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Today, we shall look at five of some Romance languages that are often marginalized and need more attention paid to them! Join me as we work through this list and look at examples of the languages. As I said in the video, if you want a Part 2, just tell me!
Music: bensound.com
Here is an amazing song in Mirandese/Mirandés if you want a better fell for what the language sounds like: • "Nós tenemos muitos na...
Disclaimer: I am a training linguist so not fully professional, so before you comment about me using the wrong past participle or that my ergative verb was 3 declensions too high, take your degree from the University of Reddit elsewhere, this content is to help people whom are getting into languages and not to overwhelm them with overly specific definitions.

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@dms-f16
@dms-f16 Год назад
Don't worry, if you meet a Romanian they'd remind you we're of Latin descent and our language is part of the Romance family 😉
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is definitely the best comment here
@Lampchuanungang
@Lampchuanungang Год назад
A tip to dear Romanians, dear Latino and Romanian brothers, with the creations of international latin languages ​​like today's interlingua to unite romanian, ido and interlingua in a superlatin language the same goes for istriot, and istrian romanian and aromanian will clean these languages ​​of mixes Slavic and Hellenic and of course save and clean all these sister latin languages. You are Latin brothers our hugs. Hugs from Macau.🤗🤗🤗🤗🇲🇴🇲🇴🇲🇴🇲🇴🇲🇴
@CrysolasChymera2117
@CrysolasChymera2117 Год назад
@@Lampchuanungang Is not necessary to clean anything, the language is beautiful as it is. Thanks
@gtc239
@gtc239 Год назад
@@Lampchuanungang "save and clean" Ewww purifist, the language is good as it is, no need to "purify" them.
@WizzardJC
@WizzardJC Год назад
Oh no I am sure that “never” comes up in conversation with a Romanian lol
@rawkeh
@rawkeh Год назад
As a native speaker of Romanian, I was surprised how much Aromanian and Istro-Romanian I could understand, despite never having been exposed to these languages
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
That's so cool! Thank you for your comment!!
@olgaroche2929
@olgaroche2929 3 месяца назад
Yes I see that too! Is amazing! Sounds more that these languages except the last one, which is more Latin, the ones like Romanian sounds like one language with Latin influences, more than a Latin language! Like Romanian is an old language with very strong Latin influences and other influences like Slavic etc. this is a very good way to study languages by comparing! Thank you!
@alex.nn85
@alex.nn85 2 года назад
Istro-romanian seems like Romanian mixed with Serbo-Croatian words. As a native Romanian, i find this quite fascinating!
@alykarstar
@alykarstar 2 года назад
More like, mixed with croatian letters, many words are very similar, but indeed, there was at least 1 word that was purely slavic
@ShamanKish
@ShamanKish Год назад
Ćaća nostrum - stvarno pomešano!
@Lampchuanungang
@Lampchuanungang Год назад
A tip to dear Romanians, dear Latino and Romanian brothers, with the creations of international latin languages ​​like today's interlingua to unite romanian, ido and interlingua in a superlatin language the same goes for istriot, and istrian romanian and aromanian will clean these languages ​​of mixes Slavic and Hellenic and of course save and clean all these sister latin languages. You are Latin brothers our hugs. Hugs from Macau.🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🇲🇴🇲🇴🇲🇴🇲🇴🇲🇴🇲🇴🇲🇴🇲🇴
@mg4361
@mg4361 Год назад
As someone who speaks both Croatian and a romance language (Italian) to me it looks like croatian vocabulary slapped onto a romance grammar. For example: "neka se spune volja a te" is basically Croatian until the "a te" part which is romance.
@dmitrychoobise
@dmitrychoobise Год назад
I also noticed a few obvious Slavic words.
@Bayard1503
@Bayard1503 Год назад
Aromanian was probably a much much more spread language even as recent as a century ago, I've seen some figures that when Greece gained independence 10% of the population was speaking Aromanian and they were even higher concentrations of speakers to the North. Standardized education probably took a huge hit on it.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Also genocides from the Ottoman Empire (or perhaps I should focus more on the term linguicide)
@gnas1897
@gnas1897 2 месяца назад
When Greece became independent, I don't think many people in it were speaking Aromanian. Aromanian never existed south of Thessaly in significant numbers. Perhaps you're getting confused with Arvanite, which was very common in southern Greece.
@martinkullberg6718
@martinkullberg6718 2 года назад
My first spanish course together with mom was an eye opener boath to learn that: A - my teacher told us after asking us to name all (big) romance languages after her introducing this language group to us,that whenn we forgot Romanian that it was a romance language : I had thought , really? I thought it was slavic, but if it's romance and related to spanish how would it sound? this intrigued me, so I searched things up about it like songs and so, and began to I love it. B- the love for romance languages: they are my favourite language group and so beautifull and romantic.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
Never forget Romanian!!!
@ppn194
@ppn194 2 года назад
What you say only proves AGAIN and AGAIN how idiot people are lacking a bit imagination. All know that the capital of the ROMAN empire was ROMA, but no one is make a connection with ROMAnia and ROMANian. But with Slavic. IDIOTS !
@Naisavrein
@Naisavrein Год назад
I never will! I've been to Romania twice and have amazing friends there. I also take every opportunity which arises to tell my favourite Scots that Romanian is a Romance language - and that Romania is a gem of a country. I get quite a few chances to do that because I'm a languages teacher. Now I just need to learn to speak Romanian! I would love to. My friends bought me a textbook but it doesn't have a CD or anything to help me with the sounds of the language.
@Aceistotallyhot
@Aceistotallyhot Год назад
Nice pfp
@naturalianoss
@naturalianoss 6 месяцев назад
it is because the western people hate the romanians and hate any type of link with us ..for me it is ok i dont care
@genobadea2738
@genobadea2738 Год назад
As a half Romanian and half Aromanian, who grew up in America, I'd like to thank you for this video. A lot of people aren't aware of the Latin languages in the Balkans. Many of the latin speakers of the Balkans outside of Romania were ostracized and marginalized in an attempt by the nations where they resided to destroy their roots and culture, in order to integrate them into either Greek, or Slavic cultures. Hopefully these beautiful Eastern Latin languages will go through a revival and the people will rediscover their Latin roots and cultures again.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
If you watched some of my recent videos, I talk about the revival of Dalmatian!
@fmango
@fmango Год назад
Afamados means “of fame” is an adjective. Mirandese is 100% readable as a Spanish speaker.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Some other commenters told me so over a year ago. Thank you for your comment either way!
@fueyo2229
@fueyo2229 5 месяцев назад
Mirandese isn't 100% readable, I'm a Spanish and Asturian speaker and I've talking with a mirandese speaker and I can't understand him even written, only like 60% I can understand of written Mirandese.
@Verge63
@Verge63 5 месяцев назад
There are about 1000s romance languages and dialects. The main ones are mutually intelligent some what but the dialects aren't.
@theodoroball
@theodoroball 5 месяцев назад
Here in Portugal, such an adjective doesn't exist, although the noun "famagusta" exists. Fascinante!
@FranciscoTornay
@FranciscoTornay 2 года назад
Native Spanish speaker here: "proua" is like Spanish "prueba", pt. "prova", = "proof". "Afamado" also exists in Spanish is actually not even very rare. It means "famous", from "fama" (fame).
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
When I learnt Spanish, I learnt the word famoso so it is interesting to always learn new words!
@denovemportem
@denovemportem 2 года назад
@@CheLanguages "Afamado" would be closer to the English "of renown" or "renowned" but still meaning pretty much the same thing as "famous" ;) In modern Portuguese you could use the terms "famoso" or "afamado" indistinctly; "afamado" being more formal and "famoso" more coloquial.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
@@denovemportem obrigado
@RicardoBaptista33
@RicardoBaptista33 Год назад
In this case, the word "proua" there means "pride".
@HalifaxHercules
@HalifaxHercules Год назад
While Spanish, particularly Castilian and Latin American varieties, is a Romance Language, it also had influence from the Arabs, Berbers, and Habsburg German.
@shottyhottie
@shottyhottie 2 года назад
The linguistics community is growing! ❤️
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
It certainly is!
@gazoontight
@gazoontight 3 года назад
Yes, part two, please!
@Plata-ori-plumbu
@Plata-ori-plumbu 2 года назад
Make a video on the extinct Romance languages such as Dalmatian and Latin. Especially recently extinct ones.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
You've just guessed my most recent video that will be uploaded later this week. Stay tuned!
@fanaticofmetal
@fanaticofmetal Год назад
Latin didn't die, it developed into today's Romance language
@s.p.a.c.e.c.
@s.p.a.c.e.c. Год назад
@@fanaticofmetal in italy it’s mandatory to study latin in high school
@fanaticofmetal
@fanaticofmetal Год назад
@@s.p.a.c.e.c. Only in the first two years, and it is poorly taught. I'm an italian myself.
@oanaomg7298
@oanaomg7298 Год назад
In Romania, we are taught in school that Aromanian and Istro-Romanian are two of the dialects of Romanian. Don’t know why tho. I can understand a great lot of both, especially Aromanian. Many words are still present in Romanian but considered archaic forms. There’s a consistent community of Aromanians (we call them Armîni or Makidoni) in the South-East of Romania, in Dobrogea. They try to preserve their beautiful language, traditions and folk music.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
That's cool. They are distinct, but obviously share similar origins
@pupyfan69
@pupyfan69 Год назад
for romanian nationalism reasons, i'd wager
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
@@pupyfan69 LOL
@natural783
@natural783 Год назад
It's the same in Italy. We are taught that neapolitan,sicilian,lombard etcetcetc are all dialects of italian which is bullshit. Just political reasons and ignorance
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
@@natural783 I agree completely, they are the Italian languages
@qekqbeen
@qekqbeen 2 года назад
French, Italian, Spanish, Romanian, portuguese, galician, catalan, a romanian, Sardinian, Corsican, romansh, Sicilian, istro-romanian and Papiamento that's all I could've thought of
@giovanniacuto2688
@giovanniacuto2688 2 года назад
I would add Franco-Provencal and Piemontese
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
Is it not Piedmontese?
@giovanniacuto2688
@giovanniacuto2688 2 года назад
@@CheLanguages As I live in Torino for part of the year I was using the Italian spelling here. I don't do it deliberately, it's just habit. If I intended to be pretentious I would have given you actual dialect spelling of the name Piemonteis (Wikipedia - piemontèis or lenga piemontèisa, in Italian: piemontese)
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
@@giovanniacuto2688 oh I didn't know that, interesting.
@diegone080
@diegone080 2 года назад
@@CheLanguages i think piedmontese is an italian dialect (I'm sardinian)
@elevatingjack5281
@elevatingjack5281 2 года назад
I got one, please do one on the Romance language leftover in North Africa! I watched another video that claimed that people in North Africa spoke a dialect of Latin until probably a few centuries ago, yes even long after Arabic Takeovers. I'd be interested in any evidence of surviving Romance languages in North Africa or West Asia.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
I'm already planning on it!
@emperorpalpatine2531
@emperorpalpatine2531 Год назад
That is very interesting. I think I saw a video about the North African dialect of Latin a while ago. It seems that North Africa, Western Asia, and Britain were the few places where a Romance didn’t appear
@Suite_annamite
@Suite_annamite Год назад
African Romance most likely got completely absorbed into contemporary Berber.
@DianaAtena
@DianaAtena Год назад
@@CheLanguages Ancient Egyptian was proto-Romance and Germanic (a mix). Grammar was close to Romanian, with feminine particle AT, which later became A. Reflexive voice "sa + v" : Egyptian "Sa de/di", Romanian "sa dau/dea,etc". Maat Re > madre in Sp and It, MUTTER in German, mother in En, "mitera" (pronunciation) in Greek, etc. Slavic languages used MAAT KA (Maat's soul) > ma ka > maika. The loss of T in the fem AT is documented in Egyptian, but I think a dialectal variation already lost it in early dynastic, as the name MA REA is documented (but wrongly transliterated, they made up vowels, even if the hieroglyphs contain vowels! They can be decoded properly.). Egypt and Dacia used AMAT (not mwt, which is a wrong transliteration). In both AMAT > AMA. In Romanian it became MAMA, a dual plural that is documented in the Danube script. For short, all Europe, prior to R1b and R1a separation, called MAAT RE (Sun in Libra) their mother, sacred Light, creator of everything. Egyptians called themselves Mosi Re, children of Re (the reference appears in Genesis), which became Misr in Arabic, Masr in Egyptian Arabic and Mitzraim in Hebrew (whose word mother is IMA, a loan from Egyptian). The 40000 year old proto-script of Europe > Danube script (also used at GT and Cuina Turcului) > Egyptian hieroglyphs. Deat (not Duat) comes from "Dya/deea" = light. FRE (not nefer, Coptic added prefix "na" much later on, and it's "nafre") > FAIR - identical meaning (beautiful, "fair of skin"). Hede = white (proto-Germanic word). The Sphinx is REEA (Sahamat, which is Sun in Gemini, Sah AMAT, Sah's mother, Sah = Orion, the name is wrongly transliterated as Sekhmet, but the consonants are correct, vowels are made up. SHMT). The 3 pyramids = Orion's belt. Now, using modern European astrology (yes, we must, this is about astrology), Orion's belt is Gemini 22, 23, 24. The Sphinx is conjunct the middle one - Gemini 23. Using precession (which is scientific), we calculate the time they indicate - from Gemini 23 to Pisces 5 (rounded up a bit), which is the current spring equinox. 108 degrees that we multiply by 72 years (to make up a grand year) => 7776 years ago. The Black Sea Deluge, dated by Ballard et al c 7500 ya, confirming Ryan et al (aprox timeline). The legend of Caraiman (Ka = soul, RAI = heavens in Romanian, derived from RA, MAN = eternal in Egyptian) was documented in 1927 and it is a very direct link to the Black Sea Deluge and what happened then. The giant wizard = Orion, his bagpipe = Orion's belt. The lazy sons killed the good, hard working sons, which explains what happened = Karmin et al propose a severe genetic YDNA bottleneck at the time. The legend of Herod killing all males, is also an indication of what happened - two different sources of the same myth, which turns out to be an event. Djed su = pillar rising = Orion's spine = Gemini. I think it is Bellatrix, the Saka star (Amazons were Saka). Narmer's Palette has a wolf standard - Dacia. Palermo Stone names King SAKA (the name used for all Scythians, both R1b and R1a, including Massagetae). Egyptians and other Saka had a documented dispute about who is older - R1b and R1a diverged c 25000 years ago..... This proves they kept records - and Plato-s account of the GODDESS (Reea) who created both Egyptians and Greeks is accurate, it clearly indicates Egyptians were European and it was well known. Plato also accurately pinpoints Meltwater Pulse 1b....the flood he mentions linked to Atlantis.... Sakarya = Saka Rya, SAKA Sun, river Saka RA (Saqqara). They did leave a strong linguistic trail... Asare = I, son of Re (sa = son, the duck sign). Asare > soaRE in Romanian. SARE > SORE > SOLE > SOL. Ra sa (Ra rising) > raza in Ro, RAY in En. Ra mina (Ra eternal) > La mina > lumina in Ro. Ra dya => a radia in Romanian, "radiate" in En. According to all DNA reseach papers, Egyptians were Euro-Anatolians, but we have their myth of creation and the evidence is undeniable = ancient Egypt was founded by Saka, Dacia and Anatolia... Gobekli Tepe used the Danube script > Egyptian hieroglyphs. Cuina Turcului, which is even older that GT already used the Danube script, including a unique T symbol that appears on Narmer's Palette - King Tesh' name. Saka > Saxon. Saka uber alles. Sounds familiar?
@DianaAtena
@DianaAtena Год назад
@@CheLanguages SUMMER, SOMMER is derived from SA AM RE (sa am soaRE, I have sun). Sun and son are homophones, because they're derived from Asare, son of Re, who replaced RE as the sun in the current Age (Pisces, when Gemini, Asare is Summer Solstice) - evidence - Sanziana/Sanziene is derived from San Diana > Dziana > Ziana, still celebrated on June 24, so a bit off, but still Summer Solstice, so Diana was the Sun in Cancer. Artemis is derived from RA ATAM, atam = light particle in old European and Egyptian. Atam > adam. Mesarthim (the star) in Aries (the previous astrological age) is Mes (birth) RA ATAM. So Artemis was Sun in Aries = Spring equinox, the previous age. SherATAN (star) - Sa RE Atan, son of RE ATAN - Atenism is dated to the Age of Aries and this star is also in Aries constellation. Amen might have been the Winter Solstice (the temple of Karnak is oriented to it apparently). The sky was feminine, but constellations were masculine later on, because they represented the projection of the earth, which was the masculine principle. Hera = Heat Here (Hathor's correct transliteration), married to Zeus, the bull (Taurus). "Hathor" is the Sun in Taurus, she is a cow with the SUn between the horns. Sahamat (Sekhmet, SHMT) is a tigress (STRIPES, like the Sphinx) with the Sun as halo in some sculptures. She is the Sun in Gemini (Sah amat, Sah's mother, Sah = Orion, a variant of his name). Tigers existed in the area around the Black Sea - the North until Middle Ages, in Anatolia until 1970s.
@tonitrus553
@tonitrus553 2 года назад
Loving the little transition tunes between each language, just feels funky. Love the video!
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
That's what I was going for! Plus it would get tiring to watch if there were no transitions. Thank you, you might want to watch part 2 as well!
@Kualinar
@Kualinar 2 года назад
I once met a Romanian. She often asked me how some words where pronounced in French. Quite often, it was the same, or almost the same, thing.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
Never forget Romanian! Check out Part 2 also, there are some other languages you should not forget about there too.
@mihaelac2472
@mihaelac2472 2 года назад
Many neologisms are borrowed from French
@Kualinar
@Kualinar 2 года назад
@@mihaelac2472 Not just neologisms. There is actually a dictionary containing the English words that come from the French. It contains about 15000 words. You find same spelling and meaning, same meaning but slightly different spelling, same spelling but altered meaning, altered spelling and meaning, old French spelling and same meaning. Take «grape». In French, it designate a mechanically interconnected cluster. A cluster of balloons is «une grape de ballons». «raisin» designate the fresh and dried fruit, and is followed by «sec» for the dried ones. «blue» comes from «bleu» but with flipped letters. Danger and attention have same meaning and spelling. They differ only in how they are pronounced.
@MegaWunna
@MegaWunna Год назад
@@Kualinar as swedish I can tell you that raisin in swedish is russin and blue is blå. Those words are just derived from the old germanic language. Since the word for raising and blue in all Germanic languages are similar to each other.
@ronscott8708
@ronscott8708 Год назад
I once met a couple of Romanian men who stopped in our conversation to speak to each other in Romanian. They were talking about numbers (money, actually) and having a basic grasp of French, I was able to understand the private communication. I didn't let on that I understood, however.
@julianfejzo4829
@julianfejzo4829 Год назад
2:33 Albania actually recognizes Aromanian since 2017, before that Aromanians generally where either unrecognized or considered to be "Greeks" because of their historic and cultural ties to the Greek Orthodox church (which used Greek the main language of education in Southern Albania historically). When Albania recognized the Aromanians Greece went mad at us because they claim all the lands inhabited by them to be inhabited by Greeks since they don't consider Aromanians as a different ethnic group from their own. Also, last time I checked their number was around 2 milion
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Ah, that's an interesting history
@naturalianoss
@naturalianoss 6 месяцев назад
basically the aromanians rule the whole balkan peninsula all the big bussiness and mafia is aromanian .In Romania we have Gigi Becali and his cousins Ioan Becali and Victor Becali and also Gheorghe Hagi is aromanian .
@joseignacio512
@joseignacio512 Год назад
Ligurian, a Romance language more similar to Langes d'oil in its origins than to Standard Italian, but every day more and more inflluenced by Standard Italian, to the point that with confidence I can say it's an italianized language. Nevertheless, a beautiful, mysterious language, invisible to the common people and virtually unknown to them; and these traits increase by the day. Unless someone takes up a serious effort to revitalize it, it's doomed to quietly disappear, despite having had a glorious past as the literary and common language of the Genoese Republic. Alas, Italian reunifcation and programme to make everyone speak Standard Italian and label any other language as a "dialect of Italian". Please pardon my rant, but I do feel that it is time to raise awareness about the very existence of Lengoa Zenéize.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
I hate it when people refer to the Italian languages as "dialects". I talk about Ligurian in one of my later episodes, I think it's Part 3
@joseignacio512
@joseignacio512 Год назад
@@CheLanguages It's a high-end job what you are doing in here. Please, keep up with the good work, and help us preserve beautiful, endangered languages!
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
@@joseignacio512 thank you, I appreciate the kind words!
@GavinPetty
@GavinPetty 3 года назад
This is a pretty well made video, I wonder why you aren't a much larger channel?
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 3 года назад
Thank you! Well I am fairly new to making videos but the last two weeks has been my largest growth so far so who knows for the future?
@rollout1984
@rollout1984 2 года назад
Good point, so i just subscribed
@ethem8284
@ethem8284 2 года назад
aromanian doesn't have nasalised vowels, the symbol ã is like the ă symbol in Romanian Edit: and the sound is a shwa if nobody knows
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
Someone already corrected me on that one but I will thank you also. It is a weird letter to use as a Shva but it gives Aromanian an unique look!
@MrQ454
@MrQ454 Год назад
@@CheLanguages In fact they tried to adapt an different alphabet to their language, Romanian alphabet which is the Latin alphabet with some minor changes is more useful. Pronunciation is more close that it seems but Aromanians have some loans from the Greek mainly which differentiate them from the Romanians.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
@@MrQ454 right, good to know
@oigolueb
@oigolueb 2 года назад
About mirandese, i would say that looking at "academic" asturian the differencies are pretty big, but if you look at the closest occidental dialects of leonese like cabreirés or senabrés you will see that they are pretty identical to mirandese, most differencies are just due to spanish influence on one side and portuguese influence on the other side (mirandese's phonetic is literally from Trasmontano dialect of portuguese (also very influenced by mirandese and rlly close to galician), they keep medieval distinction of -s-, ss, z and c, which means the pronunciation of paço is different from the one of passo). Sorry for the bible i wrote, and congrats for the video, very cool!
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
That's fine, I love anything that is interesting!
@hispalismapping155
@hispalismapping155 2 года назад
I speak mirandés, so isn´t really forgotten
@joseluismartinalonso1736
@joseluismartinalonso1736 Год назад
Escribo en español que me expreso mejor. La distribución del Mirandés ocurre en la zona más lejana de influencia de las tribus astures prerromanas, a la ribera norte del Duero y desembocadura del Esla, perteneciendo a la tribu Zoela, los zoelas, esa zona. Ese sustrato lingüístico, la contigüidad geográfica y contacto con la región leonesa, o con Zamora, y su lejanía con la metrópoli portuguesa han favorecido la pervivencia de la lengua que, sin embargo, con la escolarización en portugués desde el siglo XX así como la falta de una escritura propia, pues se ortografía como en portugués, la han llevado a una deriva lejana del "asturiano" normativo, por otra parte solamente lengua administrativa. Yo soy asturiano y por eso me parece bastante acertado el primer comentario respecto a la influencia entre galaicoportugués y un sustrato astur.
@HalifaxHercules
@HalifaxHercules Год назад
While parts of Britannia was under Roman control, most of their people are predominantly Insular Celtic or German. Don't forget that in the 5th century, the Roman empire left Britannia, and then several Germanic speaking tribes invaded its shores, notably the Angles, Saxons, Jutes, and Frisians. These four Germanic tribes along with the Normans formed a foundation for the English language.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Yes this is true. Did you mistake something I said in the video?
@livialopes2559
@livialopes2559 2 года назад
Super interesting video!!! Kisses from Brazil🇧🇷!!
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
Obrigado!
@ciarandoyle4349
@ciarandoyle4349 Год назад
The Istro-Romanian text illustrated in the video seems to me to be "The Lord's Prayer". Čače nostru, kar le šti en čer..." "Our Father who art in Heaven..."
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Yeah, the comments figured that one out a long time ago and I mention it in my part 2 video. Thank you for clarifying me either way!
@villamurillo7003
@villamurillo7003 2 года назад
Amazing videos, I really love the way you made this videos ❤️
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
Hope you enjoy my other videos!
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 3 года назад
Update! Part 2 is here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dDkyt0rdtfE.html Remember to Subscribe!
@sardoniceheleno.7452
@sardoniceheleno.7452 3 года назад
this video is very nice, however the case of mirandese is very tricky. Rather than an individual language is usually refered by many experts as an Asturleonese dialect because the lack of dinstiction and singularities compared to another astureleonese dialects. The region of Miranda do Douro has been prety conected to Leonese kingdom, nowadays Spain since the early medievals times when Portugal wasn't a thing yet. Anyways your video have a lot of quality and interesting facts, hope your channel will go fine. postdata:english is not my mother language,my apoligies for any error I may commited.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 3 года назад
Your English was perfect until that final line where you apologised for your English! You are right by the history, but modern Mirandese is different enough to be classified a different language now. Also, the speakers themselves believe they speak a different language and sometimes I think it is down to the speakers to decide what is the difference between their language being a dialect or a different language from another.
@bilbohob7179
@bilbohob7179 2 года назад
@@CheLanguages mirandes is only astur-leonés from Portugal.
@harveybeaver9731
@harveybeaver9731 2 года назад
@@CheLanguages " Also, the speakers themselves believe they speak a different language and sometimes I think it is down to the speakers to decide what is the difference between their language being a dialect or a different language from another." Perhaps, albeit with a help of an army and a navy.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
@@harveybeaver9731 haahha
@MrColuber
@MrColuber Год назад
"The region of Miranda do Douro has been prety conected to Leonese kingdom, nowadays Spain since the early medievals times when Portugal wasn't a thing yet." Dunno. Portugal's been 'a thing' since 868 a.D.
@ashdjin8530
@ashdjin8530 2 года назад
To me, as a Romanian, "proua" sounds and looks a lot like the Romanian "proba" meaning evidence, proof or as a record of something.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
Interesting.
@leonardoabaptista
@leonardoabaptista 2 года назад
Vera good! Part II please.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
Part 2 and 3 exist
@stanislavkocur3408
@stanislavkocur3408 Год назад
Actually there are few words that migrated from romanian to surrounding slavic languages, including my mother tongue slovak. Slovakia lies on the carpathian crescent so romanian (actually vallach) shepherds migrated withing the carpathia eith their herds and brought their vocabulaire with them. So! Cheese in romanian is Brânza (pron: bruinza). In slovak we adopted this word as Brindza to mean sheep cheese. Its involved in our most famous dish halušky. Another example is Slănină, which is a romanian word for pork fat. In slovak the word slanina means just bacon.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Interesting, I must say I don't know much about Slovenian, language nor culture/cuisine. It seems a really underrated and beautiful country though and I'd definitely like to visit some time!
@floringhergu3354
@floringhergu3354 Год назад
@@CheLanguages Slovak not Slovenian. Slovakia is located in the center of Europe, and was part of Czechoslovakia, and Slovenia is located in the north of the Adriatic Sea, and was a component part of Yugoslavia.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
@@floringhergu3354 my bad, I know they are different countries and languages, I can usually tell but I swear he said Slovenian at first. My own confusion I apologize deeply
@seid3366
@seid3366 3 года назад
ã represents the sound ă makes in Romanian
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 3 года назад
Good to know! Do you speak this beautiful language?
@seid3366
@seid3366 3 года назад
@@CheLanguages No. I remember it when I did some research on it
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 3 года назад
@@seid3366 OK nice one.
@dmax4838
@dmax4838 2 года назад
The Romanian alphabet is a variant of the Latin alphabet used for writing the Romanian language. It is a modification of the classical Latin alphabet and consists of 31 letters, five of which (Ă, Â, Î, Ș, and Ț) have been modified from their Latin originals for the phonetic requirements of the language.
@olgaroche2929
@olgaroche2929 3 месяца назад
❤Thank You! Very good video!
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 3 месяца назад
You're welcome! Thank you for the kind comment
@LuisVillanuevaCubero
@LuisVillanuevaCubero Год назад
Learned something new. Thanks!
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
I'm glad to hear it, I hope you always learn something new and fascinating!
@doubledee9675
@doubledee9675 Год назад
Having studied French and Latin, I was able to read the Istro-Romanian. The others were harder to do more than pick out a few words here and there.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Interesting that that was the one you found easiest. Let me know what you think about the languages on my other Romance languages videos
@rileym411
@rileym411 2 года назад
Excellent video!
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
I humbly thank you for your gratitude, your excellency Sir Doge.
@Maia_Cyclist
@Maia_Cyclist Год назад
Mirandese is a dialect of leonese, and well protected in Portugal there is a band that sing just in that language
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Yes and no. Speaking to different people, I'd judge that it's somewhere between a dialect and a language of it's own. For purposes of this video, calling it a language makes it easier to talk about
@fueyo2229
@fueyo2229 5 месяцев назад
I speak Asturleonese and I barely understand Mirandese it's a language, and it isn't that well protected, you can't even put your child a mirandese name in Portugal.
@johnhemphill1938
@johnhemphill1938 Год назад
Would love to see part 2
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
I made part 2, 3 and 4 over a year ago. I hope you enjoy!
@katakai7117
@katakai7117 Год назад
Aromanian speaker here, the ã in the word you tried to pronounce is exactly like the ă in romanian, gj however Thanks for the mention 🙏
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
You're an Aromanian speaker? That's awesome!
@katakai7117
@katakai7117 Год назад
@@CheLanguages Ye , not native level due to the decline of the language but still good enough
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
@@katakai7117 that's really cool though. Which country do you live in if you mind me asking?
@gabrielwysong6321
@gabrielwysong6321 3 года назад
Hey, if you can find anything on it, could you do a video about British Latin? It's a very interesting thing to me, and I've been trying for a while to construct a modern-day British Romance language.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 3 года назад
I have been interesting in a British Romance language for a long time too. I will do some research on it but from what I have read in books, Latin was never able to take any significant standing in Britannia amongst the majority of local peasant farmers and thus, similar to French in England, Latin was only reserved for the higher-ups in society but never made an impact on the majority of people's speech.
@martinkullberg6718
@martinkullberg6718 2 года назад
Search Brithenig for a hypotetical cheltic Welsh-oform example of britanno-romance, personally I love it.
@shaneschambach932
@shaneschambach932 2 года назад
Good! Enlightening video.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
I'm glad you found it interesting
@saebica
@saebica 2 года назад
People forget about Aromanian, Meglenoromanian and Istroromanian. I'm Aromanian and if you need samples and audios, please tell me.
@_utahraptor
@_utahraptor 2 года назад
Greetings from Romania :D. Where are you from? How is your language doing in your area? Do you and your family speak it regularly? Please inform me, I love hearing about you guys but there's few information out there
@saebica
@saebica 2 года назад
@@_utahraptor Buna dzua, Sunt constantea, nascut si crescut aici In my family, only I speak it and only I have been studying it since childhood, by myself, using any source available. We still speak the language in the city and I hear many people use it daily in their circles. Seba
@Innomenatus
@Innomenatus 2 года назад
Do you think that Aromanian is derived from the language of the Daco-Romans or the Thraco-Romans?
@saebica
@saebica 2 года назад
@@Innomenatus Aromanian is derived from Gaeto-Dacians who were Thracians DacoRomanian is the Romanian spoken in Romania
@_delriooo1396
@_delriooo1396 2 года назад
I thought Mirandese was a dialect of Asturleonese or as we know it mainly in Spain Asturian (which is also a forgotten language with Aragonese). It's like consider aranese in Spain as a different language from occitan
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
Watch Part 2, I explain it! I also talk about Aranese in Part 2.
@_delriooo1396
@_delriooo1396 2 года назад
@@CheLanguages I'll see it :)
@fueyo2229
@fueyo2229 5 месяцев назад
I speak Asturian and I can't understand Mirandese at all, I think it's own language, while originaring from Asturleonese it has derived a lot due to isolation and Portuguese influence.
@primozlorencak512
@primozlorencak512 3 года назад
In your example of a prayer in Istro-Romanian approx. half of words are Slavic.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 3 года назад
Yes, you are correct. Romanian also has much Slavic influence, and it is pretty self explanatory why. Similar to English still being a Germanic language despite the amount of Romance vocabulary within it, Istro-Romanian is still a Romance language despite the amount of Slavic vocabulary in the language.
@_utahraptor
@_utahraptor 2 года назад
That's because there isn't a standardised Istro-Romanian alphabet and there are several ways of writing the language. That alphabet in particular was entirely based in Croatian. People also use one based in Romanian and a mix of both
@MarcoSgrignoli
@MarcoSgrignoli Год назад
All of this is super-interesting! I didn't remember about Istro-romanian and never have known about Mirandese. If I can make a suggestion, I find that your slides would improve if they featured less text. Less verbs and full sentences, just keywords and of course language examples.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Check out my latest videos (this one was over a year and a half ago) then tell me what you think. Thank you
@flamencoprof
@flamencoprof 2 года назад
03:59 About that time many Dalmatians arrived in New Zealand. I live (t)here, but sadly don't know if any speakers survive.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
It definitely went extinct in 1897 (interesting story about how the guy died btw, he was caught up in an explosion, the language literally went out with a bang) when the last native speaker was killed. However, we know what it sounds like and if someone wanted to, they could learn it fluently and bring it back. Perhaps you will be the first?
@flamencoprof
@flamencoprof 2 года назад
@@CheLanguages Not me, I'm of British stock. They have their own responsibilities.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
@@flamencoprof I live in the UK, I am the only polyglot in my town because most English people are rather ignorant about learning foreign languages but there are a few bilinguals here nonetheless.
@flamencoprof
@flamencoprof 2 года назад
@@CheLanguages Sorry, I didn't mean to sound as you have taken it. I will make a parallel with my (obvious) interest in Flamenco music. It took me a few years to learn I was an outsider, and would never be considered anything else by the practitioners.
@-ge7877
@-ge7877 Год назад
Hello again Che, great video once again ! One more thing that would be interesting to know, is that Aromanian is an only-spoken language(at least according to my Grandmother, she speaaks the language at almost native level) and there is no actual Aromanian lettering/alphabet. Good thing about the language's preservation is that small pockets of people (even young) still use it every day, either for trapping tourists in buying souvenirs or overpaying in restaurants in the highly touristy village of Metsobo(Μέτσοβο) in Greece, sadly very few use it for real everyday occurrences
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 11 месяцев назад
I'm aware that it's not really written, it's hard to find any written samples at all. It makes me happy to know that the younger people are still speaking it!
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for the info
@mistery7893
@mistery7893 Год назад
You should speak About Portunhol,Portuguese speakers of Uruguay that got a little assimilated,really interessing history
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Ah yes, I've heard about that. It's more of a pidgin than a language though, não?
@WakeAndBakeBeats
@WakeAndBakeBeats Год назад
hey dude i love the content! hmu if u get a chance, id love to give some tips on easy vocal editing tricks u can do to help with the aliasing and sibilance!
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
That would be great. I'm still experimenting a lot with those sorts of things
@ubuntuposix
@ubuntuposix 2 года назад
Aromanian was actually targeted by countries like Greece to disappear (and create a homogenous Greek nation). Aromanian (Macedo-Romanian) is nowadays used in songs in Romania, since there are respected Aromanian communities in the country, and it can also be understood by Romanians, at least in part. As a Romanian, I find the text that you put in Aromanian to be very similar to (Daco-) Romanian. Its almost like a window into the past (its similar to archaic Daco-Romanian).
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
Well of course it will have historic links that make it intelligible to an extent. That's interesting that you can still understand it though.
@thomasalberto613
@thomasalberto613 2 года назад
Muito legal! Great video!
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
Obrigado
@jumo004
@jumo004 Год назад
Very well done.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@xscallcos4835
@xscallcos4835 2 года назад
I would love to see part 2
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
Part 2 exists, you can watch it here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dDkyt0rdtfE.html
@xscallcos4835
@xscallcos4835 2 года назад
@@CheLanguages Thank you, I have watched it and it was great
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
@@xscallcos4835 I am glad that you enjoyed it.
@kernowseb71
@kernowseb71 2 года назад
Years ago I wrote a short Wikipedia article on Istroromân grammar. There is so much more to add but I don't have the time! en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istro-Romanian_grammar When people say Istro-Romanian is just a form of Croatian they are basing it on the high incidence of Slavic vocabulary. However the base grammar is purely Romanian. The use of Slavic diacritics also gives it the impression of a Slavic language. The ã in Aromanian is not a nasal sound, but another way to write ă. In 70s and 80s communist Romanian some fonts used ã instead of the usual ă. They are the same sound.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
I saw that article when I was researching for the video! Well done.
@emilianofuentes4129
@emilianofuentes4129 Год назад
Hi, everyone! I'm a native Spanish speaker from Mexico and I perfectly knew Romanian language was a part of the Romance Language family, but it is interesting to hear about the lesser known Romance languages, especially for us speakers of the predominant Romance languages, and I believe that a good effort should be made to protect them and motivate their speaakers to continue using them, because if not, they will end up disappearing. As I speak the most widely spoken Romance language in the world, I do not face the danger that my language may disappear, but I do feel very bad for people whose language has no guarantee of survival. All languages ​​are beautiful, and I think they should be preserved so that the identity of the communities is not lost. Finally, I personally think that so as to assure the survival of a language, it has to be on the internet and the TV (mainly in dubbing for movies), because, especially for younger speakers, our society spends huge amounts of time online and watching videos and movies, so it's important to have content like that in the language.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Good to have you here and hear your opinion on this! Muchas gracias
@flamencoprof
@flamencoprof 2 года назад
03:12 With my tiny bits of school Latin, and some French, Spanish, and even tinier Italian experience, that looks like it could be the christian "Lord's Prayer".
@arsantiqua8741
@arsantiqua8741 2 года назад
it is.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
I confirmed that it is in my Part 2 when I came across another example that used the prayer
@CrysolasChymera2117
@CrysolasChymera2117 2 года назад
I'm Romanian, I can try to speak it matching all variants of Instro/A-Romanian and I understand 75/80% of it.
@ScapularSaves
@ScapularSaves Год назад
Appreciate this! I love Latin of course. Is there a simple Latin diction that most Romance speakers can understand and even converse with? I read that in Croatia Latin was still spoken in their Senate as the official language of State until mid 1800s. If these spoken Romance languages are alive then why not Latin as a vulgar tongue?
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
They are not all close enough for Latin to be used as a spoken language, but most Romance speakers can read Latin more or less with some basic education and a Spanish speaker could read a text in Italian and almost understand it completely, or a Portuguese speaker could read French and get most of what is written.
@Suite_annamite
@Suite_annamite Год назад
@7:17: A French speaker might be tempted to think that "afamados" means "we're starving", yet a quick search on wiktionary clarified that it means masculine and plural for "famous"!
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Yes, many other people told me the meaning already. Thank you for checking!
@fueyo2229
@fueyo2229 5 месяцев назад
Actually in Asturian, the closest language to Mirandese, "afamiados" also means that!
@wentaosong
@wentaosong Год назад
This video remind me the Dalmatian language. The Rugusa dialect is one of the official language in republic of Ragusa
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
I talk about Dalmatian in another video
@wentaosong
@wentaosong Год назад
@@CheLanguages That’s cool man
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
@@wentaosong thank you!
@wentaosong
@wentaosong Год назад
@@CheLanguages It’s my pleasure, keep it up with more videos man.
@nickimontie
@nickimontie Год назад
I’m binge watching this series now, after watching some of your more recent videos. It’s making me wonder something that I haven’t seen addressed yet. Given Spain’s history, does Spanish have a significant amount of Arabic influences? Just a hypothesis on my part, but if there is significant influence, I think it would be in all Spanish dialects because the influence would have pre-dated Western expansion into the New World, yes?
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Yes, Spanish has hundreds of Arabic loanwords. Any word in Spanish or Portuguese beginning with Al is almost definitely Arabic, Alcova, Alcohol, Algebra, Alfresco etc. Also, instead of using the word Oliva like other Romance languages, Spanish says Aceituna, which comes from Arabic Zeitun (meaning "olives"), cognate with Hebrew Zeitim for olives
@nickimontie
@nickimontie Год назад
@@CheLanguages that is fascinating! Thank you!
@frankmaeder4358
@frankmaeder4358 Год назад
Yes part 2 pls! but then dont forget Rhetic Romance, which is quite endangered, but still one of the 4 official languages of Switzerland! besides German, French and Italian
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Bruh I made part 2, 3 and 4 well over a year ago
@Dagerskin
@Dagerskin Год назад
7:17 I know I'm late but I think afamados means famous. My reasoning: besta(beast)->abestado(idiot/beast like in inteligence); vista(sight)->avistado(that which is seen); fama(fame)->afamado(that which has fame). In portuguese it would be 'famoso.'
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Good reasoning! Someone told me long ago it means famous and it made sense as soon as I saw it. Thank you for your comment!
@jLjtremblay
@jLjtremblay Год назад
Très intéressant... je savais pas!
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Merci!
@2dwatermelon302
@2dwatermelon302 Год назад
I can't speak istro-romanian, but i can speak romanian and I recognize the prayer. It's from the bible. Here is a translation in Romanian and in English and the text in Istro-romanian under it if you want to find out more about the language :) Romanian: Tatăl nostru, Care eşti în ceruri, Sfinţească-se numele Tău; Vie împărăţia Ta; Facă-se voia Ta, precum în cer şi pe pământ. Pâinea noastră cea spre fiinţă dă-ne-o nouă astăzi; Şi ne iartă nouă greşelile noastre, precum şi noi iertăm greşiţilor noştri; și nu ne duce pe noi în ispită, ci ne izbăveşte de cel viclean. English: Our Father who art in heaven hallowed be your name. Thy kingdom come. Your will be done, as it is in heaven and on earth. Give us our daily bread today. And forgive us our sins, as we forgive our sinners. and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. Istro-romanian: Čače nostru, kar le šti en čer, neka se spuné volja a te, kum en čer, ašá ši pre pemint. Pera nostre saka zi de nam astez. Odprosté nam dužan, ka ši noi odprostim a lu nostri dužnič. Neka nu na tu vezi en napastovanie, neka na zbavešt de zvaka slabé. Amen.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
That's so cool that your can understand Istro-Romanian from Romanian! Thank you!
@MrQ454
@MrQ454 Год назад
@@CheLanguages ”kum en čer, ašá ši pre pemint”-”precum în cer şi pe pământ.”, practically there are the same words only they are not familiar with Romanian writing. ”kum en čer, ašá ši pre pemint” could be writne in Romanian as ”cum în cer, așa și pe (pre is archaism in Romania!) pămînt”. almost the same pronounciation.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
@@MrQ454 oh wow, that's good to know! Thank you!
@raulepure9840
@raulepure9840 Год назад
@@MrQ454 Note: Pamant (earth) exist just in romanian language (it comes from latin pavimentum) so this means istro-romanian is a branch of romanian language. In reality istro-romanian is the closest to romanian but it is heavily mixed with croatian so is harder to see it's origin.
@MrQ454
@MrQ454 Год назад
@@raulepure9840 in Aromanian is ”pimintu”-more probable that was the word spoken in the Eastern Romance.
@Yanzdorloph
@Yanzdorloph Год назад
There's also the African Romance language of North Africa, it was still spoken centuries after the muslim conquest, and may have still existed in remote places in North africa up to the 15-16th century
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
I talk about it in either part 3 or part 4, check it out
@tinovainamoinen4717
@tinovainamoinen4717 3 года назад
There is a website with roughly 3600 Istro-Romanian words & i believe some basic grammar instructions recorded but it's in Croatian so yeah.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 3 года назад
That's still cool though, also I love Croatian, I might learn it some day.
@tinovainamoinen4717
@tinovainamoinen4717 3 года назад
@@CheLanguages Croatian is pretty hard, though if you know a Slavic language already and Italian it'll be much easier since Croatian did get hit with a lot of Italian influence
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 3 года назад
@@tinovainamoinen4717 I know about the Italian influence. Not to sound cocky, but I won't find it difficult, I know a tiny bit of it already.
@tinovainamoinen4717
@tinovainamoinen4717 3 года назад
@@CheLanguages ah, yeah if you know about that I think it should be relatively easy to learn
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 3 года назад
I went to Croatia some years ago, I was only a small kid but for whatever reason, I took it upon myself to learn as much Croatian as possible when I was there. As I got older and got interested in languages, my interest was sparked and out of this curiosity I studied it again for a few weeks, but I stopped as I had 'more important' languages on the go. Perhaps I will return to it someday though.
@whereswesker5442
@whereswesker5442 5 дней назад
The fun fact is that Ramania its the only country which use the name of the Rome! And how the call they self's Români witch basically means Romans
@enricolodolo5413
@enricolodolo5413 2 года назад
You can find several istroromanian texts in the italian version of wikipédia
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
This is helpful thank you!
@VladVlad-ul1io
@VladVlad-ul1io Год назад
@@CheLanguages it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua_istrorumena
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
@@VladVlad-ul1io aha, this helps! Thank you!
@VladVlad-ul1io
@VladVlad-ul1io Год назад
@@CheLanguages welcome!
@matejgregor1019
@matejgregor1019 2 года назад
5:27 to me it seems like this language is heavily influenced by croatian. i am a slovak which is a slavic language just like croatian and i could recognize by similarities in words that the text is the lord's prayer.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
Of course much Slavic influence hath entered the language due to it living in a Slavic Sprachbund. But overall, it is a Romance language in grammar, a bit like how English is Germanic but hath many words of foreign origin. Love Slovakia by the way!
@mihaelac2472
@mihaelac2472 2 года назад
As a Romanian, I too could understand parts of it, especially in the beginning
@johnleake5657
@johnleake5657 Год назад
Aromanian must be Vlach (or Wallachian), as known to most readers of the traveller Patrick Leigh Fermor. Vlach is apparently a wider term, but the Vlach speakers he encountered would have been speaking Aromanian.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
There is a link historically, yes
@johnleake5657
@johnleake5657 Год назад
What do you mean 'there is a link historically', @CheLanguages ? _Vlach_ is what he calls both the people and the language, and it is the traditional name for the people in Demotic Greek (they are _Βλάχοι_ ) while their endonym is (according to Greek Wikipedia) _Ρεμένοι._ I think the term is used more widely by some scholars, but Leigh-Fermor (who incidentally also had some competence in Romanian, I believe) stuck with Greek usage.
@johnleake5657
@johnleake5657 Год назад
Ah, maybe you meant between Vlach and Walachian. I didn't realize that was disputed - I thought the latter a Latinization of an earlier form of the former.
@lunadeargint540
@lunadeargint540 Год назад
@@johnleake5657 They are not disputed; Walachian is a English translation of Vlach, and it designates an inhabitant of Walachia (Țara Românească=The Romanian Land); Vlach was the exonym used by the Slavs to designate a Romance speaker for instance, the names for "Italy" in Polish and Hungarian are derived from it. The Romanians have always called themselves Romanians - români and Aromanians called themselves Aromanians -armãnji/rrãmãnji ; it is the peoples around them that called them Vlach.
@lawrencep8923
@lawrencep8923 Год назад
I want to Guernésiaise to that list. It's the language of my home and I grew up speaking a bit of it with my grandpa (although more often in English/french) and to this day I can speak a bit of it decently. There's only around 200 native speakers left, most of whom are very old. A couple thousand can speak the language, but again they are mostly older generations. It would such a shame to lose such a beautiful language, I've got the dictionary and I started trying to digitise it a while back but I've been so caught up with uni work that I haven't had the chance, but I'd love to come back to it. J'ôimaï le langue dé ma p'tite île, c'ést la pus biaotaï dé le tché
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
I still need to visit Guernsey (and Jersey too), they are two places in my own country I've never been. Perhaps I'll talk about Guernesiaise and Jerrais in a future video
@malarobo
@malarobo Год назад
Very interesting. Digitize a vocabulary and a grammar on internet is the only way to save these endangered beautiful languages.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
@@malarobo It is indeed, and there are many people working to do just that with many of the world's languages
@malarobo
@malarobo Год назад
@@CheLanguages I know and your interesting videos are proof of that. You do a great job stimulating curiosity about these endangered languages.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
@@malarobo Ah thank you! I actually got one of those linguists who is helping to document and revitalize a language to help me with my latest video, which is coming out tomorrow. Stay tuned!
@deacudaniel1635
@deacudaniel1635 Год назад
Although Romanian is still in a good situation, being official in 2 countries and having millions of native speakers, compared to the endangered Romance languages such as Istriot, but I'm still jealous Romanian is not as appreciated as western Romance languages and we are still mistaken as Slavs.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
That's why I included it here! It's often sidelined which is a shame because it's one of the most beautiful Romance languages in my opinion. If you want to see more videos like this, check out the other parts I made!
@christopherellis2663
@christopherellis2663 Год назад
ă is just another way of writing ą, it is the same as õ in Estonian. Also has th dh nj lj and y ,as in Greek gamma. Istro- R is a creole of R and Croatian. There is also Megslo-R
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
I talk about Meglano-Romanian in my Part 2
@RafaelSCalsaverini
@RafaelSCalsaverini Год назад
It's funny that as a portuguese speaker I could recognize that the Istro-Romanian text is clearly the Lord's Prayer but it's missing the "hallowed be thy name" part. I don't speak any Eastern Romance language, but it's very clear: Čače nostru = Pai Nosso (Our Father) kar le sti en čer = que estais no céu (who are in heaven) Probably čer is cognate to céu (sky/heaven) and sti is cognate to estar (to be). neka se spuné volja a te, kum en čer, asá si pre pemint = seja feita a tua vontade, assim na terra como nos céus (thy will be done, in earth as in heaven) Here probably volja is a cognate to vontade (will, voluntas in Latin). This "j" is probably read as an the y in the word "yes". And so on. Incredible that one can capture so much just from speaking a distantly related language, that has been diverging from mine by probably more than 1200 years.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Interesting, I didn't think a Portuguese speaker would be able to understand this tbh
@norielgames4765
@norielgames4765 5 месяцев назад
I've managed to list 23, one if which is clerical latin because it's still used in the Vatican, and one of which is interlingua, a conlang, so I don't know if those count.
@norielgames4765
@norielgames4765 5 месяцев назад
I know there's multiple creoles but I couldn't remember the name of any of them so sorry.
@irenemcnamara9699
@irenemcnamara9699 Год назад
I would like to hear more on Slavic languages.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Have you seen my Slavic Languages videos?
@parkerwynne1341
@parkerwynne1341 Год назад
I had a Romanian uncle and I have a Aromanian aunt (from Albania), I've been wondering if they were to meet and speak their native languages if they would understand each other.
@canadian6167
@canadian6167 Год назад
How about your parents?Can you tell us who they are?
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
That would certainly be interesting, I think they possibly could interact but with some difficulty judging by comments people left here
@nebulicdisaster3351
@nebulicdisaster3351 2 года назад
The Eastern Romance branch has broken my heart.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
How so?
@nebulicdisaster3351
@nebulicdisaster3351 2 года назад
@@CheLanguages I mean it in a way that they are so fragile and so little of them left.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
@@nebulicdisaster3351 It is sad. Check out my other videos, I talk about more of them.
@ChristianJiang
@ChristianJiang 2 года назад
Lol that thumbnail… I read it as “V (=very) forgotten languages”
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
Haha, I always use Numeri Romani whenever I can.
@Krulod
@Krulod Год назад
also romanian is spoken in bucovina, ukraine, especially in Чернівці (Czerniwci)
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Yes, I've seen it on maps
@MikeS29
@MikeS29 Год назад
If I had a guess, afamados sounds like "famous" and proua sounds like "pride" - these appear to make sense given the context of the sample for Mirandese.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Yeah, lots of other people already told me. Thank you!
@viorele1264
@viorele1264 2 года назад
Romance Languages is easy because use many vovels
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
I agree, their grammar is also simple compared to Slavic Languages.
@remi609
@remi609 Год назад
What suprised me was that even though I don't speak any romance languages, I perfectly understood istro-romanian. But it's literally spoken inside of croatia so I guess It's not wierd I understand it
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
That's really interesting indeed! How is this?
@remi609
@remi609 Год назад
@@CheLanguages I find it very interesting and I'd be cool to try and learn it. I think of myself as pretty good with languages and since I have a pretty good base since I speak croatian i think I can learn it by the end of the year. Interesting video nonetheless!
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
@@remi609 if you do learn it, let me know! Good luck!
@remi609
@remi609 Год назад
@@CheLanguages thanks, I will!
@RicardoBaptista33
@RicardoBaptista33 Год назад
5:57 What flag is this to represent Las Tierras de Miranda?
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
The flag of Terra da Miranda....
@RicardoBaptista33
@RicardoBaptista33 Год назад
@@CheLanguages I'm Portuguese and I've never seen this flag, I live in the border region with Las Tierras de Miranda and they have no flag.
@SenhorKoringa
@SenhorKoringa 7 месяцев назад
Romanian is only forgotten if you’re not from Europe. The rest are essentially just dialects of Romanian Portuguese Italian French or Spanish.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 7 месяцев назад
Well, you better check out the other videos in the series and see if those languages are any more forgotten for you
@theromanshogunate5716
@theromanshogunate5716 3 года назад
I'm trying to find a way to learn lombard my ancestral language and use it to creat a conlangage for now I'm using brithnig cos it a British romance (it's a conlanguage) to create conlanguage
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 3 года назад
Do any of your family speak Lombardian?
@theromanshogunate5716
@theromanshogunate5716 3 года назад
@@CheLanguages my grandad and his cousin
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 3 года назад
@@theromanshogunate5716 the best way to learn a language is through immersion with native speakers. I suggest you learn from them. Ask them to have conversations with one another so you can hear how it sounds and begin to pick cognates out of that conversation.
@robertjohnson5838
@robertjohnson5838 Год назад
Heck yeah I want a part 2!!! Tell 'em about Romansch in Switzerland, and Vlach in Albania, and for that matter the possibility that Albanian itself is a lost Romance language! Thanks to you, I LEARNED something today. Awesome.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
I made a part 2, 3 and 4 over a year ago...
@robertjohnson5838
@robertjohnson5838 Год назад
@@CheLanguages I just saw them after my comment. Congrats, they're great, I'm even more pessimistic, however, as a resoult of your videos, of even the current nation states of Europe to remain intact, much less of the EEC, EU or NATO to remain intact. I don't even see how members of the military in agiven natikn communicate with each other except perhaps by obviating the problem via different regional divisions.
@julianfejzo4829
@julianfejzo4829 Год назад
Unlikely given that the structure of Albanian does not derive from Latin, having a huge amount of loanwords from Latin doesn't make a language Romance, vocabulary isn't everything
@robertjohnson5838
@robertjohnson5838 Год назад
@@julianfejzo4829 But the word for "speak" is pretty basic. It's not slme exotic word or tech word, it's basic. Yet falo in Portuguese is I speak, fola in Albanian is I spoke. Dayyummm, that one woke me up!
@julianfejzo4829
@julianfejzo4829 Год назад
@@robertjohnson5838 fola is the past tense of the verb flas or flet, which is not a Latin loanword but a native one. The Portuguese one comes from the Latin fabulare, while the Albanian flet/flat comes from the Proto-Albanian *spala and is a cognate of the English spell, so not only your argument doesn't stand up but you also used a native Albanian term instead of a Latin derived one to make it
@Afonso2001br
@Afonso2001br 2 года назад
Written Mirandese e is very similar to Portuguese as it was written 500 years ago or more.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
I know that Portguese had written influence which is why it kinda looks like Portuguese but is closer to Spanish. This is very intriguing though, could someone who has studied Old Portuguese easily understand Mirandese?
@skurinski
@skurinski 2 года назад
@@CheLanguages for sure. Older portuguese looks very similar.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
@@skurinski I would imagine so. Interesting.
@bilbohob7179
@bilbohob7179 2 года назад
@@CheLanguages older Portuguese is Galician.. And old castillian was similar too. Modern Portuguese and castillian have evolutioned a liitle bit more than modern Galician. Mirandes is the same that astur-leonés but influenced by modern portuguese phonetics, still it is the same thing.
@desertwolf8089
@desertwolf8089 2 года назад
I've heard Hungarians use Italian words like Signore, Signora, and Signorina.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
Only 19% of the modern Hungarian vocabulary is Uralic. They adopted many words from Turkic, Germanic, Greek, Slavic and Romance origins.
@florinalfonse4163
@florinalfonse4163 Год назад
@@CheLanguages Multe provin din mongola!
@qaz1001
@qaz1001 Год назад
@@florinalfonse4163 *Turkic
@learnurduwithsara1068
@learnurduwithsara1068 Год назад
wao didn't know any of those languages are romance languages other than Romanian.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Check out my other videos, I'm sure you'll be just as amazed, I made another 3 videos on Romance languages!
@bernarrcoletta7419
@bernarrcoletta7419 Год назад
Romanian is an interesting language. I speak Italian and I heard a couple sentences. The first sentence was perfectly understandable, the second sentence could have been in Polish, for all I knew.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Now that's surprising to hear actuallt
@naturalianoss
@naturalianoss 6 месяцев назад
we do not understand a word of polish lol we de have slavic words but that is like 15% of the total vocabulary and the rest is latin so it is your problem you couldn't understand..Of course you being a proud italian you don't like to know that our languages are related because you most probably have a dislike for the romanian people haha
@andrewjennings7306
@andrewjennings7306 2 года назад
If you can understand mirandese does that not make it nore of a dialect of Portuguese than a language?
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
It's actually closer to Spanish than Portguese, I understand it because of my familiarity with Romance languages, especially Latin.
@niall5821
@niall5821 7 месяцев назад
Jews in Turkey spoke an archaic castellan I think
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 7 месяцев назад
You're right, and they still do. Türkiye is one of the only places where Ladino survives "in the wild". The Ladino spoken in Türkiye is it's own dialect with lots of Turkish influence, and there's even a Ladino newspaper in Türkiye today called Şalom!
@YU-mv3ku
@YU-mv3ku 2 года назад
In area Yugo-Slavia egsisting koga of worbs from roman language...
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
What?
@Dedolamata
@Dedolamata Год назад
We are the Latin family but yet a few of our brothers deny it or don’t like it….. La familia Latina.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Sì!
@naturalianoss
@naturalianoss 6 месяцев назад
f%ck them
@baileygreene9103
@baileygreene9103 16 дней назад
Anyone else come mostly to see if dalmatian made the list?
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 15 дней назад
Check out the other videos, I have it there...
@macvideo
@macvideo 2 года назад
Not missing Languedoc?
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
Maybe in Part 3?
@somedude8468
@somedude8468 Год назад
I understanded mirandese as a spanish speaker, here is my attempt to traduce it to spanish, then english: -spanish: muchas lenguas tienen pruebas de sus pergaminos antiguos, de la literatura escrita hace cientos de años y de escritores muy famosos, hay/hubo? Banderas de esas lenguas. Mas otras que no se pudo tener nada de eso, como en el caso de la lengua mirandesa. -english: lots of languages have proofs of their old pergamins, of the literature written hundred of years ago and of very famous writters (was?) Flags of that language. More other that could not have nothing of that, like the case of the mirandese language. It aint perfect, but it is what i got out of it!
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
I think that is the original text, though it was over a year and a half ago when I made this video. Thank you for your comment!
@somedude8468
@somedude8468 Год назад
@@CheLanguages yeah, maybe pin it so other ppl can see it? Great content overall!
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
@@somedude8468 I already have a pinned comment on this video, only one person can get it
@somedude8468
@somedude8468 Год назад
@@CheLanguages oh ok
@somedude8468
@somedude8468 Год назад
@@CheLanguages just realized, "che languages" are you argentinian? Porque yo si gil jajajanaja
@LeroyUrocyon
@LeroyUrocyon 2 месяца назад
The Sardinian language and Romansh are the most forgotten Romance languages, but there is one that became unjustly extinct: the Dalmatian language, which sounds like a mixture of Italian and Romanian. Istriot is nothing like Dalmatian, but rather resembles Italian.
@mrAMMW
@mrAMMW Год назад
as a romanian, to me aromanian sounds like romanian without cases and obviously a lot of greek words, while istriot seems like a perfect blend between italian grammar and romanian vocab.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages Год назад
Sounds pretty accurate from what I can tell
@roboticceltic2388
@roboticceltic2388 Год назад
@@CheLanguages There are cases in Aromanian but still many NEVER cared to write the language and verb conjugations and declensions down! Mainly because they are wearing special horns in their heads and are literally the c word! There is nothing wrong with Aromanian language, it is an incredibly rich language, there is MUCH wrong with Aromanians who usually are sellouts and suffer inferiority complex. But some of the flaws come from being unjusted and not having a country. Or having many. Aromanians become integrated and become the one with the majority like in Greece but still suffer from severe psychological issues and inferiority complex!
@georgios_5342
@georgios_5342 2 года назад
1:31 we'd like that to be the case, but I think Romania has a population of around 19 million actually.
@wallachia4797
@wallachia4797 2 года назад
19.4 in Romania, 2.6 in Moldova, 4.5 in diaspora (living abroad) = 26,5 million total NATIVE Romanian speakers. Another 4 million people learned it as a second language abroad, bringing the total number of speakers to 30,5 million So yes, the number in the video is wrong but 19 million is also off by quite a bit.
@georgios_5342
@georgios_5342 2 года назад
@@wallachia4797 yes I'm not against what you said. I said that Romania has 19 million people not 31 million. But yes as a sum Romanian speakers are of course more than that.
@CheLanguages
@CheLanguages 2 года назад
I got the numbers from Wikipedia. Take the battle there, I know it is not always the most reliable source but that is what it said...
@georgios_5342
@georgios_5342 2 года назад
@@CheLanguages yes, but it might be some mistake. There are not 30 million people in Romania but approximately 20. That's all I said
@Ge0rGi.
@Ge0rGi. 2 года назад
@@georgios_5342 he was talking about the total number of Romanian speakers from planet earth 🌎
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