40k on a Budget: Thousand Sons

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In this video I will show you 4 lists for the Thousand Sons at 500, 1000, 1500, and 2,000 point values. I will also cover some of the reasons you may or may not want to start a Thousand Sons army yourself.
I do not own any of the art featured in this video. Art gathered was listed as Games Workshop Official Art. If I have used your art by mistake, please reach out and let me know.
0:00 Intro
0:13 Rules For List Building
1:46 Who Are the Thousand Sons
2:43 Pros to Thousand Sons
4:17 Cons to Thousand Sons
6:57 Army Rules
9:44 500 pt List
12:25 1000 pt List
13:34 1500 pt List 1
14:30 2000 pt List 1
16:20 1500 pt List 2
17:25 2000 pt List 2
18:21 1500 pt List 3
19:19 2000 pt List 3
20:37 1500 pt List 4
21:56 2000 pt List 4
22:32 Tiering and Outro
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Magnus the Red: amzn.to/3TUY8tA
Exalted Sorcerers: amzn.to/4aJEdEE
Ahriman: amzn.to/43OI2Gj
Infernal Master: amzn.to/3TQ4bPI
Rubric Marines: amzn.to/3TJnI4B
Terminator Lord: amzn.to/3VIALG3
Scarab Occult Terminators: amzn.to/43LHdxM
Tzaangor Enlightened: amzn.to/3PT55db
Tzaangor Shaman: amzn.to/4cDxiOW
Helbrute: amzn.to/3vF8WDW
Mutalith Vortex Beast: amzn.to/4b1jwnV
Demon Prince: amzn.to/43NiDg2

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Комментарии : 92

@rrohring1970 6 месяцев назад

“And also…. Magnus did nothing wrong”. That was great. Lol

@gangstalker47 6 месяцев назад

Need a budget guide to Dark Eldar asap.

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 6 месяцев назад

Soon(tm). No sense doing one for the worst faction in the game when they are OBVIOUSLY going to get buffs before February.

@gangstalker47 6 месяцев назад

@@Speeds_Gaming_Corner "obviously"? I guess I'm blind hahahah

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 6 месяцев назад

@@gangstalker47 Something would have to be seriously wrong at GW for them to not get buffs. I believe they're the only sub 40% win rate army at this time

@gangstalker47 6 месяцев назад

@@Speeds_Gaming_Corner Correct. They only win if they spam dark lances.

@gangstalker47 6 месяцев назад

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner You almost sold me on T sons with this video, btw.

@kylesteele9444 6 месяцев назад

Great video and as someone looking at getting into another army this year. Dont want to be that guy but letting you know. Check your chapter headings as for the Cons section it is saying Cons to Death Guard

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 6 месяцев назад

I fixed it up! If you see mistakes like that please be that guy! I would rather someone tell me a mistake so I can fix it.

@dratesdragetes777 6 месяцев назад

Damn the combat patrol is that bad lol

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 6 месяцев назад

It's traaaaaaash. If it had an extra 3 Tzaangor enlightened or a Tzaangor shaman in it it MIGHT be a pick up worth considering just how bad Tzaangor are.

@chrischavez4115 6 месяцев назад

As someone who's getting into 40k and bought the combat patrol, the box is horrible!

@SmileFaceGamer9982 4 месяца назад

yes

@rosel953 6 месяцев назад

I know that's neigh impossible, but i would love to see 'budget' ad mech.

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 6 месяцев назад

There is a reason Admech is its own tier.

@rosel953 6 месяцев назад

MAGNUS DID NOTHING WRONG!

@dratesdragetes777 6 месяцев назад

He did everything wrong

@colefrigm 6 месяцев назад

Magnus made a mistake, but, it was one that could have very easily been avoided with some communication from Big E

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 6 месяцев назад

The only thing Magnus did wrong was love his sons too much.

@cabellism 6 месяцев назад

If i just didnt get done with a Death Guard army, id be all over this. I was debating on which of the two armys to get into, and fliped a coin, it came up stinkys.

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 6 месяцев назад

Not a bad choice. Definitely my second favorite of the chaos factions

@cabellism 6 месяцев назад

@@Speeds_Gaming_CornerI had alot of fun painting and building them.

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 6 месяцев назад

@@cabellism The best part about painting Death Guard? If you mess up you just call it disease/rot!

@SuperNova-nl5eb 4 месяца назад

11:26 hold on, the rubric marines kits come with only 1 icon of flame, where am I supposed to get the second one from?

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 4 месяца назад

No one will really care/make your own from another staff head

@SuperNova-nl5eb 3 месяца назад

@@Speeds_Gaming_Corner what about the warpflame pistol though? do I just say that the bolter pistol is actually a warpflame pistol?

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 3 месяца назад

@SuperNova-nl5eb a pistols a pistol. Could also give him the hand sticking out casting sprue

@SuperNova-nl5eb 3 месяца назад

@@Speeds_Gaming_Corner ok, 1 last question, how am I supposed to build the rubric marine with the pistol? since the the pistol is the only weapon that is held with the other

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 3 месяца назад

@SuperNova-nl5eb not sure what you mean by the other. When I started my tsons I ran 4x5 to a gt with a rubric marine with a bolter leading a flamer unit and noted the bolted guy was the sorcerer and had no issues. Otherwise you have tons of bits from the exalted sorcerer box that can be used

@praise_kek340 6 месяцев назад

thank you

@Crowanor 6 месяцев назад

nice!

@alphshift7857 6 месяцев назад

I really like the fourth list, but to this day i struggle to find a Mutalith Vortex Beast on sale from both GW Stores or secondary markets

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 6 месяцев назад

I got mine from anycubic ;)

@phht0568 7 часов назад

My con for 1ksons would be all the metal trim

@kuriouskoopatroopa3129 6 месяцев назад

Subbed

@zappierfour5036 6 месяцев назад

hi i was just wondering so the 500 point list is 515 points what could you run so that it’s under? or will most players not care?

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 6 месяцев назад

My brain auto corrected the Exalted Sorcerer to Exalted Sorcerer on disc because I don't use any regular exalted sorcerer on foot elsewhere in the list. For 500 pts you run the guy on disc as a guy on foot even though he will be on disc model wise. If you run him as exalted sorcerer on foot its 500 pts on the nose.

@spiffymussel1537 6 месяцев назад

Mutalith vortex beast? You’d think it doesn’t exist considering it doesn’t seem to get restocked very often.

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 6 месяцев назад

I felt obligated to include ANYTHING that wasn't rubric spam given how every Tsons list is basically the same thing.

@w.mueller8183 6 месяцев назад

Thank you so much for making this video, I really needed some sort of guidance on what to get for my tsons army. Since you're a tsons player I wanted to ask some questions I have about the tsons and their list building. The first question I have is, is there a limit on what weapon a squad of rubrics can use, for example can there be a 10 man squad that all carry wapflames or is there a limit? And another question I have is can a rubric with an icon of flame also carry a soul reaper canon? Thank you again for the video and I'm sorry that I ask such questions.

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 6 месяцев назад

Don't apologize, feed the glorious chaos God that is the RU-vid algorithm! You can run 10x warp flamers if you like. You could run 10x inferno boltgun. You van run 7 of one 3 of the othern doesn't matter. The only thing is you can only have 1 aspiring sorcerer and 1 soul reaper cannon. The icon of flame isn't anything that stops you from equipping other wargear, so you can have it on whatever model you want. In general I always run a soul reaper automation in my rubrics, UNLESS it's ahriman with flamer rubrics. Then I will run them as a 9 flamers

@w.mueller8183 5 месяцев назад

@@Speeds_Gaming_Corner thank you very much, this helps me with what I can do.

@FlourEater 6 месяцев назад

as much as I love the TS (my main 30k army), their 40k roster is just... sad I guess. Personaly I am not a fan of any goats in their list and having "just" Rubrics and Scarabs as astartes infantry is just so sad. I wish they would have TS havocs, raptors, generic CSM units really. Magnus did nothing wrong.. Ahriman did everything wrong for the right reasons!

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 6 месяцев назад

I know what you mean. I would love to see more variety in the Tsons lists but the internal balance of the codex is just way too off with how important maxing cabal points is with how expensive all of the units inside of the index are. I would love it if the rules were a little less good so the army could come down in points by like 30%. Ahriman is my favorite lore character for that exact reason. Everything goes wrong for him when he tries to do good, and when he acts like a selfish prick everything goes his way.

@teejay1646 6 месяцев назад

Or just more unique daemons at least

@alf1712 3 месяца назад

Hey man, awesome video, I have the battle force from December 2022 and I was wondering, is it Magnus too overkill for 1k? Can I make a list with that battle force without Magnus? I also bought an Ahriman form hours heresy so can you help me build a semi competitive list with that? no magnus

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 3 месяца назад

Magnus is a massive amount of points from that battleforce box. Magnus is not overkill for 1k, but he might be hard for opponents to deal with. If you wanted a list without him, I would do something like 1x Ahriman on foot 1x Sorcerer w/ Umbralific Crystal 1x Sorcerer w/ Anathean Scrolls 1x Exalted Sorcerer on Disc (not leading a unit) 1x10 Flamer Rubrics 2x5 Flamer Rubrics 1x5 Bolter Rubrics. You'll need to buy one more box of rubrics for it, but you'll likely want that many in a list anyways.

@spruceforester3038 6 месяцев назад

I'm surprised you didn't utilize the combat patrol. was it because there were too tzaangors?

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 6 месяцев назад

The tzaangors are the big problem. But also Scarab Occult Terminators (as much as I love them) aren't a go to unit for Tsons right now. The combat patrol also not having a leader that can go with either tzangors OR Terminators means that its awkward to fit in anywhere. Tzaangors on their own are fine, but they just don't fit what the army wants to do right now. If you want cheap bodies that can hold objectives or do secondaries there are just better options.

@kuhio4232 5 месяцев назад

To throw in my two cents, I think it's okay if you like the models from a visual standpoint, they're just not optimal as of now. The box does often go on discount because people don't buy it, so I think if you can get it for roughly the same price as 5 Terminators and an Infernal Master, that's pretty good.

@pashaw3042 6 месяцев назад

You messed up on your time stamps your con is labeled “cons to deathguard”

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 6 месяцев назад

That's because Thousand Sons have no cons! (Thank you its been fixed)

@PanzerLord 28 дней назад

I entered the first 2000 point army on battleforge and it complained that I needed a Tzeentch battle line unit when I added the Changeling. Is this a strict tabletop rule, or a glitch with battleforge?

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 28 дней назад

It is a strict rule that was added as changleling + blue scribes were too strong. For every non battle line demon ally you want to add you need to include a battle line demon unit from the same god.

@PanzerLord 23 дня назад

⁠⁠@@Speeds_Gaming_CornerThank you; as a side note, does that make the third 2000 point army no viable? With battle line demons, it goes over the point limit

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 23 дня назад

@@PanzerLord you need to make substantial changes. I'd suggest looking at cultists/tzaangor enlightened to fill the role

@dimentiox80sshenanigans50 4 месяца назад

Out of curiosity, how well does Helbrutes work within an Thousand Sons list?

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 4 месяца назад

Helbrutes have their place as extra cabal point generation but I don't love them. Given that you need enough cabal points to cast the ritual in the first place they often wind up only being +1, maybe +2 cabal points. You can get the same thing from multiple characters who are less expensive. He's totally fine to run for funsies. You can 100% win with him in your list

@dimentiox80sshenanigans50 4 месяца назад

@@Speeds_Gaming_Corner Okay, thank you for the answer! I would assume keeping him near to various sorcerers would be the best placement for one?

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 4 месяца назад

@dimentiox80sshenanigans50 if he is not near multiple sorcers, you are not getting value out of him. You really need him to be near 3+ casts to get value out of him for his points, so being near a lord of forbidden lore double blanking saves is a good cheap way to keep it going

@dimentiox80sshenanigans50 4 месяца назад

@@Speeds_Gaming_Corner Okay, I think I have an mental image of how my 2000p Thousand Sons army will look now. Again, thanks for the answer!

@foxhoundms9051 6 месяцев назад

Those are two words you never see in the same sentence 😂 40k and budget

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 6 месяцев назад

Oh just wait until we get to Admech...

@foxhoundms9051 6 месяцев назад

@@Speeds_Gaming_Corner my buddy just admeched himself 😂 about $1 per point for a cool $2k

@bartj8058 2 месяца назад

I put your 500 pt list in the wh40k app and got 515 pt not 500. It is possible to have 500 pt but the Exalted Sorcerer needs to get rid off the disc.

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 2 месяца назад

This video was made before Tsons got some additional points nerfs.

@Grubnar 6 месяцев назад

So it is pretty much Herohammer, like in 2nd edition? No melee units? No fast attack? No tanks? Sound kinda boring if you are not a fan of Herohammer.

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 6 месяцев назад

Our melee is okay, but its lackluster compared to our amazing shooting. I have definitely killed things in melee that I didn't think I would. "Fast Attack" is dead, but we also have mid game redeploy and all of our units can double (or even triple) move. I have shoved magnus 42" in one turn before without advancing. That's pretty dang fast. Mutalith Vortex Beasts for better or worse are our "tanks". The problem is we want cabal points and tanks don't generate cabal points (and you don't generate them from inside Rhinos) But you are correct. This army is herohammer. It is likely an army that will always be hero hammer by nature of how Tsons have played in the past few editions and exist in the lore.

@Grubnar 6 месяцев назад

@@Speeds_Gaming_Corner Thank you for replying.

@gnet3359 6 месяцев назад

Hi i am new to warhammer so i was looking for an army to start at 500 points to play with some friends, but the 500 point army in this video comes out to 515 points when i use the battle forge app. 1×Exalted sorcerer=115 2 ×thousand sorcerer=190 2 xrubric marine squad=210 Total=515 I am probably doing some math wrong or using equipment incorrectly but i just wanted to make sure the 500 is still valid.

@gnet3359 6 месяцев назад

I think i just answered my own question, while you say exalted sorcerer with disk in the video in reality it is without the disk so it covers the 500 point limit

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 6 месяцев назад

Yea I say exalted sorcerer in disc because I flubbed my dialogue. I was planning ahead with the exalted sorcerer being built as an exalted sorcerer on disc because that is how he will be ran at future point values

@lucamartone4395 6 месяцев назад

Can you do one on tiranids? :)

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 6 месяцев назад

It'll be after the dataslate, but yes it's on the list

@tdlainc.4737 6 месяцев назад

Buy infernus marines and swap their heads with rubrics. Ban cheap warpflamers.

@kuriouskoopatroopa3129 6 месяцев назад

Please make budget necrons 🤖🧟

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 6 месяцев назад

It's on the table for after the balance dataslate alongside Tyranids and Codex Space Marines.

@kuriouskoopatroopa3129 5 месяцев назад

@@Speeds_Gaming_Corner will you be making budget necrons now? 😇

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 5 месяцев назад

@@kuriouskoopatroopa3129 They almost beat Tyranids for the first Codex army! Keep an eye out for the polls and they look like they might be next (unless all those excited Drukhari fans have their way).

@AdaptiveCaesar Месяц назад

Death guards combat patrol is objectively worse

@Speeds_Gaming_Corner 28 дней назад

I think the Death Guard combat patrol is actually not that bad. I would never want 2 of it, but its actual package contents are great for a starting point for the army on a competitive level.