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6. Franks, Brits, and Pope Gregory 

Bruce Gore
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With the collapse of the Roman Empire, the domains of the former power fell into a patchwork of decentralized regions, with the Church serving as the only unifying influence. Within a few decades, however, a new political power arose in Gaul led by Clovis, the man who united the Franks and took control of most of the region that would eventually become France. About the same time, Pope Gregory sent the missionary monk Augustine to preach to the Angles and Saxons who had taken control of a major part of Britain. For more free resources, please visit www.brucegore.com.

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@joeiiiful
@joeiiiful 4 года назад
I learned Church History during Seminary, read extensively, taught my children every Lord's day, but you teach Church History in a manner that is compelling, super interesting and enthusiastically. My sincerest appreciation for your outstanding teaching. Additionally I am going through your Series on the Acts of the Apostles and find the same level of exceptional teaching. Thank you very much.
@brucegore4373
@brucegore4373 4 года назад
You are very kind, sir. Thanks for that.
@zondervangreek
@zondervangreek 5 лет назад
Another good start to a morning as I am reviewing, relearning, and learning church history.
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 5 лет назад
Always a pleasure to have you along!
@scott6828
@scott6828 3 года назад
This man is an amazing. If anyone has ever had to give a PowerPoint presentation knows... this guy is making it look easy.
@richardstokes3642
@richardstokes3642 4 года назад
Pastor Bruce. I forgot to mention that your classes have helped me in the class that I teach in our Baptist Bible College here in California (Spanish speaking college).
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 4 года назад
I am delighted to hear it! Thank you!
@mattverville9227
@mattverville9227 3 года назад
I love how you mix the historical information with the gospel in your videos. You do a great job. You never know who might be listening. Thank you
@pascalansellful
@pascalansellful 5 лет назад
What a hero, Bruce Gore! Thanks for posting :-)
@baalzebuth8431
@baalzebuth8431 5 лет назад
In a dark place we find ourselves, and a little more knowledge lights our way.
@imtiazali3282
@imtiazali3282 4 года назад
Sir l am a student of history, l have read many books on ancient history but the way you have explained every turn of history is simply marvelous. Thanks a lot.
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 4 года назад
I appreciate you kind feedback. Thank you!
@kinawinkelstrahle2431
@kinawinkelstrahle2431 2 года назад
Absolutely amazing. Thank you Bruce so much. You keep saving my Sunday afternoons. 🥰❤
@KaptainKuba
@KaptainKuba 6 лет назад
Im really enjoying these classes
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 6 лет назад
Thanks! ...nice to have you along for the ride!
@LeslieGStormwarden
@LeslieGStormwarden 3 года назад
I appreciate you brother. I have been a life-long lover of history & (more importantly) of the Lord Jesus Christ. I have tried to educate myself on history but I have lacked the means to delve as deeply as I would like to do. You are covering many things in this series that are filling in blanks for me & I greatly appreciate that. May you be blessed in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ for following His commission of you in sharing these much-needed insights with His people. Thank you for feeding the sheep faithfully.
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 3 года назад
I appreciate that very much. Thank you!
@tikunolam7
@tikunolam7 3 года назад
Your lectures help me build content for my Sunday school lessons (we went from gen-rev- now in church history). Thankyou. I just gifted "historical context of the Bible" as a birthday gift to a friend last week.
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 3 года назад
Thank you!
@titus2granny78
@titus2granny78 2 года назад
So helpfull!
@pascalgibeault7419
@pascalgibeault7419 5 лет назад
Love the content, thank you!
@fooledman
@fooledman 2 месяца назад
Until now I had no idea that Humpty Dumpty had to do with Rome, I had always heard that it was in reference to a single very famous ruler.
@TM-qc7kd
@TM-qc7kd Год назад
Nice series of lectures, much appreciated. Excellent presentations. I don't quite agree with your take on eschatology though ,in other lecture series God bless you.
@thubtumbing4
@thubtumbing4 2 года назад
Hello Sir. One remark: the name of hungary is derived from one of the names for the Magyar people that invaded "hungary" in the 9th/10th century: the Ungroi/Ungri/Ungarians. The "H" in front might have been a later addition to make some anachronistic connection to the Huns. Cheers from Belgium!
@thubtumbing4
@thubtumbing4 2 года назад
Oh and the merovingians aren't named after Clovis' dad, but his granddad :)
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 2 года назад
Thank you!
@gilgalbiblewheel6313
@gilgalbiblewheel6313 6 лет назад
The Midianites in Judges 7 were also battling among themselves.
@tc2851
@tc2851 4 года назад
Wonderful series, thank you. I’m intrigued by the stories around the introduction of Christianity to Ireland and the present day UK. Saint Patrick (there may be more than one) was very well covered in a previous presentation. St Patrick born in 385 enslaved in Ireland then escaped and later educated in France died 465? after returning and spreading the Great News in Ireland, he was amongst many of a list of early Irish saints such as St Kevin of Glendalough b. 498 d.618! Pope Gregory sent Augustine to England around 600 to spread the Word there to the Angels/Saxons. However some years before that the Irish Saints eg Columba b 543 was in Scotland and northern England and Columbanus in the same area and the Frankish kingdoms were highly influential. This suggests that the south of England was largely pagan? I wonder about that because it was practically surrounded by Christian influences. Unless the Saxons were purely pagan and displaced the native population who were at least heavily influenced Christianity? Dia Duit!
@evettebrummell1836
@evettebrummell1836 3 года назад
Could you please help me here who is the anglo saxon are they romans and who is the bilderberg are they roman abd who is the zionist jews are they roman
@gapfenix
@gapfenix 6 лет назад
What "number" of pope was Gregory since the council of Nicea?
@sivananthanthesiah9677
@sivananthanthesiah9677 10 месяцев назад
I really love it. I really want to contact him, to study church history (can anyone help please)
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 10 месяцев назад
Contact me at: bruce@brucegore.com.
@kayrichardson4315
@kayrichardson4315 7 лет назад
Why no mention of Bertha, Queen of Kent, who was a Christian? Bertha's presence (along with her priestly retinue) made Augustine of Canterbury's conversion of England much easier.
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 7 лет назад
Kay Richardson So many stories, so little time.
@annagaiser5186
@annagaiser5186 7 лет назад
Yeah, no time to mention Gaiseric, King of the Vandals. Not such an important person in history, but explains why at least one of your Greek students continues to be a thorn in your flesh. ;) --Anna
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 7 лет назад
You just keep popping up! Blessings my dear!
@winestuff7207
@winestuff7207 7 лет назад
Bruce, Love the lectures. Very informative. just a tip though, hopefully helpful and not critical. The Vandals were Germanic and started in the North. They migrated through Spain to set up a kingdom in North Africa.
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 7 лет назад
I always appreciate clarifying feedback. Thank you!
@winestuff7207
@winestuff7207 7 лет назад
Bruce Gore Given the scope of history you cover, it is amazing how accurate you are. Thank you for the lecture series, I have been looking for something like this for a long time.
@scottleft3672
@scottleft3672 7 лет назад
They (the vandals)were a big mix many ex roman legion goths from north africa and with many a phonecian like hanibals decendants.....i used to think of them as rome v and al others.
@richardstokes3642
@richardstokes3642 4 года назад
Hi Pastor Bruce. Is it safe to say that Gregory was the first "pope" as such? Does history see him that way? Or is it Leo?
@fotisvon9943
@fotisvon9943 3 года назад
only the sign of jonah
@MakoProductions321
@MakoProductions321 2 года назад
So Gregory liked puns
@nancyhanna8330
@nancyhanna8330 5 лет назад
Is not clear to me when the separation between the two big churches (Catholic and orthodox)took place ?
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 5 лет назад
The split took place officially in 1054 a.d.
@howardv5139
@howardv5139 8 лет назад
this pope Gregory, is he the same guy our calendar is name after, the Gregorian calendar?
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 8 лет назад
Different Pope. The Gregorian Calendar was introduced by Pope Gregory XIII, by which he hoped to change the date of Easter. Up until then, Europe adhered to the Julian calendar, first implemented by Julius Caesar in 46 B.C. Gregory XIII lived in the late 16th century.
@howardv5139
@howardv5139 8 лет назад
got it, thank you Bruce.
@nadzach
@nadzach Год назад
I confess my ignorance, but I have this sincere question. When did the church first decide that the Holy traditions were bound to the holy scriptures (Roman Catholic Catechism?) I'm wondering how this relates to the years of darkness. It seems like this would have angered God--the very same problem as Israel in the days of our Lord. Mingling tradition with faith spoils faith. Like milk and meat both are good, but cannot/ought not be preserved together. Could this be the sin that caused the earth to groan to a breaking point?
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce Год назад
The dual source teaching of the Roman church grew gradually at the beginning of the medieval period. It flowed partly from the huge credibility of the church and its generally positive impact and ministry in Europe after the fall of Rome. The term 'dark ages' is misleading, as the church had a very salutary influence, but gradually became politicized as it increased in power. The doctrine of dual source was affirmed officially and unequivocally at the Council of Trent (16th century) but was the working understanding at a much earlier time. This was what prompted Luther's well-known affirmation of 'sola scriptura.'
@georgspengler3573
@georgspengler3573 6 лет назад
Augustin was not sent to hostile savage evil pagan Angles, he was invited to go there by a tolerant and generous pagan king of Kent.
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 6 лет назад
Thanks for the perspective. A competent and scholarly review of this fascinating incident may be found in Kenneth Scott Latourette's 'A History of Christianity,' Volume 1, p. 347f (and sources cited therein).
@Johnnycdrums
@Johnnycdrums 8 лет назад
I like the lecture, however it seems you are allergic to the word Catholic. At what point do you acknowledge Catholicism, 1517, with Martin Luther?
@scottleft3672
@scottleft3672 7 лет назад
non catholics never get it.
@clpwhitechapel3713
@clpwhitechapel3713 6 лет назад
Even after you finally managed to utter the dreaded word 'pope', you went on to imply that Gregory did not quite see himself as such; he only thought he was 'bishop of Rome', apparently. Much as I admire your work and greatly appreciate your lectures, I wish you freed yourself from you seething anti-catholicism, which surfaces again and again.
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 6 лет назад
Yes, my very close Catholic friends, with whom I share frequent fellowship, tell me the same thing. ...but I am, after all, a Presbyterian! Thanks for the feedback.
@clpwhitechapel3713
@clpwhitechapel3713 6 лет назад
Thank you for your reply. May I suggest that you ask one of your very close Catholic friends to reassure you that nowadays it is not possible to buy indulgences in our Church, contrary to what you said in another lecture. In fact I very much doubt that it was ever possible, even at the time of Luther.
@GoreBruce
@GoreBruce 6 лет назад
The sale of indulgences under Leo X was condemned both by Trent and then more recently by Bl. Pope Paul VI. Here’s a short overview with the relevant text from Trent and citation to Paul VI’s teaching: www.catholic.com/qa/does-the-catholic-church-still-sell-indulgences As to the present availability of indulgences under the Catholic view, please see: www.ewtn.com/devotionals/mercy/general_conditions.htm Thanks again for your cordial interest.
@clpwhitechapel3713
@clpwhitechapel3713 6 лет назад
Thank you very much; perfect. I did not mean to deny that abuses had happened. I surmised that it was never Catholic doctrine, not even at the time of Luther, that indulgences could be purchased.
@keithmayhewhammond5357
@keithmayhewhammond5357 5 лет назад
Giorgio Franc: Any protestant is going to be slightly anti-Catholic at the very least. But I have found Bruce's lecture to be actually quite respectful for the most part. He is not making personal attacks like some preachers. He also has complimented St. Charlemagne, Constantine, and St. Patrick - which many modern protestants and even some Catholics have trouble doing. I like the fact that he looks at history with the knowledge that we cannot judge them by modern day standards - but from their perspective.
@lostsheepofjesus2136
@lostsheepofjesus2136 3 года назад
You need to know, you are completely incorrect to say Pope St. Gregory denied there is a sole authority (Your claim is at 36:00 - 37:30). 1st I will show you the quotes where Gregory affirms papal supremacy and then the quote you took out of context. ====== 1. There are numerous places Pope Gregory affirmed papal supremacy for example: “For as to what they say about the Church of Constantinople, who can doubt that it is subject to the Apostolic See, as both the most pious lord the emperor and our brother the bishop of that city continually acknowledge?” (Epistles of Gregory the Great, Book IX Letter 12). “I, albeit unworthy, have been set up in command of the Church.” (Epistles of Gregory the Great, Book V Letter 44). “Inasmuch as it is manifest that the Apostolic See is, by the ordering of God, set over all Churches…” (Epistles of Gregory the Great, Book III Letter 30). Note the 1st quote here in particular, Pope Gregory states that the bishop of Constantinople is subject to the Apostolic See ====== 2. The quote you took out of context “I say it without the least hesitation, whoever calls himself the universal bishop, or desires this title, is, by his pride, the precursor of Antichrist, because he thus attempts to raise himself above the others.” Pope St. Gregory the Great in his official correspondence. Pope St. Gregory was condemning that there is a 'universal bishop', as that would make void the role of other Bishops. John the Faster, the patriarch of Constantinople, proclaimed himself Universal Bishop at the Synod of Constantinople in 588. Here is a quote from the “orthodox” author Oliver Clement: “Gregory protested against the title of “ecumenical patriarch,” which the patriarchs of Constantinople had just taken on (in order to affirm their primacy in the context of the “ecumenical” empire). No bishop, declared Gregory, can call himself universal without rendering void the ministry of other bishops. He attached extreme importance to his title of servus servorum dei, “servant of the servants of God.” (Oliver Clement, You Are Peter, pg. 31). So even an “orthodox” author admits that Pope Gregory was only condemning the title “universal bishop” if by that title you render void the ministry of other bishops. Also, even though they are modernist heretics, This Rock magazine explains it well in the following quote: “He [Pope Gregory] would have denied that the title "universal bishop" could be applied to anyone, himself included, if by that term one meant there was only one bishop for the whole world and that all other "bishops" were bishops in name only, with no real authority of their own. Such a distorted version of the biblical model of bishops is incompatible with Catholic teaching.” (This Rock Magazine, December 1992).
@dominicmoorhouse5143
@dominicmoorhouse5143 3 месяца назад
Great presentation as ever. Bruce doesn't seem to have connected the 10 tribes invading the (iron legged) Roman Empire, with the ten 'iron and clay' toes of Daniel Chapter 2: the Vatican Antichrist final Empire of King Nebukaddnessar's dream statue, dating from 538AD, that remains to this day, before Jesus the Rock destroys the whole edifice. It's noteworthy that three of the 10 tribes didn't survive the ascendancy of the Beast (papacy) or 'little horn power' of Daniel 7:8 & 20, which 3 tribes, the Vandals, Ostrogoths and Heruli were 'Arian' Christians, which rather suggests that Arian Christianity has merit, since the Vatican Antichrist sought to destroy them... The final 'proof' is Satan, through the Nazi's, discrediting Arianism by association - no coincidence... whereas all they were trying to do is clarify the character of God, which biblically makes sense.
@dominicmoorhouse5143
@dominicmoorhouse5143 3 месяца назад
Evidence for the three Arian tribes is scant deliberately because the Vatican Antichrist has destroyed it...
@dominicmoorhouse5143
@dominicmoorhouse5143 3 месяца назад
It should be noted that Apostolic Christian were in Britain 4 centuries before the Vatican Antichrist, as detailed in the Great Controversy: "No church within the limits of Romish jurisdiction was long left undisturbed in the enjoyment of freedom of conscience. No sooner had the papacy obtained power than she stretched out her arms to crush all that refused to acknowledge her sway; and one after another, the churches submitted to her dominion. In Great Britain, primitive Christianity had very early taken root. The gospel received by the Britons in the first centuries, was then uncorrupted by Romish apostasy. Persecution from pagan emperors, which extended even to these far-off shores, was the only gift that the first churches of Britain received from Rome. Many of the Christians, fleeing from persecution in England, found refuge in Scotland; thence the truth was carried to Ireland, and in all these countries it was received with gladness. When the Saxons invaded Britain, heathenism gained control. The conquerors disdained to be instructed by their slaves, and the Christians were forced to retreat to the mountains and the wild moors. Yet the light, hidden for a time, continued to burn. In Scotland, a century later, it shone out with a brightness that extended to far-distant lands. From Ireland came the pious Columba and his co-laborers, who, gathering about them the scattered believers on the lonely island of Iona, made this the centre of their missionary labours. Among these evangelists was an observer of the Bible Sabbath, and thus this truth was introduced among the people. A school was established at Iona, from which missionaries went out, not only to Scotland and England, but to Germany, Switzerland, and even Italy. But Rome had fixed her eyes on Britain, and resolved to bring it under her supremacy. In the sixth century her missionaries undertook the conversion of the heathen Saxons. They were received with favour by the proud barbarians, and they induced many thousands to profess the Romish faith. As the work progressed, the papal leaders and their converts encountered the primitive Christians. A striking contrast was presented. The latter were simple, humble, and scriptural in character, doctrine, and manners, while the former manifested the superstition, pomp, and arrogance of popery. The emissary of Rome demanded that these Christian churches acknowledge the supremacy of the sovereign pontiff. The Britons meekly replied that they desired to love all men, but that the pope was not entitled to supremacy in the church, and they could render to him only that submission which was due to every follower of Christ. Repeated attempts were made to secure their allegiance to Rome; but these humble Christians, amazed at the pride displayed by her emissaries, steadfastly replied that they knew no other master than Christ. Now the true spirit of the papacy was revealed. Said the Romish leader, “If you will not receive brethren who bring you peace, you shall receive enemies who will bring you war. If you will not unite with us in showing the Saxons the way of life, you shall receive from them the stroke of death.” These were no idle threats. War, intrigue, and deception were employed against these witnesses for a Bible faith, until the churches of Britain were destroyed, or forced to submit to the authority of the pope..." archive.org/details/sda-ellen-g-white-the-great-controversy-1888/page/1/mode/1up
@sionnach.1374
@sionnach.1374 9 месяцев назад
It's going to happen in the US Just replace barbarian with Mexican
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