.327 Federal Mag VS 9mm in Short Barrels - Federal Hydrashok Low Recoil 

Great video comparison, 327 ammo is really hard to find right now. 357 ammo is so high that you about have to mortgage the house to buy it. I swear, If the Biden administration has their way, Not only will Pellet & BB guns be banned, but they'll keep going until they end up banning rubber band guns too. Have you ever compared a lower powdered 327 to a 38 +P rd? I had heard that a 38+P is just a little under a 357 but I have a hard time believing that. If I heard you agree with that I'd believe you because you would know from testing. Great channel by the way. I subbed. Peace..

Well, help make it popular, buy a few!!! Can't go wrong.

S&W used to offer a REALLY nice little J-Frame in this caliber. I believe the model designator was 632. One version even came ported from the factory. Very, very nice...and also very pricey; well north of $1K. Tough to get folks to pony up that kind of dough for a 6-shot J-Frame. I wanted one, but the price was more than I could manage at the time. When I went back later when I could afford it, the gun had sold and shortly afterwards, S&W discontinued the model. Too bad for me! The Ruger LCR is great (I own three), but not in the same class. S&W, are you listening?

Get an SP101, not a Smith, but definitely not a lesser arm.

I’ve never seen a S&W 327 Fed Mag but they have made runs of 32H&R.

Thank you and thanks for watching.

order online then.

Gunbroker is your friend (enemy to your wallet though).

@@willo7734 GunBroker is certainly my frenemy

Merry Christmas

I carried a large pistol and then a pocket pistol. I’m over it. Now and always, it is the wheel gun. Maybe some day the pistol for backup.

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Thanks for watching

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Thank you.

*the fun

Thanks. I miss the thumbs down feature being shown. Sometimes it's annoying but I find it amusing when I do put out a good video and in 5 minutes before the video could be fully watched, I get a thumb down. I'm like LOL. Makes me feel good to be disliked in general. Means someone is jealous or something which makes me feel good, but also makes me laugh as i'm just a regular guy.

Thanks. Yeah I have more fun with the bigger pistols, but you are right. People do like the short barrel stuff a lot too.

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I respect and appreciate a snub nose revolver, for the simple fact that it is easily concealable and packs a lot of punch in a small package. Of course depending on the caliber. But from 3 feet away, even a 22LR placed skillfully, five consecutive shots in a row will make your assailant reconsider his life decisions

That is the exact reason we all love mr.sam. His tests are very educational, unique and fun to watch. And the best part is that he likes to test all handgun calibers. Watch, the day will come where Sam will start testing carbines and handgun calibers and then rifles sometimes. We love you mister Sam your country loves you you are doing a great service and you are the perfect Ambassador for our 2nd Ammendment immortality

Thank you.

Yeah it's one of those things. Like even if you lose velocity, you still retain all of the recoil. It all magnifies when in a short barrel. 125 or 158 gr .357 feels the same in the 686 but in the snub it goes from bad with 125 gr to brutal with 158 gr.

@@GunSam I feel like I've gained more recoil sensitivity over the past years. My inclination for a J-Frame load would be to run a projectile out of a 38 Short Colt case using 9mm Lugar load data. This still requires a 357 Magnum rated revolver. But I can run a smaller charge at the same efficiency as 9mm and reduce the recoil and blast I would get from a 38 Spl+P load. I've not completed research in that area because I can run 9mm loads out of a P365. And it holds more of them! Then there is the 22LR rabbit hole. A J-Frame can hold 8 of those vs the 5 in 38 caliber. At what point does the round count advantage counteract the ballistic disadvantage? I don't know the answer to that. What I do know is that a revolver is more reliable than a pocket auto in 22LR (or even 380 ACP) in terms of function. Hit a dead round, just pull the trigger again. No malfunction clearance drills to worry about. In your case, I'm thinking that your switch to carrying a 327 Federal Magnum with six is a good one in that the extra round is 20% more fire power. You also have not given up much ballistic performance. To me that seems like a win. For me, I just haven't made the transition. The Ruger LCR is the only revolver I know of that runs that caliber and it isn't cheap. Also there is the issue of ammunition. I don't have any in that caliber. I also don't really relish the idea of dealing with the blast of a 327 FM out of a 2" barrel. That is a high pressure round on top of everything. Blast is also an issue for me.

I agree, and carry a three-inch six-shot H&R Magnum. Hornady now sells a Critical Defense round in .32 H&R Mag! (I stocked up on these just before the Covid ammo panic.) I also have some Buffalo Bore HOT rounds that might as well be called +P, and they cause Zero visible damage to this modern revolver even with much bigger blast. Don't try them in old guns from the Seventies!..........................elsullo

I hope to test 3" guns someday. When I bought my governor I was looking all over for a 3" .357 mag and they didn't have any.

Nothing beats the LCR9mm for so many reasons. Love the gun. In fact my favorite and I own a whole lot of firearms.

I haven't shot that gun. I would suspect my LCP is close.

I can tell you do not get a see camp 380. You will never shoot it more than 10 times to practice as it hurts like hell. Which is not good. Many videos the see camp 380 is uncontrollable. If do get see camp the 32acp is far easier to shoot, practice, and it's cheaper easier to find in 32 acp.

But that's the thing. The .327 Federal was designed off of a 3" revolver and optimized to do well in short barrels. The 45,000 PSI gives efficient burn with the right load. This load and the hot Gold Dot are neither really the right load for a snub but they aren't bad.

Hey Mike, I have the sp-101 with a 3" barrel. The best thing since night baseball.

Strangely Ruger offer the LCRx in 3 inch in all other calibers. .38,.357, ,22lr and 22WMR but not in .327. Thats really wierd.

@@Gieszkanne false statement dear mortal. It just so happens that I purchase in LCR revolver chambered in none other than 327 mag baby. In a 3in barrel I can hit a squirrel in the eye from 78 yards

Thanks. The Buffalo Bore 100 gr is in the middle, sort of softer. The problem is it's an XTP. A 100 gr Gold Dot at the 1,250 FPS or so Buffalo Bore gets in this snub would be perfect.

Yeah very cool and Macho of you. But what if, what if the person behind your intended target is a venison sweet bystander that never meant to leave this earth without saying goodbye to his or hers or themselves, these, etc( insert different genders here) loved ones

I haven't tested that micro version yet. I thought it was interesting how HST has a 147 gr and a micro 150 gr. Just makes me wonder what design difference makes one 3 gr heavier. It is something I should test.

@@GunSam I was wondering if a softer (closer to pure lead) core and/or a thinner jacket accounted for that difference...

That's shameful a dealer would ask that. And magnum or 9mm LCR should run like $550 now days

@@GunSam I know. It was 2 dealers in the area that had them in stock. Both right at $900.... sad

That's price gouging for sure.

Maybe it’s the Gun Sam Surcharge. Now they know what they got.

@@ratagris21 Yeah...it sucked.

Personally I like a large 9mm for an auto. The reason goes beyond terminal ballistics. It's because my M&P 9 has never jammed even once. Considering I test different HP designs weekly, that's impressive.

@@GunSam yes the M&P line are extremely reliably

I have seen stuff like that penetrate like maybe 15" in straight gel from the snub.

Ment Bologna didn't proofread before I submitted

Explain that to all the cracked nickel plated cases I have in .357 Mag lol.

@@GunSam Never had a case crack on any of my ammo

The LCR grip is a tad thicker, but other than that not much different. I have used J-frames and LCR's in the same pocket holster. Near identical.

@@GunSam - Cool, thanks. Slightly thicker grip probably means less felt recoil, maybe? I like the trigger on the LCR. Hmm ...

NOE .315 Keith 133gr hard cast, sized and lubed to .314, at about 1100-1150fps in 4 5/8" bbl works for me. Factory Federal AE 100gr JSP does 1600fps in same gun. In a .22 frame, you know you've touched off a magnum.

lol. His video was wrong. I don't have a 9mm revolver as I never saw one for sale in my stores I shop at. He used the weakest .38 and .357 ammo and good 9mm ammo. If you had the best 9mm+P ammo in a 9mm snub you would get as much as maybe 375 ft lbs. I have personally gotten rounds up to 600 ft lbs from my 2" Taurus .357 snub, but generally .357 in a snub is 100 ft lbs more than 9mm in a snub.

@@GunSam I too have seen some "iffy" selections in bullet loading choices in some popular Channels! Some are clearly designed to make the gun look bad; I have to wonder who was paid what? Ya gotta take anything on RU-vid with a grain of salt. Except Gun_Sam!..............................elsullo

From my understanding, while hearing damage is still possible, in a life or death situation, your ears that normally pick up a painful 150 db will only register 40 db, meaning you are not disoriented. I never experienced it personally, but it was something I was told at a firearm training class.

.327 Federal Gold Dot is something like 440 ft lbs in this snub and 500 ft lbs in a 3" barrel.

My comparisons are nearly all within the same brand and ammo line, period. Should have could have doesn't come into play.

Yes but you have to shoot them in a .357 Magnum revolver. Just load .38 Short Colt brass with similar powder of 9mm with 125 gr bullets

@@GunSam Have you done a comparison of such loads with the 9, perchance? And thank you for responding. I appreciate your willingness to help quite a lot.

Ok..it's literally the most available.327 Federal ammo currently. It's everywhere, specifically the Hydrashok. Every person won't even need luck.

@@GunSam not in my area, I looked. I really like the .327 as CC.

I personally order all my ammo online. If you are in a place where that's not allowed, than of course your options are limited, but there was a time where .327 Federal was gone, nowhere online did it exist except for Buffalo Bore. Ammoseek shows a bunch of .327 Federal ammo available right now, the most that has been available in the past 4 years that I have owned a .327 Federal revolver. So your comment took me aback a bit, as it's backwards of my reality.

@@GunSam thanks for the heads-up

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tested 75 gr. Never heard of the 60 gr ones, must be new

@@GunSam yeah since shot show this year but it's advertised at 1800 fps

You know what, that is a genius idea. But please keep writing emails one won't be enough and we need more people riding them I will write one too. As a matter of fact anybody and everybody reading this, right now your next job the only job you have for the next foreseen future is to write an email or letter or phone call to Ruger explaining that you would love would like insist on having an LCR chambered in 5.7

Otherwise you will boycott Ruger and never ever buy a Ruger product again and we'll switch to only buying foreign-made Firearms preferably Chinese

Yes, also 32 magnum and 32 long and 32 short, but some can shoot 32 acp, but 32 acp and 32 short are too expensive and sometimes more than 32 long and 32 magnum

An important consideration these days. If you can't practice, it makes having a superior round less of an advantage.

If politics have tought you 1 thing since obummer was the criminal and chief is that you should own a reloading press and roll your own.

9mm always costs less than any centerfire ammo. Just how it is. To me it's not a problem as unlike 9mm, you really don't have to extensively vet your carry ammo. Sure you should buy 2 boxes and shoot one box to make sure the cases eject, the powder isn't so dirty it gunks anything up, and it shoots good for you. But it's not like the whole semi auto accepted procedure where you need to fire 200 rounds of your defensive hollow point ammo in your pistol to make sure it functions. So to me, the whole story taken into consideration, the cost of ammo issue is a non issue.

@@dude55ist Oh, sure. Blame the Pandemic and the world economy collapse on Obama! He's only been gone for five years of Trump's Enlightened Tax Cuts For Billionaires adding A TRILLION dollars per year to the deficit! And Obama was never even ACCUSED of any crimes..............................elsullo

I don't think it's the diameter size. It's probably velocity and bullet weight. The light weight and high velocity means it dumps greater energy shallower, meaning it will be more or less exploding into the MDF