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Lofi is one of my favorite genres. But one thing i find with lofi is people think “lo-fi” Is an excuse to just make trash and then be like “it’s sounds bad bc it’s lofi” even though lofi is just like any other genre. There’s rules. ps no hate to any of these beats or anyone
I don't know about anyone else but in my opinion and what I've gathered from "internet" culture, Shrek being in the Avengers would be a phenomenon like no other.
@@AmazonCrime he means the static should feel like when you fucking nail your funny bone, that pins and needles kinda static feeling idk how else to describe it
@@StewartGaming23 I thought he meant that it shouldn't be "constant". as in it should have some variation, or like how the crackle isn't very apparent usually but if u bump the table it will trigger
bruh you just roasted my beat and im so happy about that 😭😭😭 thanks Navie, ill let you roast my beats whenever you want as long as i can be there taking notes😔👊 (guy from the first beat). im joking but yeah fr that was really helpful
also many ppl are making j dilla inspired lofi beats. in those cases it's okay for your drums to sound less natural. the feel of those types of beats is a greater blend of hip hop and jazz and the hip hop elements usually come from the drums. so do it!
i consider myself a drill producer , but it’s always best to get out of your comfort zone and learn multiple genres. It’ll build your creativity as a producer! Great advice bro 🕊🙏🏽
I overlook effect inserts so often because I think there too "subtle" to matter, but every time I watch your videos I realize yet another thing I considered unimportant is actually extremely valuable
This was back in 2016 so it’s been awhile I always had issues with mixing mastering though sound great in studio play it in car or elsewhere sounds terrible terrible terrible few things I need to work on but your videos are great I like how you explain in multiple ways to help me understand I still got a ways to go but I love making music 🎶 if I could make it a career nothing would be better nothing thank you again brother 💯
Have always been interested in making a lofi beat. Don't know where I'm going with my current beat. Feel a little stuck. Lol. May just can it and get some inspiration from this. Great vid as always!
@@NavieD Definitely seems like it! It feels like you can get away with a little more as far as mud, mixing, and sounds so possibly could be a bit more creative.
I haven’t produced anything publicly but i’ve been working on music for the past few years and i’ve noticed my favorite tracks are when I disresgard those fundamentals. when just looping instead of chopping or chopping things that don’t go together instruments out of tune etc it all sounds much more to the styles of music I prefer. just wanted to comment for the ppl who are starting out but wanted to dive into experimentation I recommend trying anything that comes to mind.
Fair enough! This video is more directed towards people who want to pursue one particular aesthetic. I am always an advocate for experimentation though.
Yo, I - for once - don't necessarily agree with all your points, and I think that it has to do with our definition of lofi. I believe that lofi essentially means low fidelity: taking out most of the high end, adding tape emulation and vinyl noise does technically make a sound lofi. The thing is, the lofi genre is dominated by the chill hiphop beats (beats to study/relax to kind of beats), to a point where you could make a chill beat with a lot of highend, without any vinyl noise / scratchy sound and people would still call this lofi because it's nice and relax. At the end of the day, I feel like lofi should be an adjective, not a genre. If I make sense. Here are some point I'd like to discuss: 1. you could perfectly make a lofi beat using a trap hihat pattern, and I hear this a lot, provided that your sound selection is good and that you make sure to take out a lot of the high end. 2. you're not bound to use "jazz loops or instruments" to make a lofi beat, jazz lofi is a subgenre of the whole "lofi genre". Jazz itself can be so musically rich and different that it doesn't make a lot a sense to me. 3. Shrek would be an awesome avenger Good video nonetheless,got me thinking since there is a lot of confusion about this genre/aesthetic (and I'm certainly not an expert), but that's a good thing since it leaves room for experimentation and creativity.
Yeah, it's hard to make these types of videos based on genre because the genre can mean different things to different people. Like you said, leaving room for experimentation and creativity is important. But if someone is having issues with their lofi beat and wants to figure out why they can't get a particular aesthetic, this video is to help put some ideas into their head to troubleshoot more than anything. I really don't want any of my videos to come as me saying you HAVE to do x, y and z. These are just suggestions.
@@NavieD oh don't worry it didn't feel like you said "one HAS to do this / that", just wanted to discuss your points further as I found the video interesting and definitely helpful. (Still think that your opinion on Shrek in Avengers is lame though.)
I kinda like the feel without the bassline in the last one I just think there probably needs to be more sections with the bassline added. Could be super cool having it drop off every once in a while to have more spacy "incomplete" feel as long as it comes back around 😎
If you want to do a "lofi" thing with trap drums, perhaps something like Vaportrap or something could be a different "lofi" aesthetic to experiment with
Lmao I love you navie. Thank you for explaining why my beats suck as bad as Shrek in an avengers movie. Real talk, you have some really excellent videos and have helped me tremendously.
@@NavieD Yea i could hear that low mid pop up beautifully! Also i recently found out , making these kind of warm lofi beats at 432hz brings in some another level to it . the remaining harshness if any, also get kicked out completely in that 432hz .
i would say (as someone who does jazz and now lofi beats (on the side)), experiment with sounds please. a lot of lofi sounds very similar because everyone is just doing jazzy version. if you want to know what lofi with electric instruments can sounds like, listen to 90's smooth jazz and fusion. even though i HATE smooth jazz, 90s smooth jazz and fusion feature a lot of melow, ballad-like songs that made great use of electric instruments.
Fair enough! My intention is to just give suggestions to people who are pursuing an aesthetic, but can't quite figure out what they're doing that leads the astray. Keeping the door open for experimentation is important, and something I value. But if someone has the explicit intention to pursue this particular aesthetic, this video is made to provide some suggestions. Making a video on genres inherently has this problem though.
The phrase "Lofi has to be" this way or that way triggers me so much, have fun making it instead of over analyzing... And minimalist approach is a style of Lofi that I personally prefer, there is no right or wrong.. but it's just my opinion ( a guy with over 10mill "Lofi" Spotify streams ). Also people that make lofi cuz they think they can jump on a "trend" will not get far either way.. again just my opinion. Peace ☮️
Like I said in other comments. These are just tips for people who want to achieve this particular, common lofi aesthetic but can't figure out what they're doing wrong. By all means, explore and bend the genre, I am advocate for experimentation.
Navie d I downloaded your drum kit but the 808s keep playing even when I press pause and cutting it doesn't work and changing the time doesn't work it just keeps playing till it stops on its own
just discovered the channel, it’s awesome, thank you for your work. Can i be 100 and respectfully disagree? I was feeling the drums in the first example, i don’t think it was necessarily improved by strictly sticking to the lo-if aesthetic. For the sake of the video sticking to the traditional lofi fundamentals , I understand why you would change the drums, but I thought it sounded fresh with the drums being a little trappy lol. Just my opinion that no one asked for 😆
You put Shrek in the movie 🤔😂😂 perfect example. This was great. food for thought you made me realize I'm not using the proper drums when it comes down to it.
Anyone else find it weird that "lofi" is considered to be a specific style within the hip hop genre? Lofi is just lofi. Any genre can be lofi. While I understand the point he's making about drums, I disagree with it not sounding "lofi".
Well, lofi is a genre derived from hip hop, so I guess it's natural to think it's under the umbrella of hip hop. As for my points, like I said in other comments. This vid is for people wanting to pursue that one very common lofi aesthetic.
Yeah man I understand. I suppose the point I was making was that lofi now has the connotation of a slower tempo, melancholy vibe, opposed to the more literal meaning it used to have, of being low fidelity sounds.
Like I said in other comments. These are just tips for people who want to achieve this particular, common lofi aesthetic but can't figure out what they're doing wrong. By all means, explore and bend the genre, I am advocate for experimentation.
The trap hats is the elephant in the room, a lot of people doing and no one has the courage to say that this shit sucks and doesn't fit the beat at all.
the lo-fi sound originates from analog gear and real drum kits where the processing emphasis is on the midrange and lower frequencies. that’s why a lot of lo-fi producers used to sample drums from the 60’s and 70’s. you can’t really get that sound from synthesized drums. there’s too much high end frequencies and not enough midrange and warmth
I guess these tips make sense if you really want to make music in a specific genre - the way you present is makes it sound really narrow minded though. Isn't the goal of music just to make music you like or that other people like? And genres are just trying to describe what artists are doing. It's not about replicating genres - it's about creating something you like! Why would you prohibit people making weird movies with avengers and shrek? (tbh. I think this analogy doesn't really work for music - but it shows our difference in approach to art)
Like I said in the other comments, these are tips to pursue that very common style of lofi we all are used to hearing. By all means, experiment. But if someone is struggling to pursue that particular common style, this video is meant for them
I understand there is a time and place for guidance on how to better achieve our goals in music production. But if you're framing it as "you're not sounding enough like what I think the genre should sound like" then you're overstepping. Especially when it's producers blending genres that progress music in general.
That's a fair point. Maybe I should have worded it better. Certain producers aim to make a very specific genre, and when they do so, there are concepts that they must consider (as outlined in the video). I am all for experimentation and pushing a genre forward, but I would say that this video is more for people who want to achieve a very particular sound.
@@NavieD As a genre-bender, I appreciate it. And I definitely understand where you're coming from. It was the "all these trap producers coming in thinking they know what sounds good" comments that struck a nerve
Tbh, all the labels of different types of beats aren’t really too important. I know what you mean, timbres of drum samples that you use are important, but you better not overthink the process. Just pick drums that feel right to you. Even some newer Griselda projects are really washing away the boundaries between modern boombap and trap. Having labels for different sounds is useful to describe things, but it should never dictate your taste, your vision.
I hear you. It's always difficult to make genre based videos for this reason. My intention with this video was to help those who just want to pursue a very particular aesthetic, and where they may be going wrong.
Like I said in other comments. These are just tips for people who want to achieve this particular, common lofi aesthetic but can't figure out what they're doing wrong. By all means, explore and bend the genre, I am advocate for experimentation.
These are ok guidelines for people just starting to make lofi, but it's not hard to find great lofi beats that break each of these rules. Lofi is really just a general vibe of just chill beats more than anything specific. Tons of lofi tracks have synths in them, it's just a matter of individual sound design.
