5 Bible Passages on Complementary Gender Roles 

Thank you for standing for truth. It is so difficult to go against what culture (not God) has allowed. Our nation is messed up because of it. I am honored to be a woman and love the differences in genders. God knew what He was doing in creation, and He is the same God today.

I just have a hard time thinking God, would be upset at a women for preaching his word.

after having been part of a church for years and now for decades not attending church i have been thinking about all those men in leadership that I looked up to and tried so hard to do what they preached because if they preached it that was what God said.... and when I disagreed with what they preached were God's commands I carried lots of guilt to have dared use my own mind to critically think about what was preached or taught.................................................. and where are they now? they moved on to other places, or they died. those who were part of the congregation that i was so close to in spirit now i cannot remember their names nor do they remember me and any closeness we had is long gone. ---and that is why I tell people with questions about the issues within the church that people come and go and only Christ will be there with us all the way to the end and beyond and to seek His leading in our lives, not strangers on fb or the latest pastor with the charming smile and smooth words.

Ezer Kenegdo is a Hebrew word that describes the role of a woman as a helper and partner to a man. The word Ezer means to rescue, to save, or to be strong, and the word Kenegdo means opposite as to him or corresponding as to him. The word Ezer Kenegdo implies that man and woman are equally and uniquely created, a perfect fit1. The word is used in the Old Testament 21 times.

if a husband dies, what man becomes authority over that woman? how is a man a better authoriy than Christ?

So according to Titus <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="124">2:4</a>-5 women can teach other women how to be domesticated servants but they can't teach them the word of God? Give me a break, this is 2024 and that worked in a patriarchal society, we don't live like that anymore.

How terribly disappointing and one-sided. ... *Ephesians <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="321">5:21</a>-21* "Submit to one another" -huh, that doesn't sounds very hierarchical to me. "What God's word has to say".. about a sexist and patriarchal culture... The bible also says that slaves should submit to their masters, but you wouldn't call slavery moral. You're mistaking a particular application for universal command The Bible didn't say that you should only submit to a kind slave-master, it doesn't say that you should only submit to a kind husband.' In fact 1 Peter <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="138">2:18</a> specifically states to submit to the slave master even if they not kind. This selective interpretation does not match our moral obligation to Love. Christ is not a model for human marriages, Christians are discouraged from marriage. "I don't think it's a burden at all" Big words from someone who's clearly happy with their gender role and its benefits. *1 Peter <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="184">3:4</a>-5* "Beauty is on the inside" is not a gendered idea. The Bible addresses many things to gendered groups, the Bible does not say "you will be _children_ of God" it says you will be sons. But that doesn't mean that salvation is off limits to women, Galatians <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="208">3:28</a> contradicts that notion. And once again, acknowledging authority is not the same thing as supporting. *1 Timothy <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="131">2:11</a>-13* "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve."" - 1 Timothy <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="131">2:11</a>-13 "Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh" - 1 Peter <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="138">2:18</a> You can't partially follow one and ignore the others. "Paul and Jesus and Christianity is *very* liberating for women." Yeah.. _now-_ _mostly._ No matter how much damage control you do or how much you bring up commentaries, this is an ancient custom which has been used to systematically abuse women for centuries. You can not accept it a little bit and say that the rest of it is cultural. Because if it's only for in the church, then that's only complementarian in the context of the church and outside of the church women's right and ability to speak is egalitarian. Unless you're lying and you actually do believe that women should be silent everywhere. *1 Corinthians <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="662">11:2</a>-3* "There's a distinction in some way between men and women" Good job sherlock, you cracked the case. Just because Ancient Greece was patriarchal and sexist that doesn't mean that we ought to be. "Some egalitarians have some arguments about what to do with passages I encourage you to look them up." So in the previous video you say "Complementarian vs : Which View Is Biblically Correct?" and then spend five minutes doing damage control for Complementarianism and giving one misleading point about Egalitarianism and then send us to this video where you aren't do any comparison or analysis at all. .. It seems like you're on the defensive to the point that you can't even acknowledge other arguments. *Titus <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="124">2:4</a>-5* Same thing bud, these are particular commands for the Corinthians and Paul, we're reading other people's mail these were never meant to be universal commands. You're stripping them of context. "It's gonna make some of you upset" Yeah it's almost like sexism is shameful. ... Not one of the passages you cited afford, even with your liberal interpretations, assert that men and men are differently capable or equally valuable. They only talk about power, submission, control and silence. The only difference between Male supremacy and complementarianism is the valuation of women, which is why so many sexists became "complementarians" in the '70s in response to Women's Lib. But it really doesn't matter if your beliefs aren't any different. _Separate Spheres of Excellence_ is a fallacious argument especially when there's no evidence for its claims. And it's not exactly hard to spot that men's sphere just so happens to be the part pulling the strings of society, up to an including what women are "made for". Also notice that what women are "made for" and "naturally suited for" changes every ~15 years or so as people realize that not ever woman is a naturally born to be passive, cooks, mothers, empathizers, carers, weak emotional or the only intimate relationship of men.

i like the way this guy said to read and come to your own conclusions. that is biblical to allow God to lead individuals as He sees fit but when he says the bible is clear ....it is not always clear. in fact it says we see through a glass darkly we read the bible in english and there are no perfect translations.--- that is why translation is an ongoing process taking centuries and bible scholars contiunue to translate and read and study. when the bible says a deacon or preacher should be the husband of one wife in our modern culture we think it means he whould not divorce and have remarried. but it is actually refering to polygamy which God allowed in the OT but Paul was trying to bring marriage back to the original intention in the garden one man with one wife.

And if women are told to submit--my question is to what degree?---when can sahe say no and think for herself? When her husband says it is ok to do so? All this leads to more questions---...and how dare a woman question----she should just accept what the men tell her the bible says at face value and never ever question. And some churches push that teaching---all based on the scriptures. So whose teaching is the correct one? Which one do we follow without fear of disobeying God and sinning?

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="70">1:10</a> -- Are you dishonest, or just tragically uninformed? Egals do not "pick and choose" or "throw out Scriptures" any more than you do.

To prove that women do not need to be under male authority, and have complete autonomy under Christ apart from men, then all it takes is one, just ONE women to have that personal relationship with Christ where she obeys His calling on her life and bypasses any male leadership/authority and does what He calls her to do and in doing so is revered by christians. Then let me introduce you to 3 women that the Christian church highly reveres but if they were an every day person like me would be called “feminist”. In reading about them a decision must be made concerning “ were they under male headship or authority and then how they lived (live) their lives and the resulting impact on the church….And if they were successful and managed to live a godly holy life spreading the gospel sans male leadership then the resulting conclusion must be one of the following--- 1- the way the church tradtionally thinks about women in ministry is wrong or 2- those 3 women are wrong or 3- God is wrong. We know it can't be #3. ---These 3 women who are accepted as highly esteemed women of God in complementarian and patriarchy churches are Lottie Moon, Corrie Ten Boom and Joni Eareckson--all 3 have taught men with their books and preaching. All have done things apart from a man's authority over them, getting their leading straight from God. How come they get a pass and the rest of Christian women do not? Because Joni is in a wheel chair? She is married so her husband should be in authority over her at all times. But she was an independent woman of God with a ministry and already hearing and acting on God’s leading in her life before she married. Corrie Ten Boom hid Jews and spent time in a concentration camp. She never married. She lived with her sister and father (so he may have been her male authority) But he died the night she and her sister went into the concentration camp. It was a special circumstance pat/comps say. Yes, it very much was but why does she get a pass to go against scripture as it is taught? Lottie Moon was a missionary to China in the late 1800s. She had to act on her own apart from the men who were head of missions back in the good old USA. Communication took time. She had only God to rely on and what did she do? She taught men and women. Was it ok because it was Chinese men she taught? She also wrote several articles about women being independent and equal to men. Boy, if the Baptist church only knew. But she makes so much money for them at Christmas as her name is on a fund raising campaign every year, so she gets a pass! The question remains- Either these women were/are sinning by not being under authority to a man ----or---- women do not need to be under any spiritual authority other than God. It cannot be both.

This excerpt is the reason I will not attend a church that follows the same theory. The Bible has not been properly interpreted. God and Jesus are egalitarian, any man that says different is pushing his own will on others.