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4th Gen F Body Door Panel Removal and Crack Repair 

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Removing the door panel on our 2000 WS6 and removing the staples that hold the window trim in. This alone can relieve partial cracks and can help to close a full crack.

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@joedq
@joedq 2 года назад
Excellent how to video. I have several things to fix on the 95 Camaro I just picked up, glad to see a slow paced video, so I don't tear something up while repairng something else. Changing the power window motors are going to be a pain. Thanks again.
@000firebird
@000firebird 3 года назад
6 minutes is all I needed.. appreciate you man. GOD BLESS
@neil139
@neil139 6 месяцев назад
Super helpful video. Thanks for walking thru the whole process. Headed out to the garage to work on my panels now...
@kimosabbe50
@kimosabbe50 3 года назад
Thanks for taking the time to show this step by step ... appreciate it!
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 3 года назад
no problem! hope it helped!
@michaelm3381
@michaelm3381 2 года назад
Great write up! After 19 years and only 17,000 miles, the driver side door panel has a tiny crack starting. I followed your instructions to remove staples and hopefully prevent it from getting worse.
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 2 года назад
I've had this video up for over a year and my cracks are still non-existent. I think this is the best way to do it based on my experience. Hopefully you have the same results!
@84GordonShumway
@84GordonShumway 2 года назад
Thank you for the walk thru video. Just got an 01 SLP Firehawk and well aware of this issue (along with the bubbling Sail apron!). Your video is spot on with the metal/plastic issue. Two things I can add: Try using a Dremel with a cutoff blade to get to the rear bent over staples, cut off each side and then you can pull from the top. Need to be careful but proved much easier as some of those staples were put in by Satan himself. I also did notice some pre-cracking where the cracks appear so the sooner the better!! The second was the one door hook, as stated, appears to have been broken off at the factory as mine too was missing the driver side hook near the speaker. Other then that, I can sleep better knowing I gave my door panels a chance now when it gets too hot or cold! THUMBS UP!
@ericteagardner5918
@ericteagardner5918 2 года назад
Thank you for this video!! Love your T/A. Saving up for one of my own atm.
@XenoSeven86
@XenoSeven86 3 года назад
Thanks my door panels are still nice. This will help keep them that way 👍🏽
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 3 года назад
Glad you don't have cracks! This seems to be a pretty easy way to keep them that way. My panels still look better than the day I brought the car home 6 years ago, so I'd say this was a good solution :) thanks for the sub btw!
@MarkWork-fd5tt
@MarkWork-fd5tt 21 день назад
great help...good ol' GM mentality
@jassysandhu2182
@jassysandhu2182 11 месяцев назад
Life saver video for me. Thanks brother
@aaron5785
@aaron5785 4 года назад
Looks pretty good, you definitely have good taste in cars and tools as I can see your a Milwaukee tools fan as am I!! 👍🇺🇸
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 4 года назад
Thanks! Can't beat the price per value on the Milwaukee stuff!
@jasminerul4821
@jasminerul4821 3 года назад
Thank you so much for this! Long story short my grandfather died (the only reliable man in my life) and his Camaro was felt to me. There's a couple things wrong and I've been asking my boyfriend and friends to help me for 5 months now and nobody has. I finally gave up and decided to try to figure it out myself and your video was VERY detailed and helpful for somebody clueless like me!
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 3 года назад
I'm glad this could help! These door panels are a little easier than I thought initially! Hopefully you got it all sorted out!
@jdirt1982
@jdirt1982 4 года назад
Thank you kind sir I just needed to know how to remove the door panel to fix my mirror 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 4 года назад
I think you should be able to do that without removing the panel, good luck!
@philllsxga.7737
@philllsxga.7737 3 года назад
Thanks man! My passenger window motor quit yesterday. Only 20,000 miles!!
@MW-yd4nk
@MW-yd4nk 3 года назад
I just replaced the bracket on the drivers mirror as well..VERY easy for sure without removing the panel
@Savineyard3
@Savineyard3 Год назад
I'll be doing this soon. I have a 1997 camaro z28 with stock door panels but I've always wanted to do a firebird panel conversion which isn't a small mod since I had to find 2 firebird door panels in good shape, 2 firebird doors to yank the interior skeleton since firebirds have different mounting spots compared to Camaro's. I've also purchased repurposed switch panels and replacement switches. Don't know how hard the wiring will be for the power windows and mirrors.
@philllsxga.7737
@philllsxga.7737 3 года назад
The same hook was missing on mine also. I did not find it in the door. The passenger side hooks were all there. Weird.. Great video!
@drblue5819
@drblue5819 2 года назад
I just put JB Weld on the other side of the panel and a clear coat of poxy over it to hold it worked like a charm. 2001 Firebird coup 3800
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 2 года назад
I've heard of the epoxy method as well! I did the method I show just to allow some flex in hopes that the cracks will stop. So far so good!
@artixx09
@artixx09 6 месяцев назад
Great video. I'm in the market for another T/A and that's seriously one of the first things I check, those dang door panels, haha.
@bdunn14
@bdunn14 3 года назад
Thanks for the video!
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 3 года назад
No problem, I hope it helps!
@brianwilson7146
@brianwilson7146 3 года назад
Hello there I am missing a few plastic hooks on my 99 Bird door panel and it is not seating quite rite.Do you know if you can super glue a few plastic hooks on there? Really nice video. Brian
@Arymuru
@Arymuru 4 года назад
bro thank you for this. I have a '94 camaro and I needed this video to replace those door speakers. I appreciate it 👍🏿
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 4 года назад
Glad I could help!
@waynehall7499
@waynehall7499 10 месяцев назад
Good info.
@klax001
@klax001 4 года назад
Nice video, I always wondered what the cause of the cracking was. I have a 2000 ws6 as well. Mine are already pretty badly cracked in two places on both panels. Probably wont mess with it unless I get new plastic for it though.
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 4 года назад
I think you can make it look a lot better to be honest, the cracks seem to seal themselves up. Good luck either way and thanks for watching!
@mikerice6732
@mikerice6732 Год назад
Does anyone know how to remove a rear quarter panel on a 4th gen?
@bigjohnharvey
@bigjohnharvey 4 года назад
NICE!!!
@bachluthology2
@bachluthology2 3 года назад
Cool! Ill shall give it a try this spring. Tell more about your Trans am.. what you add to it ..
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 3 года назад
Not too much to tell honestly, it's a mostly stock car with 11,500 miles. Short stick on the factory hurst, it has a Volant intake currently, but will be getting an SLP lid with factory sticker to appear stock, SLP y-pipe and Corsa catback. I'm going to be getting a C5z in the future, so I'm hoping to use the LS6 intake, cam and 243's off of that, mixed with some Kooks headers to add into the WS6. I want to keep it mostly stock, but "build" it how I think GM should have built it. And then just enjoy it. C5z will likely be getting HCI/FBO and eventually LS7, or at least that's the goal. We'll see :D
@brianwilson7146
@brianwilson7146 3 года назад
Thank you for your video did you have to drill the small holes in the door panel for the zip ties? Or were they already there? Great Ws6 I had that exact car a few years back.
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 3 года назад
I did have to drill them out a little wider, but they were already there because of the staples. Thanks!
@scotte2815
@scotte2815 3 года назад
this was useful Thank you, Thank you very much! [Elvis style]
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 3 года назад
Glad it could help!
@leeleses
@leeleses 4 года назад
I see you just did this in April. My question is have you used this method before on any other Firebird's or Camaro's? I'm wondering if the ties will tend to break off over time? This has been a problem when I used them on wiring outside my house. It could be the UV from sunlight weakening them over time. I like this idea because it's MUCH easier than oval holes and nuts and bolts. Also an idea as back up. Maybe leave two staples in, the first one up near the side view mirror and one mid way not where the panel is notched out which is where the cracks form. Thoughts?
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 4 года назад
I haven't used this method before, but I have seen others use it and it hasn't been an issue. I think the idea is exactly what you said, the zipties being out of the sunlight should help them to last a really long time. Also, putting the zipties in is probably the easiest part, so in my mind if I have to do it again in 5-10 years, it really wouldn't be a big deal as the hardest part is getting those dang staples out. I think you could leave a couple of the staples in, but I think you would also want to put something in each hole still to secure the piece to the door panel. If you don't it will lift in spots and just not look right.
@chickenmuffin
@chickenmuffin 3 года назад
My speaker is either blown or rattling badly. Thanks for this!
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 3 года назад
Hope it helps! It's probably blown, these speakers aren't great. The owner of my dad's old ws6 has replaced his door speaker twice in 20k miles
@chickenmuffin
@chickenmuffin 3 года назад
@@RamblinGarage Any idea what ti replace it with? I guess I should do both sides?
@Cheeseburgerperson141
@Cheeseburgerperson141 Год назад
Do I have to remove the panel to get to my speakers? Not really trying to do that but if that’s the only way, I’ll give it a shot. I had my window motor replaced but I don’t hear anything on my driver side.
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage Год назад
I think you can pop off just the speaker cover, but the panels are so easy to remove, I'd just go that route.
@Cheeseburgerperson141
@Cheeseburgerperson141 Год назад
@@RamblinGarage forgot to tell you I ended up taking off the whole panel and solved the problem. Thanks man. I was also able to slide it back in with no struggle.
@jacklabrier8039
@jacklabrier8039 9 месяцев назад
Any idea what size the screws are that mount the door panel? Thanks
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 9 месяцев назад
I do not know, you might be able to figure it out from some old posts on ls1tech though?
@jokergordon8446
@jokergordon8446 Год назад
11:52 "you see my crack anymore!" 😳
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage Год назад
nobody wants to see my crack
@SNELLERIZED
@SNELLERIZED 4 года назад
I would think it would be prudent to fiberglass the back side of all those weak points.
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 4 года назад
I already responded on FB.. but for consistencies sake haha .. I've seen people do that and people leave it alone, both seem to have good results once the trim piece isn't pushing and pulling on the door panel. I suppose time will tell either way :)
@bigjohnharvey
@bigjohnharvey 4 года назад
Yes, or magic smooth.
@leeleses
@leeleses 4 года назад
@@bigjohnharvey what's magic smooth?
@bigjohnharvey
@bigjohnharvey 4 года назад
@@leeleses Magic smooth resin. Look it up
@MW-yd4nk
@MW-yd4nk 3 года назад
ours cracked too..I've held off fixing them. Ours is a 2000 WS6 also..104k miles..the "boss doesn't drive it much cause she can't replace it
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 3 года назад
Where are you located? You could probably fix both in an afternoon if you tried hard enough. I think it's worth it!
@MW-yd4nk
@MW-yd4nk 3 года назад
@@RamblinGarage OC CA I'll give it a try !
@MW-yd4nk
@MW-yd4nk 3 года назад
@@RamblinGarage next job is removing center dash to replace the 3 AC vents and the passenger side one as well..seems like a project for sure
@jamessmith7249
@jamessmith7249 3 года назад
Great
@marvinvonrenchler4832
@marvinvonrenchler4832 3 года назад
Instead of replacing the staples with zip ties cant you njust glue the whole thing together?
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 3 года назад
I wouldn't, it wouldn't allow it to expand and contract properly so you'd like make the problem worse.
@Serenity13472
@Serenity13472 2 года назад
Would of liked to see you put on panel, that's where I'm having trouble. Instead its " just back on!".😑
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 2 года назад
What part are you having trouble with? Not to come off the wrong way, but I thought it was quite a bit easier than the normal push pin panels so I didn't feel it needed as much explaining, but I might still be able to help.
@Serenity13472
@Serenity13472 2 года назад
Thanx for responding, i am having trouble with the handle, orange lock bezel. I put that piece on with the orange that slides, to lock and unlock. It seems it doesn't reach when I try And put the rest of the bezel, and I cracked it, the plastic., point I was referring to was 12:05. But thanx for responding, I guess I need to find that bezel now.😬
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 2 года назад
@@Serenity13472 ​ the orange lock thing was a real pain, I just lined that up and literally just pushed it with my palm straight towards the door. That was by far the most frustrating part for me, but I don't know that I'd really be able to show how I did that on video honestly.
@Serenity13472
@Serenity13472 2 года назад
I figured that much, now I think I'm out 45$, to replace the plastic bezel. 🤬. Good day Sir
@mizravenkustoms
@mizravenkustoms 3 года назад
Damn I wish I would’ve seen this before I removed my panel to replace my wondow motor
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 3 года назад
well now you can remove them again :D
@naranjoceidy
@naranjoceidy 2 года назад
Does the steel strap have to be removed?
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 2 года назад
No it doesn't, just the metal staples.
@naranjoceidy
@naranjoceidy 2 года назад
@@RamblinGarage ok and did you have to drill the piece of were the staples were removed and the door panel too to put the zip ties? So each staple has 2 holes can I just drill one hole?
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 2 года назад
@@naranjoceidy you can drill depending on the size of your zipties. It's been a while now, but I don't believe I drilled.
@naranjoceidy
@naranjoceidy 2 года назад
@@RamblinGarage ok and no more crack on the panel? Or how is the zip ties hoding on?
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 2 года назад
@@naranjoceidy I didn't have a crack to begin with, but mine has not gotten worse. Zipties still holding in fine for me now, going in on year 3 I believe.
@Javelin3o4
@Javelin3o4 3 года назад
I'm just commenting because I have a 4th gen as well as a AMC.
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 3 года назад
That's awesome! What amc do you have?
@Javelin3o4
@Javelin3o4 3 года назад
@@RamblinGarage 70 Javelin.
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 3 года назад
@@Javelin3o4 nice!
@huntersmith8878
@huntersmith8878 2 года назад
My 2001 has 18k miles and the only flaw is a crack in the driver door pannel
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 2 года назад
Try this out, you'd be surprised how much better it can look.
@lynnmerritt8873
@lynnmerritt8873 3 года назад
Hmmm. same panel as my 99 Bonneville Se
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 3 года назад
They're pretty similar but the trans am panel is a good bit longer. Do the bonnevilles have a similar issue?
@in2ta
@in2ta 4 года назад
Nah that hook isn’t broken unless both of mine were and missing. I believe that’s the design
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 4 года назад
That's what someone else was saying - that's weird to me, it definitely looks broken. I wonder why they'd do that.
@408civettethreat
@408civettethreat 9 месяцев назад
I too thought I broke mine and didn’t realize it and Im the original owner. Makes me feel better know this😊. Thanks for the video 🍻
@OTRBandit
@OTRBandit 4 года назад
That plastic isn’t broken, it comes like that from factory.
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 4 года назад
I've since learned this, weird that it's like that.
@stanleyroberts6669
@stanleyroberts6669 2 года назад
I have a problem with your video, " I would like for you in your future video's explain too your viewers while you actually performing the act, not after!
@RamblinGarage
@RamblinGarage 2 года назад
It can be hard to explain things while learning and doing them at the same time. A lot of the videos I make I am learning while I go and sharing what I learn.
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