The main service the lock picking hobby community provides is education on how secure any particular lock truly is. People put far too much faith in them. Secondly, they act as a quality control check on lock manufacturers. Some don't seem to care (ahem... master) but others obviously do look to the locksport community for information on how tough their products are and how to make them better in future.
@@stoutlager6325 what!? ... theres a 'locksport' community? Really? So theres an Olympics of Locksmiths and Lockpickers? Googling the ass out that right now....
I actually can’t charge less for work at my location _(Taxes, Regulation, and Overhead)_ and not lose money Gregory S Hutchison. But it is a money maker.
I don't know, 1 ton really isn't a lot. 50 lbs at 10 inches is 1000 lbs at 1/2 inch from the fulcrum. If you consider the small area which the blade in pushing on, well a petite woman in pointy heels has more ground pressure than a semi truck. I say 50 lbs, I can put out close to 120 with 1 hand, 240 with both. A strong 10 year old can squeeze with 50 lbs.
@@Kari-tu3fs Would bending the cable really be a bypass? Then, If I were to nitpick, doing a second cut after a successful one could probably also count as a bypass. As the plastic and shielding shackles are more prone to sliding apart. Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate what he is showing here. Not trying to antagonize, just offering a thought. :)
ide use a torch lighter on it and it would melt the plastic if u want also dunk it in water or oil after red hot and it should make the steel brittle af
This was my first thought. My second was that I have some real bolt cutters in the garage that would eat them all alive. I don't even have a lot of tools. I feel that two handed bolt cutters do a job, at speed, that nothing else can do. Don't go without.
@@Kari-tu3fs I'm convinced you're not cutting through the armour here. The stronger you squeeze, the armour elements push against the plastic shielding further down the chains, forcing a gap and exposing the raw wire at the point of the cut. I think that's why subsequent attempts on the same shackle went smoother, not because of a larger tool. My guess is that the key here is the thickness of the plastic shielding which does not allow armour elements to compress. Taking this into account, a valid strategy might be to cut the plastic somewhere along the shackle and then attempt cutting through the armour again.
We can always depend on Master Lock to be #1, too bad it's always on the wrong end of the scale. Perhaps their slogan should be... Master Lock; always the best at being the worst. Or maybe...Master Lock; We're the first in failure.
They can't even get that right as there are plenty cheap Chinese locks pinned so bad you don't need a key or even worse; the ones you can open with a bic lighter.
I don't see what the issue is - Masterlock is great at marketing and are the most recognized name in locks. They don't care about making decent locks, they care about making lots of money.
Stops a child from operating a firearm. I always thought the ONLY use was to protect children. I didn't think anyone seriously considers using these locks for security
The only thing I use mine for is transporting my firearm to the range because it's legally required to be locked. If there were kids in my house I may use it for that too, but there aren't so what isn't in the safe stays loaded and unlocked.
Their only use is to fool politicians and activists; who couldn't even tell you what end of the gun makes the loud noise. Yet insists they know what laws should be in place.
Robert Zimmerman Thankfully some have enough sense to understand that guns have the potential to stop a threat. Arm yourself with wisdom as well as a firearm.
one issue with testing other cutters after the lock has already been cut... the armor plating is held in place by tension and works by the plating not being able to move. Thus making the lock stronger. After it has been cut, the plating just moves away and any cutter will have a LOT easier of a time getting through, seeing as the armor plating is technically out of the equation :) If I'm missing something, let me know ^^
I think it's always important to keep the angle grinder in perspective. Obviously it's not always the right tool, but before I owned one I didn't have a clue that you could literally just cut through any lock
@@lockpickinglawyer I think if you just take it a bit at a time, getting the plastic first, then digging through the layers bit by bit, you could get it relatively quickly with a bit of practice. Especially if you did what someone suggested in the comments and bent the cable very hard to reveal the cable underneath.
Have you ever strained a muscle in your hand doing that? I have, it's no fun. I also have a pair of linesman pliers like that, older than yours. ( the plastic is more brittle) Uline makes a cutter for the wire cable security locks that go on the doors of transport containers. They are VERY good.
The easiest way I've found to break these locks off is to get the shackle snuggled up in a vise flush with the lock body and give it a firm side on whack with a good size hammer. These things are really meant to keep curious adolescents out of trouble more than anything else.
@@MoundN That druggie breaking into your house? He's off his rocker on PCP, and he ain't going down without a .45 through his chest. Rabid animal? That thing is going to kill you or your child if you dont shoot it *now* Firearms, because when you have seconds, the police are only minutes away.
@@Mr-Trox Mr. Trox I don't know. It's something that I simply don't emphatize with that easily as someone whos not born in america I think. I do get your points but I also know about the damage such easy gunlaws can cause. I mean, I live in a society were its completely normal to live without guns and Im feeling completely safe. Never have I ever heard someone say they feel unsafe because they cannot carry a gun. It's completely normal here in Germany. For the case about the rabid animal a simple knife could do just aswell ontop of that how many rabid animals are there really that you need to worry about ur children? Things like that would entise me to move away from that location. It's not always possible i know but then again you do what you gotta do. Either way I see the benefits but i also see the enormous drawbacks of those easy gunlaws and I'm generally a person who doesn't support gun ownage in any way unless its due to military. Just how I feel tho, might be due to cultural differences.
@@MoundN Yeah, definitely cultural differences. Guns are part of life in America. Law abiding citizens losing their rights because of criminals is something most Americans dont take kindly here. It's tied into our cultural patriotism that from I learned from some German transfer students I met in school said they dont really have. As for rabid animals and such, it was an example, and a knife wouldnt do you much good to avoid being scratched or bitten by the animal, which considering it's rabid in this explanation, is something you want to avoid at all costs. Kids around guns isnt as huge a problem as the media would have you believe. I was taught gun safety before I was even allowed to touch a BB gun, let alone a firearm. My niece was taught gun safety before she could read, it's a simple few lessons you give your kids and emphasize that guns *are not toys* they are dangerous tools not to be touched or interacted with without adult supervision.
For the mini bolt cutters if I may reccomend knipex in the future. I'm a mechanic by trade and as far as any type of pylers go knipex makes a superior product even to snap on in most cases. I really enjoy your videos. Thank you!
Funnily enough, I had a key break for one of my Regal locks, and removed it using an identical pair of line cutters! I knew they'd at least get through that one. Great video!
Bike cable locks are a wimpy joke. Thick ones, skinny ones, fancy name brands... Cable locks aren't going to keep your bike unless you live in a low crime area. Manufacturers make them because people buy them. Bike shops sell them because people buy them. I've worked in plenty of bike shops for long enough and people will ask for a cable. I'll tell them that if you want to keep your bike get the $40+ U lock. Customers proceed to buy crappy cable lock. Then they'll be back in the bike shop a few months later to buy another bike after the cable lock was cut. I've probably experienced this scenario nearly 50 times. It is what it is.
@@mikekrasovec6390 Sadly true, I lost a nice bike parked right in the middle of my uni campus (outside the main library) in broad daylight. I'll never know if they bypassed/picked the cheap lock or just cut the cable, but whatever it was it must have been fast. Lesson learnt.
I tend to use a Kryptonite lock if I ever have to leave my bike anywhere, but it would be nice to have a high quality cable lock so I don't have to carry a 2kg lock around when I know the only time I'll be leaving my bike alone is outside of a coffee shop where I can see it the whole time but can't bring it in with me.
Gun locks are primarily intended to prevent children from accidentally discharging a firearm and harming themselves or others. Children would not have the tools or knowledge to get through even the thinnest gun locks on the market.
I love how he’s saying he’ll see how tough they are, then holds up a precut chunk to display the construction. It’s like when someone in the theater shouts out the ending of the movie 5 minutes in.
electrical cable shears actually are to some degree able to cut things harder than copper or aluminium, because they also need to be able to cut ground cable, usually armored with galvanized swa steel. Which is relatively soft but i suppose harder than aluminium and copper. These steel cable shears are way different from cable shears, they use a huge leverage, a small cable wouldn't even fit in and an electrical cable shear would not have enough leverage to cut steel cable.
I can easily cut any of those locks with my dedicated Swage Tool , it's meant for cutting cable and crimping Alum Ferals , I've made better cables for locking up guns than any these lock companies can come up with . If you buy a $1000 plus firearm why the hell would you use a $10 lock to protect it ?
The key with attacking these quickly is to remove the plastic cover that holds the scales together, and getting to the wire in between. It is not good quality, and it is never braided. You can get through it with a hacksaw.
Whenever i have to cut one of those POS locks i just bend the cable and then cut it. The scales move out of the way and all thats left is the rubber and twisted wires
Great video. Number 4 (sig sauer) was really binding :D I love the cable cutters and use them to cut everything. I have a a 2 foot long set that can fit about and inch diameter... they will CHOP in half nearly anything you put in them.
When I hauled high value freight, cable seals were common security. I once had to remove a seal for a customer who had no means to do so. It took me 90sec to remove two 1/4" cables with a residential grade hacksaw!
I've broken my own locks after losing my keys. I used a method similar to the wrench method except I replaced the second wrench with locking pliers and simply pried up. It worked for Kimber, S&W, Glock, police issue, and a very expensive one I bought at a show. Keep track of your keys!
honestly, I haven't purchased a gun because of my two young boys. I can't express how scared I am of them getting hurt by something I brought in to the home. This project lock greatly increases my confidence. thank you LPL!!!
The responsibility that comes with being a father and husband is the number one reason to not just buy a weapon but learn it and teach it to the family you protect.
If you have the firearm and it is not connected to any stationary item preventing portability, try placing the linesman's pliers in a vise to provide additional force. I think you will be pleased with the result. I have used this method on other more conventional items. Keep up the great work! Thank you for sharing.
My thougts on a decent use for the Sig Sauer would be to lock a bike seat to the frame of the bike. They are easy enough to replace, but it'll provide some sense of a barrier from it's theft. Then lock the bike with a 2-3 choice locks.... Wheels to frame with Forgetaboutit U-locks, and a nice thick chain to secure the frame to whatever it is you're securing the bike to.
the fact that he says he's gonna stop at the mini bolt cutter before he even begins tells me a $20 tool will defeat the lock that came with my $600 pistol
The reason why the "Kleins" (the linesman's pliers) did so well is that they have a pin which is offset closer to the jaws of the pliers. You can see the placement of the pin on the Kleins @2:07. This gives you a lot more leverage. The needlenose and sidecutters have there pin in the center.
Once you cut the first lock you can use the gun to remove the rest of the locks. Nice work on the wide selection of tools to break the cable. If you still have the lock bodies I'd be curious to see you wedge the lock against a solid backer with a chunk of wood and hit it with a hammer, (improvised attack in a somewhat confined way as if the gun was still attached). I suspect that even with a half hearted strike or two with a 20 oz hammer the lock would come apart. Even if you have tossed those locks I'm sure you have a few laying around, (I have a whole shoe box of the useless things and have a hard time just throwing them away).
+John-Paul Silke The lock bodies are surprisingly robust. And the locking mechanism's are solid. You certainly could open it with a hammer, but you would probably do some damage to whatever it was locked to.
I love your big pliers - old and hefty. Nice colorful locks and very interesting testing sequence. But I have a question regarding the cable armor. What if you bent the cable, would the wire protrude and is this then any easier to cut or saw through? Once I had a bicycle lock where this worked out pretty good ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LwuSB725wks.html
Those big pliers are very old and better than any modern counterpart I've ever seen. As for the armor, IF you could get the cutters between the links, it would help quite a bit. but here, that didn't seem possible. I did some testing and cutting of one apart first and wasn't able to execute.
LockPickingLawyer the brand your looking at is called klein. Klein is still available made in the usa and high quality. You can get them at home depot. You do pay extra for klein tools though. Quality is not cheap.
I'd go for Knipex for linesmen's pliers if you're going to be putting them through heavy use. They're more expensive than Klein, but better built. Get ones with nice handles to avoid hurting your hands when you give them a really good squeeze.
You could certainly bypass the armour with some work. However their strategy seems to be that it would take longer to bypass the armour than it would to cut through it. Peeling the plastic off and shuffling links about to make a gap seems like a lot of work when the correct tool could get through in seconds. Sad that they're actually planning on the lock being defeated in seconds to minutes but there we go. As for tools, I'm split between two minds. I've got a large set of my grandfather's old tools and they certainly made them good and proper, but at the same time metallurgy and manufacturing has also improved. The prices have come down and the designs are better. If they stopped trying to cut every corner and make it to the bare minimum cost modern tools would stomp older ones, but until they fix the industry I'm going to keep my ancient set and clean off the rust any time I need to use them.
I'm amazed at how many people don't understand there's literally a tool for everything. Bolt cutters work very well at cutting through things like... locks. You can even get them in ratchet-form. Also, use leverage, i.e. put one handle on a stable surface
@@dedley2664 - I looked around and found 12 pin locks and even a 22 pin lock. My best guess has to do with the the Key. The key has to be able to interact with each pin, which means a bigger and/or longer key for every pin. 6 pins is a very common choice because 3 pins is less secure I'm guessing.
Is there a difference in cable diameter or the cable protection pieces? Once you cut the cable, those protection collars will be able to separate and make the second cutting simpler, Yes?
I've opened one with just a screwdriver. Pop the hull in a vice and use the screwdriver as a lever through the loop, and twist the cable until it's so tight that it sheers the cable. Took minimum effort to free the Glock box the lock was attached to (opened for original owner who showed a receipt with the same serial number on the gun).
Try Klein cutters/snips also know as wire cutters. They cut cable like butter. Klein tools are outstanding. Less effort and force to cut. Just a thought.
Ryan Quirk electricians cutters like the kleins have unhardened steel as they are designed for cutting copper and aluminum conductors not steel it will dick up the cutting edges.
I think what's happening is you're applying enough force to stretch the cable and slip down through the armour plates, snipping the little baby cables.
These locks are not suppose to keep adults from accessing the firearm they are to keep children out as well as accidental discharge. Children rarely walk around with bolt cutters.
I bought a truck with some beefy bike locks on the ladder rack, kinda similar to these. Couldn't get through with the dykes until i set once side on the truck and hit the up side with me mallet, then went right through.
Put one of the handles against some surface then you can put alot of weight on the other handle pressing down you can basically put your whole weight on it. You get ALOT more force that way
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