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Chapters:
00:00 - Does it stack?
00:25 - Bel'Veth E
01:05 - Jinx Q
01:16 - Twitch R
01:34 - Hurricane
01:45 - Yasuo Q
02:06 - Yone Q
02:12 - Towers
02:31 - Briar W
02:39 - Urgot W
02:46 - Zeri Q
03:01 - Zeri Q + E
03:08 - Zeri W
03:13 - Graves Passive
03:18 - Aphelios Severum
03:26 - Aphelios Infernum
03:32 - Aphelios off-hand
03:42 - Aphelios Tower
03:48 - Sivir W
03:54 - Empowered Pantheon W
04:01 - Bel'Veth Q
04:07 - Ashe Passive
04:13 - Ashe W
04:20 - Gangplank Q
04:25 - Gangplank E
04:31 - Fiora E
04:38 - Nilah Q
04:44 - Miss Fortune Q
04:49 - Miss Fortune Ult
04:58 - Shaco Passive + Q
05:08 - Rengar Q
05:18 - Talon Q
05:23 - Garen Q
05:28 - Garen E
05:33 - Samira Q
05:39 - Samira Ult
05:44 - Master Yi Passive
05:50 - Master Yi Q
05:56 - Vi E
06:01 - Kayle Passive
06:07 - Jayce W
06:16 - Shyvana Q
06:22 - Viego Q
06:28 - Lucian Passive
06:35 - Akshan Passive
06:40 - Jhin Ult
06:53 - Sundered Sky
07:11 - Rageblade
07:30 - Shadowflame
07:37 - Fake Crits
07:43 - Additional Bug
08:06 - Yun Tal vs. IE
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@HextechLab
@HextechLab 21 день назад
Timestamps: 00:00 - Does it stack? 00:25 - Bel'Veth E 01:05 - Jinx Q 01:16 - Twitch R 01:34 - Hurricane 01:45 - Yasuo Q 02:06 - Yone Q 02:12 - Towers 02:31 - Briar W 02:39 - Urgot W 02:46 - Zeri Q 03:01 - Zeri Q + E 03:08 - Zeri W 03:13 - Graves Passive 03:18 - Aphelios Severum 03:26 - Aphelios Infernum 03:32 - Aphelios off-hand 03:42 - Aphelios Tower 03:48 - Sivir W 03:54 - Empowered Pantheon W 04:01 - Bel'Veth Q 04:07 - Ashe Passive 04:13 - Ashe W 04:20 - Gangplank Q 04:25 - Gangplank E 04:31 - Fiora E 04:38 - Nilah Q 04:44 - Miss Fortune Q 04:49 - Miss Fortune Ult 04:58 - Shaco Passive + Q 05:08 - Rengar Q 05:18 - Talon Q 05:23 - Garen Q 05:28 - Garen E 05:33 - Samira Q 05:39 - Samira Ult 05:44 - Master Yi Passive 05:50 - Master Yi Q 05:56 - Vi E 06:01 - Kayle Passive 06:07 - Jayce W 06:16 - Shyvana Q 06:22 - Viego Q 06:28 - Lucian Passive 06:35 - Akshan Passive 06:40 - Jhin Ult 06:53 - Sundered Sky 07:11 - Rageblade 07:30 - Shadowflame 07:37 - Fake Crits 07:43 - Additional Bug 08:06 - Yun Tal vs. IE
@SkinShowcase-zm3rs
@SkinShowcase-zm3rs 21 день назад
Great video! Always helpful.
@reaprsoza4656
@reaprsoza4656 21 день назад
does chakram passive stack it?
@yun754
@yun754 21 день назад
where us kata ?
@houki6776
@houki6776 21 день назад
How about yasuo E+Q
@SkinShowcase-zm3rs
@SkinShowcase-zm3rs 21 день назад
@@houki6776 I will check
@NCognito
@NCognito 21 день назад
The only requirements for Yun Tal to apply are that the damage critically strikes and the damage applies On-hit effects. Every ability interaction shown is functioning how it should, except for two: Shaco Q and Akshan Passive. They critically strike, and they apply on-hits, so what's the deal? After doing a little testing, I found out something: THEY ARE FAKE CRITS. They are completely ignored by the "Critical Resilience" passive on Randuin's Omen. Although the descriptions say "the attack critically strikes" like every other ability that crits, the damage is only reduced by the "Rock Solid" passive. That's why Shaco Q only applies the burn if he has actual crit chance, cause the original Attack crits, not the Q. So, if you've been building Randuin's Omen into a Crit Akshan, you are actually getting trolled by riot and taking about 12.24% more damage than you should be taking! If you've been playing Crit Shaco, you actually do more damage if you backstab someone with Q and DON'T crit. At 173ad, a Q backstab does 322 damage, "increased" to 255 if you crit naturally! How awesome, I love Riot Games :)
@Bigkingnecromancer
@Bigkingnecromancer 21 день назад
Thanks for the research fellow faceless one Can Shaco Q double crit? As in natural backstab plus a crit from critchance?
@Briezar
@Briezar 21 день назад
​@@Bigkingnecromancer if 2 crit effects overlap, the higher damage is applied.
@clovened4351
@clovened4351 21 день назад
holy fuck
@Briezar
@Briezar 21 день назад
ackshually the technical term is "cosmetic crit" ☝️🤓
@ceyx1201
@ceyx1201 20 дней назад
I mean with this analysis, you should make your own vid.
@pedromilesprouwer1283
@pedromilesprouwer1283 21 день назад
Belveth 💀
@Yenandorr
@Yenandorr 21 день назад
with guinsoo 💀💀💀
@LeLouisLafontaine
@LeLouisLafontaine 20 дней назад
@@Yenandorr omg yeah, guinsoo 💀💀💀
@HextechLab
@HextechLab 20 дней назад
@@Yenandorr imagine Riot wouldn't have backed out of the melee Runaan's changes...
@dariusfilip4695
@dariusfilip4695 20 дней назад
belveth eating good this patch
@user-xh1on8qt3g
@user-xh1on8qt3g 20 дней назад
Useless item on bel, no hp and bel doesnt build crit
@Camiddle
@Camiddle 21 день назад
As far as I can tell, it just seems like it checks to see if both a crit has occurred and an on hit is applied in the same instance, and you *should* be able to just make a list of abilities that can do both? Like, it makes sense that Urgot W wouldn't apply, because while it applies on hits, it can never crit. On the flip side, it explains why Twitch R bullets and Hurricane projectiles both apply the burn, given that both sources can crit and apply on hits. Jinx rockets/Zeri Q only apply on hits to the primary target, so even though they can crit multiple, only the target that can be hit by both in the same instance would take the burn. A few of the comments seem to think it's just rolling the dice for each champion, but I think if you know how said champions work, you should be able to accurately guess which champions/items/abilities it works on pretty easily. The only ones I'm surprised about is Shaco Q not proccing unless it was a rolled crit rather than forced and Akshan 2nd auto, but I suspect that's just classic spaghetti code. Thanks for reading, and while I can't promise it's the case, I think it's close enough to the truth that it's worth mentioning! (also I love the content, as always, and thanks for showing!
@saul2416
@saul2416 21 день назад
We should also test if each of ashe's q bullet count or if it is like zeri and only the first bullet is checked for the crit (ashes q bullets roll for crit individually, so im talking about not having the 100% crit)
@Camiddle
@Camiddle 21 день назад
@@saul2416 I think it's almost definitely just one proc per auto, given that she only applies one instance of on hit per auto regardless of her flurry count.
@NCognito
@NCognito 21 день назад
dropped a longer reply in the comments somewhere, but basically Akshan and Shaco both have fake crits, even though the ability descriptions word it as if they are "real" crits, and every other ability worded that way function correctly
@HextechLab
@HextechLab 20 дней назад
Yes on-hit effects + crit is the requirement (and Akshan and Shaco are not real crits which is very surprising as NCognito pointed out). Still, I think the most important result for gameplay from this video is that modifiers like Bel'Veth E and Aphelios Severum which normally balance the insane amount of attacks are not applied to the burn. This makes it very strong on these champions (and useless on everybody else). After testing 5 or 10 champions I probably could have just stopped and concluded that on-hit effects + crit is the requirement. After testing a few champions with modifiers I could have also concluded that all modifiers are not applied. But at that point I just wanted to show all interactions, especially the strong ones. Which is good, since otherwise I wouldn't have found Akshan who I tested almost last. Sadly, I was so sure that Akshan is a real crit that I just thought that there are some real crits who don't apply and that it is just kind of random, so I did not put on-hit effects and crit as a requirement in a final conclusion into the video.
@nickschaus7785
@nickschaus7785 20 дней назад
Along your same lines of "If you know how they work", Shaco Q is a visual crit but not an actual critical strike. The most common example, mage spells with shadowflame ,'look' like crits, but really they are just damage modifiers and are not true critical strikes unless the attack itself was a crit. The only shockers in this video are the damage is not reduced by onhit reduction modifiers like belveth passive/e (This will likely be added before release or else this item will only be viable on like 3 champs and terrible for everyone else or viable for others and those champs will be permabanned) and that akshan passive does not work. Last one is just weird because it applies on-hit/on-attack effects and can critically strike, so there should really be no reason something like that wouldn't apply the effect twice.
@VocalMabiMaple
@VocalMabiMaple 21 день назад
This item is just a knowledge check item lmao
@DillonMeyer
@DillonMeyer 21 день назад
For Ashe, with JUST the arrows, your hits on targets slowed by her passive will always apply it, as her passive simply makes every hit a crit with severely reduced crit damage. It's worded to say it doesn't crit, but coded to always crit, even with 0% crit. The damage scales with both crit damage and chance. One thing you didn't touch on is if her autos after activating q apply it multiple times as it is multiple hits.
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen 21 день назад
Only Ashe's first arrow of a Q autoattack applies on-hit so it only applies once per auto.
@DillonMeyer
@DillonMeyer 20 дней назад
@@Stachelbeeerchen Makes sense.
@sentro5382
@sentro5382 20 дней назад
are you sure? im not sure that's the case. I thought ashe DID have crit chance, her crits just multiply the slow instead of dealing bonus damage (given her bonus damage is applied to already frosted targets as she builds crit chance). Remember that just because there's a crit icon doesnt mean an attack or ability crits, riot often use it to add satisfaction and clarity to bonus damage amplification.
@afterlyte
@afterlyte 20 дней назад
That's not how her passive works. Her attacks apply Frost which slows and causes subsequent hits to do bonus damage scaling with crit chance/crit damage multiplier. She still has standard crit chance, but instead of doing bonus damage it increases the slow from the Frost. It will still only apply the item burn on attacks that actually crit and apply that stronger slow, the only exception being her W which is a "cosmetic" crit that simply is there to show that her W always applies that stronger slow, but isn't actually a critical attack
@Flechashe
@Flechashe 20 дней назад
No, Ashe critically strikes like any champion in the game, she simply deals no bonus damage when she crits and instead applies a stronger slow. To compensate the damage she deals bonus damage to Frosted enemies, which is further increased by crit chance and crit damage, but that doesn't mean it's a critical strike.
@soniclechat2825
@soniclechat2825 20 дней назад
so it's an on-hit effect that olny porc if the attack is a crit also for shadow flame, use it with a spell that applies on hit like WW Q
@sadjhin103
@sadjhin103 21 день назад
Don't forget, we're back to our original Crit Damage bonus of 225% with Infinity Edge. Yasuo and Yone, Rengar and Tryn are going to see a significant uptick in play with those items to deal with slippery enemies. Rengar and Graves are going to be utilizing this item since their crits are stronger with their usual building lethality.
@6athory858
@6athory858 21 день назад
we are not going to be using this on rengar man
@torahama362
@torahama362 21 день назад
Graves too won't be utilizing this well imo. Cause the dot stacks, the best users are the one who attack fast, even better if they use hurricane.
@SwoggersLOL
@SwoggersLOL 21 день назад
no. yas wr tanked after tempo nerfs. and ie had 225 since patch 14.6, which still didnt improve his wr. yone is still yone, so people will always win with him. I expect windshitter brother's winrate to tank since Tempo wont exist and they'll be forced to use inferior conq
@freshlymemed5680
@freshlymemed5680 21 день назад
@@SwoggersLOL Winrate is gonna tank for the people who relied on it and even then all it did was give them early game advantage. Now they have slower early game but once they get tier 2 boots its back to the same bs but this time they do even more damage.
@andyvirus2300
@andyvirus2300 20 дней назад
@@freshlymemed5680even with that early game rune they were shit, so considering it is being removed, well lot of games are going to be finished before they are able to do anything
@travisatessier
@travisatessier 19 дней назад
It's always so interesting to see what does and doesn't qualify for meeting certain conditions in this game.
@frequenista
@frequenista 21 день назад
2 minutes ago lesgooo!!! The Bel interaction is crazy tho, I wonder if it will become meta for her
@InnerTriggerer
@InnerTriggerer 18 дней назад
How about Shadowflame WITH Katarina R and passive? seem like criteria is Apply on hit AND can Crit. Since the spells are already apply on hit adding "can crit" item might make it work ?
@patty4449
@patty4449 21 день назад
7:58 Yea check out your timer in the top right corner, it counts 2-09, 2-10, 2-10, 2-11 That bug is related to the old bug of false time... The clock in the top right is the ingame time which on the regular counts a second double, during this second tons of bugs happen.... This bug has existed since season one and is yet to be fixed... Ever...
@balrg
@balrg 21 день назад
Whatt?!
@drinkingguy3168
@drinkingguy3168 21 день назад
Can't seem to google it, can you give us the name of the bug?
@VegetaPixel
@VegetaPixel 20 дней назад
No? Maybe this bug exists but this sure isn't an example of it. It switches from 2:09 to 2:10 at 7:55 and 2:10 to 2:11 at 7:56.
@haannguyen8749
@haannguyen8749 18 дней назад
GP autos apply both his passive and the item passive which burn you true damage and crit damage, combine with first strike.
@pamdabeep
@pamdabeep 21 день назад
Sooooo it's just old draven passive in item form, but better. Right.
@Rigele100
@Rigele100 21 день назад
yes, at the moment i have seen this item the very first time, im instant remember the old draven passiv
@crydegolem4135
@crydegolem4135 8 дней назад
Yun tal procs on “Basic Damage” types, usually in the form of an auto, can apply on hit effects (the 1st condition usually guarantees they already do) and it must be able to crit/ have a crit modifier. If something doesn’t apply the burn that you thought would, then that something might be a different damage type that doesn’t work, doesn’t apply on hits or isn’t capable of crits. Sourced from the LoL fandom wiki. Edit: forgot to mention that a cosmetic crit doesn’t count (it is used for clarity on damage increase due to conditions within the ability itself), similar to Karthus’ Q on single targets and which should include shaco Q.
@amethonys2798
@amethonys2798 21 день назад
"Stacking" is a bit of a misconception and I think people are getting the wrong idea down here. It is moreso not overriding previous applications so you aren't punished for applying multiple instances. Each "stack" is treated individually and independent of others.
@kassaken6521
@kassaken6521 2 дня назад
Yuntal Twitch with runnans is actually crazy. Its the new static shiv burst
@Zwodo
@Zwodo 21 день назад
I'm surprised we didn't get to see Aphelios' Chakrams. Or the interaction with healing reduction, which is only minor, but still. Thanks for your efforts, this was super interesting! I thought from the get-go that this item would need a hotfix buff because it's garbage, but it looks like it might have some unique use-cases. Although Bel'Veth looked a bit too insane ☠
@scamkick
@scamkick 21 день назад
Aphelios’ chakrams only apply burn once, consider it the same interaction as Zeri’s AA
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen 20 дней назад
I think Aphelios's Chakrams apply on-hit once just like the jinx rocket and sivir W did.
@dfrostbite4327
@dfrostbite4327 20 дней назад
I wonder if the new zephyr counts towards kalista's passive jump distance
@TukangReport
@TukangReport 11 дней назад
Of all the items, even in the recent update, the damage from everything is still sick and seems to require some balancing on several items and the abilities of the champions.
@edaxnex1560
@edaxnex1560 20 дней назад
Shyv empowered q applies on hit to multiple enemies. I suggest trying that out. Since if it works,you could apply this to the entire enemy team
@spicytunah8043
@spicytunah8043 18 дней назад
Her Dragon form Q can only crit once, it can’t crit both times. You’re better off going with something else. The current Liandry’s build on her works just fine for this purpose.
@donange-louisorsini8062
@donange-louisorsini8062 4 дня назад
does it prock with the crit the yorick's ghoul do when you hit someone with his E ?
@renneverbright
@renneverbright 19 дней назад
can Senna's Q apply the burn? I'm fairly certain it just can't crit, though the wiki says that the code just applies a basic attack to all champions hit by it, but just wanted to check
@Frightning
@Frightning 8 дней назад
hmm, Akshan double autos *not* applying Yun Tal's passive seems like a bug/oversight given that it applies other on-hits twice (or is this item treated as *on attack*?)
@Lilybun
@Lilybun 21 день назад
on-attack with crit conditional. think "can this apply runaans and crit" and it's pretty easy to understand at least for ranged.
@RavenDumpster
@RavenDumpster 21 день назад
cant wait to have this and IE on lethality senna :)
@somaundead964
@somaundead964 16 дней назад
a good question would be does gangplank's barrels apply them alone?
@my4stringsandme
@my4stringsandme 21 день назад
I was kinda hoping it would proc on shadowflame. That would lead to some entertaining builds.
@hoangao5487
@hoangao5487 2 часа назад
was hoping so much for sivir W to work, damn it
@Sol-gl3nl
@Sol-gl3nl 15 дней назад
yasuo and yone q only apply on hit effects to first target affected, so its normal.
@gerjose3944
@gerjose3944 19 дней назад
So it’s just a twitch 4th item? (also maybe jinx) bc viego and velveth aren’t building crit
@Flechashe
@Flechashe 20 дней назад
The burn is not affected by Bel'Veth's E modifier but it IS affected by her innate 75% damage modifier on basic attacks
@RexRagerunner
@RexRagerunner 21 день назад
Yooo, they made Draven's old passive an item!
@crydegolem4135
@crydegolem4135 8 дней назад
May be worth noting Ashe’s interaction with Yun Tal is still constrained by if she would hit a crit without her passive, she still won’t proc it consistently without 100% crit.
@viket8316
@viket8316 21 день назад
you forget about smolder since he transform crits into damage
@xaviergoulet-samoisette6023
@xaviergoulet-samoisette6023 18 дней назад
Yeah but it's fairly clear: Smolder's Q does not crit, its damage is *increased by crit chance. So it presumably doesn't work
@va3lan992
@va3lan992 12 дней назад
ty for doing that but u forget katarina r and her dagger passive (sundered sky + this item),and akali e (sundered sky + this item),with that skills both of them can proc sundered sky both of them can crit that way ,and the item can proc the yun tal passive
@sadjhin103
@sadjhin103 21 день назад
Damn, didn't think IU'd see the day that my beloved item,Y̶u̶n̶ T̶a̶l̶ W̶i̶l̶d̶a̶r̶r̶o̶w̶s̶ Lightbringer would be back.
@Pigraider268
@Pigraider268 19 дней назад
Wait what?
@sadjhin103
@sadjhin103 19 дней назад
@@Pigraider268 Look it up. This new item is based off that old one.
@georgyhoodini325
@georgyhoodini325 19 дней назад
What about yasuo E Q combo? does it apply on every target hit or just one?
@bahamutzero4903
@bahamutzero4903 18 дней назад
Just what I want in my crit build; 50 burn damage. Wow.
@ebobab9564
@ebobab9564 20 дней назад
it's crazy it doesn't proc on shadowflame consdiering that in Arena you can proc hamstring/divine sunderer with abilities that crit via jeweled gauntlet
@KhangTran-df1qx
@KhangTran-df1qx 20 дней назад
I wanna ask, can you build IE with navori now since navori lose the damage amp
@KodamaVictor
@KodamaVictor 17 дней назад
You forgot about Katarina’s passive and Ult, which I think are gonna be one of the most busted ones 😮
@gabubfmvforever
@gabubfmvforever 20 дней назад
So a full crit Twitch with this item + Liandry must be fun
@tazotazo8969
@tazotazo8969 8 дней назад
wished to see if shyvannas ult q applies yun tai to every thing it hits
@jae7798
@jae7798 21 день назад
Does ashe's passive work on this? If her target is affected by frost shot, she deals crit damage on her AAs. She can basically proc this everytime building this first.
@saul2416
@saul2416 21 день назад
You can actually tell when ashe crits. The slow is bigger when the attack crits(the font tells that too). The damage modifier is a completely different thing. What we should test is if her q works (each individual bullet) since they are considered separately by crit chance and you can pretty much garantee the bigger slow with 25 crit on every auto
@PinHeadSupliciumwtf
@PinHeadSupliciumwtf 21 день назад
Thought the same
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen 20 дней назад
These are "fake" crits. Ashe can actually critically strike but it only affects her slow so you can critically slow. I think this item will work when you critically slow someone. Otherwise it would be busted.
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen 20 дней назад
​@@saul2416Ashe's tooltip of her Q specifically says that only the first arrow of her Q volley applies on-hit. So only the first tick of one auto will apply the burn.
@kraftyevan
@kraftyevan 12 дней назад
I think this will be way stronger on rengar than people think. He can go Hubris into Yun Tal + Passive AD. His AD is so extremely high it will give really strong burn
@Cat-kv7jo
@Cat-kv7jo 15 дней назад
We were blessed by gods with that garen e not applying stacks
@lilliacaridadgardner6903
@lilliacaridadgardner6903 21 день назад
Basically, it's Liandry's torment in ad
@renzjocefnavarro5001
@renzjocefnavarro5001 20 дней назад
yeah how about ashe with runans hurricane q active ? I'm talking about the unique interaction where ashe can attack multiple targets with runaans hurricane with q activated
@jannikwesthues1972
@jannikwesthues1972 20 дней назад
love you Videos. but try to get the text langer in the Video so i can read without having to pause the Video. other than that great job once again
@lordmonocr6206
@lordmonocr6206 21 день назад
Urgot w can’t e it anyways so that makes sense why it wouldn’t work
@jinxclaessen1544
@jinxclaessen1544 20 дней назад
wow the item works as inteded amazing
@navi5324
@navi5324 18 дней назад
Will it work on Teemo E with shadowflame?
@RK99KR
@RK99KR 20 дней назад
This new item with collector seems strong.
@hunteradams3269
@hunteradams3269 21 день назад
Is this like old draven passive where on crit and q hits they would bleed?
@KontrolYT
@KontrolYT 20 дней назад
The best use I can see of it over IE is on fast attacking champs fighting tanks with thornmail and randuins, you would rely less on high damage crits that would get blocked and reflected more by thornmail and instead you could stack more damage with a burn. I could be wrong though, would have to test.
@HextechLab
@HextechLab 20 дней назад
Thornmail does not reflect damage based on damage dealt anymore since quite some time.
@santi3256
@santi3256 20 дней назад
Yun tal do AD damage so still the same. This item is just trash, i see only a good use on twitch and belveth (but belveth not gonna build it because crit belveth is just troll.
@KontrolYT
@KontrolYT 20 дней назад
@@HextechLab I meant that it could maybe require less autos to do more damage as you could get damage off with burn instead of just auto attacks, but I'm not sure if it would actually reduce the amount of autos required because you lose the extra crit damage.
@KontrolYT
@KontrolYT 20 дней назад
@@santi3256 Yes but the damage from the item doesn't crit, which is why I thought it would be better than IE against randuins because randuins reduces crit damage.
@santi3256
@santi3256 20 дней назад
@@KontrolYT Well that makes sense. But still not worth the damage difference wouldnt be too much and it would only work against the champ that have randuim.
@KIN65UPER
@KIN65UPER 21 день назад
I'm glad they removed the item from ARAM and brought it here. The old look of the item is present in the arena mode, but its features are different.
@accountname902
@accountname902 20 дней назад
I would have liked to see if a forced crit from Shadowflame would work on abilities that apply on-hits, such as Evelynn's E, since the rule seems to be "It must both crit and apply on-hits"
@firelynx1266
@firelynx1266 13 дней назад
no, it states critical attacks, so only autos. unless weird bug/interaction.
@accountname902
@accountname902 13 дней назад
@@firelynx1266 right, but other abilities like belveth's e can apply it
@firelynx1266
@firelynx1266 12 дней назад
@@accountname902 Belveth's E is a basic attack modifier, so she still auto attacks during E. Shadowflame is weird tho, since it does interact with IE but only on the extra dmg.
@anthonyosei-kufuor2784
@anthonyosei-kufuor2784 21 день назад
People need to understand that while it has some really strong interactions, you should realize that with these interactions it might see some play and even then it gets outshined by a good number of other crit items (Especially IE). However if it doesn't stack, the item won't see play AT ALL, since the entire appeal of it was that it stacks a lot and does a good bit of DoT as well. People screaming to get this changed should realize the implications of it. The item ceases to see any real use if it gets changed.
@curydude
@curydude 20 дней назад
they should rebalance it so it doesnt rely on niche interactions to be viable and instead doesnt stack but the burn is stronger and/or doesnt need crit and on-hit to be applied
@dooddoingstuff
@dooddoingstuff 19 дней назад
​@@curydude maybe it could just be an on hit, that gets increased damage when you crit? Sounds better for consistency
@CorpseGodX
@CorpseGodX 19 дней назад
Nah it would be garbage if that were the case its not ment for everyone just like how some adcs go crit and others on hit it just comes down to your champions skill set
@anthonyosei-kufuor2784
@anthonyosei-kufuor2784 18 дней назад
Issue is this item is made for people who do multiple crits at a time realistically, hence Belveth and Ashe being decent candidates. Other crit champs kill you with the crit they have pretty quickly. So quickly that it really isnt worth getting the itme anyways and youd rather just get IE to one shot better.
@firelynx1266
@firelynx1266 13 дней назад
i mean looking at the item, it seems its riots way of adding back the missing crit dmg to adc without making them too burst heavy. Placates persons that complained about adc's losing 200% crits.
@ayas5050
@ayas5050 20 дней назад
what about aphelios's stacked chakram autos? or his ult?
@ancientflean7594
@ancientflean7594 21 день назад
i thought it was a new cham, i didn't recognize the camp on thumbnail
@Tiksny161
@Tiksny161 2 дня назад
if you put shadowflame on kata and use her passive, shouldnt it work? It crits and does on hit damage. Same for R
@TvoyKami
@TvoyKami 7 дней назад
Лайк за проделанную работу)
@TheWasylator
@TheWasylator 21 день назад
Wasn't Draven's original passive a bleed on crit and they changed it cause of how strong it was :thinkingemoji:
@Scotch20
@Scotch20 20 дней назад
Does wukong w apply the burn, and it is reduced?
@giatoannguyen8172
@giatoannguyen8172 20 дней назад
I was wondering if Rammus is gonna benefits from this update
@-furiel2808
@-furiel2808 20 дней назад
Basically counted like on-hit effect
@NikolaNiKucu
@NikolaNiKucu 20 дней назад
But, did you try Galio's passive smash with it? That one can crit!
@dizzyheads
@dizzyheads 7 дней назад
Only the main target
@natsudragneel977
@natsudragneel977 6 дней назад
I was so excited to use this on samira…. :(
@foxstrut432
@foxstrut432 4 дня назад
I think the bug you mentioned is due to the nature of the game's tick rate
@klydemeneses5559
@klydemeneses5559 19 дней назад
Aphelios' R also applies bleed
@jessblues848
@jessblues848 21 день назад
damn. that end note made me real sad as i hoped it would be good on jhin!
@earthsauce696
@earthsauce696 19 дней назад
samira abilities like q and ult should apply it because they can crit
@cornwell4156
@cornwell4156 18 дней назад
let's see if the item is good enough to take 4th slot over other crit items now that they removed lethal tempo and crit champs has to buy attack speed items
@dorians2138
@dorians2138 19 дней назад
Riot need to watch this video and bugfix things accordingly. For example Bel'Veth's W needs a modifier, Akshan's passive should 100% work with this and other things
@Numan_Ozakcil..
@Numan_Ozakcil.. 11 дней назад
There are no fake crits from skills.Those are actually max damage from skills like Aatrox Q or Karthus Q etc and they may seem like crit but they're not.
@AlienSliker
@AlienSliker 19 дней назад
So it works just like onhit. But does it mean that belveth E can oneshot just with bork?
@froztygaming4857
@froztygaming4857 День назад
Surprised no test with kats ult tbh
@KrnKiiD
@KrnKiiD 15 дней назад
What about with Gangplank passive or barrels?
@OtoriDaisuke
@OtoriDaisuke 18 дней назад
So bel with yun tal+rageblade will be stupidly broken?
@XxHumnanxX1
@XxHumnanxX1 21 день назад
what about akshan any it seems to work on him but doesnt stack on e
@skelet8337
@skelet8337 20 дней назад
Yun tal+titanic hydra bel veth seems scary
@metarmored
@metarmored 19 дней назад
People don't even remember that this item existed in twisted treeline :c
@jdwild0696
@jdwild0696 15 дней назад
Im gonna assume senna q would proc it but only on clicked target…?
@roohni2226
@roohni2226 21 день назад
So.. we added draven’s old passive to all adcs now? The passive that was so broken it was very quickly changed. Sure it procced on his Q but the power creep on this is insane.
@ix_risor
@ix_risor 21 день назад
I mean… you have to buy it, and it gives less damage than infinity edge. On most champions, this is worse than IE, so you’re only buying it if you plan to stack them
@fozzyalfonso
@fozzyalfonso 20 дней назад
@@ix_risor but it applies burn to every crit attack..... imagine jinx and her passive. heck this item is basically dravens original passive. and that was instantly changed cause of how broken it was
@ix_risor
@ix_risor 20 дней назад
@@fozzyalfonso imagine that same jinx with infinity edge instead, and she would be doing more damage. Something that was broken as a champion passive is probably fine as a passive on a 3000 gold item
@rodrigoacha
@rodrigoacha 20 дней назад
it would work with Udyr's empowered Q?
@MangaGamify
@MangaGamify 20 дней назад
esport matches are the only thing that has fixing *💸*
@SpielMitMirSession
@SpielMitMirSession 17 дней назад
I was curious about Xayah feather hits...
@haymon05
@haymon05 14 дней назад
Azir with shadowflame stack yun tal passive ?
@dresean3725
@dresean3725 19 дней назад
What if it isn't guaranteed with Rengar Q and you just got REALLY lucky?
@user-vn8wl7ch7c
@user-vn8wl7ch7c 19 дней назад
does it work on aatrox q crits?
@zenonyadon1918
@zenonyadon1918 6 дней назад
Does it work on akshan swing?
@Ris4RogueYGO
@Ris4RogueYGO 19 дней назад
Would this work with rek sai E?
@QverSoul
@QverSoul 6 дней назад
Does Xin W apply?
@slloyd9892
@slloyd9892 20 дней назад
Hmm wonder if Yorick's ghouls apply it? Or is it ranged on hit only?
@wielbladtibijski
@wielbladtibijski 10 дней назад
ITS CRIT YOU DONKEY
@jadenp2996
@jadenp2996 20 дней назад
You forgot about dragon form shyvana q on multiple targets
@mzn8008
@mzn8008 20 дней назад
So warwick R will be broken?
@hoangdoanh2100
@hoangdoanh2100 21 день назад
I think as long as its crit and apply on-hit effect then it should procs YunTal
@Stachelbeeerchen
@Stachelbeeerchen 20 дней назад
That's in deed how it works. Yet Shaco and Akshan should proc it but don't for no reason other than spaghetti.
@SirCrusher
@SirCrusher 21 день назад
Does this item lock you out of infinity edge?
@TheDarkKing98XD
@TheDarkKing98XD 20 дней назад
does it work on yorick e?
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