Can the 5150 Iconic fool the pros? 6505 1992 Original vs 5150 Iconic BLIND TEST

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@TobyKBTY Год назад

Hundreds of amps in Sweetwater and Kyle makes a shootout on 5150's. Never change, bro.

@TheCyberMantis Год назад

No kidding. I would have been looking for a BadCat LYNX, but I don't think Sweetwater sells BadCat.

@user-vu7ny6lh5r 6 месяцев назад

James Brown in black man and white amp builder 👶🎤🙏👶🎤🙏

@MrBikboi 3 месяца назад

@@TheCyberMantis Wow your tastes are soooo refined dude!

@TheCyberMantis 3 месяца назад

@@MrBikboi Actually not. I have a Boss Katana head, and I am quite happy with it.

@greg24hoareau Год назад

James Brown did a great job...one of the best amp designer.

@Reverend_Taco Год назад

I’m very upset that he unfriended me on Facebook.

@riokinsey2134 7 месяцев назад

@@Reverend_Taco he did?! Why?!

@savoirfaire8979 Год назад

At first glance, Kyle looks like the type of dude who listens to “Jock Jams” but ends up being cool to hang out.

@bbck15 Год назад

Really like the long back an forth you guys were having describing the different tones these amps produce

@mustangmaster94 Год назад

Hey Kyle, You and Don should do more videos together!!! Amazing content 👌 👏

@ErikAnders Год назад

Hell yes

@SAMARIUM_Taylor 5 месяцев назад

I love the two of you doing your thing. Very grateful to have such amazing footage of some tone loving demons! 🤘🏻

@27retrodaze Год назад

Don is who taught me how to use a preamp through the return of the effects loop many years ago... Simple now, but at the time, to me, it was incredible...

@manicmurph 3 дня назад

What is it that you do?

@JasonMcNamara Год назад

Your knowledge and ability to dial in those tones was sublime and you totally fooled Don. Well done Kyle!! 🤘

@okayestguitar66 Год назад

Great video Kyle and Don! Very cool amp. I would like to see a head-to-head between the iconic 40w combo and the 15w combo through their individual speakers and through the same speaker and/or load box/impulse.

@xiwiwix Год назад

Damn, Kyle, you are my favorite RU-vid Guitar Personality. You just have this "oh, Kyle, yeah, we go way back, he's a homie" attituded/lovable quality about you. Thank you, thank you for all the videos you've made, all the knowledge you bring, and all the good chuckles to hardiful laughs you bring, bro. GREAT FRICKEN VIDEO! \m/

@xiwiwix Год назад

Thank you, Don, you were great in this video!

@antilaw9911 Год назад

Really liked this video with both of you!

@Paul_Lenard_Ewing Год назад

Killer demo. Thanx. This is the detail we need.

@OurWorldinChaos Год назад

This was cool to see you guys compare these amps ❤❤❤❤ awesome vid

@markkinney5030 Год назад

That was so cool watching this just now road test both amps! Nice!

@ErikAnders Год назад

You had me fooled too Kyle 😂 sick video

@Doc-zg3xm Месяц назад

Great video, and you guys worked well together. No big heads just, just a fun comparison.

@bjstein4242 Год назад

Cant get enough of this stuff man.. keep it coming..

@if6turnedouttobe9 Год назад

Great sounding amps...I have a PV 5150 II and have loved it since they came out...

@ronnymilianowicz5228 Год назад

Man, you are a great host! More of that!

@ragadeemann Год назад

Great video 📹 I throughly enjoyed it. 😊

@rickycompton2610 Год назад

Killer video Kyle, you know your amps Bro and Don Carr is a monster player who never gets enough credit, It just goes to show if you know how to dial an amp in its hard to tell the difference.

@KingStudiosCollective Год назад

Killer video. Had to sub. I’ve seen your gear for sale a lot on FB market place ! My studio is not too far. I’m in Allentown 👌

@mastersteve78 Год назад

I picked the Iconic on both! I really want one now. 5150 Iconic just has a certain sweet sound to my ears, loving the chugs and chops from it. ❤

@glaucosouza1971 Год назад

What a blast!!! A joy to watch. Killer video!

@JustJoshing4L Год назад

This is A+ content, my dude.

@Twy7chTec_Vayper Год назад

This is just another vid of proof that taking time dialing in your Amp/Head, can truly payoff...also is headache too lol 😆 😂 this was a really great vid today dude!

@chacha134 Год назад

I did this as which one I liked better and glad to see I picked the same amp both times. I will say when Kyle dialed them in they sounded super close.

@RokDAWG1 Год назад

Mighty fine shootout! Kyle I’m waiting for Peavey to give you, your own model. 🤘🤘

@nickharper8145 Год назад

Always happy to see some 5150 videos from you. Any chance of ever comparing a 6534+ to a 6505 II with el34 tubes? Supposed to be identical but for all of us looking for that unicorn 34+ it might be best to go with a 6505 II and get it ready for a tube swap. \m/

@jasonmayse5585 Год назад

I own the iconic and am very pleased for the price, sounds great too..once you EQ to taste and balance your ODs in front this amp its killer 🤘🏻

@kennethjolley 6 месяцев назад

Dude iconic is getting so much love now. Seemed like everyone hated it at first.

@emartinezr 5 месяцев назад

Because nobody had played it, reasonably heard it, or heard someone who knows what they're doing dial it up properly. There's a few RU-vidrs with amazing tones with the Iconic. It does have a distinct tone/voice. If you want to tame a bit of the highs and upper texture, don't go high with Presence and don't get super bright strings.

@auntjenifer7774 4 месяца назад

😂 People in the n internet were trying to kill it before it even came out over it only having 2 pre amp tubes but clearly it sounds like an EVH product so it rocks !

@antilaw9911 Год назад

Feel definitely matters! Part of warm tube tone

@mikestroud9969 Год назад

Both sound great. Good video. 😎👍✌️🎸🎸

@iwannarockon2010 Год назад

Killer shootout! 🤘

@TheFaustianMan Год назад

Oh this fucking ROCKED! Dude, it's all the dialed in. And you nailed it!

@tgchan Год назад

Good job, Kyle you made them almost identical xD I had hard time differentiate which one is which. You should more colabs.You're great with others/

@TheToecutter69 Год назад

Awesome vid! Both amps rip! 🤘🏼🤘🏼

@gtrman69777 Год назад

I would love to hear how the EVH 5150 lll models compare to these.

@jasonhoneman1272 Год назад

This is so clever and genius!!

@keithpins1 Год назад

What a killer vid man!

@bloozer666 Год назад

I have an original first release peavy 5150 and and original first release 6505 and LOVE them both.. And people who say they don't do cleans... I can get fender cleans out of both no problem.

@JInfinity7 3 месяца назад

You can use a Parametric up front for the cocked wash sound too

@guitarandmore69 Год назад

Might want to consider a noisegate when doing these. Or put them on standby during the talking parts.

@russelw.6288 Год назад

great content. Considering you can get a 6505 for around 600€ used, 1992/ iconic or just a standard made in usa 6505?

@sweezyjackson4935 3 месяца назад

Way back in like 2006 I had a chance to buy an original mint condition RG550 with the maple neck and the misty pinkish color for $175 and the guy also had an original block letter 5150 combo for $200 and I didnt have the cash for both so I took the RG550 and still wished i had the cash for both. The 5150 is a dream amp that always seems out of my financial reach.

@philfrank5601 Год назад

Difference is night and day, this wasn't a challenge. The Iconoc has so much more compression, gain, whatever, but you hear it immediately.whem compared. Great shootout!

@nathancloud6344 Год назад

Awesome content !!!!!! This is what it's about!!!!

@place_desjardins Год назад

Nice video

@licccio2133 Год назад

It's insane how much alike they sound. I even preferred the Iconic on the first part of the shootout.

@jimmiethompson3637 Год назад

Damn good video man

@worldssickestmedia2713 Год назад

Hits one note "I thought it was in tune". Nope. It's a Gibson.

@maraudermusic2714 Год назад

Diggin the Iconic! Was surprised.

@WyattScott 4 месяца назад

just got the 40 watt Iconic combo. Great amp, replaced my Blackstar MKII Club 40 combo.

@rollingstart_90s Месяц назад

The 40 watter is insanely loud, even while set on 1/4 power. Too bad the amp does not have a smooth master volume. Actually no master at all. That would help with dialing in the sound and overall volume.

@jeremydeats9406 3 месяца назад

It's all about taste, but these amps do sound very different. To me the 6505 has the mojo and frankly the history, countless bands have used it on recordings and tours, it's a legendary amp now.

@sloughboundrecordz Год назад

I was thinking of getting the 6505 1992 model.. would you recommend this one over the standard 6505? I want to get a death Metal black metal tones I’m sure it’ll do no problem..

@Z17xMachine Год назад

I had an Iconic and couldn't trust that I would get one that didn't have issues.

@bolillo5013 Год назад

Without know which one was which, I liked the Iconic better. Which is good, because I’ve been thinking about getting that as my first tube amp stack setup.

@Powermad-bu4em Год назад

Do it. Put an eq in the loop to tame the top end and you won't regret the choice.

@sexychugs69247 Год назад

Wow I guessed the same as you but the 2nd shootout I was wrong just like don you know your amps kyle!

@brownsfan7753 Год назад

This was fun!!

@jketterman6054 Год назад

Kyle, if you are putting in a EQ pedal in the loop, what settings do you have?

@emartinezr 5 месяцев назад

Geez when Don was trying to pick them apart, it was impossible. They were pretty much exactly the same.

@TheGreenTuna Год назад

I think where people are messing up is not understanding how well they can do death metal. I have the amp/cab currently with no boost or noise gate (just for ease, live I use both) and I can get the sickest tones out of it. I can emulate stuff like Dying Fetus or Decapitated with ease. Use the amp for whatever you want, but if you're limited on money and want something for extreme metal, this is the way to go.

@mattlucas4046 4 месяца назад

Please, everybody, don't judge the Iconic from all the "drama" the amp had when it came out. And, I will say, there is a certain RU-vidr that gave the amp a bad review after "playing" it at a guitar store, and told everyone "don't buy it". The guy's to listen to are Kyle, and ToneWars. If you want a FAIR & HONEST review those 2 dudes are the ones to listen to.

@rollingstart_90s Месяц назад

A lot of people do not realise how much amp technology has advanced since theoriginal 5150 days. Guitarists can often be some of the most stubborn creatures, downplaying new things that they have not even tried. The fact that this amp has hybrid technology is the thing that rubbed a lot of purists the wrong way, even tough the product wasn't even out yet. But again.... it is a tube amp + technology has gone really far. I just had a chance to test the 15 watt combo at a local store and I was absolutely stunned by how great these things sound. Does not sound like a solid state amp, beacuse it isn't one. I had the amp set on 1/4 power mode and it was LOUD. I only had the volume turned around 9 o clock. I was also surprised how GREAT the clean channel is, which was something that the old Peavey heads could never do. They were probably neve intended to do so anyway, but seeing this improvement on the Iconic is a huge bonus.

@ripley7t429 Год назад

I never have much of a problem determining what amp is which. There is something with the Iconic that sets it apart. Not that it is bad, just something that I can identify easily.

@tedmen1123 Год назад

There is a high end sizzle in there that you can hear on the iconic. Like you say, its not bad just different.

@rollingstart_90s Месяц назад

@@tedmen1123 Could it mainly be the speaker that creates that sizzle? Could a Greenback speaker make it a bit softer/smoother? The original 5150 amp from the early 90's was created for Eddie with the Greenbacks in mind, which is what Eddie used. I don't know... I'm just guessing Greenback or Creamback would be the answer?

@Cheesusaurusrex Год назад

Im not in the market for a 5150 thesedays, but if the iconic is good enough for the guy from the black dahlia murder, then its good enough for me.

@TobyKBTY Год назад

I owned an Iconic that I actually super loved. It just turned out to be a lemon, and eventually got a refund for it so I bought a Peavey 5150 lmao but honestly the Iconic more than holds a candle to my OG 5150. Great amp, I just hope the QC issue on mine was an isolated case because I would own one again if I ended up 5150-less

@profanepropane Год назад

Just a question but what does a lemon mean? Is it just a bad apple or is it a term for when something is vastly different in quality than the other copies?

@TobyKBTY Год назад

@@profanepropane oh well i guess bad apple is more appropriate lol. It had internal issues and would lose low end and just sound randomly. Had the option to return it since it fell under warranty and chose to do so.

@profanepropane Год назад

@@TobyKBTY ahh I see

@kilsoo Год назад

i bought an iconic 80w head about 2 months ago as a stay home amp. it has been fantastic paired with an old 1960av and a charvel.. all the usual suspects!

@rollingstart_90s Месяц назад

Isn't that an insanely loud amplifier for home use? Separate atenuator, maybe?

@JasonSmith-wj2ht 9 месяцев назад

#2 sounds more scooped & more compressed. #1 has more sizzle.

@partriotsfight5039 Год назад

I had an original 5150 Block letter they had to change back in 1995 or 96. I sold it and it’s the one I let get away. I wish I had never sold that one

@Leo_Fender 5 месяцев назад

“This was his idea, not mine”

@aalidas8951 4 месяца назад

Why not have a regular 'ol 6505 in the mix too??

@ronvest1968 Год назад

Kyle, can you find out what preamp and power amp tubes are being shipped with the New 6505? Thanks for the content. Awesome stuff!

@belligerentamateur Год назад

@joegoliver3 Год назад

Kyle look at that imposter above you on every comment.

@yeti1002 Год назад

@@joegoliver3 the imposter is pretty common on Kyles channel . By Reporting the imposter , you can delete him .

@AtomicMeatballGuitar Год назад

I think they're 12AX7 preamp tubes and 6L6GC power amp tubes

@ronvest1968 Год назад

@@AtomicMeatballGuitarI was curious as to what brand of tubes. Kyle answered with JJ tubes. Thank you, though.

@iwiggs6870 Год назад

Honestly, in a mix,. if you can tell the difference between any 5150, you're either guessing or bullshitting.

@TheLounabomber Год назад

The iconic is a sick amp for sure

@s.w.matteo6679 Год назад

Nice job dialing those tones in Kyle.

@svogender Год назад

On this clip I liked the 6505 best..!! 👍

@Ottophil Год назад

I just prefer peavey as a brand.

@mooferoo Год назад

5150 Iconic, but a Les Paul going out of tune is pretty iconic as well.

@TheCyberMantis Год назад

The 6505 needs an overdrive in front of it. Pick your favorite one, they all do the job.

@DavidMadeira29 Год назад

Some other people is counter phasing the B string because of C notes?! I don't know. Namastè.

@jeffc1753 Год назад

Don Carr is a class act and awesome guitar player. Great to see him on your channel, Kyle!

@j-rod166 Год назад

Engl Fireball 100 for the win!!

@johncoker13 11 месяцев назад

I'm finally looking to drop some serious money on an amp after playing since the 80's and everyone is saying how affordable this is... I just can't catch up no matter what SMH

@ThePermanentCase Год назад

Never thought I’d see a video of Kyle Bull playing a boomer riff, yet here we are.

@Scotty_AV 11 месяцев назад

If youre watching this wondering what to get, just get a 6505+ with the 2 EQ channels. Its incredible

@Rforce78 Год назад

Have you ever tried a bad cat amp

@boxfan6656 Год назад

Phil pounding the door because he didn't do it first?

@michaelbarber590 Год назад

Crazy that the Iconic sounds so much clearer and more dynamic. 6505 sounds a bit muffled and flubby in comparison.

@rollingstart_90s Месяц назад

Yes. Over 30 years has passed since the 6505 first came out. Amplifier technology has advanced immensely since the old days. Brown worked magic on the Iconic series.

@guitarguts666 Год назад

Shame they don't sell the Bad Cat Lynx

@manicmurph 3 дня назад

Shit I thought the first comparison was the Iconic. Did they say if they're using boosters or not? To me they both sound extremely similar. I played one at guitar center and I thought my EVH 6L6 50 watt sounded better. Not saying that it sounds bad but it's just not for me. Maybe if they put a booster pedal in the front it would sound not as thin sounding.

@TheSweezer Год назад

SO whichever one yall dont want feel free to send it to me

@dalejacksonmo 7 месяцев назад

I've been listening for over a year all reviews on both of these amps from all demos available I think...Peavey sounds best...original sounds and tones and all tube and 120 watts