i"ve been enjoying these bike loos vids. Not that I have a bike or anything, but its a nice change from the usual locks. Its funny, it seems wafer lock keys like this always seem to impress my non lock friends. They'll always pull out a key impressed with its two sides and say something to the effect of "look at this key could you pick the lock it goes to?" and usually its just a key like this one...
I tried to open this, and managed to pull it off. Its my first day of picking. I panicked when i could not fully close it again. The key did not go in all the way just like on this video. I obseverd carefully and seen how you placed the pick in again to the right and twisted. I tried closing it for an hour now but that twist worked like a charm.
I guess the idea behind this lock is to just have something small and light and good enough to secure your bike while you need a pee break at gas station or something to lock your bike with while you need to go to the shop to buy water/something to eat.
Just got one of these. Pick was extremely easy. Realizing you'd set all the pins and the locking bar was jamming everything up so tightly you couldn't turn the core.... Eh, little harder. Doh.
I bet I could cut through that chain with just a pair of heavy duty wire cutters, that file cut in fast and deep, that wire looks fully annealed, not the least bit hardened. On a positive note, if you lose your key you can probably defeat that with the Leatherman in your pocket. 😄
I got really stressed in the begining with the extra wafer at the back but once you know it really is no problem to pick it open. Had to rewatch my video on it to check if it was the same model :) Nice show as usual!
I had the same issue... I just started poking around in the back and found the extra wafer. I wish I had seen your video first. Not sure how I missed it... or maybe I just forgot.
@LPL, Similar lock to the older 2011-2016 Bordo 6000 that was donated to me without a key but much weaker mechanically. I have picked perhaps a dozen filing cabinets, car boots and luggage locks in the past and and it took me only 30 minutes with some coat-hanger wire and a broken felting needle thanks to the hint about the opposed wafer in your video. I was thinking to pick, open and buy blanks and make a couple of new keys to use on my bike but it had to be drilled out destructively. However it has very interesting serrated wafers and hinged sidebar (with two springs), if you would like the core I can post it to you, it is still pickable.
Sad how bad the Bordo got (not counting the big heavy Granit ones) I still own one of the early bordo locks with a key similar to the 75/30 and 75/40 padlocks and it holds up pretty well. A friend of mine has the same lock I have and it has saw marks all over it and survived a bolt cutter but nobody stole the bike...
Btw. Have you considered asking for donations to buy specific locks? If you had a website where people could donate a few $$ and you buy the most requested one. No give away. You keep it afterwards. I would really like to see you get into the Evva lcoks and do a "All I know" on the MCS.
Interesting thought... I'll consider it. Though, I am more likely to do something more generic, like run of the mill fan funding (in which you can certainly express preferences for locks in the future).
i got 3 6150 85 ,so sad it is weak like that,it is the lightest and expensive and the keyless lock i can find,i always think it is the king of bike lock,not the strongest but the right one for me
I lifted up both models to weigh by hand at a local locksmith shop and the Bordo Light wasn't even that much lighter than the standard. Not exactly sure what the weights are, but Abus *severely* affected security by taking such a measure.
Hey there. I just bought one of those because the U-Lock was too heavy and unwieldy and I just need protection for the time I'm in a shop. I don't think the metal you're seeing at the locking end is the chain itself, from the way mine looks it's just a thin sheet metal cover for abrasion resistance. Whatever is the real stuff protecting the bike is underneath. The Abus marketing blurb describes it as an "alloy", whatever it may be, but it's probably not steel.
I think you are incorrect. The exposed wire is exactly what goes through the entire link. If the "real stuff" is underneath, then Abus is lying about the thickness of the wire because what is exposed is the advertised 5mm. Not sure of the alloy, but it is definitely ferrous and likely steel. I used a magnet to follow the wire through the link.
They have some other stuff that's competent... but you will pay for it. When I lock my bike up, it has an Abus 14mm chain on it with a 37/80. Ironically, the combination is worth more than the bike.
I just watched a 2017 video with lab testing of most locks we know. Abus granite extreme was the overall best but is also very very expensive. Their granite plus was also in the running, a few kryptonite U's did well.
Larry Marrs - Well, the bike may "carry" the weight when you are coasting, but if you stopped your bike on your way up a hill and someone dropped a 100-pound weight on your bike rack, you'd certainly notice the difference when you tried to start moving again.
I have a pretty good idea whether I can open a lock when I buy it... Though in this case, I expected more of the lock considering it is advertised as having enhanced protection against picking, and I certainly didn't expect to find unhardened wire in the folding chain!
Perhaps... something like a bike chain tool. it would have to be SUPER heavy duty! Bolt cutter or a saw would be faster IMO, and would not require special tools.
could you do a review? of motorcycle disc locks, if possible? are they any good? or just put a plain, but strong padlock (u-lock and chain) on the brake disc? Thank you.
Could you try the the Bordo 6000. It has a hardened body and the elements themself are hardened too. As far as I'm aware it can't be bypassed either, but I'm curious about picking it.
The early Bordo 6000 2011-2016 had the same style wafer lock and after 2016 they have the ABUS Plus core. I picked the early wafer type as my first ever deliberate pick using DIY tools.
Wow the file marks it got after only some strokes were really a surprise. What about nano coating :(. Also a wafer lock is probably not something you want to see on a modern bike lock, pretty disappointing, even as an Abus fan. Very well picked anyway ;), but the lock seems not that great.
Very nice picking Mr. L I'm guessing a hack saw would cut through this like butter. I don't understand why lock companies just concentrate on lock mechanism instead of all this fanciness
probably still better than metall wire bike lock but man what a garbage. MSRP at 75 € selling for 55 € ... crazy. I have to reconsider what abus means by "low to moderate risk". Only pro on those locks is overall length in neat package for security I'd go with a D-lock or chain+decent padlock.
On guards brute should do fine unless LPL is out picking locks with Bosnian Bill. A thief would need an angle grinder to go through it if you've locked your bike correctly. Bike thieves dont tend to pick locks as it takes skill.
since that loop is not hardened, why can't you hold that bar and bend it back and forth with your bare hands until it snapped? in the locked position, of course.
i've never played with one of these locks so i don't really know how much play/slack there is between parts in the expanded looped position, i was just throwing out a simple idea.
Iam a bloody bloody lockpick noob. On my first try, i needed about 3 Minutes to open it with the Snowman. Wtf? I've already done it with a paper clip. The best bike protection is 2 bloodthirsty chihuahuas!
So they fixed one issue, then messed up somewhere else... if only they changed the spring loaded mechanism of the 5700 with this one... it would kinda bring best of both worlds :S
No, it's just my conjecture based on flimsy looking construction of the lock.it'd be interesting If you'll try to break it this way for whatever reason.
Why you call the 3 dollar lock the worst in the world?... i see no different in speed to unlock this one and if you buy 3-4 for cheap bike locks the thief needs much more time....i give up, if i see how fast you pick all kind of bike locks...
I dont understand why Abus would risk tarnishing their name of quality merely to gain some low end market share. There are plenty of other crappy locks on the market doing an awesome job of being crappy, they shouldn't their rep trying and be a Master, it'll only bite them on the Abus Ass.