IMO they should have removed HIM from the show, not her. Then if she wanted to stay they could have still done a one sided storyline of her going to altar with him not showing up, or bring back another cast member back for a date with her.

the sad part is she was being called shady because she is now married to someone else. I hope Netflix knows to release all episodes together to give full context and not let uninformed people speculate and attack.@@AmberrLynn13

I completely agree with your statement, I meant remove her from the situation. Not have these 2 continue filming unless she chose to. I should've clarified. But yes, I was concerned for her even rejecting this man at the altar.@@reflectsonlife

Exactly. It was escalating to physical abuse and not long before it would have gone there. Also, with everything she went through, her story should have been shown. As long as she’s willing and wanting to be validated. It also (and I’m speaking from someone who was abused as a child and then in relationships as an adult and it has taken me a very long time to learn possible red flags) has the potential to reach others who may be going through it or prevent people from going through it by seeing how it can progress and how it never starts out that way but is a slow build up. Trauma bonding is real ya’all. Renee is so brave, beautiful and strong. She seems both fun but realistic with a kind heart and good head on her shoulders. I wish her healing, happiness and may what she’s been through come back in ways of kindness and nurturing. Also, don’t get me started on production and the crews - I don’t care if you don’t have dv training, when your getting treated like that and you can’t take it and walk off, for the love of jeezus don’t leave the other partner/person in there alone to defend herself. Send someone in to talk to her and bring her somewhere safe. There is no amount of tv drama and editing to compromise someone’s safety and well being. This is not within the norm of a typical relationship spat. Aaaaargh. Makes me so mad when they say ‘stay strong and give him another chance’ when literally that next chance could mean your life. Bloody azzhats. Anyway - rant over - be well Renee - be proud, you did great and by coming forward guaranteed you are helping others. ❤

Good point, this Carter guy made Izzy look like Bill gates ;-)

My thought exactly !!

Same ❤

Except the fact that he tried to invalidate Aaliyah’s feelings ….it wasn’t aired so you probably aren’t aware

Unfortunately, a restraining order is just a piece of paper. She's armed in an open-carry state. She's doing the right thing.

Cameron and Lauren are probably going - honey, is this the same show we met a few years back???

​@@MartaRC32right?!!! They were two of a kind👌🏼

Exactly!!!!

I think Shane had a drug problem, maybe a prescription drug, but he was on something, scary...

@MartaRC32 I've seen him swear his actions were due to an extreme ADHD diagnosis but when he said he spent $2000/month on door dash I thought I bet that's code for drugs

Word for word!!!

Wearing USA flag outfits 😭

Milton has a fan 😅He seems like a decent fellow but 24 is just too young to get married for most people and I don’t think Lydia is his soulmate but they seem to be doing OK. How do we know?

@@eyekandy3000 that's such an American pov

And then ended up with a woman incapable of personal accountability. Its a very uninspiring couple. Would have liked to see him with either Taylor or Aaliyah.

yes, that was weird - hello??

Omg sooo true. Isnt she a Veterinarian?

And fish eaters who pay for this to happen will like this comment 😳

Unfortunately those are the options in Houston 🤷‍♀️

right like wtf these women deserve the best!!

Love Is Blind is drama focused! They had no problem cutting your entire segments but happily aired the abusive treatment towards the Black woman, Diamond from season 1. Carlton treated Diamond abysmally. They didn’t do anything to protect the Black woman from total humiliation. They protected the pretty blonde haired & blue eyed woman though. Love Is Blind is pure trash!

Well, she is a veterinarian. I´ve never seen a vet who was not sweet and adorable, just saying ;-)

@@MartaRC32 guess you missed the Shake season 😂

Except for Milton! He was great & mature.

Eh, still don’t like Milton. Something off there. But also only better compared to the lowest dregs of society.

Yeah, he definitely was walking red flag. But the anger about the shower is justified because what the hell. It's too many instances of Production being pushy and not respecting people's boundaries

Same here. I will not be watching the next season.

It’s also why I didn’t understand the vitriol behind Lydia n Aaliyah. From the reunion, when Nick asked Aaliyah straight up about production playing a part in the situation n she looked scared to answer. Casting should have vetted ppl (finances, mental health, criminal past) n a therapist should’ve present in the pre-screening as well. The only thing they should have to worry about is if their personalities mesh, how do you handle disagreements etc

No stop producing it but run backgrounds check and immediately remove dangerous people and use the footage to give the proof to the police

FR!

Yeah… like: ‘what money are you referring to?’ 🤣🤣

I was thinking the same thing 😂

I think Taylor broke the contract by leaving which means she has to pay 50,000 dollars to the show. I guess some people can’t afford or want to pay the money to leave

But what about Jackie from last season?

I think they are afraid because the contract says they could have to pay $50,000. At the end of the day, I’m not sure how enforceable that is, it’s more of a scare tactic. Some fell for it, others didn’t.

👏👏👏

Just commented the same! These influencers do not do their research or just don’t truly care. Sad

Agree on everything you said except for the therapist, they are selecting real therapists now, the problem is that they dont pay them enough but as far as selecting the therapist they are doing that in the correct way now

@@ms.shineray they are selecting real therapist now is such an insane sentence. 😂 there’s still super sus therapists on the app. Also, you’re neglecting the fact they *just finished a class action lawsuit a few months ago…*

@@MiLlamoName precisely I am speaking about the now and you are speaking about few months ago, I would check your semantics if I were you, there are also super suspicious therapists practicing in real life but I guess you don’t care as long as they aren’t on the bh app

In my humble opinion, to go through therapy, you need to go in person and on-site with a professional who is highly recommended by people you know and-or trust. For certain things, online is a big no-no to me - like, actually a huge no-no, as it is for this case here...

Thx !

That's just it: they absolutely *did* do their jobs. Their jobs are deeply unethical as they put people in emotional and even physical danger for the most drama they can possibly record.

Girl yes!! “I want my daughter to date someone like that??” this weirdo who wears too much American flag paraphernalia.

Right, I forgot about that line. I know I was like 🤨

... that gun part was the worst to me... wow... soooooooo scary.....

@MartaRC32 and just when you thought it couldn't get any worse.... Renee did another interview with "Gilet Says" check it out it get even worse 😳

It is really simple . Alpt of these men are on that red pill shit and believe women are out to get them for their money. He wanted to be married because he was a hobosexual and intended to live off her . Marriage was a way for him to secure income through exploitation and abuse . Peep game

Oh wow 😢 ok

Thank you, someone said it! I was so disappointed by them plugging Better Help, given alllll that's come out about it by now!

This !

Exactly