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50. A Guide to Saw Filing 

Graham Blackburn Woodworking
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Learn how to file (and sharpen) the teeth of Rip Saws & Crosscut Saws - Never use a blunt saw again!
Visit: www.blackburnbooks.com to order books, and to enquire about or sign up for individual and small group lessons in Woodstock NY.

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@Cmxx1v
@Cmxx1v 19 дней назад
I retired 2 years ago after 52 years as a carpenter and never learned to file my own saws. I wish I’d seen this 40 years ago. You’re a good teacher
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc 2 дня назад
You're very welcome!
@mrstandfast2212
@mrstandfast2212 Год назад
Something I found helpful when sharpening is to run a black Sharpie pen along the top of the teeth and then file. As you file, the ink is removed and the shiny teeth are very visible, allowing you to see where you're up to and if you've missed any teeth. Any residual ink is removed as soon as you start to use the saw.
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
Great tip!
@bentontool
@bentontool Год назад
A black Sharpie, or traditionally, chalk, which helps to keep the file from clogging.
@ianpearse4480
@ianpearse4480 Год назад
I like that one, Cheers.
@arvinmeyer6414
@arvinmeyer6414 4 месяца назад
One thing that is VERY important to remember is that you set the saw before filing it. This is especially important for rip saws so that they will saw straighter. You should do this even on a brand new saw. Do so will improve the cutting process exponentially.
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc 3 месяца назад
Hmm. I'll give it a try.
@ianpearse4480
@ianpearse4480 Год назад
Simples. LOL. Thanks for sharing.
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@pettere8429
@pettere8429 Год назад
Most metalworkers would point out that a file should not be pulled back while in contact with the work.
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
Yes indeed.
@vasiaa3656
@vasiaa3656 Год назад
Vielen Dank, sehr einfach erklärt und auch unterhaltsam. Bleiben Sie gesund Herr Blackburn
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
Danke, gleichfalls!
@chdnorm
@chdnorm Год назад
The saw filing guide that Lee Valley sells is worthwhile. It helps train the hand and eye to hold the file at the desired rake and fleam, until you learn you what feels right. I think it made leaning how to accurately sharpen a saw much easier' at least for me.
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
Thanks for the info!
@nickmastro9287
@nickmastro9287 Год назад
Great video! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations Год назад
Fantastic, Graham! Thanks a bunch!!! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
Thanks, you too!
@dpmeyer4867
@dpmeyer4867 Год назад
thanks
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
You're welcome!
@terencebarnett113
@terencebarnett113 Год назад
Thank you, I’ve been doing it wrong with xcut saw I’ve been filing both sides of each tooth thank you for putting me right.cheers terry
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
You are so welcome!
@ga5743
@ga5743 Год назад
You always make things look so easy Graham, I guess when you know, you know. Thank you once again for a great lesson. Enjoy your day.
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
You're welcome!
@adevwco7013
@adevwco7013 Год назад
Excellent, thank you
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
You are welcome!
@ArchEdge
@ArchEdge Год назад
Thank you Graham - Restoring a saw or generally sharpening/cleaning tools is somewhat theraputic when you have nothing to make :)
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
Great!
@liveoak4124
@liveoak4124 Год назад
Thank you
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
You're welcome
@dirdick43
@dirdick43 Год назад
Well done. I have a rip saw that needs sharpening (It belonged to my father) and I'll put these video tips to work. Thanks for the video. Now to the back yard to sharpen!
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
Good luck!
@curiousgeorge555
@curiousgeorge555 11 месяцев назад
A+
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc 11 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@markbaldwin975
@markbaldwin975 Год назад
Another great video. some other ideas for videos might be saw-setting and how to straighten a bent saw. thanks!
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
That's more of a metalworking problem - but possible.
@johnford7847
@johnford7847 Год назад
I suspect you omitted a lot of detail about choosing the angles - LOL! Thank you. Clear and concise.
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
Just trying to keep it simple.
@richardwilliamswilliams
@richardwilliamswilliams Год назад
Good morning from Copperhill Tn.
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
Same to you!
@andrewkent4913
@andrewkent4913 Год назад
I am filing a complaint against my saw. It has been somewhat blunt lately. It might try to bite back, but I am not worried as it has no teeth!
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
Time to get to work!
@plakor6133
@plakor6133 Год назад
Thank you. I have procrastinated learning this for years. Even though I file chain saw teeth almost non stop, no issues. For some reason, hand saws seem intimidating.
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@hubrigant
@hubrigant Год назад
The problem I had my first (and currently only) time trying to sharpen a saw was I kept forgetting which tooth I'd just sharpened. I ended up not alternating consistently. Fortunately, I was learning on a saw I didn't care about about, so nothing was lost, but it was quite frustrating.
@jsaurman
@jsaurman Год назад
Mark them all with a sharpie before you begin. The filing will remove the ink so you won't lose your place.
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
Good tip!
@jrkorman
@jrkorman Год назад
Don't believe you mentioned it. Should the "set" be removed before planing and sharpening?
@enchantedwooddesigns3462
@enchantedwooddesigns3462 Год назад
As far as I know you do not have to remove the set before sharpening. A plus to having the set is you can tell a little which way the the filing angle on a cross cut (at least to me since I have problems with seeing depth and angles). After filing retouch up the set.
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
Exactly!
@neutralglider
@neutralglider 10 месяцев назад
Great instructions. At 8:29 what do you mean by "after I've removed *half* the shiny spot of whatever I've achieved before"?
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc 10 месяцев назад
First file in one direction/side, then reverse the file and file the other half of what remains of the shiny spot.
@neutralglider
@neutralglider 10 месяцев назад
@@gjbmunc Thank you so much for responding to my ignorance. Btw, I've inherited a dovetail backsaw from my grandfather years ago, but unfortunately the teeth are all gone. Is it possible for you to make a video of how to file new teeth to a backsaw with ripcut teeth? Thanks again.
@christopherharrison6724
@christopherharrison6724 Год назад
Where can you buy files for saws from I can’t seem to find them online.Thanks Graham.
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
I just checked Amazon for triangular files and found several, but any decent hardware store (Ace, for example) should have a selection.
@donataspimpasas
@donataspimpasas Год назад
How many larger saws can you sharpen with one file?
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
I guess it depends on how much filing is needed.
@JoJoJenkns
@JoJoJenkns 9 месяцев назад
Where is a good source for the correct files? I’ve seen some on on leevalley, but the names and sizing is was dreadful last time I looked
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc 9 месяцев назад
Try Lie-Nielsen.
@edwardkopczyk4699
@edwardkopczyk4699 Год назад
Why would you not just do all the teeth consecutively rather than missing a tooth? Is there a reason for this?
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
It helps preserve the set.
@edwardkopczyk4699
@edwardkopczyk4699 Год назад
@@gjbmunc simple when you think about it
@TermiteUSA
@TermiteUSA Год назад
May I ask why you say to file every other tooth 9f a rip saw and then turn the saw around. I understand that is necessary for s crosscut but a rip does not have that set. No disrespect intended to you, but Paul Sellers clearly does consecutive teeth for his rip saw demonstrations. I do enjoy seeing your tool inventory. Thanks.
@ChiefTiff
@ChiefTiff Год назад
Opinions vary… personally I file alternate teeth with the file cutting into the leading edge of the tooth that is pointing towards me; my belief is that the resulting burr is then down the centre line of the saw not at the outer edges and the saw cuts cleaner. Your mileage my vary.
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
Yes I know how Paul files, but I have always found that filing alternate teeth in the direction of the set helps keeps things even. Each to his own and whatever works best. Thanks for your comment.
@jsaurman
@jsaurman Год назад
What about using a saw set? You completely forgot about that.
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
Covered that in a previous episode.
@sethwarner2540
@sethwarner2540 Год назад
I can tell you've never filed a saw, sir. you mean well, Im sure. A rip saw has all the teeth filed straight across, level and 90 degrees, and all the teeth are filed in succession; not every other tooth, as you said. Its the cross cut saw gets every other tooth, but at an angle to the line of the saw.
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
Yes you can do it that way but I find filing every other tooth in the direction it's set is also efficient especially in keeping the height equal. But whatever works for you. Thanks for your comment.
@MikeAG333
@MikeAG333 Год назад
Hmmmm...I can't see what is achieved by filing alternate teeth on a rip saw. Filing in one gullet cuts the front of the next tooth and the back of the previous one, and the angle is identical. Swapping and filing alternate teeth from the other side doesn't produce any difference other than which side any burrs occur.
@michaeldoto4673
@michaeldoto4673 Год назад
Totally agree. I think he got ahead of himself and was thinking of cross cut filing where you do skip every other tooth. When rip saw sharping, you can file every tooth from the same side.
@ChiefTiff
@ChiefTiff Год назад
Opinions vary… personally I file alternate teeth with the file cutting into the leading edge of the tooth that is pointing towards me; my belief is that the resulting burr is then down the centre line of the saw not at the outer edges and the saw cuts cleaner. Your mileage my vary.
@gjbmunc
@gjbmunc Год назад
Yep, see my previous reply. Thanks however, for the comment.
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