(338) Southern Steel Prison Lock Raked, Picked Open and Gutted

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@1955thekeeper 10 лет назад

I work as a Locksmith in a prison in Arkansas. The pings on the back side of the lock are there to prevent the screws from backing out from the constant slamming of the cell doors or of the gates that some of these locks are mounted on. The inertia of these massively heavy doors can transmit enough impact against the guts of this kind of lock that it will back the screws out which would cause the lock to fail.

@debug9424 7 лет назад

Could locktite blue be used instead?

@jrmbayne 6 лет назад

Andy Anderson I figured it was a tamper seal

@thevacuumtubejunky9774 6 лет назад

Andy Anderson: Sounds like an interesting and challenging career.

@EndingTimes0 6 лет назад

why would the size of the door matter? it's the inertia of the screw itself that would back it out...

@gullreefclub 5 лет назад

I was just going to make the same comment about the peening of the screws on the back of the lock. As for the question about loc-tite, yes it could be but loc-tite and locksmiths don’t tend to go together especially if old school. As for peening and tamper marks scribe makes are normally preferred for that and if truly worried about tampering then a tamper paint/sealant maybe preferably because of its higher visibility.

@spodule6000 9 лет назад

Thanks for the tip Bill, feels so good to have the fresh air on my face once again!

@nextlifeonearth 8 лет назад

If an American prisoner steals a key he makes a shiv out of it. They have their priorities :P

@shootit 8 лет назад

Funny cause it's true

@dmd1344 6 лет назад

CapnTates No they use scalpels now

@ericosborn2874 9 лет назад

I didn't expect a jail lock to b unpickable but f--ck me!!!

@tarassu 9 лет назад

stay safe stay legal? - too late for that if you are in a prison :)

@darek4488 8 лет назад

+Arnis Tarassu Are you implying that in prison everything is legal?

@tarassu 8 лет назад

Noup. Being in prison is not safe and also not legal. At least there is no legal way to get in prison (excl working there).

@darek4488 8 лет назад

Arnis Tarassu Being in prison is not legal? WTF? It's the law that gets you there.

@tarassu 8 лет назад

+darek4488 yes... but you have to break the law to get there :d

@jexirefmagician 8 лет назад

+Arnis Tarassu not in murica, u can just be black and it's done

@Thezaccazzac 9 лет назад

Prison Lock *no security pins* + master wafers only the best for our prison...

@derrickreeves2657 8 лет назад

Hey bill , just wanted to inform you that that is called staking not penning. the intent of staking is not to prevent removal but to keep the screw from backing out under use, kind of like a self locking nut.

@christianjohnsen105 9 лет назад

why are your videos so interesting??? been watching for about2 hours now c:

@bosnianbill 6 лет назад

I don't know but sure appreciate it! 😋

@HunterShows 8 лет назад

Imagine being locked in a cell...protected by a master lock. If only you had something, anything, to tease it with.

@altim4t3 8 лет назад

The vibration the water creates in the pipes when you flush the cell toilet will shred the lock

@bambola8881 8 лет назад

Hi Bill, when I worked at P.G. County Jail, the big key was for the feeding slot.

@stratsteveo106 6 лет назад

Prince Georgia?

@HifiCentret 8 лет назад

Seems like it was build for heavy use. Bet the steel balls significantly reduces wear on both lock and keys. I don't believe the screws were punched to never be removed. Rather they were punched to make sure they didn't work their way by themselves during use. A bit of Loctite would have the same effect tough but a couple of punches may have their advantages.

@valshaped 7 лет назад

HifiCentret I'd say the key benefit would be not having to buy locktite

@BronxLockPicker60Rodriguez 5 лет назад

This was the good ole days, now it's all about bike locks! What a shame Bill !

@WarriorofCathar 8 лет назад

7:10 ; Thats what she said.

@jacobmiller9322 8 лет назад

I work in a juvenile corrections facility. We have the giant key with "San Antonio" on it as well. It opens an access door to turn off water to the cells in the event of someone flooding.

@Warutteri 9 лет назад

Nice to know that US prisoners are so securely locked up :D You guys have some of the worlds most brutal prisons and prisoners (many come out worse than they go in) and it seems that the prison industry doesn't even care enough to lock them up properly, pretty shocking... Can't imagine that the same could happen here in Finland, especially when talking about murderers and other violent offenders. We do have somewhat tighter regulations in almost every industry and even our home locks are mostly Abloy Protec locks (almost all locks have been upgraded to this in the last 10 years partly because the insurance companies recommend [or demand] it) so we have a bit higher standards on what constitutes a secure and good lock :)

@smeado3533 7 лет назад

Good for you guys. I've never heard of anyone picking a lock at a US prison or even a burglar picking a lock so maybe you guys are a little paranoid.

@Kyle-pz7os 7 лет назад

Smeado we could probably make a youtube channel just on things you haven't heard.

@samgamgee3622 7 лет назад

I assume the locks are on the outside of the doors where the prisoners don't have any access to them. (If they were on the inside then prisoners would have all day long to mess around with them)

@taiwanluthiers 11 месяцев назад

I assume the master key function is more for access control and institutional needs. If anything these jail locks are easier to pick because the keys are so large, thicker metal, etc. meaning your lock pick can be bigger and stronger, not to mention the parts are larger which is much easier to mess with. Except nobody in jail is going to have a lock pick as institutional controls means such things are hard to come by. Like those lever locks are really easy to pick if you have the correct tools.

@Warutteri 11 месяцев назад

@@taiwanluthiersYou can make a passable basic lock pick and a turning tool from two paperclips (I know, I've done it, and used them successfully to pick simple locks)... Or any flat piece of metal with a little time and patience to grind it against the floor of your cell to achieve the desired shape for a pick, and for a turning tool you just need to bend a thin piece of flat metal, super simple stuff. When you're in prison all you have is time, so some of that maybe being slightly time consuming isn't a big issue. Prisoners have much bigger and harder to hide contraband in their cells all the time...

@spacepirateivynova 8 лет назад

Hey... rake picking, completely valid option. If you have a buddy who locked his keys away somehow, and you need to get in, this is the method I go with 9 times out of 10.

@samlomaglio8926 5 лет назад

@kentsugden6865 3 года назад

This lock doesn't actually have master wafers in it. I know this is an old video, but maybe someone will be interested. Locks that see commercial use should have balanced pin stacks, e.g. Best A format has a stack height of 23 in each chamber. This consists of three pins whose lengths sum to 23 times the depth of a single key cut. Key pins+control pins+driver pins. In the prison lock in the video, the key pins consist of the ball bearings plus the pins above them. As I think Bill mentioned, the ball bearings are intended to reduce pin and key wear. In many pinning kits for multi-shearline locks, certain pin lengths are designated as security pins e.g. all the 6's, 8's, and 10's, and key pins 5-9 have spool elements

@bosnianbill 11 лет назад

Easier said than done, but I'm going to try when I get home. We'll also need to reverse the image for the opposite curve on top. I don't have a scanner tho, they are still being invented - due out later this year. I'm on the waiting list tho...;)

@LNC4P 8 лет назад

Geez, with all that mastering you might as well give those prisoners a couple of paper clips.

@Steel-Pinnings 8 лет назад

That and when Bill took it apart the #s3,4,&5 were at the shear line already so only #1&2 needed picking and 2 only a tickle. No wonder the Bogota worked. lol

@bosnianbill 11 лет назад

Yeah, I now have FOUR of them on my key ring PLUS the "Tomahawk" key. I can't WAIT to go through airport security tomorrow!

@ThomasRonnberg 6 лет назад

when i first started watching your channel i never thought the rake be such an effective tool for lockpicking.

@kiltedthistle 6 лет назад

If I'm locked up I want Bill with me lol

@AlbertaPL 7 лет назад

The mastering is to allow for different levels of keys. Normal Keys for normal operations Master keys for a supervisor perhaps GrandMaster Key for emergencies ie Riot FYI

@mendaliv 7 лет назад

Right. Normal probably has access levels split by building area and lock category. Probably one normal key for a single row of cells in a cell block, one normal key for the in/out doors for a cell block, one normal key for maintenance panels and storage closets in a small area. Master key probably is stuff like all the cell doors in a single block, all the in/out doors in a building, or all the maintenance panels or closets in an area. And grandmaster typically stands in for several master keys. I had a relative work in a university's locksmithing office some years ago. They even had great grandmaster keys in some buildings. Even in those, though, the great grandmaster didn't operate any exterior doors.

@bosnianbill 11 лет назад

Remain scared of prison. I heard that in Denmark they use Assa Combi locks... BIG ones.

@bosnianbill 11 лет назад

When you said "print", I remembered the new 3D printer sitting in the lab. I wonder...

@leetewksbury8726 9 лет назад

You should sell a base kit that comes with picks and 3 different locks to get people started, or a build your own lock kit so people can mix and match security pins for practice

@VicariousReality7 10 лет назад

So weirdly... satisfying... to watch all these picking videos

@Steel-Pinnings 8 лет назад

So I am probably just blowing wind... but can't you contact brinks as the manufacturer of the lock? To get a blank key?

@stevewalker7822 8 лет назад

Nice job, Bill. Over the years I've collected older safe locks for my collection. Maybe 1 day I'll be able to get 1 for my collection.

@Mtraxxadventures 10 лет назад

It looks like that lock was set up to be on a master key, a sub master key and a normal key. Thats probably why there were so many pins in the lock.

@NicholasAarons 9 лет назад

Very Cool Picking Bill Great Work. Nick.

@douro20 9 лет назад

There is actually nothing to prevent other manufacturers from making blanks for these locks other than patents...

@TheDoctorAlf 7 лет назад

Just seeing this. Is that a USAF O-2 at the end?

@blackhawks81H 5 лет назад

I know this is an ooollllldd video. But man, those Folger Adams keys bring back memories... Every prison guard in America is all too familiar with those. And the years of back pain that you end up with after carrying 20+ of the fuckers at once for 80 percent of your shift for 30 years... You can't really appreciate how huge they are til you've held one. Heavy Bastards too. BosnianBill must be a fairly large handed gentleman, because I'm telling you. Those keys are a lot bigger in person than it appears to be from this video. Size of an elephants kurac. LoLović

@paulsolfelt8452 7 лет назад

you will never pick your way out of a jail cell here as you can't access the lock in the first place!

@bcbandit123 10 лет назад

Rune Nilssen asked Why are the locks so big, Well since it's a Mortise style Screw in lock the side that has a "Screw" pin holding the mortise can be a bigger/deeper screw to hold the lock form being turned out, How many times have you seen a 7-11 or some other store with the lockset half turned because the lock pin worked lose be 1 to 1/2 turns.. Enjoy..

@marcodanilo3570 2 года назад

You are the best..i would have your hability sigh...now i trying open a DOM lock..for now i defeated..sigh

@buildtools9464 8 лет назад

since I started watching your videos, I am more and more worried about my front door locks being unsafe hehe. I always thought that 21st century locks were now a lot more sophisticated and picking them would be near impossible...but it shocks me that it's so easy to get in. when are we going to replace this simple pin design to something more complex that the greatest minds in the world can make instead of using these simple mechanisms? is it because it's cheaper to use this design? why don't front door locks be more secure? my life is on the line here.....I lock three doors when I go to bed, my front door, my entrance stair door and my bedroom door.....and I had a look at them, they are all really easy to get in....

@BCseanwilliams 10 лет назад

Another question - for anyone - my 5pin folger adam has the same keyway as the no-name one you picked - what is the model number of the key blanks? Is there a number, keyway designation, or something that will help me search for the correct blank? Any help would be great fellahs. Cheers from Vancouver :)

@michaelmendillo4614 6 лет назад

We don't want to mention any names,,,,,but it rhymes with,, Robert Rangley, from Utica, NY,,,lol ,, 😁

@FuddButter 8 лет назад

I have a bunch of those large Paracentric keys sitting on my desk. Plus a pile of the locks too! If you want any info, send me a message, pitty i am in a different country, otherwise i'd be able to show you some more of the SS gear.

@alexfo7o 8 лет назад

That was embarrassing how easily that screw came out!

@tomaszstarling 9 лет назад

Romundo zio

@the_rahn 8 лет назад

hey, a question: what are those ball bearings at the bottom of each pin for? also, when you say "for this lock I am gonna use (standard hook / half diamond / etc)" could you explain why you chose that one over the rest? thanks :D

@the_rahn 7 лет назад

I had completely forgotten I had posted this question, but hey, thanks for the explanation :D

@Riyame 11 лет назад

Check out this video for a detailed breakdown of the lever locks. watch?v=kYC-g0GhPxk

@stratsteveo106 5 лет назад

Pretty wild that its set up for a grand master key system, it must of been a pain in the ass pinning all those locks for the jail with all the different master wafers. I know when I do it I gotta pay very close attention to my charts or the lock won't work

@ve2zzz 4 года назад

...Pleeeaasse.. Pin the unpinned losk so one key will open the operating shealine and the other, the master shearline.

@printingwithlue4310 5 лет назад

Z tool? I thought it was called a tension wrench....🤔

@killahjeep 8 лет назад

this type lock arent used on cells. typically they use a folger adams key to drop a gate that blocks a door bar port in the air cylinder controls. it trips a mechanism then releases a door.

@thomasbrooklyn1820 7 лет назад

What are the ball bearings for?

@firesurfer 3 года назад

Anti-drill.

@lknanml 8 лет назад

LOL. Chopping up wood or something. Aside from what I am learning from you the off hand comments bust me up every time.

@diazaman420 11 лет назад

Bill I've got a great idea for the extra blank....bump key, anyone? gotta be worth a try...I'm not proud of this but I've bin in more jails and prisons then I've got fingers...and toes... including the new American "Pod" style...and I have to say I've never seen these "Moguls"...however, they where in a "Mental" Facility....that I "attended" whilst, blowing bubbles in my orange juice...lol ....they are all Adams, lever type...and I've seen guys make copies, by sight!even plastic keys.in the 80's

@Riyame 11 лет назад

Ha, that was a very nice package. Thank you to the generous donor. The SS and Folger Adams moguls have the same keyway. Peening the screws was probably just to prevent them from being knocked loose by the constant slamming of heavy doors. I actually have a SS lever blank that has some of the sprue left on it,

@hommie789 6 лет назад

Bill I know this video is older but on the top of this core there is a strip right over the top of the bible, couldn't you just slide that back to reveal the springs and pins/wafers that way? I believe that is there to make rekeying easier and faster but could be wrong. Also just an FYI 16mm and 5/8 are almost the same size just one was a spark plug wrench and the other a normal socket. They cross like 13mm to 1/2" ans 14mm to 9/16th" 19mm to 3/4" 22mm to 7/8th"

@chromatic91 9 лет назад

That holder really should be attatched to something, it looks like its about to fall over when you work your locks!

@BCseanwilliams 10 лет назад

Hi Bill, Do you know what the diameter of the pins for those moguls is? I just picked up a Folger Adam one that looks like the no-name you just picked. I wanted to make some security pins using wire stock but don't have a micrometer. Anyone know the diameter? Thanks for another great video. Cheers from Vancouver

@OneOfDisease 8 лет назад

like all things Government these places are built by the lowest bidder, and are probably designed to be easily re-keyed in the event that an inmate lifts a key off an officer.

@ratataran 5 лет назад

Lol, very doubtful

@killahjeep 8 лет назад

my facioity uses southern steel (SS), Folger adams (FA), Medeco, anerican lock (padlocks)

@michaellange6598 3 года назад

I might have a way to mastre-key paracentric leaf lock

@DylzillaHobbzilla 6 лет назад

Anyone know the name of the Raimundo pick he used to first open it?

@mariajosearismendi8567 8 лет назад

What if you cut the key and weld it to use it on the other lock? Is not prety but it will work

@GordonWlocksport 6 лет назад

Wow.. those locks are stunning! I’m collecting rim cylinders.. one of these would go great in my collection! 😜

@holyhelga 6 лет назад

i think the metric system is used mosr commonly in the world then your system

@RookieLock 5 лет назад

Man I want a Mogul Cylinder soo bad.. What a great collectors item/conversation piece !

@bosnianbill 5 лет назад

Every once in a while you can find one for sale on eBay, but expect to pay a pretty penny for it.

@ericday604 11 лет назад

Thanks for the heads up on the book, on a book fiend and it looks very informative. Now I kinda feel dumb for asking the second part of my question, didn't think it through well. Thanks again for all the time and info. Also mresurm thanks for the link excellent description on the lock! Pretty simple thing.

@asdrty258 2 года назад

Stay legal 7 billions Not needed locks enough at all

@gerardwalker564 7 лет назад

easy to stop raking or bumping put a pin in forth chamber at shear line. the only pin that way. then make last pin a number 1 and 3rd pin number 1 and so on. so that's a number 1-then 1pin at line 1-5-1 .high low high low high. bump key pushes 4th pin above line no entry.

@dmd1344 6 лет назад

Southern Steel and Folger Adams now merged

@xXxM4A1xXx08 9 лет назад

It is funy because RR Brink is actually located about a mile if that from me, I have always wondered what they make in that building

@mashiroikaze 9 лет назад

Wow... sad pinning, but you've got some very cool followers to send you those locks.

@RobCrawford23 11 лет назад

The prison I was (working) in last week uses good old fashioned lever locks. The padlocks where a strange mixture of Chubb Battleships, Ruko 2 (not flexcore) and masterlock (yes that masterlock)

@RobCrawford23 11 лет назад

I should have said UK (or Belfast to be exact)

@aliceinmadseason2319 6 лет назад

I had to do a slight bit of time in a wonderful west Virginia jail and i can honestly say i never payed any attention to the cell locks or any other locks there. Because even if you pop one, you got like 20 more ahead of you and by then youll be slammed by several c.o's. I ate my shit on a shingle like a good boy and got out several months later

@bosnianbill 6 лет назад

That sounds like the best option! Hey, be grateful. My wife won't make SOS for me anymore, saying it is "bad for you". I may have to pop over to WV for a decent meal.🙄

@RAYTHEONGAMING 9 лет назад

Bill where did you get that tray for rekeying? I want one !

@Zach.Nelson 9 лет назад

I always wondered how master keys worked... Now I know if a lock supports that its a weakness.

@scottfoster2487 6 лет назад

Mold a key then machine your own metal blank from the platic castining,

@blueoval250 8 лет назад

I've seen a lot of those keys like the big one. Southern Folger makes them like that. They have very deep cuts in them doesn't even look a key.

@BeatsFromDP 7 лет назад

How would one acquire one of these? I haven't seen any on ebay...

@StevenBach1 7 лет назад

Just search prison locks. I found 2, they aren't cheap though.

@BeatsFromDP 7 лет назад

Steven Bach thanks but I did that and I know the two you're talking about. I just want the lock, not the stuff attached to them. That's why they're more expensive.

@tonymauldenjr2722 5 лет назад

What's the most common pick you use ?

@fritzfromswitzerland 6 лет назад

How can i stay legal if i learn this ???

@stratsteveo106 6 лет назад

That is a big ass mortis cylinder

@happynotnormal 11 лет назад

I suppose they're not too worried about prisoners bypassing the actual locking mechanism.

@spaid1988 8 лет назад

hey can i get a link to where u were showing that big plastic example of a lock im trying to explain how security pins feel to a friend

@spaid1988 8 лет назад

You the man ty

@mgt00656 10 лет назад

do a vid on handcuffs

@ratataran 5 лет назад

That's too easy. Check out lockpickinglawyer's video about the cop gun lock. It uses a lockpick key, and he opens that in about 1 second.

@kennethdangelo5777 8 лет назад

Lol the jails I've been in always had an A in the big key!!

@scottradwanski3804 8 лет назад

I have old lock that takes skeleton key but I can't get it open. if you have any suggestions on how to open it

@spaid1988 8 лет назад

ace hardware carry 2 skelly masters

@JustinTheAvgGamer 8 лет назад

So you would be better off with an expensive pad lock ?

@MMAteenager 7 лет назад

JustinTheAvgGamer these are designed the be durable, not unpickable. No one is going to pick themselves free. But an upset inmate could be kicking on his door half the day.

@rsnilssen 11 лет назад

whats the reasoning behind the huge size of these prisondoor locks?

@JAMESPAULS-mo1tt 9 лет назад

Look for one Lock

@Hyginx 8 лет назад

Any idea where I can get one of these?

@garmack12 10 лет назад

i thought prisons would use locks with id cards or figerprints

@o2Hayden 9 лет назад

garmack12 ...

@Abs0lutelyBella 8 лет назад

There's no way in hell that's a 16 MM socket. a 16 is huge...I'm pretty sure that's a 9.

@james201212 8 лет назад

+Simply Bella (5/8)*25.4=15.875 mm, so yeah 16mm

@samnorman2307 8 лет назад

+Simply Bella strangely enough a 16mm socket is 16mm, on the inside. the outside thickness depends on the brand and quality

@mohameddraz4688 11 лет назад

love it bill

@roncalabrese305 7 лет назад

salesmen

@dementedbowine8681 6 лет назад

i take it this isent the lock thats ment to keep the honest guy honest

@treffryraxter 10 лет назад

bill, after watching your videos I am really debating getting a pick set of my own. I have always thought about it but come payday dads going shopping (hmm I guess the debate is over haha)

@armored5082 10 лет назад

lol i went through exactly the same process i'm currently waiting for them in the mail

@mcdowellbri 10 лет назад

im just getting started on this kind of stuff, but does it make any sense at all to have split top pins? unless that was the only way to get it that heavily mastered, which still seems like a horrible idea on a lock in a jail.

@thalivenom4972 10 лет назад

its so more then one key will work in the lock. he talks about that in the end.. look up master wafers. :)

@mcdowellbri 10 лет назад

Yea but it's mastered above Tue headline never seen or even heard of that

@ericday604 11 лет назад

Those locks are ridiculous. Thank you to who ever sent them, very kind of you to share with all of us. Bill do you happen to have a picture of the lock that the large key goes to? Also I just can't believe they master those locks up like that, shouldn't they know better?

@ratataran 5 лет назад

Not really. Prisoners aren't gonna have access anyway. They'll lockpick right back into a cell if they do.