Also, before he started explaining how (relatively) hard it is to pick, he pointed out that shimming and such would still work. So, these 30 seconds were doing it the hard way.
Yuuto Amakawa before I started watching lock picking videos I thought master lock was one of, if not the best. I watched these videos and I was amazed and kind of excited. At work we had a locker that had been unable to be used for like 6 months. I reclaimed with two paper clips. We beat the hell out of the lock with a hammer too to no avail. I took the locker and let’s just say masterlock is not on it.
@@FerunaLutelou The engineers care. Thats how locks like this get made. But the sales department sends the drawings back with a note "need to make at 60% of cost," and another young engineer becomes more jaded
@@mattm3023 I was told by a director of a government department to build a system with no security, because it would be cheaper and determined hackers could get in anyway. That was only a few years ago. On another system which you could use to literally write your own cheques I was asking the designer how the system got the automatic login credentials to the finance system. He said it uses this command here, login:=userid/password. Yes I said, but where does it get the userid from. He pointed at the code and said, it gets it there. It's userid. What about the password then? He pointed at password and said there. Seriously the userid was userid and the password was password. Talk about hiding in clear sight. No-one would believe that the security was so bad, and would never try that. Except for the head of accounts. He didn't even go to jail.
I have been watching so many of these and a few things have just dawned on me: 1. I have no fucking idea what he is talking about. 2. His calming voice has lead me to believe that words like 'binding' are terms that i understand. In reality i have no idea what that means. 3. I have no idea why i cant stop watching them despite having no clue what it all means. 4. For some reason i really enjoy hearing him talk on and on about things i will probably never understand.
Same here. Whether in the middle of the day and just want to listen to something distracting and yet engaging or late at night (like at the time of this comment) and want to fall asleep listening to a soothing interesting commentary, LPL is truly an amazing experience.
When you tension a lock, you're turning the barrel a little so that the inner and outer sections of the lock aren't quite aligned, which makes a little ledge that you can get the pins to catch on. Because the pins aren't all aligned exactly the same, usually one pin will "bind", that is, it's tight in its slot because it's the only pin holding back your tension while the rest move freely. So the binding pin is ready to be picked; if you nudge it into the right position, it'll "set" as the barrel rotates just a hair further, and another pin will become bound and ready to be picked.
@@ollierinko9387 Unfortunately, I don't think that is possible. You need a key inserted to enable the re-key function, he says so around the 5:00 mark. If in some way you could defeat that mechanism then I suppose you could re-key the lock with said paper clip.
Jonathan Fairchild you can definitely pick to rekey. You don’t need the key inserted to rekey, you need the key inserted to turn the core away from 12 (closed) and 3 o clock (open/rekey) positions. And as demonstrated in the picking, you can defeat that by picking specifically it.
I was a toolmaker for 25 years and never knew there was a "c-clip remover" tool. But we used to call them "Jesus clips" because when you popped them off with a small screwdriver, you'd always say "Jesus, where'd that go?"
Don Moore Can deconfirm, engineer who’s helped out in machine shops that used C-clips in design before. The tools are known outside of locksmithing circles...but probably not outside a small number of other specialized engineering fields.
We already have a lock design that, at least as far as I know at the time of writing, still has not been picked by LPL. That lock in question is the Bowley lock, which is already a very unusual design on its own. Check out LPL's own video on it, for context: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qV8QKZNFxLw.html Personally, if anyone were to design a new highly pick-resistant lock, I think something that explores the Bowley's design choices and takes them further could be very promising indeed.
LockPickingLawyer that there is. Maybe a topic for a video sometime in the future? Loving your vids btw, clearly spoken, crisp video quality and always something new to learn for a budding locksmith like myself haha
Well some people laugh at these analytic types but I appreciate them. He’s a master at this as I can tell anyway. When you love what you do it’s not a job. 🙂 People like him are why we come to RU-vid and anyone in this comment section that are making fun of him are pretty much brain dead. (steps off soap box 😂😜)🤙 Keep it up buddy!!!
I was watching “worlds toughest prisons” in the U.K. and a prison in Mexico was using individual master padlocks on the cell doors and I thought to myself “I bet the lock picking lawyer would be outta there in seconds!”
oracla To be fair he had to have complete understanding of how the mechanism works before picking it. I doubt some theif off the street would buy a duplicate, then take it apart to see how it worked before picking your lock.
not really, I'm tired of hearing this argument. you simply need to grip the lock and do the exact same thing. Once you know how it works, it is what it is and if you know how to pick it, you can.
+Gabzo Avro Not true, at all. Not being able to hold the lock EXACTLY how you like, can easily make the difference between a 10 sec pick and unpickable.
"We're gonna ignore the normal master lock vulnerabilities, things like shimmying and rapping. Rest assured those are still present with this lock" Oh thank god. I was worried the universe was broken for a second. Don't scare me like that.
"I'm going full lock nerd so I'm probably losing some of you" Why do you think we watch your videos LPL? The lock nerd bit is what has drawn me in for sure, it's so cool hearing you talk about different locks and designs and the history behind them!
Couldn't this core be used in a beefier padlock with a bottom plate that restricted the access to the side bar? That would make a much better padlock then, right!?
I used to repossess cars in the early 1980's, and the owner of the small firm I worked for used to say that those side bar GM ignition locks were un-pickable... for the reasons you state here. I know I never did. I would use all sorts of techniques, whatever was appropriate, for different vehicles and gates and so on: Picking, cutting keys (when the code was still find-able... as you know many cars would have it on a label in the glove box, or stamped on the passenger door cylinder), slide hammer as puller, and the hardened "socket" with breaker bar (would simply shear all the pins and turn the cylinder. "CRUNCH"). But the GM locks, we didn't even try picking. Since then, because of that, I often wondered why side bar mechanisms like that were not used in padlocks and so on. But there you go! Now I know they do in some. Love your videos... very interesting and informative. And you keep the lock companies on their toes, I'm sure... and only help improve the state of the art by revealing the weaknesses.
@1:45 - *"I am going full lock nerd right now"* - And that is why we watch. Lock Nerd on one side, Lock Destructor on the other. I'd enjoy a good port with you, my friend.
You just blew my mind. I had no idea that Master lock had anything this interesting. And then ... I experience that moment, when you accidentally walk into a meeting of Lock Nerds Anonymous, and then you realize you ... belong there.
@@derekdacus4437 He makes it quite clear he is a "Lawyer", so it is obvious he knows his legal rights here, and so do they. But unless you are implying assassination, I doubt he runs any risks. He doesn't show his face because there is no need for it, and this is one of the reasons this channel is so great. It isn't one of those 'selfie channels' with dudes smiling at the camera and wasting our time with their egos; this guy is great, and he is wickedly articulate with an amazing command of the English language, which makes this channel especially interesting. I love hearing his discourse, and subtle, sarcastic sense of humour.
Insanely idiotic. They make cheap locks. If they wanted to make an unpickable lock they’d use precision machining and quality materials. The fact that this lock is difficult to pick and cheap to make is actually a really good thing for the CEO.
Wow, thank you for tutorial! I was FINALLY able to pick this (my son's lock) after almost 3 months. He lost the keys and well, neither of us wanted to pay for it to be fixed. The hardest part was that little button!
So far I noticed MasterLock always leaves 1 flaw in their locks. It' a different flaw across the range but there's always 1. Part of me thinks it's intentional in case you need to call a locksmith.
I would need some help of drawings or so, as I didn't get how this rekeying works. Also not sure why standard tension won't work here. I guess not my level yet ;-)
@@ziomalZparafii Looking over the video again it looks like the brass plates sit upon the teeth of the key (9:01) like a pin would. Those plates have slots in their spines that fit lock like a puzzle piece into the rekeying sliders (8:26). Those sliders hold the height for each bit on the key, and they only move when you are re-keying as they are otherwise locked to "imprint" the key. The reason you can't use only a tension bar to turn the core is the piece that prevents you from re-keying to a key with no bitting (7:18). If there is no key depressing that piece at the back, it will stick out and stop the core from turning. I am no expert, and sadly I have not practiced lockpicking for a while but that is what it looks like is happening to me.
Have almost no idea what he is talking about as he intricately takes apart then proceeds to pick a complex lock... virtually all of the vocab goes completely over my head! It's beautiful.
It's really too bad that companies that specialize in making locks don't do the best they can. This one is proof that Master can do far, far better than it almost always does.
if any lock company would just use the reverse sidebar lock design, without the rekey option then it should be extremely hard to pick that lock, no binding, no picking. provided its not made of cheap metal or plastic!
You can accomplish that by grinding the dovetail off the locking bar. Maybe better suited for their dead bolts where you're not destroying the lock to get to the cylinder core.
@@Derpy-qg9hn He did say the usual flaws of Masterlocks like shimming are still present, he just chose to ignore them. It's better sure, but not what I would call a decent lock. They also managed to make one of the most pick resistant core structures on this channel pickable in 30 seconds or less.
@@ghostderazgriz Agreed. I'd add for context (mostly due to other commenters' remarks here) that 'pickable' is really dependent on skill set; I think the 10k hours to mastery rule applies here, this isn't an easy task especially with sidebar locks, I can't manage them (yet) despite having the proper tools (seen here in LPL's video and the Kwikset ones) and a fair bit of practice. It takes more than a little practice to open the most common standard, non re-keyable locks via single-pin picking, i.e. not raking or bypassing... which is why I go in the exact reverse order of that when trying to open a lock I'm new to. Which is why it is fun....
When I watch older videos of him putting words like "pick resistant" and "master lock" in the same sentence, I always check the date of upload to see if it's the 1st of April...
Really nice pick, loved how you found the to tension the side bar, now it would be great to see master lock take notice and improve this lock as suggested.
These longer LPL videos remind me of Forgotten Weapons videos, the ones where Ian will point to some tiny metal nub and be like "see what this is doing there? That's what causes this to do this" and me just sitting there completely lost.
I'm not a lock picker, but I do re-key all kinds of locks. I received my first lock picking kit a few days ago from Amazon. After watching the way you finesse these locks open. I was able to pick the acrylic lock (taped up of course) within 4.5 minutes. To my surprise I got even faster on each attempt. It's like using the tip of the pick as an extension of you fingers. After that I picked 2 master locks, and my house lock. Thanks for sharing your expertise! :-)
You truly are a master of lockpicking. Id say the best in the world. Your knowledge of how to manipulate every single lock the comes in your path is insane. Keep it up man
I can pick some locks. I don’t mean to toot my own horn here but I’m an absolute MASTER at the clear one so I’m basically a professional. Lol. Honestly I can pick simple pad locks. That’s about all I’ve tried but this dude.... this dudes on a whole other level. This guys is a legitimate wizard when it comes to locks. Fascinating to watch how fast he’s able to pick them open. Love the videos my guy. Keep em up. Keep blowin my mind 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
I think its interesting that Master Lock is using its own history of crappiness to enhance security. If I were just given this lock and not told what it was, it would probably take me a long time to figure out it wasn't even a pin & tumbler lock. I know when I first started picking locks I exclusively used rakes, and on Master Locks they worked really well. I'm wondering if the tolerances on this lock are poor enough that it couldn't just be raked open in a couple minutes. You might not even have to know about that button if its placed where youd be bumping it all the time.
Raking would be very difficult, though I will not say impossible. Recall that the General Motors reverse side bar locks sometimes were defeated with Auto jigglers.
Considering there are currently about 1,200+ videos all about picking locks, im fairly certain it's safe to say that we could listen to you go lock nerd all day.
Great camera work and excellent narration as usual. I liked the in-depth explanation of the locking mechanism, you've certainly got it sorted! Masterlock pah! I might get a couple of their training locks, its good that they make em for us to doss about with.😋💨😁
I've found chinese locks that just use a spring at the end of the keyway to open the lock, so all you have to do is stick anything straight into the lock and they just pop right open. At least Master Lock has THEM beat.
I just bought a cheap pick set. I never picked a week ago. You make this seem like the most interesting hobby in the world! I don’t know what I’m doing with my life.
1:44 the main reason why i watch and love your videos is because i love locks and the world of companies and thieves, im hoping once i get further into highschool i can even learn locksmithing to explore that "world"
Wow initially I actually thought that core would've given you a little more trouble. It seems to be a nice core executed poorly by Masterlock, notwithstanding the other vulnerabilities you pointed out early in the video. Great info and great exploitation of Masterlock's oversight of that core. How much harder would that core have been to pick if that side bar exploit was not there? Do those slider pins make it any more difficult as opposed to regular pin sets? Thank you for all the time you spend educating us...
LPL -- are you familiar with the similar, but "heavier duty" Master Magnum M532XKADLH (M532) re-keyable version that does have a dual ball bearing locking mechanism, hex boron carbide shackle, and typical bottom plate core retention thus making the core easily removable when unlocked. I believe this is the same core -- Not sure this model is available anymore (I picked up two at local Home Depot several years ago)
I’m very familiar with it. Been trying to find one for a couple months! It is the same core. And I would like to see if the same vulnerability is present in this lock.
Tried to find this lock #18 finally called master lock and they said they had no master lock #18 where do I go from there. If you bought it from amazon what model no. did you order. Thanks
I remember training on Masterlocks back in the early 90s and never had a problem picking them. I am nowhere near as good as you are, but I want to learn again some day.
just you guys know, this lock can be opened with two shims. I'm sure lpl knows that since he mentioned ball bearings at the end, but I didn't hear him actually say that shims would work in the video.
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