**NOTES & CORRECTIONS** - Arylus pointed out that the line from A Drunkard's Tale, "what you call wine, we call the abyss" isn't quite so literal. Instead of calling out the abyss directly, it uses 渊源 (yuanyuan) which means Origin vs 深渊 (shenyuan) which is used for the Abyss. So this is complicated, and I'm not really qualified to comment on intention of meaning here, but it doesn't *really* change the meaning too much. Hopefully someone with a deeper understanding of the linguistics here can add some clarity. From my understanding though, the "origin" in this case is like the "nothingness of the void" which I think still fits with our current concept of the abyss, and it would imply that the stuff inside of the abyss is "source material." I'll update this note if/when I can get a better/clearer explanation.
from what i read from baidu(cn search engine), 渊源could mean: 1. the source of water, the source of incident 2. the teacher and student relationship in academics 3. two things that are related, connected 4. something deep in meaning, hard to understand
So as it turns out, after watching this I wound up looking through the details and in More about Arlecchino: 5 it talks about Pierro being surprised that the bloodline of the crimson moon dynasty still exists. So we all were not crazy for thinking she is related to khaenri'ah before her release, which also would mean the hilichurl theory is very much possible since she would also be afflicted with the curse of the wilderness.
Quick thing: Simurghs, though called persian phoenixes, are not actually phoenixes and have no association with fire. They have power over wind and can purify earth and water
That's more likely than you think. Assuming the theory that four of the dragon sovereigns are representations of the 4 auspicious beasts from eastern myth, the auspicious beast of the north is a black tortoise, associated with winter and water, meaning he's likely the dragon sovereign of Cryo and can be found somewhere in Sneznheya. This means that the Black Tortoise is a somewhat end-game sovereign that will show up right before the final chapter, likely after the Tsaritsa has been dealt with and we begin expanding the region more and more. As a result, it's the perfect time to combine local region lore with foreshadowing for the next region, meaning Black Tortoise Sustainer is a perfectly valid possibility.
She did, and I'm kind of okay with it. Might be a crack theory though. Must show some insanity every now and again. Must be rather boring reading lore all day for your job. I like lore, but not to the extent I'd make a job out of it.
@@spymadmax584also she constructed a "web" in her arch and waited for Aether and the children to be tangled up in her narrative so she could attack and get what she wanted, just like a spider
I remember literally something very canonical, either a character or book, compared her to a spider and I was like “welp, that concludes it” 😭 might’ve not been a character, but it was somewhere important enough to be considered facts.
I love how between ashikai unhinged speculation and ridiculous amount of branches she dives into, you can learn so much about genshin lore AND real stories and religion lore
@@Deltakryzz Good point, but the background is different with five pillars instead. Also, why is there a throne by the Icewind Suite in the first place? What I mean is, who are they performing for?
@@IterateTBOMS There isn't a throne. There are _three_ thrones. Which I don't know about anyone else, but that puts me in mind of the god-kings of Sumeru. Deshret, Nabu Malikata and Rukkhadevata. So why is there the same symbolism being used in this random boss arena in Fontaine? During the course of writing this comment, I've started to think that maybe the idea of three ruling gods is repeated across all nations. Mondstadt has Decarabian, Andrius and Barbatos. Though Barbatos wasn't a god at the time, so if you don't like that, you can replace him with Istaroth. Liyue has Morax and Guizhong - potentially the third could be the god of Chenyu Vale, if you don't subscribe to the theory of her being Guizhong. Inazuma, as in most things, is a huge ??? Sumeru has the triumvirate we know, no need to rehash that. And Fontaine only has Egeria and Remus that we know of.
@keagonlua1090 what they talk about is that AHA, the aeon of elation, gaved godly ability to a worm....becs it was funny or something, anyway these abilities maked the warm a member of the genius society(I think, or something similar)
And six elements were released initially (minus dendro), and six archon thrones now remain, and tsritsa has to collect only SIX gnoses (has her own already) and the hypostases have six faces, and the Akademiya has SIX darshans IT'S ALL COMING TOGETHER /j
@@SaikoAkihiko_787 Not that I know of but may unintentionally do so. In Magic, Angel and Vampire are classic creature types. Penguin though only shows up on one card( I think) and it is from a joke set. But mashing creature types is often seen in Magic's history.
If the three moon sisters are dragons, then nibelung can be a moon sister? "But Nibelung is the dragon king not queen" "Well Arlecchino is called father"
I generally love when your videos just pop up but I would've loved for this to come a little later just to hear your thoughts on Ei and Miko's short conversation about the possible future war
I think they were pretty directly talking about Teyvat going to war with Celestia. Which is kinda nuts that the first time this idea is directly brought up is in the silly Itto music event.
HELP I DONT KNOW WHAT IS UP AND DOWN. So irminsul is upside-down (like the hindu ashvatta tree) so celestia is downwards and the abyss is upwards Seelies are both faeries and angels. Angels live in heaven (up) and faeries live underground (down) And the abyss order are also angels and they live in the abyss which is (up) And also in norse mythology there was a dragon , nidhogg, that chewed at the roots of ygddrasil and an eagle at the top of the tree. Also the connection between dragons and faeries reminded me of maleficent.
Perinheri is the abyss twin. Because iirc in the chinese version, their gender changes to be the opposite of the traveler. The only character whose gender is dependent on ours is the abyss twin. I highly doubt Lumine (for me) is Arlecchino’s great grandma.
One problem in this video is that primordial one was the first descender who defeated the dragons and built his kingdom way before the 6000 year old cataclysm The outlander that married the seelie is supposed to be the second descender and they fought alongside the primodial one against the the cataclysm (source- nevelutte lore )which everyone suspects was the dragon ling nebolong who returned to take revenge with aybss powers (apep quest of nahida ) We belive he became the third descender because of being corrupted by abyss
I can’t get over “Vampire Penguin” lmao- the angel thing makes sense tho considering the amount of “wings” she has:3 Can’t wait to see this unhinged theory tho!
The star-devouring darkness sound like IX, or a Shadows of IX. Perharp the star-devourind darkness is/was a shadow of IX. And the "when you face a force enough to destroyed one, or perhaps even to two worlds" sound a lot like to what happened to Izumo and Takamagahara, both worlds who where slowly started to sink into the "black great sun" (one of IX shadow) but were destroyed by Acheron.
I'm glad I'm not the only person who made the interesting connection between Nephilim and Niflheim while lore exploring. Dwarves being conflated with fallen angel offspring is just too interesting to ignore. Almost like there's a secret web of connections hidden in the annuls of various histories; an Akashic Record of human events; a World Tree of civilizations.
About the wine I was reading "Heart's Desire" Vol. 3 and found this: "Well, that's not why I'm here this time. This time I am here to ask for something from you... the wine. That special wine you've got that helps you forget about the one you long for." Seems like ashikai coocked as usual
Oh yeah, nice! So, the wine of forgetting is abyss power, and forgetting is "death" and so death is the abyss, and the abyss is the interior of the crimson moon, so the abyss is the corpse of the crimson moon sister?? (who would be the muse that cuts the string of a person's life, the Fate responsible for death, the crone)
I thought the little pari-looking things in arlechino's boss fight were just representations of Lynette, Lyney, and Freminet, who are not present in our memories of the fight and so the 3 pari things are dancing around her, aswell as Clervie who is standing simply just watching outside the ring
im not fully through the video yet but i just had to mention, there was an article a while back by some scientists that theorised that Venus may have undergone global warming in a similar vein to earth, just many years before earth started. additionally (spoiler warning for Honkai Impact 3rd) the planet Venus was once a planet with humans until it got destroyed, leaving only one survivor who later went on to become so powerful she would nearly rival the power of Finality. weird how all the hoyoverse games are kinda the same ideas just muddled around
All the games are meant to parallel eachother, like Hesperus and Phosphorus I think was a mini version of that, also Griseo carrying life from Earth ended up creating that population with Vita. Then recently you have the parallels between Remoria and Penacony, The Order, Harmony it all links so well, all about discordance and song.
I honestly wished this videos were longer. It feels like there are a lot of cuts and mental shortcuts to make the video more compact, but in a theory this big (and most of them are) I think it is a detriment to the depth and understanding while watching it. For some time, it has felt impossible for me to follow these videos even though the theories are super good, and I suspect that is the reason. I'd rather hear you explain in detail all of your points, and references, to paint a whole picture. Like how you once used to describe the entire opera genshin was driving inspiration from, and that allowed the viewer to paint a picture that you had in mind while connecting the dots. You payved a way for us to connect the dots instead of showing that there is a connection, and although the difference was subtle it lead to a better understanding of mine of your videos. And yes that would mean the videos would be longer, but I honestly think that people who watch this channel are invested either way. And it would maybe make making the script for the videos easier. I know I can research all of it on my own, and maybe I will. You mentioned that you had a lot more to this theory and it was hard to summerize all your thoughts, and I suggest that maybe you don't? Like yes please summerize but also don't cut away from the thought process and the learning of all the sources and all the details that lead you to your conclusion. I think all of that is super interesting in a video and I would rather watch an hour long video containing your whole thought porcess. I still loved it tho and thanks for connecting the craziest dots for us that still make sense.
i desperately need an add on to this because Venti is literally sitting out there: having angel wings, drinking wine, living in a place called 'moon city' right next to spiral abyss, matching the color of seelies, wearing triquetras all over his cape, allying with witches, protecting khaenrians (albedo/kaeya), chillin with a dragon, archiving teyvats history in a way that is exempt from irminsul patch updates, WRITTEN TO BE THE "WITNESS (watcher) TO THE DIVINE" AND is a part of a thousand wind hivemind...... ive always been convinced venti was actually a seelie but now youve got me thinking hes a dragon out for the long con revenge game????? i love it. His association with apples also ties him to the "sinner" from the garden of eden (celestia) and it was HIS statue used as a reflection of the 'sinner' crystal we found in the abyss >.> not to mention the whole sacred sakura tree shebang existing because of knowledge istaroth, and therefore most likely venti, had and Most Likely used to create Windrise which is a giant tree that can heal gods for an unexplainable reason.
Jokes aside, I really get Nasuverses Crimson Moon vibes from Genshin Crimson Moon. Am I only one? Nasus Crimson Moon was pretty much the embodiment of the moon summoned to Earth to cull the human population, but he chooses to try take Earth over himself and is eventually defeated. Incomplete copies of him are vampires of sort. During Arles fight when she freezes Traveler on the spot with her eyes and summons The Crimson Moon is also so reminiscent of Arcueids (who is kinda like Crimson Moons "heir") mystic eyes and ability to shape reality.
Ever since Arlecchino released, with all we learned about her, it’s like Genshin and the universe has been throwing my Genshin OC concept right in my face. My OC is a Fontainian historian and adventurer, and a descendant of the Khaenri’ahn civilization whose curse lay dormant because they got out quite a bit before the Cataclysm, but OC was cursed anyway because she discovered a chain with red crystals, a jeweled chain made of Durin’s cursed blood crystals crafted by the Abyss Order and abandoned on Dragonspine when the Traveler presumably came across them and put a stop to their activity. The latent Khaenri’ahn dna, the abyssal power, and the latent power still in Durin’s heart and blood mingle within OC and curse her to start turning into a dragon. She gets a Cryo vision when she commits to bearing the cursed chain so it can’t harm anyone else, and her vision halts her curse’s progression. Arlecchino is a cursed descendant of Khaenri’ah with ties to blood magic, she’s from Fontaine but not actually from Fontaine, they’re both even Polearm users! And then this week, solar flares are causing Aurora Borealis way further south than they usually are so they’re over my area, and one of Arlecchino’s dreams with Clervie was to see the Aurora Borealis.
This is what keeps me into Genshin, the "everything is connected" setup in the world-building and yet, we still get some much surprises which turns to different branches of speculations. For me, Arle shows the motif of half angel-half demon when it comes to her color motiff. The way she can perform pseudo death and rebirth is also great. As much as I'm amazed by Arle, all this makes me hope bigger things regarding Columbina.
the little notes and memes we've been getting form the editor recently are so funny and they go really well with the videos, please keep it up editor-san!
So about the 2 types of humans that are metion at 9:00 , something like that is mentioned in the "The snow princess and the 6 dwarves" from the lisa quest, that mentioned a new kind of humans born outside of the dark realm and inside of the moonshine forest. Humans with clear skin, hair and blue eyes (like Kaen'rians?)
22:12 something to point out is that this is probably another media reference like Bladerunner. The one wing thing is more then likely a reference to Sephiroth from Final Fantasy 7, who’s not only called the One Winged ANGEL, but(spoilers) who’s motivation is to become God so he can control the planets lifestream to take the planet back from humanity and “no longer be just a *memory* ”
I think wryothesley is extremely sus too, he also has this flame like things when he use his elemental skill? I only noticed when one friend of mine used him in coop. I saw him as a counterparts of Arlecchino.. If he is a warewolf, blue themes, cryo then Arlecchino with her red themes based on blood and so on is "the vampire". Maybe he also inherited this power in a incomplete or less dangerous form? Or maybe is only me reading too much fantasy book :') (also clorinde is the monster hunter.. Let me dream)
have you seen how at the end of the music event right now ei and yae talk about “a bigger war” to come? i thought you would probably find something to relate to it some day idk
kinda interesting that you mention the Penguin Island book at the end there. Since what are the people of Fontaine, the France region, but non-human beings, Oceanids, the who were turned into humans by a God, Egeria. Also to note that like Auks, Oceanids have bird like features and features to help them swim better.
I love that you keep up with Persona 5 background music; honestly it's fits sooooo well. (also it's like one of my favorite games of all time and dog I'm old as dirt).
The Demon Penguin Lord. I'm in. I really hope she goes the Fallen Angel route. As I've always looked at Arlecchino as an Anti-Hero. She holds no loyalty to the Tsarista, or Celestia. Only to herself and her Orphanage. Which is why every Crimson Moon an angel falls.
I actually searched the name "inheri" and got the norse myth of "einherjar," who are people who died in battle and were brought to Asgard by Valkaries. In Asgard, they feed off of a nightly regenerating beast and prepare for Ragnarok. Idk I just found that interesting-
06:25 Defeating the local legend doesn't give the "Like tears in the rain" achievment. That achievment is when you kill a mechanical manta ray next to real ones. Defeating the Local Legends give "The Fairy Knight Twins"
Yes. I gave up on trying to understand whatever great loure fundamentals you keep blessing us with, and I've come to realize that by the end of the day, it's all art and it's quite harmonious to hear your theories, they keep the game's lore much more interesting then it is in reality, please make lore for Z.Z.Z when it releases too~!
This theory makes even more sense if you think about how Neuvilette turned all the oceanid people of Fontaine into actual humans. Oceanids have similar traits to seelies, Neuvilette is a dragon, and his authority somehow has the ability to turn oceanids into actual human people. Draws a pretty clear line between dragons seelies and humans right? Not to mention all the historical moments of people trying to meld their own minds and souls together. Maybe seelies are just souls?? If the little spirits following Arle are memories shes taken from people, then maybe all seelies are all just memories and enough memories just make up a soul. Goes with Arle and her grim reaper thematics. She reaps memories, grim reaper traditionally reaps souls. Clervie appearing makes even more sense! Her memories being so strong that her soul stayed in tact. Im just rambling in circles now you get the idea
I haven’t seen anything about it anywhere but it seems like the little sprites/pari-like creatures change form some time during the weekly boss fight, I wanted to get a closer look at them after I beat the knave and noticed 2 of them seemed to change look more like her wings do, black and red, not sure why that is
I'm not that into lore but I can't help but be reminded of Demian by Herman Hesse when you mentioned two worlds! It probably doesn't mean anything but I find it interesting because Hesse was heavily inspired by Jung and gnosticism and those are things that Hoyo really likes to take from :)
I just wanna say a few things... Hoyo loves to make references and connections between their games (And I mean it like... Well, Dvaling appeared in HI3 when Otto could see other worlds of the Imaginary Tree), and history has been seen repeting itself from one story to another... Like how Penacony is the same as the Project Stigma that Kevin made at the end of HI3 part 1, as well as it was the same that happened to Remuria, and the same that this lil' shit (I don't remember his name, but the guy who turned Jakob into an Abyssling xD) wanted to do with Fontaine to save everyone (It kinda sounds like he was Genshin's KeBin)... But, en Honkai, it is shown that they had passed, at least, two cycles of life and dead; but probably more, since Kevin was so desperate 'cause Earth was the last planet the Finality was about to consume in the Solar System, and it even seemed like it could be Earth's last chance to defeat Honkai. While, in Genshin, we had many people who tried to make this "Project Stigma", or also known as "Human Instrumentality Project", a way of turning humanity as a one big self, to mix human and "God" as one as the next way of "Evolution" (As told both in Evangelion, the biggest inspiration for Hoyoverse itself, and Kevin, when he was justifying that the world "must evolve to defeat Honkai"), so... Maybe that's what Crimson Moon dynasty were trying to do? To mix their genes with the dead moon's genes (Like how Gendo Ikari fused himself with Adam and how Kevin took Finality's power by force) and become gods somehow....?
Now that HSR 2.2 just dropped (I'm leaving out any actual spoilers and going hard on philosophy), I'm wondering quite a lot at Pers story of learning to swim and wanting to fly...Both Hi3 and HSR use the question "Why do birds fly" to try and push at certain philosophical questions, HSR treats flying as the act of striving for more and taking risks (similar to the story of how the birds in Genshin learned to fly through their courage), while HI3 talks about it as humanity trying to find a way to survive a catastrophic situation. Considering the similarities between genshin and project stigma, I'm certain theres something more to that. also Re: abyss stuff being "Source Material", and the similarites between the abyss and the hi3 sea of quanta. HI3 part 2 introduced a civilization on mars, who live in these artificial semi connected bubble universes, after the old mars became uninhabitable. Those bubbles are in a special altered section of the sea of quanta with slightly different properties called the Sea of Data, and most of the raw resources that people rely on in those bubbles comes from "Source Matter" that originates from the sea of data. The humans potentially splitting into teyvatians and khaenriahns might work really well with the "khaenriah is the og planet that celestia was from after its destruction made the Ark leave to go find a new place to settle" theory- okay wait nevermind all that you just exploded my brain with the seelie dragon revised timeline
So fun fact. The traveler as a voiceline on a certain tribe of hilichurl called the ecplise trybe. Paimon says that its rumored that only the sawachaurl of the tribes knows what the simbol means wich makes the traveler thinks of the simbol like if he know something about. Paimon asks him what he is thinking about wich the traveler replies by dodging the question and saying about food. Paimon on this answer comments by saying that he would probably belong more in the meaty trybe instead of the ecplise trybe. Joke aside i feel like this dialogue is some kind of foreshadowing. The traveler seems to know something about the ecplise simbol and the comment on not belonging seems to tell me that he has some bad history with this tribe.
Can i just point out that zhongli has been in teyvat for over 6000yrs as per the archon quest meaning his fame was recorded when he officially made his presence.
interestingly, abyss mages use an Enochian-based language when regenerating shields i think as well as when dancing (?) with hilichurls. and you can also see some enochian script around the weak points of ruin machines in the yellow protective runes (the glyphs are mirrored but it’s an enochian script) so that’s used in context with abyss and khaenriah!
I always assumed the little spirits in her boss form are the after-images of those she killed that are mentioned in her profile. It's still interesting to see the whole Crimson Moon parallel with the Seelies, even more so when lots of people actually associate Columbina with a Seelie.
Its genuinely so cool (and also kinda funny) just how connected arlecchino is to the whole of genshin's story . Like yeah shes related to khaenri'ah and outlanders and seelies and the themes of knowledge & memory and the abyss ANYWAYS heres her story quest its about the house of the hearth
it’s pretty fascinating how so many things that seemed completely unrelated are being linked to one another. like yeahhh, seelies are dragons, and visions are from dragons, and there’s dragons in the abyss, and natlan has dragon people and maybe paimon is a dragon who even knows at this point :/
@@jivraj2110idk, when it comes to someone doing something amazing, I just say that they burned it....but like it's a good way, but ik what today internet people use and mean through it, that was just personally me
Okay, this kinda solves my confusion from ages ago! I always wonder whether Moon Sisters and the Seelies belong to the Primordial One or the Dragon Era. The tale of Primordial One never talked as if they were their people, but they just entered the story somehow. And so is the Dragon. At this point, I think they might be the actual sustainers of the world from the age of Dragons, along with the dragons. You know what, if one of the Moon Sisters submitted to the Usurpers, i think Azdaha once said there are also dragon that also submitted to the Usurper? Maybe that dragon and that moon sister were in cahoot, well at least they shared the same opinion.
correct me if i am wrong but in order to understand what she wanted to say , here's what i got : Arlecchino isn't a pinguin but a descendant of a pinguin ( aka primordial one, and pinguin is a reference to an alien who flee their home due to destruction and went looking for a new place) and her race are a result of primordial one "marrying" a seelie ( i.e used them to make a mix of an ideal human) (also this cursed the seelies and led to moon sisters fighting and dying and one of them assisted the primordial one) which are a vampire angels but then 2nd who came etc showed up and caused an apocalyptic destruction and now primordial one had to recreat humans again but lesser than the vampire humans . the latters had survivers and founded khaenriah . [now my question is, if khaenrians are the creation of the primordial one, why they are against gods, and are the enemies of celestia and why are they waiting for descenders?] |and if the original pure blood khaenrians aren't cursed like others but remain in a human form, why we haven't seen any except Dain/kaeya/pierro, also where's Arle from so she can be in an orphan in khaenriah and why her eyes isn't similar to dain/kaeya/pierro, also telling from her story she isn't old, like not +500 so her parents existed not long time ago( SAME AS KAEYA), which lead to my previous question, WHERE ARE THE PURE BLOOD KHAENRIANS] oh and do we have an explanation about carter hands and arle hands?
I actually think she is in reference to Jack o Lantern. Those little things are will o wisp. (Ignis Fatuus) Ignis Purgatorius. Stingy Jack struck between world. The knave in poker card are know as Jack. Guess who wield the scythe? Jack the ripper .... reaper (in some depiction) . Scythe is use in harvest. Arlecchino is also inspire by Vlad the Impaler (Dracula) He is known for impale his opponent on the war ground and bath with their blood. Arlecchino is try impale us with the spike that come up from the ground. Arlecchino wings look like phoenix too. Her throne look like those hand of the Archon. I dont want Arlecchino to cry. Like the prophecy of the mural. She who sat on a throne weeping alone.
Something I thought about: Paimon is often compared to the moon while the traveller is compared to the sun. Paimon is also connected to heaven by a string (of fate? The game devs are weeebs so they must be very familiar with that japanese concept). And the crimson moon is a moon of vengeance who hates her sister for working for the primordial one. Think of this: My thought process is the moon in the sky is a dead sister (as it is stated blatantly in the lore) who died in that mess of a war (potentially by the usurper) and to save the rest of the world/her other sister/some seelies, the moon sister (that could be Paimon) decided to agree to work for the usurper as a method to control fate to stop the war. The moons having control of the sky and such makes a lot of sense to me, so they could potentially be able to manipulate to or to create a fake sky. That fake sky of course is the mechanism of constellations and 'fate'. In that process, the moon sister (Paimon) has betrayed her other living sister THE CRIMSON MOON as she worked with the one who caused the death of their third sister. **Paimon betraying someone important to her was BLATANTLY stated during the quest in Enkanomiya.** The sister who died and the crimson moon could've both fought against the usurper with Nibelung/the dragons as they wouldnt want their world to be invaded/colonized. The moon sister (who could be Paimon) couldve decided to work with the usurper to spare the life of the crimson moon after one of her sisters died. The crimson moon decides to work with humanity (Khaenriah/The Abyss) by providing them with abyssal energy in the form of wine/blood as stated in the video. The crimson moon is also closely associated with vengeance, which could be either against the usurper or her own sister (Paimon). The Paimon we see now is just a shell, as most of her powers were/are being used to run the mechanism of fate used by celestia/primordial one, with all her memories gone she was sealed on the nameless island essentially being used a powerplant.
Okay... so... I have to cut in, because this is also being told in a nation inspired by France, potentially extended to a slightly more late rennaissance/ reformation era Europe in general. Part of that Europe includes Transylvania, or more notably, the kingdom of Walachia. It is my understanding that many European Vampire tales that hold their origins post-Christianity depict the progenitor vampire as someone who "sold their soul to the devil for power", and pre- Christianity as someone who "was cursed with undeath by the gods as an affront so that they may never reunite with their lost loved ones again"... But in Teyvat the Gods, or ARCHONS are all named after Demon Nobility... Devils. And thus, drinking the poisoned wine becomes "Oh, thou who has surrendered to despair, hear my call. I offer you my power, but in exchange, I will feast on your soul, and the soul of all who follow. I will be a plague on your kin, but you will never want for the power to lay waste to your enemies. If you accept this contract, continue to drink of mine blood." And considering in many forms of literature losing one's soul often becomes depicted as having their emotions stifled or stolen in favor of cold, cruel logic... it fits. Not trying to speak over you, because I respect where you were going, but I felt like some extra context could be food for thought in case of Arlecchino/ Harbinger video number 6 or 7...