💥.327 Federal Magnum BEATS 9mm 💥 Buffalo Bore Ammo!💣 Fun Test 

Yup, Nice "Belly gun".

You do a wonderful great job i say ignore the Fanboys.. Messiah Jesus..

Tbh, you should.

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glock fanboys are perpetually offended. I wouldn't worry about them.

Hey Sam you were talking about your sense of humour above. Was "This is my daily carry and any day I get to shoot my daily carry gun is a good day" said in jest? Because I'm sure I'm not the only viewer who could see a possibility that was just the opposite. Then again that is my twisted mind. Great film as always.

@@COIcultist Sounds like you're the only one assuming he meant at people, I just took it as he gets to shoot it in general ie at the range

@@evocati6523 Fair enough. I would have thought that he would practice quite regularly with his everyday carry, but I accept I could have been reading too much into his statement.

I have a Ruger LCR that is the lightest handgun I have. It will probably be banned now with the dims in charge again.

Lol they will call it an AR still because idiots - Assult Revolver

You're not sure.

Don't tell them it's practically full semiautomatic

@@texasbradley And its black!

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38 can be made to hit hard out of a short barrel. It’s a question of tuning bullet weight and powder load and powder burn rate; this is the rage with Federal Punch in other calibers. However 327 excels in only fitting revolvers designed to accept 40,000 psi of pressure - no risk of blowing up the barrel in and old 32 colt. Plus the 327 will chamber and fire predecessor 32 revolver rounds according to another vlogger. If the barrel can handle 40000 psi in 327 federal spec revolvers that’s another parameter to play with. And yes one more round helps.

What would you recommend for a recoil sensitive shooter, in a short barrel revolver, specifically a Ruger LCR or LCRX? 38 in target load wad cutters, 9mm with target load semi wad cutters, or 327 Federal Magnum but shoot non magnum 32? Do you recommend the shorter LCR or the longer X for better ballistics?

Agree. Underwood and Buffalo Bore make some hot 38 spl ammo; nice option for me in a heavier steel revolver like the SP101 and Taurus Executive. For reloaders, there are many more options.

Let’s see if GunSamRevolver weighs in, as I am no ballistics expert. I own and have carried 2” and 3” revolvers chambered in 38 spl (SW 642 2”), 357 (SP101 3”), 32H&R (Charter Arms Pro 3”) and 327 (LCRx 2”). For recoil SENSITIVE I recommend: 1. 642: 38 spl wadcutters. If Underwood is too hot, get Winchester, Federal, etc (see Lucky Gunner test data). 2. SP101: 38 +P Gold Dot, Win Ranger, Fed Punch, etc. 3. ÇA Pro; Hornady Critical Defense 80 gr 32 HR (maybe Doubletap 60gr?). 4. LCRx: Federal Hydrashok 327

Thanks. Yeah I rarely see .32 H&R Mag. I tested a few loads and found that my handload was a nice little .32 H&R Mag load. Just used max charge of Titegroup powder on an 85 gr XTP, gives a flat shooting 1,000 FPS round, no recoil.

Thanks! First up is upgrading some more video equipment. Then onto a few more interesting things I haven't done before.

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Thanks. Yeah I think with shipping these boxes were like, an order of 80 bucks lol. But it's worth it because I filmed it and can get some nice data.

Thanks. It's cold out there, but makes for nice camera quality.

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Thanks for watching. What really changed my mind was a head to head with my airlight .38 Special. Not only was the recoil the same, but one more round and way more point of aim than the .38 Special. Yes i'm a couple inches high at 7 yards, but the .38 shot about 6" low at 7 yards.

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Thank you. Take care.

Thanks. The 85 gr bullet does shoot well for me, I hand load the 85 gr XTP in .32 H&R Mag at around 1,000 FPS and it shoots flat, no recoil and point of aim.

@@GunSam That's "almost" what I do. I use 327 brass, 85 gr XTP, and the maximum load for a 32 H&R is 3.8 grains at 1003 FPS. Since I'm using a 327 case, I up that to 4.0 grains. Makes for a perfect target load whether you shoot factory 32 H&R or 327 Federal.

Who makes 60 grain XTPs in .32? Only options I've found below 85 are cast, and only option I found reliably available (at least before the toilet paper apocalypse) had been 100 grain.

@@Rowrin Hornady. 311 diameter

I even have 50 grain Leigh defense same .311 diameter

@@carlosreyes6448 Thanks. Just realized I actually have a few boxes of factory 32 acp loaded with the 60gr xtp. It looks like Hornady recently discontinued selling the individual bullet due to a lack of interest and only sells it in manufactured ammo now.

Oh really 🤔, I didn't know that, what ashame. Its an excellent round. That i load for .32 long .32 h&r magnum. And of course in my .327 federal magnum. I also shoot it in my Henry lever action.

I have done a couple of tests like that, and I didn't see a huge difference in certain calibers. If I remember right the .38 Special got clogged and changed expansion a little, but 9mm did not. It's an interesting point, and I do still have some Critical Defense .327 Federal mag, maybe i'll use those.

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Thanks. My girlfriend actually called a local gun store looking for something, and she mentioned me to the lady working there. I was like, no one is going to know me because in a state of 10 million and having 24,000 subs, there's only a few hundred subs in each state. Turns out the lady there did know of my channel lol. I was shocked at that.

@@GunSam its nuts i guess. Good information is harder to find than just information. The way that you run ammo and weapons through their paces shows the proof of viability. The aforementioned folks who wont even touch a revolver might have a change of heart if they saw what kind of potential they have instead of seeing just some old school chunk of steel...they just dont even know what they dont know.

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Would be nice if Ruger made the LCRx with the 3 inch barrel for the .327 Federal Magnum. I love my SP101 in .327 with it's 3 inch barrel but always hated the LCR and LCRx revolvers in .327 are purely snub nosed.

Thanks. Yeah, the people who love it want to see more, but the problem is the revolver guys are the 10% of gun carriers, and only 10% of them love .327 Mag lol. So it's a difficult sell.

@@GunSam True

I don't think it would over-penetrate though, I mean not through the intended target. But what makes this interesting is I think it would do better against a dangerous animal than some cartridges.

Thanks. I mean, 10 years ago I could shoot .22 handguns that far well, but not so much with center fire. Wasn't until 6 years ago when I got my Lee set and started reloading that this changed. I was so into reloading, wanted to load more than I shot but I kept getting to the point where I had 1,000+ rounds of .38 Special and it was too much to keep around, so I would start shooting at long range with the hand loads just for fun, after that I somehow just got the feel of long range center fire handgun. I cannot explain what it took to get better VS rim fire, I just think it was a matter of getting used to recoil to the point where there was 0% fear of the recoil.

@@GunSam you should change your handle to GUN SAM REVOLVER PERFECTIONADO.LOL

Thanks.

Thanks for watching!

Your consistency is much appreciated.

Thanks. I was aiming right on the target at 50 yards with the 9mm.

What's important is that people can still get .327 Mag ammo if they try hard enough. You don't need to practice too much being a revolver and all, no malfunction drills etc.

@@GunSam very true on finding ammo still. Commo ammo is gone.

2000 is even possible with some .357 Magnum loads.

I will try, but the ammo is a bit limited.

They might even be able to squeeze in more if done right.

Michigan

@@GunSam I didn’t think NY when you said daily carry.

@@jma3586 No, I am filming this in Central Park! lol

Even if they just sent some ammo. I rarely have anything bad to say about their ammo.

I agree with all you said. I have long ago seen how high capacity in a gun requires a holstered gun, but a pocket gun up to 6 or 7 rounds carries fine. In that category all you have basically is .380 ACP, Diamondback 9mm's and J-frame sized snubs. Comparing all of those with the 9mm going to jam every 2nd shot, the .380 underpowered and jamming, and the .327 with near as much power as a short barrel .357 Magnum load, 6 for sure....it makes sense why the .327 wins.

my sig p365 12+1 fits in my pocket with no problems at all barely even notice it, 15 rnd back up mag in the other pocket. gun runs and works great so i am happy having double the capacity. but im glad you are happy as well, love revolvers to dont get me wrong. we should all carry what we like and are proficient with not what some internet trolls would tell you that you have to carry.

I found this ammo recently. Just saying.

I paid 15 dollars for 50 round nose 9mm at rural king today. I have not seen 327 federal in along time. If you paid internet prices good luck trying stickup on ammo you must a lot more money than us poor people.

The LCR is pretty good. I mean, it's trigger is lighter than a normal revolver, and a different system on how it pulls, so most people can shoot one well even if they don't have revolver skills.

@@GunSam tnx👍

A friend of mine had a lot in 9mm I'm not sure which loads he had in it but the recoil was surprisingly painful and not a fun gun to shoot at all. In a Ruger sp 101it would be a lot more entertaining. I'm not recoil why I have and shoot a 475 Linebaugh with 425gr bullets for fun

Looking it up after the fact, it does seem to do well, a good 600 FPS gain.

@@GunSam woah that’s a huge gain!!

My Henry shoots the 100 grain American Eagle rounds @ 2000 fps, they're right around 1500 out of my 5 1/2" Single Seven.

I had a single seven, 4 5/8", the 100 gr. .327mag felt/recoil almost like a .357. when and if ammo comes back on the shelves, try .32 S&W long, just a little more kick than a .22. gun and ammo are great for target shooting.

Any trouble with cartridge clearance in that loading gate? I know Ruger had issues with the Single Seven recently with that.

@@exothermal.sprocket I had the single seven 3 years ago, never had problems with it.

@@nazdagg8633 Well good. My local gun shop guy explained the notch relief where the gate swings out of wasn't shaped or relieved quite right on earlier models and would prevent people from getting cases in and out of the chambers. Probably an issue Ruger quickly dealt with. Be nice to find a Blackhawk with 8 rounds .327.

I had the single 7 with a 5.5inch barrel it was the 2nd run of them so most of the bugs were worked out. I wish I'd known about the buffalo bore that sounds like a fun round. I ended up selling mine cause it was so amazingly loud. I did enjoy it in a lot of ways but the noise bugged me

The recoil is a lot less than typical .357 Magnum loads in a comparable snub. It's about like a .38+P in an ultralight 14 oz J-frame, out of the 17 oz LCR .327.

I'd say .327 Federal has about 20% less felt recoil over a .357 when comparing factory ammunition to each other. So a 115gr or 100gr .327 from Speer would have less than a 125gr .357 would. Hotter than a .38 +P but not quite as harsh as factory .357, so it has some serious ups especially in short barrels.

Good luck finding one

I have that on my list of ammo to buy!

If you can borrow or buy ( out of stock) a LCR 9MM it would be interesting to preform the same test.

Well we can agree to disagree. Because shooting gel is like a human thoracic cavity? By being jelly, with no hardness at all? LOL. Denim, meat and hard fiberboard I have full confidence in 1,000 times more than unrealistic jelly. I have to use water jugs to stop a bullet.

Nice lol. I haven't had the .327 Gold Dot in awhile, but I did test some and it was so hot the cases stuck in my chambers. Very powerful stuff.

I have never fired a .327 Mag without ear plugs, but I would imagine the sound might be somewhere between .38+P and .357 Mag. To me, the whole permanent hearing damage is not a concern as what is more important is the ability to stop a threat. Like, sure I could carry a .380 ACP or whatever, shoot an attacker, no effect, then I die and that saved my hearing, VS stopping the threat and being alive with some hearing damage. I mean, to me I just don't spend much tome thinking about it, if it happens it happens. But as far as saving your life goes, audio exclusion will kick in anyways, so sound won't change your performance in the moment. If you have damage later, so be it.

@@NicholsonDR Yes and .357 already killed some ears!

@@GunSam The problem isnt only hearing loss afterwards. Its also blast trauma and disorientation within a gun fight. So the noise can negatively influence your defence abilitys and therfore your survival.

Probably like, 8 months ago. It was around the time I started shooting it more and realizing that I could shoot it faster than .38 Special, and be more accurate at the same time.

@@GunSam do you carry the 327? Or do you carry 32 h&r Magnum?

@@BJWeed1 In it right now is the 100 gr Buffalo Bore .32 H&R Mag+P, which is the same load as this .327 Mag load, but I plan to put the .327's in it. I was getting like 10 ft lbs more energy with the .327 over the .32 H&R+P. But again, it's basically the same load.

@@GunSam Done any handloading in the .327?

@@exothermal.sprocket I have not with the actual .327 Federal Mag, but I have reloaded .32 S&W Long and .32 H&R Mag. I did find the perfect load for it, in my opinion: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rUX_3myCQ2c.html

Well, with this ammo it was the same cost. In normal ammo times for practice ammo, the .327 is about twice the price of 9mm. With defensive ammo, again the cost is the same per box. The biggest issue right now is that because there is so much 9mm variety, that there is always 9mm somewhere being produced. With .327 Federal this is not the case, it ceases production for long periods of time.

Depends on the load. A lot of times +P doesn't really make a huge difference, as I have seen some standard pressure more powerful than some +P. But in general, a standard pressure might have 40 ft lbs less energy in a 3.25" barrel. So, it wouldn't change significantly.

That's how most people watch videos. Plenty of gun guys I love watching, even if they shoot Glocks and whatnot, but sometimes they do AR videos ad i'm like, eh, AR videos all look the same to me so I don't usually watch.

Heck no, it’s smaller and will fall thru

@@moderatemexicanamericanpat4904 Thanks!

Than how did I just buy the ammo I tested here? Bought it like 3 weeks ago and it's still available.

Ballistics by the inch has good info, but it's not the tell all as they use barrels that are test barrels for most of their .327 Mag testing. The rifle, that is the rifle when it comes to .327 Federal Magnum is the Henry Big Boy rifle. That has a 20" barrel. So, I found someone who chronographed a round of ammo I chronographed in this 1.875" snub, and that is the 130 gr Buffalo Bore Outdoorsman ammo. In my snub I averaged 1,217 FPS. In that 20" Henry rifle, same ammo, they got 1,607 FPS. So yes, that rifle did gain 390 FPS and 318 ft lbs, but it's not quite the jump as one might get in .357 Magnum. If you take a comparable cartridge, the Buffalo Bore 180 gr Outdoorsman, they show in an 18" barrel Marlin 1894 getting 1,851 FPS/1,369 ft lbs. The closest they got to a snub is 3" S&W J-frame is showing 1,302 FPS/677 ft lbs. So, to run down, the .327 Federal separated by 18" of barrel gained 318 ft lbs energy. The .357 Mag separated by only 15" of barrel gained 692 ft lbs energy. So, I still stand by my claim that you really don't gain from a longer barrel, I mean you technically do, but it's more in line with what you might gain with any other ordinary pistol cartridge, not what you gain with a true magnum like .357 or .44 Magnum.

Good luck finding 327 federal ammo.

@@nickfoster8007 I just bought mine on Buffalo Bore's website. One might say well "practice ammo", but honestly if someone really really wanted to go the LCR route and had the time and money, they could get LCR's in both .327 and .357 Mag, and practice with the .357 Mag with appropriate ammo to match the felt recoil of the .327 Mag, which would essentially be a warm .38+P in the .357 revolver.

Well, yes and no. One might say you need to reload a lot to practice a lot....but two things; one, the LCR and the .327 are both really accurate and low recoil, so "practice" honestly is not quite as imperative as either a semi auto where you might need to clear jams, or a .357 Mag revolver where you really need to train for recoil control. And two, you don't need to test revolver rounds for reliability per say. I mean, yes you need to know you can handle them and they will extract fine, but honestly you can buy one box of Buffalo Bore ammo and test a few rounds and carry the rest. With a semi auto you legitimately need to get at least a 50 round box of that ammo, some say 200 rounds....I say 50 is fine, and run a couple mags to make sure it functions.

Maybe, but once in awhile I have to use different bologna, wrap it myself VS already packed. It just seems like a lot of trouble.

Only the local racoon population understand the meat reduction process. Remember a law of physics... the baloney pack that seems to fly back at Gun Sam, is showing how much inertia was developed. A round that has a small hole in the meat, yet starts to expand later may be more lethal as the petals expand further into the body cavity, hitting a heart or lungs..Modern ammo design has made the 9mm a lethal round compared to the old ball 9mm used by armies... The 327 fed mag was designed for on thing... short barrel revolvers. Nobody wants to be shot by either, as the two zombies proved.

@@petergrant9259 those raccoons are real lab experts when it comes to food!

Buffalo Bore typically shows multiple real world guns, and specific velocity "rating" on those guns. So when I can, I mention a rated velocity as stated for a certain gun. Like often their .38 Special ammo will show a 1.875" test barrel as one of them, so when I mention rated velocity and if i'm using that gun, I will say "it's rated at...." and mention the gun. I don't think the .327 Federal had any barrel lengths listed.

I looked and Buffalo bore does list 1,315 FPS in a Ruger SP101 3".

Yeah I just looked myself and I see it's not there anymore. But you can look at ballistics by the inch and also find other places they give you rifle and carbine velocity. It's an impressive little round. Love your work man.

I've yet to chrono any BB out of my Henry but I did chrono the American Eagle 100 grain load and got right at 2,000 fps with that stuff. 1,500 fps and sticky extraction from my Single Seven 5 1/2".