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5150 vs 6505! The big METAL SHOOT-OUT! 

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The big Heavy Metal 5150 / 6505 shoot-out!
Today German producer Kristian Kohle (Aborted, Powerwolf, Electric Callboy, Hämatom, Van Canto, Emil Bulls) fights his inner demons and checks out four of the currently available 5150 / 6505 models! Which one is your favorite?
Her are the contenders (affiliate links):
1.) Peavey 6505 1992 ➡️bit.ly/3BiRxA7
2.) EVH 5150 III Stealth ➡️bit.ly/3LThXgJ
3.) Synergy Peavey 6505 Preamp ➡️bit.ly/3WaM48h
4.) Peavey 5150 Mini ➡️bit.ly/3MiLjqb
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Then check out my EMINENCE DV-77 IR pack:
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00:00 Intro
02:08 The Signal Path
02:58 The Amps
07:31 Peavey 6505 1992 vs EVH 5150 Stealth
11:17 Synergy Peavey 6505 Preamp
13:58 Noise Floor
14:28 Peavey 6505 Mini
17:49 All Four Amps Compared
20:15 Why Kohle does not love any 5150
22:11 Outro
#5150 #6505 #guitaramp #metalguitar

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27 июл 2024

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@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult Год назад
Which one is your favorite? I'm curious! 😇
@Ryan_Messenger
@Ryan_Messenger Год назад
#3 Synergy Preamp into the Marshall
@JoeHasGas
@JoeHasGas Год назад
Anything 6506
@CrushingAxes
@CrushingAxes Год назад
They all sound great! But I think for this riff I prefer the EVH.
@carlosalmeida7174
@carlosalmeida7174 Год назад
I prefer the EVH, I have that exact model with matching cab, and also a 6505 + in the rehearsal room with Marshall 1960 A and B Cabs (both great amps for sure). The sound pressure is satisfying as hell, I sometimes crank it and leave the room just to feel the walls shaking heheh. Let me tell you a trick if you don´t know already: the gain knob on the blue channel acts as a boost when you have channel 3 engaged, try it to see what you think. I have pretty much the same settings except for the gain and low which are lower (cleans up the sound to my taste). EMGs here as well!
@clemfandango2749
@clemfandango2749 Год назад
Synergy preamp into Marshall
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro Год назад
YES!! This is EXACTLY what I wanted see and hear!
@charlesrocks
@charlesrocks Год назад
Marvelous. 😃
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro Год назад
@@charlesrocksindeed. Marvellous
@Gma7788
@Gma7788 Год назад
Crazy lunacy. You haven't even got the evh to start working yet. You're not fooling the world audience. Evh is 3rd generation product.
@ronnymilianowicz5228
@ronnymilianowicz5228 9 месяцев назад
I saw you had a Engl Artist Edition. My fav Engl. Do you use it for metal or rock? Would love to see it in a future video.
@KeithMcKissick
@KeithMcKissick Год назад
I preferred the EVH because it was less "cloudy" than the Peavey. Also, happy to see you doing this type of content again! More of this, please.
@deathmetalglenn
@deathmetalglenn Год назад
Me too it sounded more focused and articulated
@sqlb3rn
@sqlb3rn Год назад
what type of content, amp heads?
@KeithMcKissick
@KeithMcKissick Год назад
@@sqlb3rn Basically, the type of content he was doing before he launched the Kult.
@hannibalbarkas1350
@hannibalbarkas1350 Год назад
Yea sounds a bit more open in the high end, I prefer it too. But i'd rather play some kind of modded Marshall. The Brunetti sounds really good btw.
@KeithMcKissick
@KeithMcKissick Год назад
@@hannibalbarkas1350 Like a Friedman or Splawn?
@TheSmallSk8er
@TheSmallSk8er Год назад
Das war wirklich cool zu hören! Dass die Unterschiede so krass ausfallen, hätte ich nicht gedacht. Tolles Video, vielen Dank!
@monsterk7603
@monsterk7603 Год назад
I'm a confessed 6505 junkie. I had the 6505mh to start, but, like you said, it lacked the grunt and grind. I bought the big brother 6505+ and that had what I was looking for. Ended up buying a 5150III and it seems like a completely different amp to me. My fave is still the 6505+. In your video, my fave was the 1992. \,,/
@lovecraftmusic8717
@lovecraftmusic8717 Год назад
Did you try an eq in the mh loop?
@monsterk7603
@monsterk7603 Год назад
@@lovecraftmusic8717 no, I was not far enough along in my amp knowledge to try that yet. It just didn't have the balls I was hoping it had.
@KahruSuomiPerkele
@KahruSuomiPerkele Год назад
Yes, the 6505 and 5150III are different amps. The 6505 is closer to a 5150 or 5150II, the 5150III on other hand has been redesigned, the stealth is from what I understand the same circuit but revoiced.
@monsterk7603
@monsterk7603 Год назад
@@KahruSuomiPerkele yes, I agree. I think Kohle hit the nail on the head when he said the 5150 III sounded more hi fi. I like it a lot, but drawn back to the 6505+ more often.
@ontologicaldiarrhea6582
@ontologicaldiarrhea6582 Год назад
​@@KahruSuomiPerkele 6505 is not "closer to 5150", it literally is 5150
@saitenkiller
@saitenkiller Год назад
Great video. You demonstrated and explained perfectly the gripes you have so often expressed regarding the 5150/6505. Especially that direct comparison to the Brunetti in the end was an eye opener - massively underrated amp.
@averycooper7920
@averycooper7920 Год назад
This is my favorite amp comparison video to date, love this format. Keep it up!!
@MarcBecker_Music
@MarcBecker_Music Год назад
Awesome! I'm quite impressed with the Synergy preamp and how well it works with the Marshall power amp.
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult Год назад
The whole system is great, Marc!
@needsLITHIUM
@needsLITHIUM Год назад
I've always preferred the EL34 variants of the 6505/5150 amps. My favorite was always the 6534+ or the EVH 5150 III EL34. Some of my favorite guitar tones were achieved with those, from Bring Me The Horizon to Gojira.
@mikehasty9536
@mikehasty9536 Год назад
Synergy module for the win in my book. Plus once you are in the ecosystem you open yourself up to pretty much and endless supply of amazing metal tones.
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult Год назад
It's a great concept and a great way of switching between all kinds of flavours fast!
@tzmix_rec1299
@tzmix_rec1299 Год назад
Great job on the shootout video. Straight ahead presentation really showed off the character of each amp. Great job with the channel as a whole. Very informative, I enjoy watching your videos. Keep up the good work.
@trenttilton3279
@trenttilton3279 Год назад
The Synergy 6505 module is incredible. It takes the original Peavey and EVH version and blends them to an amazing middle ground. I use it live with your DV77 IR direct into PA and its incredible.
@asnark7115
@asnark7115 Год назад
I think they all nail the tone down, especially for music that isn't at the dark metal end of things, believe it or not. All three lack articulation, though. The EVH EL34 gives you more of the sound from the strings than all of these do, but that's the cool thing about EVH and Peavey: You can buy one and mod the hell out of it for transparency or other things for less the price of an amp like REVV, MezzaBarba, or Soldano.
@AtTheSourceStudios
@AtTheSourceStudios Год назад
As good as it sounds here, it would be even better and more accurate with a designated power amp such as the Fryette Power Station or even the Synergy power amp then it would be almost indistinguishable
@TheMirrorify
@TheMirrorify Год назад
I enjoyed this man! I didn't hear a bad tone to be honest. Thanks for doing this, I know these aren't your favourite amps.
@tyrannosaurusriffs
@tyrannosaurusriffs Год назад
A lot of awesome things happening in this video. Happy to see you do this shootout as you’ve always been consistent on your feelings of these amps. And that’s awesome! It’s good to have a perspective like yours on a shootout. Love your content and love learning something from all of your videos! You’re the man! Now tell us your thoughts on 50 watt amplifiers vs 100! You seem to have a good mixture of the different sizes.
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult Год назад
50 vs 100w is a great idea for a video! Thanks!
@tyrannosaurusriffs
@tyrannosaurusriffs Год назад
@@KohleAudioKult yes! I'll be on the lookout for that one!
@philfort7886
@philfort7886 Год назад
​@@KohleAudioKult that would be great. I ve try an evh 50 watt vs an 100 watt once and it wasn't a big difference but the 100 watt have a fuller and bigger low end response.
@tylerbraun7600
@tylerbraun7600 Год назад
Im just happy you used the Softube Amp Collection song you wrote for this intro!
@steveregotti8542
@steveregotti8542 Год назад
Your description was spot on I agree totally 👍
@themetalchronicles.9557
@themetalchronicles.9557 Год назад
Loved the content 😊. Subbed !
@Trashed6
@Trashed6 Год назад
Awesome comparison! Das is Zuper!
@babahias
@babahias Год назад
Ranking: 1.Brunetti 2. 3. 4a. EVH 4b. Synergy-6505 (razor-close - might take the 4th place on its own with another poweramp) 5. 6. 6505 1992 7. Mini-Head It's worth noting that with another cabinet/IR/whatsoever this might turn out very differently. But in this combination I'm totally unimpressed by the "original". 😐 I don't want those mids in my house. 😤
@mick4316
@mick4316 Год назад
I see/hear what you're talking about the mids of the 5150/6505. It definitely has its place in the metal world, especially for those who want a real raw tone. Peavey Triple xxx is one of the more clear peavey amps and doesn't have a wonk in the mids that you don't like. That might be a decent amp for you if you haven't already. Great content as usual! Keep it metal, dude!
@creatio1
@creatio1 Год назад
I find your IRs (both Eminence and Rainbows/Chainsaws) ones of the most robust and fantastic sounding of all IRs I have used and heard. I love them and use them on all my productions (blended in many configurations). Cheers 😊
@hmtp177
@hmtp177 Год назад
Huge respect for the disclaimer and honesty.
@AndJesusSayWTF
@AndJesusSayWTF Год назад
You're right, we've been waiting for that ! :-D
@matteblackaudio
@matteblackaudio Год назад
EVH III was my favourite. Seemed more noisey and had more gain which may have contributed to the noise floor but overall that’s the one that speaks to my soul. What I would like to see is a video of the same amps, with the preamps going straight to DAW with a DV77(?) IR on them - to remove the power amp differences. Would be interesting to hear how different the pres are? 🤘
@johnneiberger7311
@johnneiberger7311 Год назад
My clear favorite is the Synergy preamp into the Marshall power amp. That sounds big, tight, clean and super crunchy. Love it.
@Stretchwreckedem469
@Stretchwreckedem469 Год назад
Once I started getting into different high gain amplifiers, I almost fell completely out of love with 5150 style amps, more specifically my Bugera 6262 Infinium. That was until I started playing Metal rhythms through the crunch channel with the gain cranked all the way up. It was an instant game changer for me. The rhythm channel on these amps I feel are the absolute pinnacle of American high gain distortion. After I started using the rhythm channel on my Bugera I wound up using the lead channel as an actual lead channel and I haven’t looked back to using the lead channel for rhythm playing ever since. Seriously good amps and it’s no wonder why bands across the world gigged with these.
@ordohereticus3427
@ordohereticus3427 3 месяца назад
"Classic 5150/6505 KONK KONK KONK!" Lol. Winning.
@vanessajazp6341
@vanessajazp6341 11 месяцев назад
That 6505 Synergy module is just SICK! (in a good way, LOL). Loved the Brunetti!
@hateascending
@hateascending Год назад
I just got the new 6505 II. Been recording with it and my Triple Rectifier, and they sound fucking brutal together!
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult Год назад
That can be a good combo. Mids + Scoop
@hatingheals
@hatingheals Год назад
Post a vid man! I wanna get a 6505 so bad
@TOTO-nr8vu
@TOTO-nr8vu Год назад
@@KohleAudioKult yes the perfect mix on some KSE album, THE sound of the beginning of Metalcore (dual/5150)
@hateascending
@hateascending Год назад
@@TOTO-nr8vu KSE fucking slays!
@PressK
@PressK Год назад
Funny, the Synergy sounded exactly as what a 5150 should sound like in my head.
@TheRandomSpectator
@TheRandomSpectator 10 месяцев назад
What an awesome video! Loved the EVH the most. Hopefully one day I'll be able to actually afford one 😭
@HeavyDude3000
@HeavyDude3000 Год назад
Awesome video. But what really would have been an interesting comparison, is a shootout from the peavey 6505 1992 against a peavey 5150 blockletter. Since that is the reference amp for the 6505 1992. Also it would be interesting to play the Synergy 6505 Modul over the real 6505 power amp, to see how close the Synergy Modul compares to the real preamp.
@billyhughes9776
@billyhughes9776 Год назад
I think I liked the Synergy module through the Marshall power amp the most. Still not my personal favorite type of tone for metal (I prefer Boogie or Bogner), but, they would all work (except for maybe that Mini) if well recorded and mixed. Great stuff Kohle!
@cizmar1972
@cizmar1972 Год назад
The 5150 stealth sounded best for Deathmetal in my opinion even better than the last amp in the video. It has that perfect scooped dark sound and still cuts through.
@drummingjeremy11
@drummingjeremy11 Год назад
very informative , thank you.
@charlesrocks
@charlesrocks Год назад
That Synergy module sounds amazing.
@matt926uk1
@matt926uk1 Год назад
Great presentation of the differences between the amps. I have a 6505mh and compared to the 5150 model in my helix it does lack low end. I just thought the helix was bassy but it makes sense as they are modelling the big amps.
@dickieradd
@dickieradd Год назад
I hate to say this, but the EVH's and their EVH 5150 pedal have this annoying harsh hiss that keeps me away from them. I prefer my tone to be thick, dark, more middy. you're the greatest amp comparer on youtube.
@heatnationwpb
@heatnationwpb Год назад
To my ears (with headphones) the EVH rules the roost here. I've never been a big fan of the 5150 amps overall, but I'm learning how well they can sit in a mix. I recently picked up the Bogren Ampknob plug-in 3pk out of sheer curiosity and I'm really digging it paired with a Dual Rec. 🤘
@sylvainbebert3704
@sylvainbebert3704 Год назад
interesting ! Thank you
@buzzsaw63
@buzzsaw63 Год назад
Peavey all the way here! Keep up the good work my friend!
@gabrielsmith7516
@gabrielsmith7516 Год назад
Great video, as always, Kohle. Would have liked to hear the Invective in the mix.
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult Год назад
Yeah, me too! But too many amps already 🤯
@CrushingAxes
@CrushingAxes Год назад
I usually prefer to use a Dual Rect or a Bogner, but 5150 it's great! Awesome video!
@leandrogodinho
@leandrogodinho Год назад
excellent post brother Hohle !!!! LIke ever man
@chasesrc
@chasesrc Год назад
I like the 1992. Does have that death metal sound. Thanks!
@jordansmith444
@jordansmith444 Год назад
The 5150 III is an amp I bought on a whim because I wanted something heavier than my orange or15. It has somehow become top 3 favorite Amps to use. However, I’m a rhythm player so I totally get your logic of the mids could sing a little more. Still love it
@tunesquid
@tunesquid Год назад
Had multiple Peavey amps and multiple 6505 amps over the years. The only Peavey I've kept long term is the JSX. I believe the 5150 has it's place and can sound great within a song. But it doesn't do it for me by itself. Whenever I record one, I tend to combine it with something. Loved the shootout. Fantastic work.
@vegangreen1269
@vegangreen1269 Год назад
JSX is the best Peavey I’ve played hands down
@nafis6668
@nafis6668 Год назад
man so much of that toothbrush sound , especially the EVH stealth
@horrorgardener
@horrorgardener 12 дней назад
I just made a new rig, Peavey 6505, EVH 2x12 6L6, Boss HM-2 ( for chainsaw), tuned down to A, ESP non-active pick ups. 13-56 strings. Sounds insane.
@analogkid4557
@analogkid4557 Год назад
I liked the synergy preamp with the Marshall amp out of the Peavys.
@jloiben12
@jloiben12 11 месяцев назад
I am glad you mentioned the preference v. good/bad thing. In reality, outside of specific technical specs (ie - noise), there really isn’t “good” or “bad” gear. It is just preference. It is do you like the sound/workflow/etc or don’t you?
@stephencox4509
@stephencox4509 Год назад
I used to have a 6505+ and it was an absolute beast. I regret selling it.
@conrauxyann5398
@conrauxyann5398 Год назад
I have a US Peavey 6505+ and a EVH5150III 50 Stealth, each has its particularities and I find them in this video. I use both for my records, the 6505+ for crunch tones and some leads, the EVH for high-gain rhythm guitars and some lead too. I like the mids from the 6505+ to give some warm to the sound, and the modern tightness of the EVH to bring aggressivity and depth to extreme riffs. Also, I like a lot mix these amps (particularly the EVH) with a Dual Rectifier. For punchy & detailed quad guitars records, it's unbeatable !
@CloudburstStudio
@CloudburstStudio Год назад
Very educational and awesome vid, thanks Kristian! I am a fan of both peavey and EVH but I will say I do prefer the 6505/OG 5150 more. They all have their place though depending on what you’re going for so I wouldn’t write out any amp in general 🙂
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult Год назад
Wise words!
@Ryan_Messenger
@Ryan_Messenger Год назад
@17:49 The difference should become less noticeable in the mix when using IRs with the mini head. The output (post gain) needs to stay below the point it adds fuzz into the distortion so it hits the loadbox with the right amount of headroom and doesn't clamp on the transient. Unless you're after the fuzzy tone of course. Try it with your DV-77 IR. 🤘
@TOTO-nr8vu
@TOTO-nr8vu Год назад
Yes with IR comparaison
@thiofabian9568
@thiofabian9568 Год назад
Your brunetti really has some killer mids over there 🤘🏼
@rzutyjenkin398
@rzutyjenkin398 Год назад
Cranked poweramp doesn't sound too impressive itself but I think it has some potential. Try crank small poweramp(tonestack and other tone controlls - use for shaping drive)=>loadbox=>some EQ=>bigger poweramp=>cab. There's potential for a lot of fun when it comes to creating dirty, nasty sounds.
@Dave_TheMetalJester
@Dave_TheMetalJester Год назад
It really amazed me at first listening how the 6505 1992 model much It really carried the early 2000s In Flames tone!! And without boost!! Oh man that was magic. I prefer the stealth, sounds more "modern" and tamed un a good way. Like a properly sharpened Blade. The sinergy with the Marshall surprised me a lot!! Very enjoyable tone
@devinlong6304
@devinlong6304 Год назад
You should do a follow-up to this adding in the 6505+, 6534, mesa, etc mixing and matching to isolate power amp differences
@LOWFREQUENCIES
@LOWFREQUENCIES Год назад
1992 was really a great year for Death Metal ... because this my 1st experience in a studio as guitarist ( I' m laugthing) ...6 bands, 3 very close friends band I had the idea to made a cd compilation and we talk to a record shop that I knew ... and the rest was organised in this shop ... result ? The first french death metal cd compilation was out :D ... I love the EVH III ( Meshuggah used it on their last album ) 5150 ... bring me back to a Carcass show in my town ... and I really like the tone too :)
@beautague9163
@beautague9163 Год назад
That's why i love the synergy 6505 module... need to get it, but like you said.... that uberschall and pitbull are so freaking good
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult Год назад
Indeed! Very versatile combo.
@beautague9163
@beautague9163 Год назад
@KohleAudioKult honestly can get some ridiculous cleans and dirty cleans from pitbull, and my favorite high gain with a boost in front. Uberschall is an absolute animal especially with the cathode switch in the middle position
@BlackChromeJamTracks
@BlackChromeJamTracks Год назад
Yes!!! That's the best I've ever heard the 5150 explained. They don't sing at all. Love that Brunetti, sell a capture of that amp for ToneX!!! Also yes, everyone buy the DV77 IR pack, it really is worth the money!!!
@marcpeiron_studio
@marcpeiron_studio Год назад
Regarding the end, it's a matter of taste, I prefer the 6505 mids :) Cool video! I'd love to see it compared to the Dual Rectifier too.
@mariusvolz5471
@mariusvolz5471 Год назад
I`d love to see you do a follow up video loading some of the current 5150/6505 guitar plugins and share your thoughts after doing this video... I am aware that the IRs will make a huge deal but I'd find it interesting to hear some of your impressions and thoughts
@apoplexiamusic
@apoplexiamusic Год назад
EVH 5150 Stealth all day for me! Such a killer, modern sound. The Synergy preamp also sounds great! But the Brunetti XL sounded fantastic! (too bad its emulation in TH-U isn't as good)
@danadane2501
@danadane2501 2 месяца назад
As somebody who is leaning heavily to biilding my dream rig. Which woyld be a Peavy 6505 half stack. This video is very helpful.
@paradox-community_metal
@paradox-community_metal Год назад
Was using rack stuff in the late 90s and tried a 5150 then but didn´t like it...and it still has that tone I don´t love. I hate the need to dial out the mids for a tight tone... it lacks pressure then. I think I want my mids around 250Hz and not over 300Hz maybe...just estimated. The EVH sounded slightly better for me and Synergy maybe best although rack preamps etc. mostly feel a little less dynamic etc. but maybe good controlled and tighter. It is funny that the taste mostly doesn´t change so much over the years and I never loved the standard stuff everyone was using. Today I have a fully tuned H410 for Hardrock and a Revv Generator 120 for metal...but maybe more to come! Thanks for great comparison!!!
@DavePowell666
@DavePowell666 Год назад
Kinda always hoped a 5150 video would happen one day haha! 😈🍻 I still like my 6505 for playing live (although I don't have another 100w head to compare it to), but I would say I preferred the EVH in this shootout as it seemed to have more clarity. As sexy as the full size heads are, these days the amps I'm looking for need to be fly-rig/tour friendly such as the pedal amps by Blackstar, Laney, Victory etc
@lusteraspiration
@lusteraspiration Год назад
Could you use something like a Precision Drive in front of the amp and put a noise gate like the Zuul or ISP Decimator in the loop?! It’s like a night and day difference and is kind of how it’s meant to be used with modern metal tones.
@jimrutters6097
@jimrutters6097 Год назад
I remember commenting on a video of yours a few years back or more about the 5150. And how you weren’t a huge fan of it. I personally have the 5150 block letter and the iconic. But I would have to say from this video the synergy was my favorite.
@wadebristow6060
@wadebristow6060 Год назад
Nice demo, dose amp size matter when using a reactive load box and an IR? Can you get a similar sound from a small amp to a big amp?
@KianF
@KianF Год назад
I think the difference in low end between the mini and the 1992 is due to the fact that 25W isn't enough to get the cab to resonate fully. This is also one of the main differences I hear between amp sim tones and live cab tones, some live cab recordings just have a super subby rumble that I don't think amp sims quite replicate.
@syringametal
@syringametal Год назад
Nice vidéo as usual!!! If you can, try the original peavey ultra. Just the best amp i ever played… some manu options… so versatile… and to be honest a real game changer at this time… but forgotten because it’a not « EVH »
@Maggai
@Maggai Год назад
I absolutely love the 1992.
@joemaxdenty783
@joemaxdenty783 9 месяцев назад
1992 and Synergy for me. The Brunetti is spectacular
@willchug
@willchug Год назад
The Synergy into the DSL EL34 power amp sounded killer and best here to me Kohle. 🤘 The EVH was clear and even. And the 1992 did sound pissed off.
@TheSoulflytriber
@TheSoulflytriber Год назад
The Peavey 6505 module features a three-position switch on the PCB, which allows you to configure the input tube bass response to match the original circuit of the selected module. This will affect the feel and tightness. Each amp designer has a specific combination of components that make up their input tube circuit. We have selected the three most popular combinations which you can access with this switch. The USA voiced modules typically use setting 1 (1.5K resistor and 22uf capacitor). British-style modules use position 2 (2.7K resistor and .68uf capacitor). The Peavey 6505, just like the Soldano and Vai modules use position 3 (1.8K resistor and 1uf capacitor)
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult Год назад
Position 3 used in the video
@MrGuitarNerd
@MrGuitarNerd Год назад
Finally! Thank you Kohle!
@MrGuitarNerd
@MrGuitarNerd Год назад
Next idea! Compare Orange Rockerverb to Dual Dark! 🤘🏼
@MrNoHopeDoomcore
@MrNoHopeDoomcore Год назад
I have to say that I fell in love with the EVH 5150 as much as I fell in love with the Rectifier back in the 90s. The EVH has got this growl I miss on other amps. I shortly owned an original 5150 (for 600 DM(!)) but sold it again after a few weeks because it wasn't my tone. Now I have a 6505 which sound great in his "allroundness" and taking pedals good. But it's still not my cup pf beer...still I'm craving for an EVH!!
@Zappabain
@Zappabain Год назад
maybe try some other brands? I write this to give ideas to people who arennew to all of this: you could listen to the 50 or the 2x amps comparison video. Also try finding your tone with an eq pedal in the FX loop if haven't tried (it's really noticeable). And another EQ pedal as first pedal of the chain to change where the gain will act more (mids...) or just a tube screamer with no gain or other boost pedal.
@powersv2
@powersv2 Год назад
So what do I do if I live in an apartment and play 7 strings? Head straight into interface? I know the mini has less preamp gain stages and power. I need the chord clarity thru the gain. Black metal lets me scoop the bottom end, but i’ve been trying to bring bottom end back up
@JacobNates
@JacobNates Год назад
Damn I want a stealth. So killer
@alrecks619
@alrecks619 Год назад
I wonder how could Eddie (R.I.P.) fell in love with that lower midrange scoop and upper midrange boost, but then again his more classic tones do sound like that.
@pauljohn5584
@pauljohn5584 Год назад
My dude. Do you have an ohmage pref? My JMP absolutely sounds best when allowed to be at 4 ohms. My dual rec does 4,8 & 16 great but I still prefer 4 & 8 over 16. This distinction to me seems to also hold with whatever speaker I’m going into. Trouble is, I can’t tell if that part is a psychoacoustic effect. Im curious, is this an area you have thoughts on? I imagine you do.
@Brennosguitarsandgear
@Brennosguitarsandgear Год назад
Synergy was my preference 🤘🏽
@tarynwebster2883
@tarynwebster2883 Год назад
Wow the big amps really move some air, so much more extended low end. Its interesting that Marshall use 2 el34's in the power section of a lot of their 20 watt models, I wonder if this improves the lack of low end that is present in every 15-25 watt el84 based amplifier?
@Joey.Darkwoods-Studio
@Joey.Darkwoods-Studio Год назад
Just curious, was the resonance on the Stealth opened up or closed? I put mine at 12 o'clock for a little more "chug" in the bottom end...
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult Год назад
It was pretty wide open. Maybe 2 o'clock. Don't remember the exact setting though.
@juanbazarra98
@juanbazarra98 Год назад
Hi Kohle, could you talk about tha bass and his signal path of your intro and your riffing of the inicial part of the video?
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult Год назад
The riffing is the do called Grindstein don’t that I wrote when we released the Grindstein pedal. Bass tone: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4oBfYbQLBPc.html
@ericb4351
@ericb4351 Год назад
2 things from my extensive use of 5150s since before they were cool! The PV really doesn’t like EMGs. Of course plenty have used it but maybe it’s why you have the treble jacked up so high. It seems to not have the highs come thru. Also, the DV77 with the 5150 and 5153 which I still have both, just exacerbated those mids that you don’t like. We like what we like, but that speaker with the 5150 was a 100% “No go” for me
@rcrighter4319
@rcrighter4319 Год назад
Interesting how much better that 5150 preamp sounds thru the Marshall power amp.
@ithebastardking2800
@ithebastardking2800 Год назад
Synergy with the EL34 power amp wins imho. I love the ubershall module in a EL34 power too. So maybe I just love EL34's 😆
@UhuStick
@UhuStick Год назад
Nice. Mich haben die Unterschiede zwischen den beiden Amps schon immer interessiert, aber keine Möglichkeit gehabt sie gegeneinander anzuspielen.
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult Год назад
Viel Spaß!
@davidfuller581
@davidfuller581 Год назад
TBH I found that the Peaveys just need mods, the circuit is really dialed for early 90s Ed. It's got some dropping resistors pre-tonestack that really make it sag and make the tonestack not do much, on top of the power amp using a dropping resistor instead of a choke between the plate and screen nodes of the power supply. It's loose and spongy because that's how Ed wanted it. Side note: He was playing Soldanos at the time.
@WholeLottaBulldog
@WholeLottaBulldog Год назад
Thanks for explaining the nutty gritty. Gotta say, I like how the 6505s sag a bit. If I want uber tight with no chew, I'd go solid state.
@davidfuller581
@davidfuller581 Год назад
@@WholeLottaBulldog the mods don't make it behave like a solid state at all, just better.
@josephmay6454
@josephmay6454 4 месяца назад
low end takes more energy per perceived doubling in volume than mids or highs. This is why amps with a big power section tend to have a more solid low end
@wingee
@wingee Год назад
Would’ve loved to have heard the Synergy going through several different power amps
@mrclarksix
@mrclarksix Год назад
I'm with you on these amps. I had an OG block letter and I miss the Peavey JSX I once had more than the 5150. I agree about the umusical midrange and no matter how I would try to EQ it in a live setting, I would never be satisfied. I now play some of the more affordable offerings from Engl like the Screamer and the discontinued Thunder 50 and I have the aggression I always wanted, that's tight, with controlled lows, and musical, un-annoying midrange. Of the amps you've tested here, I'd opt for the EVH every time. Eddie's improvements were on the money.
@vegangreen1269
@vegangreen1269 Год назад
JSX is my favorite peavey for sure
@jason.martin
@jason.martin 6 месяцев назад
I always find I had to take out 700HZ due to the upper midrange honk, that is paired with a MESA 4x12/57 combo
@Shred_Rocket
@Shred_Rocket Год назад
I have both, 6505 and 5150IIIs, and I use both. I do prefer the sound that I can achieve from them. There is a meanest that appeals to me from the Peavey, yet the EVH has a creamy sound from the high-gain channel, is great for leads, and no boost is required. The Brunette, on the other hand, in this context of your vid, seems and sounds digital-like. Could be the DV-77s, and yes, I also have the DV-77s in one of my Mesa OS slant cabs, otherwise V30s in the other. Needless to say, the Synergy did sound polished, have to agree.
@morellasgeorgios8449
@morellasgeorgios8449 Год назад
The brunetti has so clear and sweet mids it kind of hurts to hear the other amps fail in that regard. Nothing digital at all. The evh was actually the worst offender sound wise. At least the 1992 has the original character. It think the synergy sounds smaller in comparison but the versatility is ridiculous and easy to take it over the evh. In the end all are a bit different. And if you throw a real soldano in there..
@mikeingram3186
@mikeingram3186 Год назад
You should try what dimebag did with an eq before the amp
@marvinrockon
@marvinrockon Год назад
Yeah the brunetti sounds wonderful. Out of the 5150 variants, i liked the Peavey, the Synergy, the EVH and at last the mini. I think if youre looking for a 5150, the RAW power and aggression is what you want. The EVH sounds like its been mixed already, less raw. Less room to tinker with the sound. Then again, my absolute favorites, Meshuggah, used the EVH in their latest album, so theres that. I think they are all great. But liked the new big Peavey the most
@remibrunetti7038
@remibrunetti7038 Год назад
What about a full video on the Brunetti ?! :D
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult Год назад
I’m gonna do a video about both my Brunettis hopefully soon! Stay tuned!
@yvesfellay4343
@yvesfellay4343 Год назад
This Brunetti is fucking amazing !!!! 😍
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