Ernie is real champ in the show. He really knows how to manage all these people into one enjoyable group. You see that he is not neglecting anyone of the panels and draw everyone to join in the conversation.
Ernie is the Boss! He should have another show called... “Ernie J’s Couch” If I may quote the starter, the very 1st guest of the Couch. The Bad Boy Isaiah Thomas... “Maaaaaaaaaaaan C’mon!!!” C’mon Man! Ernie J’s Couch would be a killer! I’d watch it for sure! Would love to see Sir Charles’ Couch! Barkley, The round pound from downtown! OR Denis “The Worm” Rodman’s Couch...
Brent's clearly there for his mind. He was raised by a HOF which is the one thing these actual HOFs dont have. But props to brent. He used his dads iq and genes to carve out a 14 yr career and is currently vp of the spurs' worst season in 30 years
Zeke has a point tho, he was the best player on those Detroit championship teams and was the greatest pg behind only magic. fair enough If mj or bird or magic said no but to have Scottie or any of the others is disrespectful to how good he was
I can't get over the fact that these legends are talking about their legends. Listening to real basketball players talk about basketball is far superior to all those sports writers and broadcasters who have probably never even touched a basketball since grade school.
I agree. Just watching/listening to this is so interesting, it just feels authentic. No Stephen A Smith saying "I know this guy, I love him like a brother" over and over.
Sigh.... I've known him for a long time. He's a good dude. He's a close personal friend. And by that, I mean somebody who I have seen play on television, but have never actually met. LOL Nah, but for real, that's why I love "Open Court" as a series, because it gives a unique persepctive from the *PLAYERS*... Whether you agree with their views or not, they feel more authentic because they've actually lived and breathed the game, both on AND off the court. Also, the panelists consist of a good mix of both stars, leaders, AND role players, so the discussions feel more rounded.
Really wise soul right there. Cool listening to him talk about the ABA/NBA transition, especially with his dad having roots in the ABA. Really great episode yet again, awesome show!!
Rick Barry is really overlooked, even with his son there. If you look at his playstyle and stats... that man had a really amazing career. The only one ever leading NCAA, ABA and NBA in points per game in a season.
I enjoyed this group of men more than I can type into words. The laughter and banter was just beautiful. The RESPECT and lack of RACISM in sports is refreshing.
Shaq's 2000s team is flat out scary. AI and kobe are basically serial killers out on the court. Shaq and lebron are the two most physically gifted nba players in nba history. And timmy, big fundamentals.
He had me wondering why he thinks he belonged in the 90s conversation, Hakeem, Malone and Robinson all ran him out of the playoffs in the 90s. He doesn't belong on the 90s list. That guy ALWAYS makes it about himself.
sidney moncrief is the most underrated shooting guard of all time. the fact that his name wasn’t even brought up in a room full of legends... just goes to show how underrated he was.
I miss this show. It feels like as if you are sitting there hanging out with them. When I need to get away from everything going on in the world. I love watching these Open Court shows. Just listening and laughing with these retired NBA greats.
People forgot who nice Grant Hill was. You all see that crossover he put on Pippen??? 2 handed dunk, slaps the glass. MAN! I use to love their matchups
It is a travesty but kobe bryant for the most part was splitting votes with shaq when both of them were superstars in the same team and by the time shaq went to miami kobe was great but his team were hovering around the 6-8th seeds. Shaq actually had higher chances of winning it. But the best record in the league was a very big criteria and nash had a lot to do with that
Understandable. He’s the step child of that era. He battled the “darlings” MJ, Magic and Bird his whole career and doesn’t get his just due for beating them. He deserved to be on the Dream Team over Stockton but was kept out. That’s a lifetime memory he was denied. I’d be salty too lol
Eric Thomas Stockton was deserving but not over isiah. And someone like Pippen had to be on that team given Bird’s condition at the time. Magic and Mullin were already defensive liabilities and even as great as MJ was he couldn’t guard the whole perimeter by himself lol
Ace Harris Barkley was better. Better rebounder, better all around scorer. Barkley could score from all 3 levels. Never had a great PG like Stockton to feed him easy buckets. Malone just took better care of himself so he had more longevity
He was so great that nobody has taken what he did and surpassed him overall since. Of the modern players that most resemble him, they each only learned a fraction of his game; Curry's shooting range and handle, & Nash's passing and pace.
Thomas. Walter alcohol problem due to his mother’a passing. He had a sad life, but he was truly happy playing basketball. He retired as a Celtic, imagine if he and Bird played together in their primes? That’s multiple championships guaranteed.
Imagine being in the shoes of EJ, he acts like he's a legend (which he is) and a champion like these guys. EJ is the best thing that happened to Inside The NBA and those fellas that came along too. Yes even Kenny. Haha!
@@Peakfreud no one said he was. However I would kick Malone out the lineup, move Hakeem to the 4 and start Robinson. Dominant post, especially defensively
@@jasonpierce2024 Now were talking yeaaah, I like it - it should be best starting 5,after all. Shaq teams were getting swept in the 90s ,let's not forget
Other than Mike, Grant Hill was my favorite player in the 90s. My first basketball shoes were the Fila GH4 because of him. I so wish he never got derailed by injuries.
that last segment 38:30 to the end, is masterful TV that isn't scripted, surely the best sequence Open Court have had. Shaq and EJ's complicity and back and forth as shrink and patient, some insightful info about 2000's NBA...and the ending, so perfect: (shaq on the couch again) "I'm just maaad Erneh...." like a catchphrase on some show.
I honestly think John Havlicek is the most overlooked player of all time as time passes on. I know he was mentioned alot by these guys, but the common fans wouldn't even think of saying him. Sure he was the guy off the bench in the 60s and won with Bill. But in the 70s, he was THE guy. He is still Boston's all time leader in multiple categories including points. He would fill the stat sheet every game. Also, 8 and 0 in the Finals.
This was one of the best shows EVER! Shaq had me cracking up!!😂😂😂 He is such an awesome guy. I was his stand-in on his movie "STEEL", and some other projects over the years. Love hearing these legends talk about the game. Shaq has some deep seated issues. LMAO
How Shaq gonna tell Dennis "Be careful how you answer that number 5 spot" Trying to pressure him just because they played together but then Shaq himself says Hakeem is his Center of the 90s.
Shaq has always shown respect to Hakeem, which might have to do with how many times Hakeem schooled Shaq during Shaq's first couple years or so in the league.
@@eboooo That may be the case still would’ve been nice to hear Dennis’s answer before Shaq interrupted him 🤷🏾♂️ Smitty said it best “you can’t get every decade” I like Shaq but sometimes he comes across as sensitive if someone disagrees with him. We also see in this episode how salty he still is that Steve Nash won MVP twice.
Moses is the center of the 1980s, has to be. They give it to Kareem here, but there's a lot about the 1980s these guys are forgetting as they all take turns kissing Isiah's behind. Kareem couldn't handle Moses, Moses won two MVPs to Kareem's one in 1980, and Moses' Sixers swept the Lakers in the 1983 Finals. It has to be Moses.
At the end of the day for the Lakers, it was about Magic Johnson. Nobody's rushing to put Michael Cooper on the All-Decade team, and he has those same five rings Kareem won with Magic (btw, I think Cooper should be in the HOF, very underappreciated all-world defender who Bird said gave him the most trouble). Kareem was outplayed badly by Moses in the 1983 sweep by the Sixers. Parish got him in 84. Hakeem beat him him 86. Plus, these guys have Kareem as their center for the 1970s. I don't think Jabbar or Dr. J should have two decades. I watched the Bucks' Marques Johnson outplay Doc many times in the early 1980s and Bird dominated the middle years. There should be a one decade rule. In that sense, Kareem and Dr. J and Rick Barry WERE the 1970s in the NBA, so that's easy. Jordan then, should cede the 1980s to Sidney Moncrief, the only other choice at the 2 guard.
***** Offensive boards its not close at all - 7382 to 2975 (4000+ for Kareem if you estimate for the years the NBA didn't track those). Total rebounds per 100 possessions - 17.4 for Moses, 13.1 for Kareem - again, not too close. Total rebounds stats were always kept, so that's all of them for Jabbar.
***** Kareem played in 105 more games and wasn't considered a great rebounder in the 1980s. The raw number doesn't make your case, so whether it's a fact or not is irrelevant. And of course you can estimate if you make conservative estimates based on known performance. Based on kareem's numbers 1974-1977, we can conservatively say he had a minimum of 3 offensive boards a game and almost certainly more given the 115+ pace and the 42+ minutes per game KAJ was playing. At minimum, KAJ had 4000 career offensive rebounds. In the 1980s, the decade at issue, all rebounding counted: KAJ - 5980 total REB, 1563 ORB source permalink for KAJ: www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/abdulka01.html#1980-1989-sum:totals Moses - 10269 total REB, 4224 ORB source link: www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/malonmo01.html#1980-1989-sum:totals Moses All Pro in the 80s: 7x Kareem All Pro in 80s: 6x Head-to-head in playoffs - 2x, 1981 and 1983 Moses wins: 6 KAJ wins: 1 Lakers eliminated by Rockets (1981) and swept by Sixers (1983). Moses wins the 1980s. The Open Court guys clearly dissed Moses in this video. Don't make the same mistake!!
33:30 Shaq giving love to Olajuwon and Rick Smits. "Fake left (hard), go right." And Barry giving proper credit to Stockton, making Sloan and Malone's career's. But Reggie mentioning David Robinson. ... yes.... Thank you sir. Credit where credit is due. Navy vet, and a winner.
Dang this was therapeutic for me. Shaq just covered my entire childhood. Nick Anderson missing the free throws and little penny is basically elementary school for me.
I get everyone's criticism of Nash, especially since he's currently the only retired MVP winner who never reached the Finals. But let's not forget that he was also only one free throw shy of five straight 50-40-90 seasons. Bird averaged those numbers twice; while KD, Price, Reggie, Dirk, & Curry did so in one. Iverson's a great scorer; but he shot .425 fg%, .313 3p%, and .780 ft% for his career.
The reason A.I. or Kobe have lower %s from-the-field is due to several circumstances: A) for most of their careers both were their team's 1st-options on offense (frequently creating their own shot off the dribble) while Nash's primary role is the distributor -who MIGHT create his own shot - but he's as or more likely to catch&shoot, B) A.I. had diddly to kick it out to for 3s during his title run. He got a young Korver later but then ran into the Pistons or injuries every year since. Didn't mesh well-enough with 'Melo to last. In Bryant's case, in over 20 yrs he had Glen Rice for 1999-2000 and an injury-laden Vladimir Radmanovich in '05-'06. And the ever-intimidating Sasha Vujacic. Oh, and I nearly forgot: C) How often was Nash double-teamed?
Nash is probably the most overrated player of all-time. He was a poor man's John Stockton, and as great as Stockton was, he was never MVP level. That Nash won two when guys like Shaq, Kobe, and Garnett were around is ridiculous.
Still not MVP..dont see it. Plus all you have to do is put a Greg Popovich team in front of him and he folds. he never cracked the top 350 in DEFENSE. *prime example of his lack of defense* 👇 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kO4caOwS6jI.html I see how he can be a distributer..buts thats all..
Steve Nash couldn't have made the finals doing what Allen Iverson did. Iverson didn't even play on a team as talented as those early 00s mavs let alone those mid 00s suns.
John Stockton should be on every 90s top 5 for point guard. He was the purest point guard you could ask for. Passing. Steals. And durable. Never missed a game
He made fun of a lot of things that truly annoyed him back in the day and that still bother him nowadays. He had his clashes with Kobe and they grew apart for a while, but deep inside he knew Kobe was right in their personal feud (he admitted as much on their 1on1 documentary), and he always loved him as a little brother anyway. I don't think Shaq's bothered by anything Kobe related...except that Kobe got 5, and he only got 4 :).
Sadly, there will never be basketball like the 80's again. we were taught growing up in Detroit in the early 80's to play like the bad boys even before the bad boys existed. guy comes down the lane, make him pay and send him to the hospital. its just how it was. the reason it changed is just like regular tv, the lions share of women viewers didnt take to it. once you lose women viewers, the programming changes. ever think of this? in real life you see older guys with much younger hotter girls. but you dont see it on tv. for a reason.
The women? No one wants to watch the hacking basketball of the 80’s and 90’s and end up watching free throw contests. And if the only way you can stop someone is to hurt em, you don’t belong on the court anyway.
Jason Kidd was the best point guard of the 2000 era. Not only can he pass but can play defense. Wasn't a great shooter but he can score when needed. Had back to back nba finals appearrances, and etc.
29:20 Respect to Scott. Gotta give Dominique some credit. That guy was special, but stuck in Atlanta. Respect to DS for laying down the love for Wilkins. Deserved.
When Shaq layed on the couch I was cracking up!! When he said he was mad that Penny Hardaway had 'Lil Penney he is telling the truth. Penney Hardaway said in an interview once that when he first got the Lil Penney doll, that Shaq didn't speak to him for a week. I love Shaq, but at times he can be petty.
