Brock you're a cool dude, I guess I never really though about it but seeing you help people with this stuff is great and sometimes it's taken for granted. The help is much appreciated my friend
@@BrockMcGoff I am from Pakistan.I want to buy a new watch from Amazon..I have added 2 watches daniel wellington and orient. .please guide me which watch should i nees to buy??i mean which watch is more durable and long lasting??
@@BrockMcGoff Thank you..i want to know about leather strap watches..Is leather strap durable and long lasting? ?Can original leather strap change color with passage of time??
Couldn't agree more. All valid points. General rule I follow in addition: if the brand is a clothing company and not a watch company, it's probably not worth getting. Generally they'll be cheap watches made by another company under license with the brand label slapped onto it.
pulifric look harder. You can get sapphire around that price. If you want accurate time use your phone. If you want something with heritage grab a Seiko or Orient Automatic. People pass on their Swiss or Japanese automatics. No one will pass on those garbage overpriced Chinese watches.
for the price of a DW i would rather buy a Seiko 5 or Vostok Amphibian or Orient Ray II all of which are automatic and have a history behind each brand
I like how the Linjer doesn't even put their logo on the dial, they're relying on putting out a quality product and hoping the buyer is going to recommend it due to good user experience. Daniel Wellington seem to rely more on getting instagram shots of their watches.
Most of my collection are mainly just quartz pieces that I bought to try and understand what styles I like. Recently I just bought my Tag Heuer Aqua Racer as I decided that's my favourite style
Every steel has anti-corrosive properties, that's what distinguishes it from iron! Apart from that: nice video, your non-snobby view on quartz is appreciated
I appreciate the effort that you put into comparing the two watches and giving a basic outline of what to look for in a watch, but it's hard to see it as an honest review knowing that Linjer sponsors you. I mean, how can you say that this is not a sales pitch with a straight face when you have a discount code in the video description? I understand that part of what keeps a fashion channel alive is the brand sponsorship so I'm not mad at you for keeping the channel sustainable; what does bother me is you trying to disguise the product you're being paid to promote as your genuine recommendation to those who are new to quality watches. If you do even the bare minimum amount of research into watches in this price range, you know that there are watches with a similar aesthetic with far better quality from more established/reliable companies. With that in mind, maybe pairing up with a subpar Kickstarter brand for a video centered around watch quality wasn't the best idea. I think something like a style recommendation video that doesn't revolve so much around the brand but still discusses fashion tips with watches was better suited for a sponsored video like this. Even if you were to keep the format the same, AT LEAST don't treat us like we're stupid and say "this is not a sales pitch." Just embrace that it's a sponsorship, be open and honest about it, and hope that the video will at least be a gateway for people to search out better options. At least that way you're being transparent with your audience. Brock, I love your stuff but deceptive marketing like this infuriates me. For those of you who are looking for actual quality at this price range, check out r/watches' buying guide; it's far more comprehensive and not sponsored: www.reddit.com/r/Watches/wiki/buyingguide
If you are concerned about the leather, there are a couple of options. 1) swap out the strap. Nearly every watch of this price range or higher you can swap out the strap. 2) All leather cracks. Use leather conditioner on it every few months to keep it nice and supple. It also cleans the leather and allows the leather to stay good for years to come. Genuine while not the best leather, it is not bad. Once again, use conditioner on the leather and it will last longer. While most people buy watches based upon the strap (I am guilty of this), you can change that and put on a much higher quality strap that looks better than the original. I feel like the only main difference between these two is the glass, which both have their advantages as you have mentioned. I prefer crystal, but it is a preference. Just my two cents, still a good video, and I think it is very informative.
The most I'd spend on a Quartz watch is $50. Get a timex for $20, Casio for $15, etc. I like to compare a lot of watches to a tissot for eta movements and an orient star for Japanese movements. For a watch enthusiast, you'll buy your own straps: metal, leather or other material. The 2 things most watch enthusiasts look into is the movement (in house or stock, and grade) and the metal the case is made out of. Stainless steel is okay, 304L is better, titanium is even better, and precious metals are on a whole different level. So when you hear about a (example) brass, in house modded v-7750 with 80hr power reserve going for $300, you do everything in your power to reserve one.
Exactly look at this, is below $150 Tissot T-Classic Everytime White Dial Mens Watch T1096101603700 www.amazon.com/dp/B01LDXRM12/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_-QwKAbQ4S541E
Tissot watches are ugly and almost never come without a day/date complication, which leads to asymmetry on the dial. Fashion watches are much more attractive than tissot and especially seiko watches. Swiss watchmakers need to get with the times. Minimalism is the style now. Less is more.
The Swiss watches are a master piece. But they rely heavily on marketing and branding essentially making them more of a jewelry , status symbol pieces rather than a tool.
I have been on a watch kick. I have bought Hamilton mechanical, Seiko auto (2) and a couple of Casio. Also my first solar Citizen eco drive. I have a Seiko 5 auto that I have had for twenty years, beat up but still runs well. I also bought a couple of LL Bean field watches and have been wearing them to work. Most of the watches I have bought in the last ten years have been Casio. What do you think of these brands. And if I thin out my mass buys how much will I loose? 50%? IMO the Citizen will do everything I need and keep the Bean for a work beater along with some old Casio.
Swiss quartz is not as a rule more desireable than Japanese, it's just that the japanese do all price ranges while the swiss stay away from the lowest end. The best quartz movements, both in absolute measures, and relative to price, are still Japanese. Edit: Oh, for a moment there I thought you said a Swiss movement is «more desirable than A Japanese one", as if in general, but you said "THE Japanese one", as in this particular movement. Well in that case you are off course right. My bad. I would however, indeed say that a 10$ Japanese quartz is more desirable than a 10$ Swiss quartz.
thats true.. im an absolut sucker for quartz watches, and the two most accurate watches im owned is for one a citizen (and therefor with a myota movement) and a jaques lemans with, you guess it, a myota movement. other movements, ronda, seiko or casio dont even come close
Here in 2022: I got a Linjer automatic thanks to this video, and i still love it in 2022. And i wear it, along with my Seiko SKX13k, Rolex Explore 1 and Nomos 101 and more
I have a citizen, it's nice and big , but I prefer my cheap digital watch. I don't have to worry about it getting broken with a big rubber case, I do however has to set it back to the time clock at my work every week. It's all what you like ! Just like you said.
To cut it short: - Don’t buy fashion watches. They usually are overpriced and not worth what you paying for them. - If you wear the watch nearly everyday then you can go for a mechanical watch. If you wear it occasionally then go for a quartz so that it keeps running even when you not wearing it. - You can’t go wrong with one of the following brands depending on how much you want to spend on a watch and for what occasion; Seiko, Citizen, Hamilton, Casio, Orient. Most of their models range from $50 to $500 so you can get quality in your budget.
Thanks for the tips. I am unlikely to ever pay more than $40.00 (including tax) for a watch though your explanation about the glass and leather made the video worth watching.
While citizens are a big name, I've had their eco drive watches for years and not needing to change the battery is a huge cost benefit in the equation of overall value. Especially with how cheap you can get them on sites like jomashop.
Should I get Brathwait watch as my first watch? I only want one watch and not going to wear it as a style, just want a simple clean watch that I can read time easily(what a watch should be) and good modern style. How about Linjer minimalist watch with tan leather strap? I like a watch with light brown leather strap and white face minimalist design, numerical number or bar dial both ok and if the second hand is yellow color.
Thank you for providing an honest accounting of watches Brock. There is nothing inherently wrong with quartz like you say. Im glad you acknowledge that fashion watches are usually overpriced for their quality. If you haven't checked out Urban Gentry's youtube channel, I highly recommend it. He reviews quality timepieces that have real history.
just to add to the point about Japanese quarts vs Swiss quarts, Japanese movements can be just as good. the Grand Seiko has a quarts movement that is off 5 seconds max per year which is just as good if not better than the Swiss quarts movements. in fact Seiko invented quarts movement. chineese movements are pretty much always very cheap budget movements, but when it comes to Japanese vs Swiss, you have to judge on a case by case basis.
Gregory LaPerche Honestly, rule #1 of buying a watch is buying one that you'll enjoy wearing without having regrets. That's what matters most, if u buy an Omega and hate it, why keep it?
Not quite. GS has three types of movements: Mechanical, Quartz and the Spring Drive. The Spring Drive is still a pure mechanical movement, but uses a quartz regulator to brake the seconds hand, keeping the time more accurate.
Nice video! Also check out Christopher Ward C5 595, sometimes they do half off on those watches which comes around under $400, for the money, you get a manual watch under 6mm thick. They are really well made as well.
The Linear is a MUCH better purchase. More refined size and better quality for sure, having the Ronda movement, Sapphire Crystal and screw back case. Good video.
3:55 Great video, but from what I have heard, a domed sapphire crystal actually has more shatter resistance than a flat one. It's not purely aesthetic, although it does look nicer in my opinion.
Great video!!! I have both. Got the DW from eBay rose gold metal band with black face for $79. Purchased a black band to switch it up from dressy to casual. Got the same Linjer shown in your video, navy with gunmetal case in the 34mm size for 15% off. A special they had. Love them both, but I agree the Linjer is absolutely the BEST quality.
My brother bought a fake DW for 3$ (when he was travelling) looks identical to the one in the video I would even say that the quality of both is not that huge of a difference 😂
Thank you Brock for your good advice. I have watched every video lol and the one when you talk about colors and matching them with your skin is worth so much. Keep going, you are helping people to improve. Thanks a lot! :)
Great info. Thank you so much. I wish I can find a semi luxury watch in a 38 mm? I just bought a Raymond Weil 39 mm. Looks a tad big. Any suggestions on how to shop for a watch that can look smaller so it’s not eating my wrist? I wish I could find a Baume Mercier in a 38
How about Tissot T085410A ? I got it for 260$ because i liked it visually but after watching your video i got a bit concerned about the quality of the band and the stainless steel. If sombody knows about watches could u guys tell me if it’s a good watch judging from it’s materials ?
Nice video. Wery informative. It made me look diferently on a few things about watches. I do however think that if the quarts movements gets the job done equally good, the cheeper one would be to prefer as it brings moore value for the money. Also 5he dials on the DW looked elegant and not as rough as the other brand.
What do you think about brands victorinox and swiss military hanowa? Are they good qualty and is either one of the brands noticeably better than other?
I bought a used Linjer Minimalist on ebay and it was a great watch and the domed sapphire was really nice. It didn't feel cheap. When the battery died I left it in a drawer for like 9 months. I tried replacing the battery and it still wasn't working. I also scrapped the copper coil on the movement while removing the battery. Don't know of it's completely broke but it isn't working lol. Guess I'll just stick it in the drawer and use my F-105.
well like others mentioned before me, if you want a nice budget watch look no further than Seiko, Orient or Citizen. In addition to this i would like to mention other notable european brands like Skagen , Junkers and Zeppelin. I think the last two are produced by the same company. I personally like the Swatch watches a lot i find them affordable (yes plasticky) but so fashionable.
Try not to mix in a Fossil brand in a recommondation . . ? Other than that do I agree. Just feel like adding that some of the problem with the other mention brands is that (at least the three first) dont offer minimalistic design (similar to DW). Junkers have minimalism, but are any of them under 40mm? Minimalism is as much about negative space as positive, and often minimalistic watch design are just blown up in size and it doesnt work as well. Which is some of the problem I have with DW.
My mom brought me a fossil watch as a gifr and so far have no problem with it. I plan to collect 3-4 more watches in the future. Any advice on which brands to choose? my budget is around $200 to $500. I have my eye on Orient and Tissot. Possibly a Longines that cost no more than $2000 (that's probably the most expensive one that I plan to invest my money on)
Not a fair comparison as DW can be had for around 75 bucks online while Linjer sell their watches for 3X the price through their website. Anyhow, both are shiny pieces of pure crap. If your budget is sub 200, look at Orient and Seiko.
True. Maybe you should have mentioned that in the video so people know that DW is not just lower quality but also much lower price. Funny thing is that you can find replicas of DW online for like 10 bucks that are of exact same quality as the real thing, probably made in the same factory in China too haha.
HellzAngelz...Very silly comment. Even saying more is not worth it. You obviously know f*%* all about watches and most certainly nothing about quality.
I love my Daniel wellington watch, I have worn it most days for a year with a suit and its been perfect but the leather strap does almost crack with use and discolours
Brock, thank you man, your video came about at the right time as I was about to purchase a summer fun Watch . Do you offer. Any discounts on those Linjer watches
I don't have much to say, but thank you. This video, among others, has taught me quite a bit about the inherent value per dollar of some of the watches I own, or am interested in. Subscribed.
Nice video. I just bought a really cheap watch similar to DW from Amazon the make is District London for £20 plain white face 40mm x 7mm black leather strap Japanese movement mineral glass stainless steel case. It looks identical to my more expensive DW watch!
I can't speak for Daniel Wellington, Brock..But the Japanese do make really really good quality movements. Such as Orient and Seiko. Which are both Japanese and highly respected in the watch world. I have an Orient Bambino, which has a Japanese In-house Movement, and it is an incredible watch for the value and quality and a fraction of the cost of either watch you showed here on this video.
If you're going to buy a more expensive watch than a Timex (which is a very good brand), Seiko quartz is the way to go. I have a basic Seiko I bought in 1984 that runs very accurately and looks like a champ. The newer one is a Seiko Kinetic that I bought in 1992 that looks great and is extremely accurate. In fact, I'm wearing it now.
Btw I just wanna add I'm a 5'7 guy and I have found all your videos (I just found your channel last week so I binge watched around 25 vids) very helpful, informative, honest and well made. You look like a genuine g who inevitably cares about the quality of the videos first and foremost and given the youtube fashion community I value that more than anything. Keep it up man! Greetings from Macedonia.
domed glass actually takes impact better than flat glass, so it's not purely aesthetics. With domed glass it's harder to shatter but more prone to scratches due to the raised profile :)
Just small correction, genuine leather is the name of all kind of real leather because there are semi leather/ PU Leather (action leather) where you put plastic/PU coating on the grain side & synthetic leather that consists of fabric & plastic. There are few types of genuine leather which is full grain leather, corrected grain leather, split or suede.. overall it's a nice input to determine the real value of a watch, thanks
i have two daniel wellington watches and have 2 reasons 1. in germany they cost under 100€ (little bit over 100$) 2. they are really thin its hard to find cheap thin watches and even in 40mm they are great for thin people but i agree they are not worth the original daniel wellington price unless you want a really thin watch
Good notes re: leather. Various nations have laws stipulating terms that describe the part of the hide ('full grain' must have the outer skin portion, the toughest and densest, even if it is skived or thinned down to a mm or two thick) and 'genuine leather' can be as he describes, basically ground beef, with a veneer of vinyl or acrylic which creates the finish, but will wear or dissolve away. Still, these appear to be much more about designer styling than durable watches, so fashion will always drive the price, and neither will be around in three years.
I’d be surprised if these brands weren’t around in three years. Many will die off, but probably not these two. Remember: every brand was new once, including Rolex and Seiko.
Okay, so the DW watch has inferior movement, leather and glass. By that I can assume the stainless steel is also inferior which is just a further indictment of fashion watches which are really just in the business for the money.
Watch strap is one thing I tend not to pay much attention to admittedly. I always just assume the watches in the price range I look at will be ok at best and I can swap them out for a nice nato for a few bucks or a nice leather strap for some more. The strap is easily replaced by the owner
I don't like Thickness of the cases on the traditional watches. Personally that is an important factor for me. Linjer has a quite thick case. I love that DW has a thickness of only 6mm.
actually, most minimalistic watches like linjer, brathwait, dw etc are more of aesthetic. Though its still subjective to one's taste. I personally like minimalist designs which is really simple and clean type like those linjer, brathwait thought i don't have one. I think its like different target market. If you're really into quality you wouldn't really buy these. but if you're into aesthetic only then its good. Names of the brand often displayed in the case also plays a part. I personally think seiko watch are ugly af. Especially the brand name itself SEIKO. Its just me maybe. but i do see some of seiko's minimalistic watch are really nice, just that the brand name makes it ugly for me. so i still think its subjective to one's taste.
Hello, Brock! Love your channel! I was wondering if you know of any watch company that sells watch frames, straps and main wristwatch parts as a mix/match set? Like Anson belts box?
@@BrockMcGoff yeah, I was just thinking of feasibility of something like that. But I'm no engineer. Anyway, if you don't know, probably it doesn't exist! Thanks for a reply! Keep up the great work.
Thanks! Quality wise, they're similar to DW (mineral glass, Japanese quartz, etc.). But they're cheaper at full retail, which I think is appropriate - although I don't know if anyone actually buys DW watches at full retail. Style wise, I prefer The 5th. I also like the brand more than DW. I've met some of the team, and they're really solid people (have even worked with them in the past).
blaze084 I recently bought a Melbourne White and Tan from the Fifth. Brock is spot on about the m using lower end straps. They look good (at least for now). Sooner or later the strap will have to go.This is the first watch I've bought in a couple decades so I'm definitely not a collector.
blaze084 I've only worn it 3 times but no scratches on face yet. The strap has slight creases already. I don't regret buying it but if you haven't ordered yours yet just keep in mind that the strap will need to be replaced. Cheers
You and others, where there is a hard hitting video capering cheap watches, that promote the consumption of over priced junk. And the thing with these watch companies, that actually state ie the movement. And you can speak with such sincerity.
I got (2) DW from Jomashop for 80 bucks a piece, and I'm fine with them. I bought em for Aesthetics - they look nice and simple and have appealing straps.
