It’s remarkable how close you got them for your modern metal purposes, considering there have been almost 20 years of evolution between the two! Love my Stealth, bought it because of you man 💪👊
Thanks for commenting. Yeah I was surprised at how close I got them as well. That said, with the Easter eggs in the stealth, you can really find tune so much stuff that I call it a total winner in the shootout. The 6505II still sounded really good though. It's a great alternative for people who don't have the kind of money to spend on the stealth.
Great video!! I am in full agreement with your take on the Stealth. I thought It would be closer after watching yesterday's video. The 05 is killer like you said, but the Stealth is like Willie Nelson's pony tail.....Nasty, thick, and brutal.
Hallo Jarrod, thanks for your videos. They are a great help to make up your mind. Though I am from a different direction of style and only chage from time to time to my metal amps I really love the stealthsound! A little bit earlier I have seen your comparison between the stealth 50 and 100w and decided to save for a 50w. So, thanks a lot again.
Both of them sound good to me. Otherwise, during mixing and Mastering process a lot of things happening, will see what fit easily into it. Great review 👏 🔥
The 6505 really does keep up when it has a boost. As far as massive lead tones, they’re so close. The stealth just honestly has a ton more versatility. And the fact that it really doesn’t need a boost is insane. It’s more expensive but you really get a TON of amp for 2.5k.
I am an active working musician and I can confidently tell you that the EVH 100W Stealth is the best and most reliable head I have used. If you get the volume to at least 10 o clock, the tone is unbelievable. I have the EL34 as well, which I prefer for most gigs and genres. But the stealth is a fire breathing dragon! 🔥🔥🔥 Love these videos by the way. Just love seeing comparisons! 🤘
Could you please explain why do seem to prefer el34 100w? I am considering both 100w version, and leaning to el34 because it seems it has just a bit more Marshall DNA in it with those tubes, but maybe 6L6 black one is better? Thanks
@@arsentoplak2635 I feel like the blue channel/rhythm responds with a mid focused tone that allows me to cut through the mix. I tend to tinker more with the 6L6 when there are two guitars. Now that I think about it, I like the 6L6 a lot when I am the only electric guitarist. Maybe it’s in my head. If I had to choose between the stealth or EL34 for variety/diversity, then the EL34 seems to be my fit.
i think by putting a good eq in the fx loop of the 6505 you could match the hm's and highs of the stealth, but i wonder how they compare as far as harmonic richness and articulation.
It's really great to see your channel getting real traction man. You're such a natural on camera. I admire that, as it's something I've always struggled with.
Thank you very much. I really appreciate it. It's been a lot of work and a lot of time spent. I'm so glad I'm finally getting some traction here as well. On a side note, it's taken me a bit to get comfortable on camera. It's definitely not easy to do sometimes. The best thing to do is just stick with it and eventually it becomes natural because you're just doing it all the time .
@TONE WARS reckon I've been subbed since 2017 or so, but can only imagine how many thousands of hours you've buried into this... its appreciated. I'm eyeing off a Tonex right now, and would love to purchase your packs once I do. Cheers brother.
sorry i never thanked you for this badass review and comparison not too many on you tube dont compare directly and lot of us out here trying to buy best we can on a budget at home to just rock out....thankfully i live on 10 acres and get to unleash occasionally.... raised 7 kids...appreciate you
I love how you really get excited about the "unruly frickn beast" of the Stealth. It is a nitrous bottle filled beast and why I love mine. I'm actually quite shocked how well the 6505 II kept up boosted. Didn't expect that. Your reaction comments are bang on. Thanks for all the hard work you put in to both amps in the ring..!! Hat's off to you again Jarrod 🎸
I often wonder how much fun epic players like Jimmy Hendrix and Randy Rhoads for example would have had just to play through these modern amps. Priceless! We are very fortunate and blessed 😊
Seriously, Thanks a ton for this! The stealth has been on my bucket list but because how good the 6505 is i found myself debating if its the right one for me. This concludes any doubts. Thank you again
@12:04 - the differences between the two are definitely audible here. You've got to be using some quality headphones, but compression is definitely not an issue.
I have wanted to buy the 100 watt Stealth head but I just don't need that much of an amp..but Damn it man ! Thats an awesome trick on the Blue channels gain control while on the Red channel..sick ! I do like the Peavey too but to me there's no comparison. Great job as always Jarrod !
I think I’m leaning more towards the Peavey 6505 these days. Currently have a 6505+ and a stealth 100 and I find the 6505 to be much more aggressive in the mids and just way more raw and cutting. The stealth seems to be a lot more mid scooped, which is t really my thing.
As someone who loves high gain, honestly I think the Stealth has too much gain. In a mix that level of gain just becomes mud. You could always turn the gain knob down though! Not a huge fan of the 5150 in general here, but the 6505 II boosted in the orange channel sounds almost identical to the Stealth in Blue/orange, especially after the tweaks. Overall, the Stealth just seems more "processed," where the 6505 is clearly more warm and punchy. But I can see why you would like the Stealth more. It's very modern sounding. Enjoy the channel, thanks for the content.
Yeah, you can bring the gain, down a good bit. Jarrod plays with more gain the most guys haha that being said, I owned a 5150 block letter and I felt the Stealth 100 just destroyed it in every way. I sold the block letter.
@Gnarwhal89 I got the 50 watt. I can definitely mellow that thing out enough to do blues, real classic rock, etc. I even boost for harder metal with an MXR Modified Custom Badass. It's a very versatile amp. I think some folks base an opinion on all the high gainer vids out there. There is definitely a lot tweak nuances with the Stealth IMO.🤘 Also like he said..RU-vid compresses a lot. The Stealth is very articulate and you can hear every note to every chord in the room.
Man, the stealth may very well be one of the best amps ever made. It's half the price of the more prolific boutique amps, and it's just amazing how tight the low-end is while maintaining articulation even with the conventional scooped tone. I am by no means talking trash about the 6505, but if your metal guitarist, the stealth is amazing for everything from 70's Sabbath, 80's Dokken, 90's Pantera, and ALL modern metal (i.e., Meshuggah, In Flames, Slaughter to Prevail, et al). The ultimate test is the EVH Stealth vs Diezel Herbert MK3!!!! Lastly, I just wanna say it's awesome you make recommendations based on the availability of disposable income (e.g. 17:00 - 17:20) and I really have a lot of respect for that aspect of your demos and it demonstrates the quality of your character, modesty, and integrity as well as your ability to empathize with those lacking the means to get all the high-end expensive gear 🤘
Thank you so much for the kind words. The Stealth is definitely a "must have" amp for metal if you can afford it. It's gonna be all over my solo album.
I think you mistake tighter as being better. its not the case. I miss the growl and balls out aggression of the OG block letter in both II/+ and III. you can’t really get useable tone boosting those as they’re already boosted sounding. with original you have more range and room for tone shaping.
The Stealth wins hands down. I know I will be the party pooper here (and I'm ready to receive stones haha), but except for helping lowering the stupid high prices on the old Peavey 5150/6505, I don't see the appeal of buying a brand new 6505 II when the changes don't seem to bring the amp to a whole new other level. Having the same ''okay'' clean, ''okay'' crunch, still with the big jump in volume on top of that when you switch from clean to crunch, just there it's a deal breaker for me. Having a separate power chord (wow what an invention), different voltage selection (it's cool to have but let's be real here...touring musicians uses more modelers nowaday and the 5150 line is not hard to find anyway if you need one), better transformer are definitely not enough big upgrades imho to justify the price since the sound is not worlds apart too from the originals. I would prefer personally to buy a used 6505+ and maybe get it modified by FJA(for example). We live in an era where there are soooo many different amps companies now that do outstanding products. And all this is coming from a Peavey aficionados...I owned a shit ton of amps but my main one is still the 3120 (and I have an Ultra Plus 120 too). I always come back to Peavey...always. They are still the best bang for your buck used in my opinion. I would love Peavey to come with something new or completely reinvented like I don't know...a brand new take on the VTM series? The modded Marshall stuff is super popular.
I feel the 6505 2 in the red channel after the adjustment was better than the stealth. More fuzziness in the gain in the stealth, which In return could make for a dirtier mix on a recording. The best comparison would be the original 6505 , 6505 2 and then stealth.
I hear ya lol. I still think the music I grew up with is modern. When people call it classic rock, I look at them like, "this isn't The Rolling Stones dude."
Oh man, around the 28 minute mark you have them sounding identical on the red channels. I guess now It come down to feel and how they hit you in the room. I think price point alone would send me to the 6505II to at least try first.
I don’t know man that stealth is kick ass but once you’re boosting that 6505 those low gutter all mids just show up and the overdrive gives it that nice grinding sizzle on top and I think the stealth sounds great with that Easter egg, but boosted it’s just too goddamn much of everything so I think overall even though you get a lot more with the stealth the best most crucial sound is that 6505 boosted I think overall it was just the best and I have had a lot of 6505 and 5150sI’ve had all the 50 W EVH but they were always just a little too nasty and too compressed for me and I have always been kind of a 5150 hater but sometimes I gotta give them credit when they are right they are pretty unstoppable
With respect to the stealth i think peavey will be sit in the mix better cos it's sound more in u'r face and it has more mids. But both of them sound so good.
@@thanos4480 even this guy doing the videos 'Tone Wars' dumped his 6505 for the stealth, it does the 6505 and more if you Q it up and right cab/speaker.
@@realtruenorth lol i have 6505 1992 original, 6505 II. Stealth 100, Iconic and invective 120. No space waste at all. I am a huge fun of peavey and EVH
To start, I want to say I think the Stealth is an awesome amp, and well worth the price tag! However, to me "versatility" means that it is capable of a wider range or variety of tones, rather than being capable of achieving a similar outcome by many different means (with OD vs. without OD), so I say the 6505 is the more versatile, since it can do classic tones better thanks to its more mid-forward voicing and mellow character. Also, as far as EQ is concerned, it's easier to dial unwanted frequencies out rather than add them in, so the 6505 is a better canvas for sculpting your tone in that regard, unless you're a purely modern metal guy for whom the Stealth offers a nearly perfect starting point. To summarize my overall idea though, I think you can make a 6505 sound just as brutal as the Stealth with the right EQ and overdrive, whereas it will be more difficult to get the Stealth to do classic tones as well as the 6505 does naturally. Ultimately, I think the 6505 is more versatile.
Thanks for commenting. Have you tried cranking the gain all the way up on the green channel of the stealth and boosting it with an overdrive? That does the classic rock thing perfectly
@@TONEWARSgearshow Thank you for the great video! To answer your question, yes, it does sound great, but it doesn't do that quite as well as the 6505, IMO. To me it sounds a bit more modern, even with the help of an EQ pedal to try and get a more classic response and EQ curve out of it. Again, I love the stealth and it is worth the higher price if you prefer a more modern sound, but I appreciate the versatility of the 6505, and that old-school voicing it possesses inherently.
The Stealth is the Stealth. We all knew how this would go. I think a better comparison might be the 6505-II and the ICONIC. If the Iconic can hold-up against the 6505-II, that is another $500 savings! ( Considering they are both "Made in China". )
@@TONEWARSgearshow No worries. You showed us what it can do, and how it stacks-up against the Stealth. You can throw pedals at the 6505-II and make it work. That's all we do: buy an amp we can afford, and then throw pedals at it to make it work!
They're NOT comparable. They're separate electrical systems. They're not compatible with any other brand's product. EVH is a spin off of Fender. It's on a more complex level than Fender and Peavey.
Man, I like the 6505 II better than the EVH. At least through RU-vid. Sounds like too much resonance on the EVH or something. Both are awesome, I’d have to scratch my head here when buying one of these. Too much flub on the EVH. Higher frequencies on the EVH are way hallow. Too much low mid; though, it rocks more than the 6505II in those lows tones kick in.
Haha, you're wayyyyy worse than me when it comes to recycling the same riffs :D The II sounds pretty good though, but you just can't beat that Stealth. In saying that... I would never pay the new price tag that thing is right now in Australia. It's ridiculously expensive with the extra taxes on top.
What I am hearing it totally different to you. To me the sound of the Stealth sounds like it has a pillow over the speaker - I guess I am the only person here who thinks the 6505 II is the better amp, someone better pass me the Kool Aid.
Lol. If you like the 6505ii more, that's totally fine. That's what this video is for. My job is to show the amplifiers in their best settings and let you guys pick the winner. Honestly, I think both of them sound amazing in their own way.
When you said "I'm gonna try some classic rock". My brain went to Zeppelin, Sabbath, or even Montrose. But you went mid 80s Dokken. It was at that moment....I felt my age😂
Your videos kinda make all your amps sound the same. Something about the way you capture them idk, but the amps dont sound as good as they do in real life. I have noticed other videos that capture the amps much more realistically. Just my 2 cents. Good videos though.
My thoughts exactly. My Boss Katana head was $350, and it is made in Malaysia. If Boss can avoid China and Mexico, so can these other companies. I would actually prefer all these amps to be made in JAPAN, but I realize that is asking for the moon.
Im only 30 seconds in and the real winner here is the EVH Iconic. Both the 6505-2 and the EVH stealth are direct copies of amps Line 6 designed and modeled. Even though these amps use tubes, they sound really good. Nothing can ever beat a digital original. The Bit mapping is just too good.
