flash positive charged water over a negatively charged aluminum wire. when they meet, they should create 100% hho with aluminium oxide as a byproduct, which can be heated back into aluminium.
If the HHO is fed into the intake BEFORE the airflow meter; the flow meter is metering out fuel for a gas mixture that already contains fuel (H2). Feed your HHO into the system AFTER the airflow meter just for a start. There are other changed engine parameters that need to be tuned for too.
The map and maf sensors have to stay in a proper parameter. Instead of going through different resistors to find that one for your car just put on a large resistor with a potentiometer on it and adjust the potentiometer until it works the parameters your need. That's the solution.
@@shaneoneill2254 The map and maf sensors have to stay in a proper parameter. Instead of going through different resistors to find that one for your car just put on a large resistor with a potentiometer on it and adjust the potentiometer until it works the parameters of your need. That's the solution.
I spent 3 years doing all kinds of experiments with hho, I even used Peltier tablets to cool the water, the Idea to know the consumption and use the scanner to know the injection time.
What you should of done was construct electrical leads on each corner. That way you would reduced the electrical resistance of corrosion resistance metal plates. This would increase efficiency and reduce the heat in the HHO generator Sir. Hope you keep that in mind when you build another unit of want to upgrade what you made by modifying just a few plates. Also, you need to tweak the car system electronics to take advantage of the OxyHydrogen gas. JOB well done DIYer. v
Voltage should be around 1.7 VDC per cell, target amperage should be .25 amps per square inch per cell. Use cross hatch pattern. HHO implodes during ignition. Water fog injection is needed to emulate slower burning fuel such as gasoline.
Incorrect! The reason the graphite cell was shedding was because he used way to many volts with the Urea electrolyte. It only needs 0.3v per neuteral cell! He could have had 18 cells with only 5.5V.
Did you add an efie, ? Otherwise the ecu detects more o2 and starts to compensate adding more fuel. I disconnected the fuel system and add a SU carby, the ecu only controls the spark and timing. I run a very lean fuel mix and add 180 watts of hho at 15 amps giving me 10 liter per 100 on a 3 liter pajero that used to do 15 liters per 100ks.
Had received a few suggestions. Hope it helps 1. Use a powerful flashback arrestors- preferably 2 one near the hho kit after the bubbler and 2nd near the air in-take. 2. HHO input after the MAF(Mass air flow) sensor and not before. p.s. these are just some suggestion that - do it on your own risk
Tests should be conducted on vehicles with 5th generation GNV systems. As they already have more advanced equipment that allows changes in the systems and can better accept HHO. As an admirer of the HHO system here in Brazil, I am interested in learning more about its applications and benefits.
put a positive wire onto a tap with water, so that when the water drops out it carries a positive charge. then put your negative terminal onto some aluminium wire (like used for welding) when the positive water meets the negative aluminium, they should flash into 100% HHO, the byproduct will be aluminium oxide, which you can reuse again by smelting it back into aluminium.
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Eu também tenho muito interesse nesse sistema, desejo troca de informações. I am also very interested in this system, I want to exchange information.
Este video nos anima a seguir haciendo lo que la mayoria de las empresas se niegan a reconocer. Felicitaciones por el video, seguramente seguiras desarrollamdo este sistema, y estaria bueno injectarlo directamente. Habra que reprogramar la computadora y agregar un compresor a diafragma para que sea capaz de generar 3,5 bares. Asi se puede usar el injector del auto y evitar explosiones.
🤫 Perforated metal sheet has a larger surface area, also if your gas can't get away from anode/cathode fast enough you're generation efficiency goes down as you're using less or the available surface area. The water heats up because stainless steel is very resistive, platinum is the perfect material to use but it's too damn expensive. Low voltage, high amps is apparently the way to go or high voltage low amps pulsed at quite low frequency to keep temperatures down. I wonder how well 240v at 50hz rectified would perform? With graphite plates the problem is that it's very sacrificial, no good as you seen, not for anode anyhow. We need to use an anode that can't be used for electroplating yet is very conductive and does not erode or corrode. If you think of a cost effective material that fits requirements please let me know 😊👍
Great, very informative experience except that oxy hydrogen (HHO) is dangerously explosive if the detonation is too strong!!! it is better to complete the assembly with a separation system to obtain the hydrogen AND the oxygen each on their own
@@CoincidenceTheorist Try to scare people!!! No, but am I dreaming or what? I'm just informing these people of a scientific truth that everyone should know It's YOU who SHOULD normally warn them and you don't do it, you mislead them!!! and it’s serious! Try doing this experiment on a small scale to convince them: Don't forget that I am here because I choose to be
If you want to separate hydrogen and oxygen you can do it with a powerful magnet or electromagnetic as they are opposite magnetic polarity... That's what I came to say but the health and safety guru distracted my attention 🤣🤣👍
If you look at the short term fuel trim through the OBD 2 you should see a drop as the ECU changes the injector pulse width, this way you can keep the ECU in the system and avoid a lean burn condition which is not good at high RPM. Also to mitigate intake explosion by fitting a flap valve after the Throttle body to release excess pressure from the intake plenum. I had Lexus LS400 V8 on LPG / Oxygas. Good effort.
I liked your experiment. I am planning to build one for my bike {350 cc carburetor bike}. I understand that graphite has a smaller lifespan to SS304. So I made my plates with 316L which is more anti- corrosion. I was thinking in the same lines as not to overload the alternator and considering a separate power supply. I intend to publish the results on my channel when I get to where you are presently. I was also thinking to install a wind and solar generator to charge the additional battery on my bike. One factor which I would like to consider is de-carbonization of the engine(while using HHO) over a time period which may result in better efficiency. Instead of HHO. What performance one can get of ICE if it pure hydrogen? This is my unanswered question so far. All said and done I respect you for the time and energy to make the video and sharing. Thank you. Bless you
Great build video. I am working on something very similar. Is there anyway for you to estimate how much gasoline was needed to replace the charge on the battery?
i can't compute it when it comes from the engine.. i don't have intentions to charge it from the alternator, instead it is solar or grid. it makes it cheaper that way
do you plan to carry out the experiment with HHO?? If you have the possibility I suggest you also test the separator system and share your thoughts with us Thank you so much
планируете ли вы провести эксперимент с HHO?? Если у вас есть возможность, я предлагаю вам также протестировать систему сепаратора и поделиться с нами своими мыслями. Большое спасибо (Я не знаю, возможен ли автоматический перевод!!!)
Legit test.....good job!! You need to put an extension piece between your oxygen sensor and the pipe. That way the oxygen sensor won't tell the computer to make the fuel mixture more rich. Heat i@the challenge on these HHO generators. Maybe try less electrolight.
for max efficiency try to get the voltage per cell down a lot. for example experiment with H2SO4 (battery acid ... yes ...) with this, the cell voltage goes down to about 1.3V per cell. also use verry thin plates since a thicker plate heats up more due to electrical resistance. now you'd think battery acid is too dangerous right? well, so is KoH, its just on the other side of the PH neutral.... also, you only need verry little of it, basically you set the max amps with the amount of acid. you can obviously use extra acid, but than you have to set max amps with the controller. also, like @rexford9019 said, limit amps to 0.25A per sqr inch. means larger plates ;) --> better efficiency
So ad a separate alternator? Room to make the amps. Where does this equals on price to drive. And what will happen to the battery. Still efficient. I will still say yes
After just a few minutes, such a cell boils and the insulation that needs to be used is PTFE. another disadvantage is that stainless steel plates corrode and the electrolyte turns into green soup. For many years I have had contact with devices from OWELD, which produces such devices intended as gas welding machines. a better solution for a car is an oxygen cylinder with a volume of 5 liters and a tube leading to the air intake. The engine has a great kick. You have to be careful not to overheat the pistons.
Yeah the graphite experiment is quite interesting, I wondered why they're not connected too in such a small build.... I actually used a neutral plate every 3 stainless plates in my builds.
take a look at the amps, if You put an additional batteries for HHO this could give You something. But in general You will have a hybrid car, petrol-electrical.
interesante demostración empírica, habrá una forma de aprovechar solo el hidrogeno? es decir tocar solo el gas que sale de los cátodos? Saludos desde Chile interesting empirical demonstration, will there be a way to use only hydrogen? That is, touch only the gas that comes out of the cathodes? Greetings from Chile
as you state the pressure gets too high over 850. Although you have the setup for better containment already. that case for one! you just need to get some metal containers of somekind for the other parts that hold the electrolite?
I Just though of something really interesting! What if you installed that potentiometer on the gas pedal somehow so that when you press it down the voltage will increase so you can possably get even better milge so the Oxyhydrogen is more abundant when accelorating? would be even better if there was some sort of storage tank and pressure gauge with some regulators etc. is this something that could make tis even better? or too much?
hydrogen production by increasing voltage (not preferred) but current is. the impact of increasing current takes a few seconds to produce more Hydrogen, may not align with throttle response, just thinking not done it yet to tell you for sue
the current is controlled by how much electrolyte you put into the mix, more electrolyte = more current. as the solution warms up it becomes more conductive and can run away on you. one way to help controlling heat is by useing six cells in series just like a car battery.
the big problem of that design is HEAT and low conversion of liquid into gas. i suggest that you study or find the right resonance frequency of water; ;if you found it you can now easily separate the hydrogen and oxygen very fast with 12volt and 3amp power supply only without additives'..and your reactor metal mush be like in a catalytic converter. hope this will help to your experiment
You need work the correct amount of water. When the acid level is at its peak. No more gas is made. Dont ask way. I dont know. You need keep a clean but very small amount of water running in the tank. Hope it helps mick Australia 🇦🇺
Possibly an EFFI filter to basically lie to the ecu about the air/fuel mix, and definitely PWM you will improve fuel efficiency with EFFI ice vid old bean
Well I'm just saying what I had to do for the transit, had to put an EFFI filter attached through back of the obd port, trouble was that before I put that on I thought I was getting better fuel consumption, in a way I was but at cost of more fuel input but that ceases when you add EFFI plus van is quieter faster on the uptake
@@albertnario4877thanks for your honesty! Since you are putting some additional load ( via the alternator) on your engine in order to produce the HHO on board, even neutral power or/and fuel economy “gain” means , that HHO is helping at least a little bit with improvement of combustion .
Jika 3 liter per menit dan pakai susunan plat paling efisien yaitu -nnnnn+nnnnn- di jarak antar play 0,5-0,8 milimeter itu pun perlu setidaknya 600 watt sebab di kondisi paling efisien pun cuma 0,1 liter per menit gas HHO tiap 20 watt. Jika 3 liter per menit accu dan alternator tidak akan cukup untuk memberi supply daya. Kalau andaikata kurang efisien perlu 850 watt maka hasil gas dengan susunan plat seperti di video mustahil 3 liter per menit, separuh sudah bagus sekali. Perlu accu yg di charge. Maka bukan mobil ternaga bensin saja tetapi, mobil tenaga bensin + accu. Pengujian jangka pendek bagus cuma apa menguntungkan jika dipakai jangka panjang?
Impresionante lo que produce en 4,2km no podra mucha producciin otros dicen que debe producir 100litro por minuto para ser eficiente en un coche cual sera la verdad Arg
Your plate sanding wasn't done right , that is done in a cross stich pattern by sanding diag top corner to bottom corner of the plate then do again corner top accross to bottom corner like an X pattern getting everything fully sanded both sides it makes a huge differance. Also port it in were the vacum on the brake master clinder connects faster delivery . Good Job well done
All this is cool, but in real world terms: how much percent fuel ecomony gain can I expect? What are theveffects on Hp and torque and...ENGINE LIFE?And is there anyone making a really SAFE And Honestly EFFECTIVE HHO Generator Kit?
Ino one side produces o2 the other side H2 qestion we only want H2 so isn't there anything we can do with the input voltage to just produce H2 ino it's DC 1.7 25A square 25mm but could we just excite H2 NOT the o2 all that power amps is wasted say 25A ÷ 2 12.5A get the gas we need half the input power we are exciting 2 element's to get 1 I might be way of here lol.
The battery for the HHO is separated from the engine.. it has its own energy provider.. it is cheaper to charge the battery than to use fuel.. sorry for the poor explanation on that.
I wonder if your car computer was able to compensate for the leaner exhaust by increasing the fuel being injected. That may be why you didn't see much improvement using the lower hho flow rate. The higher flow rate may have been too much for the computer to compensate for. Fooling the O2 sensor may result in better economy with hho.
maybe it's better to use it on an older engine. on my first video about HHO, 1.2L/min oxyhydrogen can increase rpm by 200 in the carburetor type engine..
@@albertnario4877on the older carbureted engine most probably there is no idle RPM stabilisation/ regulation system that is why idle RPM increase .Since HHO must increase the rate of burning of the mixture, it’s equivalent ( as a result) of increasing the ignition timing advance angle ( the idle RPM are stabilised by varying the timing advance angle in most of the modern EFI engines ) . The fact that the idle RPM increases with 200RPM , means that HHO is doing something positive for the combustion process. The energy balance ( energy spent on its production / increasing energy efficiency production from the engine ) is another story .
You are skilled man. 850W is too much for alternator, not just for the HHO generator. Try with much less watts, 50 to 300, just need a time to see is there some results (minimum 150km, up to 2000km).
Sadly the car's computer will compensate for the extra "oxygen - it thinks" going into the system and will add more FUEL negating the addition of HHO to the economy. The timing needs to be retarded for a more complete burn also, hydrogen burns infinitely faster than petroleum and if you watch videos on how ICE's work you'll see the plug sparks before top dead centre to make up for the slow burn rate of the fuel. SO imagine all the hydrogen igniting before the piston has reached TDC, it's fighting against itself (the engine) to finish it's travel before starting it's down stroke reducing the power and demanding more FUEL from the petrol tank by the "untrained" computer. Try changing the resistance on the oxygen sensor wherever it is on your car to trick the computer into a very lean running state. This is much better done on OLDER cars and their primitive carburetor driven engines, but can also work on diesel engines quite well. Get a 4 stroke mower running on pure HHO and you'll discover tweaking things faster. I AM a mechanic AND an electronics technician BTW and OLD lol. Frequency is the key here, once you discover the frequency the plates produce gases best then you're getting further. Think diodes and capacitors as a frequency "energy tank" with cascading connections to tweak the input. BTW I have NEVER used chemicals in the water, it's not so good for the environment although pure HHO running motors actually CLEAN the air as the run it through their system. Keep trying friend, it's possible - ask the dead Stanley Meyers!
Lo que nadie dice que la batería calienta los cables, además la rompe en muy poco tiempo hasta que no inventen un buen distribuidor de la corriente, no es muy viable en una palabra, es un ENGAÑO
Hope you have not degraded you Toyota Car Systems and warranty. STOP Unknowingly you may be doing long term damage. Like emission requirements at your next DOT registration; new tags.
Great another sorceri video ... the only problem that physics doesn't agree ... by the way where the hell the energy is coming from to "generate" the hydrogen ... ? So you convert all the energy back somehow what required to generate the hydrogen .. right ? The engine is at best 34% efficient so just by burning the hydrogen loose energy .. Another total nonsense....
Неправильно сделал электролищер и не правильно запитал его,поясню,есть определенная площадь которая эффективно позволяет делать электролиз при условии оптимальных параметров,нагрев к количеству и еще циркуляции,у него же все 3 параметра не правильно при подключении видно как электролит уходит чего быть не должно как и дыма это как раз не правильная работа электролизера,если уже решил делать то можно изучить для начала вопрос.еще и напряжение на ячейку 1.2-1-8в максимум.ну а для легкой повторимости можно выполнить из спирали одна в другую высота 5см расстояние и длину опытным путем
@@user-wh2fx6pf4n I know It can, I have used one myself ,stopped using it only because it buggered the valve seats . So not a good idea unless the engine is prepared too.