6 DEVS Make a Game without COMMUNICATING! (2024 Edition) 

i liked the when the join it got loude the when the loud longer and so it go and lets play a one fun it was too

I rate you guys ask a subscriber to make a game and get a team of devs to make a subscribers dream game😮

Where do you find Lithuanian developers? :D Thanks for promoting the craft of individuals that share homeland with me

Hey, How about "6 developers make a horror game without communicating"

How about: Female Devs make girly games and pass onto Male Devs Or Vice Versa

haha 😅cheers - it sure felt like it while working on my main steam game in parallel

@@datablob I actually just played your demo. It was awesome. Well done in the video too

Medieval Crazy Taxi! 🐉🚕😂

It was a great looking game

The last few “small” polish steps actually take a lot of time and effort too

yes the last project got completly ruined.

@@dogebro1 I am missing context. Can you detail what happened? Edit: Tanks for the elaboration.

@@backstabba I think they are talking about wishbone replacing a nice 8bit hand with a low poly one, no one liked it.

​@@backstabba Check the last pass the game challenge video

​@@backstabbablackthornprod turned a fun idea into something totally different.

thanks

This should honestly be the norm. EDIT: Not as a hard and fast rule, but as a mindset going into it. Dev 1: gameplay loop Dev 2: Iteration/art Dev 3: Iteratipn/polish Dev 4: Art/polish Etc. I feel like your place in the lineup should affect what you focus on most of the time. But usually thay doesnt end up happening in these, makign disjointed games sometimes

@@WalkerFrankeArtwould kind of limit creativity and railroad people into certain decisions

@@XrayTheMyth23 Yeah for sure, I should have phrased it better. I was more thinking, not as a hard and fast rule, but as a sort of mindset of going into the program. If I was #4, for example, my goals should be completely different than #1. In one of the more recent episodes, a true gameplay loop was not established early, so the game kept changing.

I apologise in advance for my toxicity but I'm more frustrated every time I watch. What a wonderful fuckup! Turning a creative original quirky challenging-to-learn game into a smooth easy boring rehashed 3D pacman/NFS which no one will ever actually play or learn to overcome. And you inevitably have someone in there who does nothing for the game but overturn everyone else's visuals to his own preferred style. To make this type of dev challenge make sense each dev should be able to peg 2 things that cannot change - like the first dev could have pegged the controls and the cart. Yes the cart is difficult but it adds to the creativity and challenge.

fr (the low poly hand hahaha)

​@@etetgg1364 best example fr

The low poly hand, tower defense, and the centipede 😂

Forgot about removing the movement and then saying it gets boring very quickly 😂😂

@@jabroni6175removing all movement mechanics that was the whole purpose pf they game 😭🙏

The dev that made that joke was the dev that created those hands originally 😆

@@icslush It was also referenced in the intro XD

Next game, they will make a Rogue-Like where the bosses are all those memes

I hope so he did a goof but he can always change it around

Low poly hands looked better

That's how it should be. Making a core loop is 10% of the finished product even though it feels like it's 90%

@@halfbakedc00kie Don't you mean it's 90% of the product even though it feels like it's 10%?

@@halfbakedc00kie yeah ofc, just tryna be funny. and i still do despite it obviously going to be the case

@@Selrisitai in terms of developing the loop is more likely to be 10% of the product. (i'm new to programming though, but based on my experience so far it seems that way). gameplay wise it's a huge part though

@@noerazz7515 Your right, something called the 80/20 effect. First 80% is easy, last 20% is the hardest. That's why all game companies have the dreaded "crunch" before a game release because they basically find all the stuff that's broken just before.

it ruined the entire point of the game tho and made it too easy

​@@Gobbygoblin Exactly. It got turned into Crazy Taxi with a fantasy flavor until the last dev just made it into Pac Man with dragons. Despite struggling at first the second dev seemed to have mastered the controls after 30 min of practice so it seems the third guy just couldn't be bothered learning the how to play the game and whacked in boring standardized controls instead. On a similar note the last dev removing the unique police UI also kind of annoyed me. U guys don't have to copy "standard" elements from big games. A game's uniqueness can lend to its charm and fun

@@tuna5305Yeah the third guy shitified it

@@TvTToasted I think he did redeem himself with the unique wanted system although that eventually got f*ked too.

@@tuna5305 That was number 2 I think

Agree, the rickshaw physics are super fiddly but it was fun to drive it over little wobbles and send it :D

I would have tried adding an invisible marble to act as the central move agent and then had the cart jointed to that and then made the dragon jointed as well but more of a visualization (moving left and right but does nothing). The ball does all the moving and the cart just flaps around in tow. I was disappointed to see the cart go as well but I agree that it either works fast or gets cut fast.

This could even extend to gameplay. There could maybe be an intentional movement that can fling passengers from the rickshaw to their destination, either netting you more points for success or taking away points for failure. High risk, high reward.

@@gamma_centauri that was exactly the initial vision I had, hehe 👍

​@datablob The rickshaw idea was inspired bro, so gutted it got cut as early, it had great much potential for chaos lol. Honestly rather play a whacky half baked jank of a game than an uninspired over-cooked and over-polished simulation

Yeah seriously, I love how people worked with my foundation & seemed to immediately get what it was I was going for (though I was inspired by Crazy Taxi, the GTA elements were a perfect fit)

agreed the establishing of a good foundation by @datablob gave the direction missing in most of these challnges which usually makes too much time wasted of deleting good content

Imo the initial movement control made it really unique but changing it to a normal WASD movement made it too easy and less fun

i would argue the super hero city defense one was better. But this one is not bad too

He's beyond redemption

​@@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_u too

he literally called other devs work dogshit and proceeded to kill a 100 dev challenge with literal dogshit changes.

@@timm2396 the chances of him actually meaning that is very low lol, he is a content creator, I don't think a low-poly hand should be the deciding factor for him as a whole even if it was a bad idea, he has been good in every other one of these

@@timm2396sarcasm? Do you know it?

lmao thx I'll take it 🙏

​@@datablobhow do you only have 150 subs, imma sun rn

But wait... Theres more!

Dude your game's art looks so cool!! @@datablob

​@@Krii_shnadon't go supernova

Y'know, after that asteroid clone turned space shooter game video. Only few if not none of the videos since hit it off. Maybe this is the 'challenge' part of the video, showing off the vital reason why communication is needed. Because at this point, the video feels like a drug. I'm trying to use it over and over again just to feel that first time, but it won't happen, because nothing could beat your first time experiencing it.

Yeah, you could say that again

Said it perfectly, I keep watching these vids hoping they will hit the same as the first ones, never does..@@anton.s6882

@@anton.s6882honestly was thinking the same thing! I think these videos are lacking personality too, a lot of devs are dull which makes it hard to watch sometimes

@@jaketylersimon The Devs personality doesn't really bother that much. Usually because making these games takes priority rather than presenting yourself making the game. That requires balancing between their part of the work and their persona, juggling both is already a game in itself. Regardless of that, it does make me want to continue watching what the next No Communication challenge would be like. A banger or a failure, time will tell

At this point I'm going to the comments section first to see if it was infuriating or not, so thanks for leaving this one!

Feels like a fuckin job am I right

I dunno about that, Ignas completely changed the game by removing two core concepts

I agree

did i miss something? whats the poly hands meme?

Dual wielded is my favorite then it's wishbone

@@adam7280he replaced a hand which matched the style of the rest of the game with a 3D one which stuck out like a sore thumb.

@@eggegg6448 100% I always want Dual wielded in like every video 😂

Thank you for the awesome models and animations! I feel they added a ton of life to this ❤

It’s crazy how your assets have been used two videos in a row

He's one of my faves and one of the best ones. I know he made an error on one of them with the artwork but he is really good overall.

Damn right they did hahaha, sorry about that….

Awww thank you :)@@CymbalMonkey

I enjoyed your part as well 😊​@@Wishbone_Games

​​@@Wishbone_Games you were my favorite dev in this one. You actually seemed like you enjoyed it and didn't take it too seriously

The cart was obviously a glitchy mess. A physics based game requires reliable physics.

​@@P3dotmeI don't think he's talking about the cart, but the controls of the game, the third dev changed from controlling the left and right wings which made it harder, to controlling the dragon itself, making it more easy and little more generic

I feel like a lot of the uniqueness came from the cart and the awkward controls, when you remove them, it loses a lot of its potential charm. Qwop would be a boring game if you just held W to go forward

i think it was a good change! the more accessible controls allowed for more fast paced gameplay. yeah, the other devs could have made something that works well with the tank controls and it probably would have been quite cool, but they only have a day! not exactly feasible imo

​@@P3dotme This. It wasn't readily apparent in how they edited their videos, but the rickshaw - while it would have been a fun physics-based mechanic differentiating it from a childhood of crazy taxi - seemed to be very broken and the movement overall too difficult. That said, I do think this kind of challenge should have them respect the attempt to not just use a standard "WSAD" movement system, and instead tried to at least keep that odd "control wing" one, maybe fixing it if it had any issues we didn't see. ps: as for the rickshaw, I feel like it is a shame they put too much focus on trying to get a controller for it, when a more physics-based approach would have solved it easily: Connect with a spring like they did, but only have it apply forces to the rickshaw, not the player (or at least lower such 'reactionary' forces greatly, so you don't feel flung around by it unless more extreme situations happens than a slight turn or bump). Then, instead of trying to apply any forces to keep it on the ground or angle correctly behind dragon, just *_add a "drag" force to its end._* This would naturally slow it from flying around the dragon too much, and instead keep it behind the dragon unless you brake strongly. And overall make sure it faces right way. (another way to do it would be to have the rear repelled by the dragon, while the front slightly attracted (the spring likely being enough for that). Then maybe have a force discouraging it from not being right-side-up too (unless you want that to happen a lot), maybe through applying rotational forces to approach roll 0 (ie. pid controlled), or simply strong forces away from roll -180 (that quickly falls off as it is less upsidedown; this would make it able to easily wobble a lot, and even drive on a single wheel, but bounce back if it tries flipping over). There's a lot of other ways to go about things, but my point is that they shouldn't have bothered too much trying to get the rickshaw to be controlled, and instead embraced some of the chaotic nature of having it be a physics-body.

If you recall, there's a new rule in place for these projects. I think they called it the "don't delete" rule where you can't delete what previous devs have done, only expand upon or clean it up.

​@@rjgraylightWell that rule doesn't seem to be in effect here lmao

​@@rjgraylight A good rule, if they every starts to follow it...

​@@indecisiveponderer643 I mean I think the rule can't be taken literally, if you couldn't delete buggy code or placeholder assets you'd the process would be impossible. But I don't think any dev really removed anything major here (except the rickshaw) rather than just add or refine ideas.

@@chrisdonnell7200 I didnt see it, but i think the rickshaw even just got turned into a game prop, the game made its own development easter egg 💀

Beside the rickshaw that is...

@@n30b14d3tank steering too

They removed the movement, which is a core element

No way

Last time he did everyone hated it- dev 4

Well I hope you'll enjoy my Steam game (Black Dragon Mage, demo just dropped) just as much then :D

Great work with the "Yes and..." style on this one. I loved your additions.

Limit it to like 5 words. Gotta make it chaotic somehow.

​@@MIAZS846 forward communication only can be chaotic in itself, like a game of developer telephone

"No no communication challenge"

Thank you

haha thank you

so true, i was listening on speaker but switched to headphones a few seconds into his part 😂

clever!

Yeah

Let's see 😂

Well the rickshaw got younger but maybe it was for the better

he'll always be a pos that called other devs work dogshit and then pissed on a 100 dev challenge with literal dogshit changes.

Lmao, I was confused about this comment until I got to his part

I think changing it to vertical would've made sense, as in W/S rather than W/E... but yeah. Tank controls could've been fun.

most of the comments are saying it was an unfortunate, but necessary change

Uh except Vitaliy

@@SmnNull he did well just he didnt add as much

calling other devs work dogshit and then ruining a good game from a 100 dev challenge with dogshit changes isnt redeemable.

thanks

@@datablob Urw, mate, good job 🤝

Vitali’s editing skills on top of

thanks frazomania, glad you also like Black Dragon Mage - coming out in late March btw! Will be at NextFest Feb 5th too. Demo is out now.

@@datablob 100% playing!!

will be buying once it drops@@datablob

LOL Graveyard Gunslinger and Canadian Gunslinger do sound similar