5 Secrets to Great Glue-ups

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⚙️ EPISODE #227: It’s the moment of truth, you’ve done all this work and now it’s time to glue up. It could all come together perfectly or there is the possibility of disaster. In this episode I show you my top five secrets to achieving a great glue-up. I demonstrate this method as we glue up, live and in living color, part of a new workbench top I’m building…check it out to see it turns into a disaster! (Closed captions)
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@joeadams8975 4 месяца назад

Just saw this on a Titebond video. To remove glue from clamps mix in equal parts water, vinegar and acetone. Brush on with a wire brush then wait a minute and scrub off. It gets into the groves in the bars and comes off easily. Great tip.

@John_vDongen 4 месяца назад

Hi Tom! Love your presentation! I can only say that, as a self employed chair maker in the early 70's we used animal glue that was on the boil mostly every day. You can only imagine the frustration we had when it come to framing, as each chair from start to finish in the clamps took around 2-minutes before the glue set like stone. In the odd case, we had to knock the chair apart, cleaning the old glue off before starting again. When PVA was later made availabe was a god-send as it made life a hell of a lot easier. Being water-based and a damp rag was differant than using a Chizel to clean the odd squeaze out...

@EpicWoodworking 4 месяца назад

Wow John, I can’t imaging the stress to get things together and clamped up quickly using hide glue like that! My mentor told me similar stories since back when he got started in woodworking in the mid-late ‘30’s he told me the first thing they did every morning when they got to the shop was to get the heat going on the glue pot! He said the same as you about how great it was when the PVA glues became available. Thanks for sharing that! 👍😎

@horsetowater 5 месяцев назад

The video i was waiting for! Much appreciated advice.

@EpicWoodworking 4 месяца назад

Thank you! 👍

@williammagee7514 5 месяцев назад

Again GREAT video and i like your approach of mixing a bit of background with your teaching, helps to make it sink in. Following is something I think others might benefit from: A problem a lot of us of face, we are making a workbench and in need of a flat surface to work on in which to build the workbench. So in search we go, old doors are great if we have one, I did not have one. I ended up using half of a 20' extension ladder and screwed a piece of MDF to it. Yea a few screw holes in the ladder that really did not matter and I ended up with a great temporary FLAT surface. Saw horses support the ladder just fine. 2:24

@jerrystark6766 5 месяцев назад

This is going to be a great bench. Keep on keeping on!

@EpicWoodworking 4 месяца назад

Thanks Jerry, I’m getting excited to see it finished myself! 😎

@ApexWoodworks 4 месяца назад

All good points. The only difference in my wide panel glue up system is to have every other clamp coming up from the bottom, which is a point you'd mentioned, but didn't follow through with.

@EpicWoodworking 4 месяца назад

Thanks 👍 Yes, I do routinely alternate with the Ibeams as well. I meant to mention if I forgot to in the video, with the type of clamp I was using, the heavy F Style clamps, they offer good central pressure and I could see the pieces were staying flat on the straight supports so it worked out well not to need to alternate in this case. But whenever I glue up panels with the Ibeams, I use the Ibeams as the truing alignment to insure flatness and alternate clamps. Thanks again 👍

@dpmeyer4867 4 месяца назад

Thanks

@dannywilsher4165 5 месяцев назад

Last bench top I made was with 3x6 x 8' boards that I found washed up on the shore down by Galveston, Texas. I think it was a dock that got destroyed in a hurricane. I drilled and tapped three 1/2 inch threads in the board that went on the front. I drilled three 1/2 inch holes through the other three boards being careful to align them so the 1/2 inch all thread I used would keep all the boards flat. I threaded the all thread into the first board and slid the other three on the all thread. I then put nuts and washers on and tightened them and squeezed the boards together. I cut the all thread even with the back of the bench top. It is a very sturdy top and it looks awesome!

@EpicWoodworking 4 месяца назад

Wow, that’s sounds like an awesome bench! And think of the history in those planks. Did you find out what kind of wood it was? Thanks for watching, and telling your story 👍

@TrueMagisterium 4 месяца назад

I used the same method on one of my benches.

@anditheke7494 3 месяца назад

Try Painter's tape to prevent glue from dripping onto the clamps directly. It can be removed easily afterwards.

@barebones9 4 месяца назад

Am going clamp digging.

@Nissan300zxshowcar 3 месяца назад

Cool video, quick question, what did you mean you 'dress the edge before gluing those 2 pieces near the end of the video? Thanks

@EpicWoodworking 3 месяца назад

Thanks Michael! Dressing a surface or edge is just a term for preparing a surface or edge, making it flat and true straight and square, usually by jointing/planing by hand or machine. Hope that makes sense. Thanks for watching! 👍

@Tilburger72 4 месяца назад

I like your video’s and explanation. Now I need a better glue up table and I will check your workbench build! Would it for less experienced people better to use biscuits or domino’s for lining up? Thanks for sharing

@rick91443 5 месяцев назад

Have never used TiteBond Products living here in France. They're EVERYWHERE it seems back home in the states. Does anyone remember "Elmer's Glue?" Showing my age?....Great topic...cheers...richard of Normandy

@tpolarich6039 5 месяцев назад

Hi. Matt Estela ran a cambered edge plane down the center of each board before glue up to get a tight seam. Ramon Valdez takes a belt sander with an old belt and runs it over the hardened glue to soften it thus avoiding chip out.

@ApexWoodworks 4 месяца назад

I'm not a huge fan of either suggestion. First off, start with dead flat boards and you'll have no need to do anything to the already tight joint before glueing them together. How anyone would suggest that hand planing a camber down the centre of each board will do anything to improve the seam line of a dead flat joint, is beyond me. And as far as the second idea of running a sander over a surface that still needs to be planed (whether by hand or machine), I'd not do so and for the simple reason that abrasive particles from the sanding process will become embedded into the surface, and therfore dull the knives. I respect both of these craftspersons you mention, but like every one of us who've been around the business long enough, we all develop practices that for one reason or another, resonate with us... even if there's no logic behind them.

@Ramplcro 5 месяцев назад

Why not titebond hide glue? I have the ultimate and hide glue because i looked for glue with longest open/assembly time possible but i do find that hide glue is more brittle and it's reversable. So in big panels or surfaces maybe more elastic glue (ultimate) would be better. Hide glue could be better for future potential disassembly/repair and instrument builts. Curious to hear your thoughts.

@1deerndingo 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for posting this. I'm in Australia and missed the live event s per usual. Will you hand flatten that top or put the two through a thicknesser separately

@stevelawrence3094 8 дней назад

The thickness planer will not square up all four edges, only mimick what wood goes through. I have an 8" jointer but find my No 5 1/2 through No. -8 better than my jointer for precision (just need need to get better at using my power tools but do use them as a time saver.

@philiphettel8237 4 месяца назад

Please show me that Felder in use😊

@RightHandShot 5 месяцев назад

Why not use parallel clamps?

@glencrandall7051 4 месяца назад

46.9 K subscribers, 7.9 K views, 478 Likes, and only 22 comments. I wonder why more subscribers don't watch? A lot don't click the "Like" either. Even fewer bother to comment. About the same ratio on all the videos I watch. I wonder why. On this one I think there is a bit too much patter. Some good points about glue up's. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂

@BobMuir100 4 месяца назад

You are so correct…….far too much patter that’s of no value. Giggles. No clamps as promised……..no finished project! Bob England

@jackspratt7795 4 месяца назад

Someone ask how to get glue off the clamps. Vinegar will dissolve most any if not all PVA glues. Keep it wet by either soaking it or keep a wet rag soaked with vinegar on the glue and over night and unless it is really thick it will wipe off. Wax is a good way to keep it from sticking I got the vinegar trick from Rollie Johnson and not long after I was in a Wood Craft store. They had a box full of parallel jaw clamps for sale for $10. They were covered with glue from years of classes I grabbed them and ran to the cash register. A couple of clerks grinned and said, what are you going to build with those? I said I didn't know but I would think of something. They could hardly keep from laughing out loud thinking I had bought a box of boat anchors.

@EpicWoodworking 4 месяца назад

Awesome advice, thank you! I know Rollie, great guy, and you know it’s good info if it came from Rollie. So what is the end of your story, did you put rags soaked with vinegar on them, did the glue dissolve away off the clamps, are they almost as good as new? Thanks again! 👍😎

@jackspratt7795 4 месяца назад

Yes Tom, I kept the clamps wet with vinegar soaked rags over night, hit them with a tooth brush the next day to clean the teeth on the rails, easy clean up and worked fine. Best $10 I ever spent. I like Titebond III for most glue ups because of the longer open time and I like to clean up squeeze out with a sharp chisel when it get to the plastic stage. The original gets hard as a rock if you wait too long. The chisel trick can leave glue in open grain but vinegar and a tooth brush works there too. Really enjoyed the video tour and interviews with notables at last years NH Furniture Masters show. Hope you can do that again this year. Great camera work there, the tour of the Woodpeckers plant and everything else. Cheers to you and the camera lady, Be Safe. @@EpicWoodworking

@PaganWizard 5 месяцев назад

I missed the live stream tonight. For glue-ups like this, my new favorite is four way pressure clamps, but I didn't assemble them the conventional way. Rather than ripping a 2x4 in half, and using that for the stretchers, I went to a big box store and got some uni-strut, and used it in place of the wooden stretchers. There are two different types of strut to choose from, you can get what I used, uni-strut, which is thinner than super strut. I used this video as my guide for building my clamps ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-y_EMBOYlN54.html I am so impressed with them, that I want to build more of them. The only downside to these clamps, that I can think of is, I'm not sure if they'd work with lumber as thick as what you used for this workbench.

@bxb590 4 месяца назад

What was the wood you were using?

@EpicWoodworking 4 месяца назад

I am building this workbench from soft maple. You can follow along if you are interested, check out our webpage, epicwoodworking.com…not a “sales based” website, lots of links to information and courses if that interests you. 👍

@jjw2909 5 месяцев назад

Just put painters tape on them.

@wvo72 4 месяца назад

Valid points, but why call them secrets? I aleays learned that product knowledge is basic practise on whatever project you re planni g to carry out. But for "newbies " in woodworking its good info.

@EpicWoodworking 4 месяца назад

Thanks good point. I tried to emphasize in the video they weren’t as much secrets in the sense that they are “little known”but more fundamentals of getting great results. Thanks for watching and for your insight 👍

@garybadger325 5 месяцев назад

Great video. You mentioned how to keep the glue from sticking using packing tape. Do you have any recomendation on how to remove glue from the bar on the clamps??????

@horsetowater 5 месяцев назад

I just use a scraper when it's dry and I also lightly wipe a cloth with some spray silicone on the shaft of larger sash clamps occasionally enough stays on it to prevent stiction

@horsetowater 5 месяцев назад

@26:00 he does mention wax too

@ApexWoodworks 4 месяца назад

Wax the clamps beforehand

@jackspratt7795 4 месяца назад

Vinegar will dissolve it. Just keep rags wet with vinegar on the glue over night and it will wipe off.

@walter7372 4 месяца назад

Thank you so much. And now on to our next subject - "The Bloody Obvious"

@EpicWoodworking 4 месяца назад

😂 Obviously not a fit for you and where you are in your experience and knowledge. Not everyone comes with such experience and knowledge. Maybe you can find other more advanced videos I have made that would suit you, and there’s lots of other channels out there too. 👍

@heartscards6335 4 месяца назад

sounds like a soap opera

@felipegerlach3954 4 месяца назад

😒 'Promo SM'

@ericerf6837 5 месяцев назад

Wow. I’m speechless by this last comment but I guess that’s what he wants….that he does not comprehend the value of what the instruction offers verbally along with the physical demonstration makes me confused on why he is here. Perhaps Tom could offer another version where he just mimes the movements and that would satisfy the commenter.

@BobMuir100 4 месяца назад

I don’t know which comment you are referring to?

@chuckhansen5325 4 месяца назад

I understand what your saying about glue time but if you can't glue up 9 pieces in less then 10 minutes you need to learn alittle more

@EpicWoodworking 4 месяца назад

Thanks man, normally I would. But I was gluing this up for a bench top and it is preferable to glue it up in two stages so you can do another light flattening and planing before t gluing up to the full width so that handling and flattening the final top is easier. 👍

@BobMuir100 4 месяца назад

Note: A lot of the ‘click bait’ in the title is it bull shit. Pretty poor in fact…….nothing new, nothing exciting and we didn’t see a finished piece. To see this done very very look through Bents catalogue. I did find it strange that one rehearsed the glue but obviously not the RU-vid presentation?? What was the giggling by the way? A joke we weren’t allowed to share? I also thought you were doing an ‘up and over’ clamp……..did you? Bob England

@CameraLady 4 месяца назад

Hi Bob, thought I'd chime in here with an explanation about the "giggle." You're right, that must seem misplaced at times due to after-edits. But that's me 🙋‍♀, I'm the person working the camera and posing the questions. Truth is these episodes are originally filmed live, so no, it's not scripted. After the livestream I try to edit them so the content is more digestible to those looking for topical info after the fact. Admittedly it's like trying to morph one type of format into another, but we do our best so the material is freely available for anyone interested in some tips. We have been doing this for 5 years with many other episodes you might enjoy, or not. Sometimes it hits for folks, sometimes it doesn't. So take or leave, but either way, thanks for stopping by. ~Kris

@davids.1838 4 месяца назад

I find it interesting that you complain about something that is free! Watch or don't watch but stop whining. And we all know which comment was referenced for crying out loud.

@BobMuir100 4 месяца назад

@@davids.1838 dear me, you don’t understand much about feedback do you??!! The person concerned provided a full and very pleasant reply so if they aren’t bothered and actually seek comments I don’t feel they need you being some sort of Sheriff!! Nice to see you don’t criticise……oh but you do! You just did!! Why if you feel comments are bad why are you cruising them?? Weird

@BobMuir100 4 месяца назад

By the way what is free? And what comment? Where was winging?

@BobMuir100 4 месяца назад

@@CameraLady thank you for your clear reply. I do like the content it’s just not melding outcome and promises? Something like that Thanks again Bob

@johnisley1285 5 месяцев назад

You might have some great ideas and suggestions but you may want to cut back on so much talk. I get bored by time the time you get to the point.

@maxjones1066 5 месяцев назад

Amen

@pauljenkinson8798 4 месяца назад

@johnisley, sounds like your a newbe to EW,,, what you hear and see is what you get from Tom and Camera lady,, his teaching method has developed over the decades and delivered with a smattering of jokes, self deprecating antidotes and corny references,,, dude it's woodworking,, if you get bored you're in the wings place

@davids.1838 4 месяца назад

watch or don't watch but stop whining

@mohammadfarhanmir929 4 месяца назад

That talk is what i think is very helpful. Lots of videos of building stuff without talk. His videos give q feeling ir getting some in person coaching.

@thomasinlondon2849 Месяц назад

I love the talk as much as the lesson, I come for both and hope it will always be this way.

@laszloujvari2938 4 месяца назад

Wow! Half an hour of my life which I’ll never get bsck a lot of verbal diarrhea and not really anything revolutionary or new presented. Glue, clamp, make sure youre on a level surface, duh really? Why’s that?

@EpicWoodworking 4 месяца назад

These are recorded live so yes, I am talking most of the time given there are typically 400 or so people watching and chatting in questions while live. You are probably too advanced for me, no worries, I don’t expect to please everyone. Lots of other channels out there 👍

@jgarehart89 4 месяца назад

Videos are just far too long for information provided

@EpicWoodworking 4 месяца назад

Thanks, you have a point. These “Shop Night Live” videos are recorded live, usually with around 400 people tuned in live so there is naturally a more real-life and conversational flow to the video. I try to keep them to 30 minutes, then there is some follow up editing. So that’s probably why it views that way when you are likely to pre-recorded tightly edited content. You might enjoy tuning in live sometime, we hear many say it’s a nice change from pre-recorded and they can chat in comments and questions live too. If interested you can see more at epicwoodworking.com Either way, thanks for watching 👍😎

@jgarehart89 4 месяца назад

@@EpicWoodworking ah, I understand. I will have to catch a show sometime then