5 Things Every Strive Player Needs To Know About Xrd

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The Guilty Gear Xrd Rev 2 Rollback Beta drops tomorrow! This game is VERY different from Strive, so here are 5 things you should know about it if you never played it before.
00:00 Intro
00:53 Throws
03:14 Weight Classes
05:04 Wake-Up Timings
07:03 Guts
10:07 Dash Breaking
11:49 Last Thoughts
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@tabkg5802 Год назад

Just remember that once danger time starts and you get send into Daisuke dimension, you're playing Strive and not Rev2

@adamswing6115 Год назад

danger time isn't strive, it's fucking mario party

@BinBintheRiceCake Год назад

Nah, everyone gets to be in the chipp zone. Everyone gets low health!

@weirdo911aw Год назад

@@adamswing6115 seethe 😂😂😂

@kaigai-nikimajikoi325 Год назад

"If you go with a open mind it'll be ok. If you try to make sense of a lot of things you'll just get angry." Jiyuna dropping some nice wisdom

@blyat8832 Год назад

A few things I'd like to add in is that, well, in my experience of playing XX and Xrd then going into strive( I sucked at the older games I am not ashamed to admit it lol),the only thing that really carries over is input commands, a few Roman cancel properties(the whole cancelling from a move mid animation part atleast) and really that's it. Xrd is an entirely different game, it's much faster, the combos are much more bombastic and longer, with way more brutal scaling. Oh, and that's not to mention the entire book you gotta learn to figure out how to fight a single character, since weight and height actually mattered in this game so certain combos or even strings won't work on every character. Basically, go into this expecting it to be a new experience, other than just being like strive, because even if a few of the mechanics are the same, it's an ENTIRELY different learning experience

@Don_Akane89 Год назад

Man, you're on fire with the uploads. Thank you for doing the heavy lifting lately & saving Xrd lol Another thing I'd also add for Strive zoomers would be that you can't throw while running. EDIT: Also, game is 50% off on Steam atm after the permanent price slash too so its hella cheap rn! Now's the time to get the game if anyone's on the fence!

@davidhursh2582 Год назад

You forgot about air tech, I've seen a lot of ppl just waiting till they fall to the floor, even on random pokes. You definitely know they come from strive.

@rogersnick17 Год назад

Thanks Jiyuna. I'm so ready to get back into Guilty Gear again. Was at CEOtaku when the loud announcement happened. This Xrd rollback resurrection is gonna be insane like BBCF's. These high tournament and locals turnouts giving everybody a reason to jump back on the game.

@aclassicaltrove Год назад

Much as I love the game, these are the sort of mechanics I emphatically don't miss, specifically weight classes and wake-up times. They aren't very obvious, the game gives you no hints about them, remembering who has what is more about memorization than about easily-guessed visual cues, and they add a degree of arbitrary inconsistency in a genre that usually doesn't take them into account. Very much cases of complexity for complexity's sake, in my opinion. EDIT: Also, while Smash has weight classes, it's also in a different iteration of the genre (that was made with them in mind), its purpose there is extremely obvious, and it's plenty easy to tell who is classified where and why just by looking at the characters.

@ANIMEILLUMINATI Год назад

Yeah, I feel the same way about old games. Want to take some parts, and leave others.

@dingo535 Год назад

As a fellow 37 year old named Andrew, I think I generally agree. I didn’t really start playing competitively until my early twenties, but I don’t feel like my mind or body has deteriorated in any significant way. Plus I play old man games like 3rd Strike primarily.

@ANIMEILLUMINATI Год назад

I'm 38 now!

@1blueeye Год назад

Rev2 is the most fun anime game to me. Didn't know rollback was coming, thanks Jiyuna. Gonna re-download it and get washed online like I always did in Guilty Gear lol

@Vnnznt Год назад

I wish hard & easy didnt carry the stigma of good & bad respectively

@rogersnick17 Год назад

Easy doesn't mean bad, essentially. I think he's simply stating that the skill-ceiling and options in the old games are ridiculously extensive, compared to Strive. The video's just more prepping people.

@blyat8832 Год назад

Who said that? Easy doesn't mean bad, it's just a lot of og players like harder difficulty games and mechanics due to the reward they give you. Skill ceiling and making games simpler and easier isn't a bad thing, it's what you do with it that's what matters. You could do the right thing like strive, and take the old mechanics and retool them into a new game, or do the bad thing like mk11, making it a slow and just downright boring mess that is so lame

@Vnnznt Год назад

@@blyat8832 im not saying anyone said that, nor Jiyuna saying that. my statement was kind of irrelevant for the video but what im talking about is the general stigma of hard = good and easy = bad in the fgc

@doncinati7644 Год назад

@@Vnnznt you know what would my perfect fighting game? A game that ANYONE could get into, and get familiar with really quickly & intuitively as well as have fun without sweating so much. The catch would be that it would be the gameplay would be so deep, complex & unique that people would be playing it for many years to come

@IfWhatYes Год назад

@@rogersnick17 its not really the skill ceiling being higher that hes talking about, it's the unnecessary knowledge checks locking the skill floor to new players. There's things that are harder in strive than xrd, like confirming hkd off of counterhit vs normal hit jab. In fact a significant amount of the challenge for learning to play mid level in this game as a fg player has the same problem as tekken, you'll be stuck on knowledge checks a lot longer than skill checks will hold you back

@ZzigZaG00NIN Год назад

stylish mode is pretty cool starting off sometimes picking a character and just pressing buttons in stylish can get you pretty far lol

@nowaylater6950 Год назад

Stylish mode using Potemkin. Just walk up and Buster 😂. No input needed

@CompressionPolice Год назад

Also air teching is a thing. I believe Strive always has hit stun until the opponent lands.

@NurseLee Год назад

Great video! This reminds me of the Story where newer folks love the new Monster Hunter World Series, and they wanted to try out the older games of Monster Hunter, and of course, lots of folks, content creators, etc. had to make videos & warn the newer audience that "They are not the same." The New & The Old Monster Hunter games are massively different." Keep up the great work Jiyuna! Take care!

@nelomalkevain4129 Год назад

Jiyuna you are doing God's work. I wish I had this tips when I was learning the game back on the ps3

@onehitwonders7729 Год назад

I wish I had this when I first started this accursed game. I swear, the throws one RESONATED with my soul. I use to run up meaty 2P from like 4 inches away and Ino threw me. I was like “What The Hell? Game broken”

@ANIMEILLUMINATI Год назад

Yupppp

@8-Frames Год назад

The awesome thing is that this game has a 50% discount now on Steam, so now is a great time to get it. Thank you for the content Jiyuna as always.

@ANIMEILLUMINATI Год назад

Grab it now before the Beta.

@yo..9584 Год назад

Thankyou for the resource hope to see more in the future 🙏

@coolfish420 Год назад

I played xrd but man do I not miss the specificity in combos that you had to do. It's awesome that it's back though

@beybladetunada5697 Год назад

Downloading it RN do more videos these are helpful

@ivsart Год назад

It's chaos, like a real fight!

@wolfven4623 Год назад

Played Leo in Xrd, tried him in Strive. Have to re-learn Xrd again fml.

@CHEYMIX Год назад

Good video (fuck that wake up timing shit lol)

@veenseta5162 Год назад

You seem so happy in this video. I wish you the best.

@ANIMEILLUMINATI Год назад

I love teaching videos, I wish they performed better.

@kirby2567 Год назад

I really want a decent player base to linger on it, might convince Daisuke a patch isn't unwarranted I want the absolute chaos that this game would become with a dash macro

@ANIMEILLUMINATI Год назад

It will be healthy with rollback.

@weirdo911aw Год назад

its been healthy even without rollback

@Genoh_ Год назад

dash macro would completely break the game, it's never happening

@nowaylater6950 Год назад

Dash macro? Slayer would have a field day then

@vmarcelo49 Год назад

Damn this video was really helpful

@estebanacostaolivera3232 Год назад

Jiyuna will you ever show the manga collection you have in the background? I can recognize GTO, Baki and Akira but I would love to see what other series you have on the shelves

@ANIMEILLUMINATI Год назад

Ping Pong Club

@notyourscott4510 Год назад

You forgot the secret 6th rule that is gatekeeping Strive players from any GG title

@ANIMEILLUMINATI Год назад

I gatekeep Xrd "players" from Xrd.

@moonbeam2730 Год назад

sin's wake up animations are very funny

@jjh01harmon38 Год назад

THE ROLLBACK IS REAAAAAL!

@eduardoserpa1682 Год назад

It's really funny how Xrd has a ton of old game janky BS while BlazBlue (mostly) manages to feel modern at least since BBCS. Getting back into Xrd is going to feel ROUGH for a while. I think my favorite nitpick is having to FD Break before using Throw instead of just dashing and grabbing.

@Kyvel85 Год назад

...I've played this game SO MUCH and I've learned of different wakes up frames only now...AND 'OH MY GOD', THERE'S ALSO WEIGHT CLASSES LIKE A PLATFORM FIGHTERS I'M GONNA SCREAM OUT OF THE WINDOW, NO WONDER I SUCKED SO HARD!! ...no wonder I've always been a Ky main...

@NeroArisato Год назад

Tldr: pick Leo and smash buttons like you do in strive.

@ANIMEILLUMINATI Год назад

Yes.

@Ravano909 Год назад

teach me more jiyuna shishou

@wlad_95454 Год назад

Yup, throw/throw break mechanic in this game is the one thing that makes me salty...

@AdamSmasherReal Год назад

Guts matters unless you're playing as slayer then it's basically strive.

@keithsimpson2150 Год назад

the 1 frame throw/wakeup game is also true for KOF players at least coming over.

@ANIMEILLUMINATI Год назад

Yup, but that game has short hops which help.

@hobowithanukulele Год назад

Basic basic: Can't airblock ground moves unless you FD

@shycracker Год назад

Thanks lot for this tips. This clears up a lot of my confusion about some of the more absurd mechanic on the game that's hardly explained properly even on the game itself. The fact it needs someone to analyze it as third party is kinda sad though on the developer side to hide such vital features information.

@weirdo911aw Год назад

??? everything is literally taught in the tutorial and missions of the game. id say they do it even better here than on strive

@shycracker Год назад

@@weirdo911aw i haven't gone that deep into the encyclopedia of the game so i only do quick tutorial route that teaches the basic. Haven't even grasped the game fully yet.

@weirdo911aw Год назад

@@shycracker you mentioned its not explained in the game, but it is. Theres a lot to uncover and its honestly pretty good singleplayer content when you do mission mode. have fun with the beta!

@nessleepk Год назад

Who needs Rev2 when the ABA waiting room has had rollback, join me in +R the true Guilty Gear experience

@brayenmorrison3199 Год назад

Xrd Rev2 Tips -Wake Throws= Invul. Wake Up + 1frame throw. I'm gonna have to remember that. (It's gonna feel weird when using (HS) for grab instead of the Dust button). Also can anyone tell me the name of BGM (or the music in the background)?

@bluemoontide Год назад

BGM is Spider's Thread (Do You Know?), its the millia vs zato theme and yeah, getting used to throw will prob be hard. i spent like a week 6Hing in people's faces when i first picked up strive lol

@just_2swift Год назад

Doesn’t using more hits build there burst more?

@Kawi31 Год назад

i feel like the big thing is dont be scared to jump in there a lot of knowledge sti transfers over and a lot of new people just like me are playing the game so theres no worry of only going against the 5000 hour johnny and elphelt

@ANIMEILLUMINATI Год назад

Best idea is always to just play!

@Sansanmar Год назад

Damn! This was REALLY interesting and Informative, I'm more compelled to play this instead of Strive!

@deckbuildercassen Год назад

honorable mentions: 6. 6P's aren't nearly as strong as they are in Strive. Some can't even be used as proper anti-airs, let alone as counterpokes. If you're used to flailing on 6P at every second of the match, it's gonna be tough. 7. Airdashes are much faster, and the screen/stages are about 40% bigger so you can't just have someone in the corner after making them block 2 normals from midscreen like in Strive. 8. Cancel windows on normals are way smaller than they are in Strive, so that stagger/frame trap pressure that all modern fighting games use so that people can feel like they're opening up their opponent by mashing on mids? doesn't happen in Xrd. Xrd requires more gameplay if you want that W.

@Flashlegz Год назад

Slayer "laughs in Strive"

@AirventOS Год назад

As a ky in strive, learning 5 different mix to mash mids in your face is peak gameplay.

@OmnipotentO Год назад

Yeah this is good stuff

@vincechan2096 Год назад

#1 Throws. That's literally my favorite skillcheck of Xrd. Making sure that my A- throw rating is better than your C+ As I try to throw may out her super whale.

@petergoodspieces130 Год назад

i completely new to Xrd and I know everyone says to stay away fro Johnny but I really really want to learn him Does anyone have some resources on how to combo each character?

@Eldred91 Год назад

I don't play Johnny but check his dustloop page and the character discord.

@petergoodspieces130 Год назад

TEACH ME MORE STUFF ABOUT XRD PLEASE

@denshoni Год назад

Everyone says they want a dash macro in Xrd until they remember Slayer exists.

@gliath888 Год назад

If making one easy character even easier to play, while also making the rest of the cast easier to play, I will gladly make that trade anyday. Tf you talking about??

@EduardoIsSmiling Год назад

I'm getting kinda addicted to this channel, lol. I wish i would sub to you or something, but disability money is short and i need to pay for the meds xD Thanks for the great content, Jiyuna!

@OSauceda15 Год назад

So this is the real guilty gear I've heard about?

@CHEYMIX Год назад

Every guilty gear is guilty

@just_2swift Год назад

@@CHEYMIX of being better than Strive.

@YouKnow381195 Год назад

@@just_2swift See me in Missing Link

@Ilasperr Год назад

@@YouKnow381195 see me in the drama cd

@IfWhatYes Год назад

No that's GG isuka

@mallow2902 Год назад

Can't wait to actually play this online with my bros. It's always been off the table for us because of the bad netcode. Always enjoyed playing it offline, but never put much time into learning it. I might actually try to learn some real combos now.

@iorilamia Год назад

Embrace the BCG brother

@ttt22tt33 Год назад

bruh this game is so fucking hard I'm staying in strive

@dextra_24703 Год назад

I hate how the throw input is and also you need to be standing still is just aggravating to get 6HS.

@ThePanchEffect Год назад

teach about the lobby and fishing systems, one, more, time.

@guitaralex0515 Год назад

I know you use to play ram. I have been playing her for a few months since I play her in strive. Would you he down to do a ram guide for rev2

@ANIMEILLUMINATI Год назад

Just play Leo!

@Underground3 Год назад

Here my 5 tips for strive players: 1. IM 2. NOT 3. GONNA 4. SUGARCOAT 5. IT *RAAAADDDDDIIIIIIIOOOOOOOO!*

@solodolo9450 Год назад

Strive was fun- my first ever fighting game like that. Tried rev2... got my cheeks stomped.

@ANIMEILLUMINATI Год назад

It takes time.

@solodolo9450 Год назад

Like all things huh. Your vid gave tons of insight. You have a way of explaining things; makes more sense than others saying "press these buttons and this happens". You explain why. But others are probably assuming Im not a scrub. Anyways- thank you, great vid as always!

@japser8147 Год назад

thank god daisuke doesn't think these are cool now

@ANIMEILLUMINATI Год назад

It was a different era

@ns2304 Год назад

Is there a migration to xrd from strive now? whats the hype about

@cyon1697 Год назад

Rollback

@ANIMEILLUMINATI Год назад

Rollback Beta started.

@rachetmarvel931 Год назад

Although it may be annoying to learn, but as Lord Knight once said, xrd characters having different weight class and wake timing make the characters feel unique and alive.

@KingAfrica4 Год назад

That just sounds like arbitrary differences that sounds dumb

@rachetmarvel931 Год назад

@@KingAfrica4 Remember this is Guilty Gear, giving characters different wake up timing,backdashes, weights within weigh class, dead angle attacks, stun level and guts, helps add to characterization. It makes the characters more unique.

@KingAfrica4 Год назад

@@rachetmarvel931 it just sounds like extra BS not unique mechanics. I’m all for grinding out the most minuscule detail and interaction in a game but most of what you explained just seems unnecessary

@rayoscrost6062 Год назад

@@KingAfrica4 "NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE A GAME WITH UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS!!!!"

@weirdo911aw Год назад

@@KingAfrica4 the differences make you have to plan out your strategy for every character. you can literally apply your logic to having different characters in a game. why not have 3 characters in one fighting game since theyre all just arbitrary differences.

@cristiancolon1526 Год назад

You can't tech throws right?

@ANIMEILLUMINATI Год назад

You can, but it's only like 2F? It's more like a Throw Clash rather than a tech.

@RunehearthCL Год назад

Xrd is a game

@ekwensu8797 Год назад

Smash has variable weight classes that affect combos, but it's always been called "casual". Curious.

@ToseRoyal Год назад

Smash on the surface seems easy to learn (my little brother loves playing Smash Ultimate with his friends and he's only 8) considering the two attack buttons, 4 specials per fighter, and almost no motion inputs. But there's all these advanced mechanics that aren't on the surface at all, and a huge number of factors that affect every interaction, it's actually very hard to master. Which is why little kids get addicted to Smash but pros have been playing Melee since 2002.

@ekwensu8797 Год назад

@@ToseRoyal I 100% agree, I love smash. I'm just making fun of people who think it's not a real fighting game with depth. It most definitely is.

@Eldred91 Год назад

I started out in smash and coming into Xrd with the different weight classes felt like I was right at home!

@ekwensu8797 Год назад

@@Eldred91 Awesome to hear! Was Xrd your first fighting game? The first one I tried to learn seriously was Street Fighter 5 and I'm super hyped for 6. How is Xrd for you?

@Eldred91 Год назад

@@ekwensu8797 Xrd was my first 2D fighter but not my first fighter overall (played Tekken 7 and SC6 before that). I love Xrd, it's one of my favorite games and it's been really fun to revisit it. Gonna be hard to go back to delay based after rollback beta is over though ngl.

@polar6066 Год назад

daphne looks odd

@Sorrelhas Год назад

Still don't know who I'll be playing Probably just gonna steal Max's gameplay like I do with every fighting game lmao

@ANIMEILLUMINATI Год назад

🤔

@tchbast1661 Год назад

I tried it today, took jam because she's cool, and...not having the dash button like in strive hits a lot. I play on keyboard and not a very good keyboard so it's so complicated. Because i main May in strive and i don't like her as much in rev2, i will stick with strive, but i really want to play Jam so i will try to play a bit of xrd

@ANIMEILLUMINATI Год назад

I hope every new game had a Dash Macro.

@SourMoonBlues Год назад

I'm trying to find someone to make a mod. It's really rough without it coming from Strive.

@drftr6073 Год назад

you can still use neutral socd of the game to perform dashes by holding forward and tapping back.

@lilslash Год назад

I’m sorry I’m not going to play rev 2 but watching these tips are cool

@blyat8832 Год назад

Aww, too hard for your strive brain? 🤣🤣🤣

@MILDMONSTER1234 Год назад

@@blyat8832 I’m gonna be playing es laf 2 😎

@lilslash Год назад

@@blyat8832 lmao 🤣 I just don’t got time to put in another fg

@chances3163 Год назад

@@blyat8832 dude no need to be a douche, judging people by how hard their videogame is sounds lame

@weirdo911aw Год назад

hey thats okay man. i dont play strive but also like watching it. we gotta CO EXIST

@sonicrevic4928 Год назад

Thanks Jiyuna. Now i have good excuses to skip the game if someone asks.

@justinellison1215 Год назад

Damn I'm early to the upload unlike that stoner Lord Jiyuner.

@Owen-zm6sq Год назад

*Describes a mechanic* "Yeah it's frustrating and annoying you just gotta get used to it" And y'all wonder why Strive changed so much lmao

@egebamyasi2929 Год назад

The weight classes and wake up timings are probably what will forever gatekeep me from Xrd. That's one thing I don't miss from older FGs. Just an arbitrary nuisance with no benefit.

@grafh2732 Год назад

Nah bro, im good, that's too much unnecessary bs, i shouldn't have to memorize a spreadsheet to do a god damn meaty and another for combos. I'll stick to Melty and Strive.

@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 Год назад

You don't have to memorize a spread sheet, just keep in the mind that some combos that work on Chipp won't work on Potemkin, since Pot is heavier.

@Don_Akane89 Год назад

@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 I'd add, what most people do is just remove as much mental stack you possibly could regarding it & simplify things via weight-class grouping. e.g. Using standard character weight (e.g. Ky) as a baseline, Just add or remove one light hit for your combos depending on whether the character in question is lighter or heavier than standard. Girls are usually lighter, and the only heavy ones are Pot, Kum & Johnny iirc. As for meaty, I just use the same few meaty combo on everyone really & don't vary depending on their wakeup timings. And if anyone wanna get sweaty, then thats when you learn the specifics. Even then, its not really necessary tbh. Grinded Xrd hard back in the day & just did these. Got by just fine despite never bothering with the frame specifics.

@rachetmarvel931 Год назад

Trust me bro, find a character that you like in xrd, and you will be enjoying the game to much before trying to learn it. The same with BBCF.

@ANIMEILLUMINATI Год назад

Melty is really good.

@weirdo911aw Год назад

nobody is expecting you to be good on day 1 😂 goddam zoomers