I'm glad the thief who tried to steal my bike yesterday didn't watch this vid. I had it locked with this same lock. He tried to get through it with a cordless angle grinder. Lucky for me the building manager went to investigate the noise after a couple of minutes and chased him off. Only got half way through the lock. Good steel!
I bought the uGrip Bordo BIG today (10/18/20) for $80. After watching this video, I decided to look closely at the space needed to insert a shim and it appears that Abus may have made a modification to prevent a quick bypass. There is a metal shroud piece inside that’s cut to the profile of the male end, and as one would snap the male end into the lock, it passes through that metal shroud. The male end thickness is 5mm, and the opening is 4.4mm, leaving a space of .6mm or 23 thousands, but, given the profile of the shroud, angling a shim tool into, and beyond the metal shroud, would be tricky. This may deter, but if someone like LockPickingLawyer gives it a go, the bike is lost. I prefer keeping someone with the bike, as a $4 latte isn’t worth it. Thank you LockPickingLawyer for educating all of us (and that may include the lock manufacturer’s) that most locks can be defeated.
It’s really unbelievable how easy LPL makes this look. I’ve been picking for many years. I don’t remember exactly when I started but I can say it was before LPL started making videos. I got into it from Bosnian bill’s channel when he was on around video 500. I only pick pin tumbler locks, never tried to do dimples or disc detainers, it never appealed to me. With that being said, I have a pretty large amount of experience with locks of the style shown in this video, and I could definitely pick the lock shown here, but with nowhere near the ease that LPL can. I’ve put at least a few thousand hours into this over the last decade or so, and even still, I would need at least 5x the amount of time that he took to pick this. It would probably take at least 5 minutes unless I got lucky. Meanwhile, he navigates between pins with speed and precision that I just can’t match. The lock shown in the video has good tolerances, tricky bitting, and a less than optimal keyway, all of this makes picking a lot harder. With the way LPL picks, it’s like he has a camera at the tip of his pick and can see everything he’s doing inside with almost machine-like clarity. He just has a crazy amount of talent for this.
I think he's has a very very effective training regiment with hundreds of different looks two and he has visual representation in his head of every single lock in his head
Two reasons: Good locks cost more, bad locks are cheaper - to manufacture and buy. Engineering work to make a bad or decent lock that sells better is more profitable than a good lock that less people buy. If markets get a cheaper but good lock, it's not cheap for long.
I am fairly certain that their main concern isn't lock picking and by-passing. The main security issue is likely brute-force methods such as hammers, bolt-cutters and other tools.
I use this lock on my (quite expensive) Brompton folding bike, with which I commute to work daily, because it fits perfectly into a spot between the crank shaft and the saddle bar. None of the other Bordo folding locks fit there. That said I only actually use this lock very rarely since the bike is usually either in the shed at home or in the cabinet by my desk. On the rare occasions where I take the bike downtown I make sure it's locked onto something sturdy and in plain view of the public. The chain is just barely long enough to get it around a sign post and the bike frame which makes acces to it for picking or shimming very awkward in real life conditions. I still consider this lock super good enough for my application. I doid get the Bordo Granit Xplus 6500K on my other bike after watching the review on this channel. Thanks so much for sharing!
"we're going to do a couple things with this lock, First we're going to see if we can pick into this lock" LOL! as if there is any question that you could pick into this lock....
"This should be a tricky lock to open..." (25 second later) "And we got it open." That always cracks me up lol. You're either super humble or way underestimate your abilities
Hello I am German. I actually only watched your video to see in which direction the lock opens. Because my wife lost the key and didn't know exactly anymore. I'm not an experienced picker but every lock takes a long time. It took me about 10 minutes for the lock. If I had watched your video to the end I could have saved my time that and open it with a picker 😂🔓.
Well I have one of these and have enjoyed using it up until today. Abus is a good brand and I have seen videos how hard this lock is to cut.... but seeing the bypass trick....
I just bought the "Bontrager Elite" folding lock, which by every measure appears to be this same lock just with different colored plastic for a brand partnership deal. And I have to say, I can't seem to shim it open like this. I don't have a proper shimming tool that long and thin, but I gave it a shot by flexing open my swiss army knife tweezers and using one of the arms. The thickness of the metal compares to my other shimming tools, but no matter the angle I took I couldn't get it to go in. I've seen a couple of other commenters think that ABUS has addressed the issue and it seems like they may have as far as I can tell.
Well.... I have one of those locks - somehow I don't think I'm going to use it to lock up my bike any more. Thanks for making this video, and although I'm not riding at this time of the year, you may have saved me the cost and hassle of having my bike ripped off later this year.
these foldable locks seem to be aimed at consumers who like the novel design and convenience of it. Those type of people would be frustrated by a device on which the key needed to be turned to lock it.
This reminds me of old VW/Audi door locks. When worn, they open with ease with anything else *but* *not* the key they were intented to open with. Using the real key was a real pain in the bu...
Generally these are sold as part of a bike purchase 'upsell' with women's bikes where you can't mount a D-lock on the frame due to the lack of a top tube and no 'diamond' space for the lock to go. This is the main reason why bike shops stock the Bordo. The security level is fine and normally the bike is not locked up in the shed, where it gets stolen from.
I had my e-bike stolen last night. Had this lock on it. I thought there would be debris all over the pavement - but nope. Might as well have handed it to the thieves.
@@joshysmobilegamingchannel8186 An electricity-assisted bicycle. Easier to pedal, and thus easier to cycle farther and faster without running out of steam.
It looks though that you can harden this lock against the shim attack by adding/melting on some extra material to the locking bar to obstruct further where the shim would be inserted.
bill did a video on a Japanese lock similar to this that has a very similar weakness. i think on that one if one tac welded a washer on the end of the chain link right over the shackle hole kept the attack from being done. you are a great lock picker and can probably pick locks faster than most bike thieves can, so its hardly a fair demo of the locks real world resistance, though it could be much better. i think though for anyone who has this, the moght be able to use a similar aftermarket mod to shim proof this lock. if they can have a small piece of metal tacked onto the link right above the shackle hole, that should keep shims out. might not work though.
+metamorphicorder that might be a very good modification for anyone who has this lock. And I agree 100% that most bike thieves will not be able to match my speed in the real world conditions. In fact, I doubt I can reach the speed of this video in real world conditions. Picking on a desk and picking out in the wild are two different things.
I actually shouted out loud "OOOH, NOOOOO!" and immediately "YEEEEEAAAH!" when you shimmed that sucker open. Even though it's fairly easily picked and quickly shimmed, I do take comfort in seeing lots of different ideas for bike locks. There *must* be a good joke in there somewhere with the name "Bordo". I have no doubt the locksport community can bring the funny.
Amazing Video & Great Bypass LPL. It's such a shame because the Lock looks so good. I've just found the only way of Decoding the Squire CP Series of Padlocks that I know no one has already found and you can't use a Feeler Pick so I can't wait to feel well enough to do a video on it. Keep up the great work. Nick.
Really appreciate this! Keep on the good work. It is unbelievable how easy this is when you know what you are doing. And thieves, half their job is to know this
I have been using this lock on my expensive e-bike for years. Damn, I am lucky I still have it. :) I am pretty angry now, this was the most expensive lock at the shop where I bought it. I think I should send it back to Abus with a nice message...
For an e bike consider a heavier lock, the weight is less of a burden and you get better security. I prefer chain locks, in my opinion they are more secure especially if they can be wrapped around twice. in this way long shackle pad locks can be used to lock the two wraps together forcing a thief to cut more links or pick more locks. just cutting one link or cutting/picking one lock will not free the bike.
We know you appear to be one of the best lockpickers I personally have ever seen can you show us a video where it takes you more than a few seconds to open a lock or perhaps one that you had a very hard time beating or that impresses you? Love your Channel
Thank you for your work! I allmoust baught that thing today. Do you know if Abus ever did anything to fix that susceptibillity to shimming attacs on newer iterations of the 5700?
I bought this two days ago for my e bike now I’m tryna reassure myself that I didn’t just spend 90 AUD for some low life to come along and go through it like butter.
As a consumer who is about to buy a new E-bike, this showed as recommended on an old site. So where are the resources of actually good and tough locks to get through? Good website or brand referrals would be awesome. I live in the burbs, but crimes of opportunity and drug problems everywhere make solo rides tough as you do not have a back up to keep an eye on your stuff. Thanks for the education on what not to get.
LockPickingLawyer if you choose to buy their lvl 7 instead of lvl 15, aka bordo 6500. Same with samsung, they have flagship phones and budged phones, you get what you pay for
A real shame Bus dropped the 🏀 with this one😢😢😫 Bike locks like this one a appearing a lot and I think companies focus on what is wrong with the other one's out there and forget their bread and butter (the locking mechanism it's self)🤔🤔🤔🔓 Another interesting video,thanks for sharing 🤔😎👍👍😘
all these brands just live by their name. i dont think any major company gives a shit if some of their products are under par. they all become fashion brands.
Hi I have tried shimming this lock before and it was just as easy as you showed. but, now i have a new Bordo 5700, and it seems they have minimized the gap to be smaller than the shimming tool - smaller than 0.2 mm - i estimate it is around 0.15 mm. so now it cannot be by passed anymore..i would make a follow-up on this
That's the light Bordo, meant for quick stops, etc. E.G. run inside the coffee shop, with bike in view. For longer lockups, you would use the Bordo 6500 Granit X-plus.
That's true but a grinder is awfully loud and suspicious. Maybe in the middle of NYC it wouldn't be too unusual. I just want to do the best I can for moderate neighborhoods for short stops. I've seen here on youtube even hardened chains snap in a few seconds with a large bolt cutter, etc. So I want to concentrate on what I can, which is to get a lock that not so easy to pick, then I can make a choice about the chain. I really like the design of the smiley lock, but that was a shit lock otherwise.
Your voice sounds like one of those fish-characters in Spongebob. That aside, thanks for making this video. :) I was already considering this lock because Evans Cycles UK are selling this for about 35quid.
This lock should only ever be used as a second lock for the front wheel. A really good sold secure gold D/U lock or chain should be your main anchor point lock. Always secure your back wheel and frame to a solid anchor point with your best lock. The back wheel costs way more then the front so its more important to lock. I have three locks I use to lock up my bike, the Abus granite x plus 540 for the back wheel/frame/anchor, Onguard brute for the frame/anchor and a cheap ish folding lock for the front wheel/frame similar to this. Oh and a cable for my saddle. Its way Better to be safe than sorry.
It's level 7 security and is recommended only for low-crime and medium risk areas only. It's also meant to protect accessories not so much the bike itself. So... Not so surprised.
Ok can open with various tools obviously. I'm looking at a lock for bicycle touring. Something to lock my bike while I'm in a supermarket or away from my bike for short periods. Basically to stop the opportunistic thief. I'm thinking that one of the Bordo series models might do the trick. Anybody using these with success or had the bike stolen? There is a bike near my work locked with one, in the city, for weeks and hasn't been stolen yet. Thats encouraging :-)
Yeah, but then the key would be needed to lock it up. More secure, but less convenient for the user. What do you think the average customer for a cheap bike lock is going to notice more?
:( that's my bike lock, thankfully my bike is usually locked up in a secure, limited access area(complete with cctv), and when its not I have a U lock I use in conjunction ^^'
A friend lost the key on the version one up from this, I tried the shimming approach but no way! Abus has closed up the gaps on the housing. Used a grinder to go through one of the rivets. Even with the plastic case and the inner metal lock shield removed it still isn't possible.
hi :) are you planning to do a video on ABUS 6500? It seems that most videos about cutting and picking locks are made about cheaper ABUS bike locks. Just wondering how their flagship lock so to speak stacks up
LockPickingLawyer Hi, what do you mean beyond your skills? You picked this lock and found the flaw so quickly. Are the flagships really that much more difficult? Thanks in advance, because I'm about to buy a Giant E Bike for £2,600 lol. I've been looking at these Abus 6500.
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I just bought one today.... Which is getting returned tomorrow after watching this video... Any recommendations on good bike locks?
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