6 Reasons to Buy a 2023 Toyota GR86 (What’s New?) 

Your reviews are a marked cut above, should have millions of views as the information you provide is stellar.

Fun fact: The new wrx is not faster that the gr86/brz from a roll. It’s actually not far off the previous gen sti which is pretty crazy when you think about it… it is a balanced and very rewarding naturally aspirated engine.

What a beautiful looking car, this dark grey really brings out its features.

My 2022 86 Neptune blue was totaled in May. Lady ran a stop sign at about 40 and clipped my driver side. Just got done ordering my 2023 86 Turino blue AT. Arrives soon

You really do great reviews I love all the technical details when you get into the weeds that is stuff that most other reviewers do not do keep up the good work and keep at it. Subscribed

Loved the video man! I live in Indianapolis and am stoked to find a great reviewer so close to me! Kinda cool. I'm very interested in this car and appreciate your review on it!

SOOO EXCITED!!! Just purchased a 2023 86 Premium Toyota Red manual!!! Comes in next week!!! Manuals are sold before they even show up at the dealer but not today!!!! I FINALLY got one!!!😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️. Wish you could add pics on here. Mad I didn’t get to test drive it but OMG can’t wait to see it! Not even 3 miles on it (they said). Traded in my 2015 Blue FR-S…hate to see her go but love to see her replaced!! 😂😂😂❤️❤️❤️🙋🏾‍♀️🙋🏾‍♀️🙋🏾‍♀️

I'm getting 30 mpg in my manual gr86.

Great vid!

I have a 1st gen .BRZ and I never heard of the fuel pumps failing.

Have to admit, until I watched this video this Pavement color wasn't even on my radar. I'm on a list for a Premium with the manual. I told them I'd take Neptune Blue, Trueno Blue, or the stupidly named Track bRed (orange-ish red). I love the silver on the BRZ, but not so much on the GR86 with its black wheels and mirrors. Now, though, hmmm, seeing this car in the Pavement color in a video and not just in Toyota's awful animated pictures, I may have to add this to my list of acceptable options. It really looks great here.

Got a brz because all the Toyota dealers wanted insane markups (some up to $10k) above msrp whereas Subaru didn’t have any markup. Both great cars and fun to drive - definitely have to go with a MT - automatic is sacrileg

Tires make noise, even on the 18inch?

People that don't know how to use roundabouts.... that's a good one. Always looking to add variety to my usual BMW driver bashing.

You have a great build man! Looking good

Hi Tyler...thanks for the video. How ido you think the GR86 is for taller drivers?

A guy at the Toyota dealership, whom I told I wanted a manual, told me that they had a 10th anniversary. I asked if it was a manual and he said, "No..." Sales people: What can I do to put you in this car you didn't ask for?

I’m getting 46 MPG IN MY MAZDA MX5 ND2 ❤ , no engine problems ❤️

What car is that 1:03? It has a subie badge but it looks like a toyota....

great review! any real differences from 2022?

Got 28.8 MPG in my first month with this car. Definitely better than my Jeep Cherokee with 19 MPG. Don't know how it consumes more than a Tundra.

Beautiful car

I get 27+ mpg around town and 32mpg on the highway in my manual 86.

Check reviews about oil starvation problems with the gr86. Some type of silicone in the oil due heat. The subaru boxer engine needs a recall!

which one would you buy if you were give a choice. A Mini Cooper JCW Automatic or Toyota Gr86 Automatic???

I want one but can't find one anywhere - unless I want to pay MSRP + $10K (which I don't).

I purchased the same build in manual. Currently in transit. Should have it in about 3 weeks

Trying to see if I will fit. Any chance you can share your height and inseam?

I got the orange Special Edition on order. No delivery date available. Still on the FR-S

Should make it a two-seater sport car

How is the road noise I’m thinking of getting one

And how long ago was this RTV issue on this motor ??? And how or why don't we know if its been fixed ??

I ordered gr86 last april and I still dont have a delivery date🤣 Apparently the dealer around me is only getting 2 cars for all of 2023 so imma be waiting a while. Im so excited though, right now I drive a car with coilovers and a muffler delete so the gr86 is gonna feel like an s class to me

I’m pretty intimidated by the idea of learning manual as I’ve spent six years cozy with an automatic .. I want the GR86 for my next car undoubtedly, but I’d hate to hurt the car learning on it or come to regret the simplicity of an automatic as I spend more time city than highway driving. Any words of advice in either direction would be greatly appreciated. Some fear of missing out on the intuitive experience of learning and mastering manual but the simplicity of automatic is something I can’t quite ignore.

Ill buy one once they confirm they’ve fixed the rtv challenge

Is it only premium gas?

Based on the number of blown up engine before 90k miles on the used car market, i tend to think they arent that reliable engine when reved up a bit, changes made over the years that would eliminate my concerns anyone?

Did they fix the RTV silicone and oil pickup issues?

engine has to be pulled to change spark plugs ugh

"Drive this car like it insulted your mom" - well, sounds like there's plenty of Mustangs and Chargers that insulted their owner's moms, based on the way they drive.

Really like this car except for one thing. The cabin noise at highway speed is awful! :(

The turbo Corolla version is coming.

Downfall is the turn signal stalk...I can get decent mileage on the highway at 65MPG....but it burns a lot of pricey gas around town.

I would buy it if it comes with a turbo and if it comes with a wide body kits i buy it even more but I would be satisfied with the turbo

Three big issues with this car: 1) Excessive road noise and rain impact noise, caused by thin sheetmetal and limited sound damping materials, 2) short 6th gear forcing you to hit 4K when you're only doing like 85mph (there is no need for such a short 6th gear when most people are going to downshift to pass anyway), and 3) a grungy sounding motor, especially on cold startup. It's a fantastic car if you have twisty roads on your commute, but not an only car by any means, unless you're still in your 20s and can tolerate it.

And the RTV issue?

Royal South Toyota may be good to deal with but not their prices, $2500 over MSRP.

Someone said the sound system was terrible can you confirm

✨solar shift✨ orange

I’m getting 15 MPG…

I don’t drive my car hard at all. Idk how tf y’all getting over 28mpg. My commute is 95% freeway.

Can you start the car with the key before entering or no

This car should have the 1.6L i3 from the gr corolla making it super appealing

I really want one but the silicone problem is absolutely unacceptable

The turbo “issue” really isn’t that big of a deal when the 2.0T Supra exists, it’s very similar to the 86 and for Toyota, it functions as the accessible sports car with a turbo. I would imagine a turbo 86 would be very similar in cost to the 2.0 Supra.

A TT tundra gets about 17 idk how this little car could do worse unless you fall asleep with your foot on the gas

Its a shame the rtv ruined the car, waiting for revised version. I like my oil pickup clean.

Having a hard time choosing between the Elantra N, GR86, and the BRZ. I feel like the EN would be better as an overall day to day car and coming from the 1st generation Genesis coupe platform I love coupes and can make due with the 2nd row not really being usable. It's a good problem to have when all 3 are worthy of purchasing

With back seats like that, they could've just made the car a 2-seater

I wouldn't touch this car until the RTV Engine Sealant issue is resolved by Subaru & Toyota. This is a serious issue that will literally destroy the engine when you push the car hard, and it was designed to be driven hard! There is even talk of a possible recall as well. If you expect to track the car, do not buy it. Unfortunate, as it is an otherwise exciting car.

6'3 ?! jesus

Boxer engine =Reliability...up to 100,000. Lol

You look like a giant compared to the GR86. Or is the car super small?

too bad that it has an crazy markup.... wont be able to afford it because of that.... 2023 brz is between 40k-48k eur (which is 43k-52k usd) 2023 gr86 from 40k to 72k (43k-78k usd) also, the 2023 supra (3L, not the 2L one) is 63k-80k eur (68k-87k usd)

Really want to buy one but no way after seeing all of these horror videos of RTV backup Toyota is going to have a huge recall on their hands very soon I’m not dealing with that headache.

Subaru has a long history of engine problems. They are finding significant bearing wear from oil starvation due to rtv getting in the pickup. The silicone is mainly coming from the timing cover and oil pan. My local Subaru dealer refuses to acknowledge the problem. However, our local shops that I supply parts to are seeing rtv in the pickup tubes and metal flakes from bearing wear in the oil pans. I'm sure there is a class action lawsuit being prepared and hopefully a mandatory government recall issue. Toyota should know better. However, their two sports cars are not made by them and unless they installed a real Toyota engine in the GR 86, I would stay away from the little car.

Did you say “Mitch-elin” tires? I had to stop it there.

i wish i livecd somewhere else, cuz here it cost over 50k

Mitch-elin 🤔

Automatic for me

Only reason you need not to buy this car: Underperform...don’t know why Toyota hasn’t slapped a 300hp engine in it...they could use the Lexus IS engine if they wanted to, the TDR in the Camry

Still more powerful than a 2001 V6 FORD MUSTANG

The first generation is a lower center gravity and the steering feed back is a tad better than second generation. I would pick the first generation to save money. It’s zeros to sixty is point tenths of a second fastest. First generation mpg gets 31 mpg and the new gets 26mpg. Taking both generation to the tracks to the finish line quicker, there is not much difference in time attack, but the only price difference of $15k markup price. The handling is at the same level but first gen is a tad better.

the 2022 had a turbo...

Who buys a sports car and worrys about the fuel mileage!

Well they already have your "version" with turbo. It's the Supra. While it's true that it is a different car, what most people don't realize is that this car would change if they added turbo - center of gravity would go up - so handling changes, reliability with turbo goes down and so on

Predicted reliability? I can answer that for easily. It’s going to develop a substantial oil leak around 80k miles like all POS Subaru’s with engines mounted incorrectly by 90 degrees. You’ll have difficulty finding a mechanic that will want to work on it and when you do it will be costly. Enjoy.

I’ve have not seen one of these new 86s breaking into the 6 second range when trying to hit 60. This car is still slow as hell. But it is just fast enough to have fun and not get dusted by a mini van at a stop light. Still a great car but I won’t be buying one this time around. Toyota should just delete these back seats and make it a hatch back coupe.

The problem with underpowered cars is odometer miles don’t explain how many spins the engine needs to make power. Multiply the odometer, and thus the price, by 2-4x.

My 2023 GR86 that has only 4971 miles did not even made the first service was already broken! Engine blew up and Toyota is denying warranty… Shop quoted me for a new engine for over $31Gs!. I wouldn’t buy this car again unless it’s a real Toyota engine.

and the #1 reason not to buy...Right turns lol

Swan song to the combustion engine. Seriously dude, WTF are you smoking!

Gas Mileage is horrible.

It’s not a real Toyota. If you want a Toyota go with the GR Corolla.

1 reason not to: Dealers are asking for 8k above msrp. 😩

you are too tall guy, it is not for you

Its only 1.5 seconds fastest on the track compared to first generation.

NO! DO NOT BUY NEW CARS, BUYING THESE 30K CARS FOR 40-50K CARS BEING MARKED UP 15-30K IS MAKING THE MARKET WORSE, DO NOT BUY NEW CARS, THEY WILL NEVER STOP BEING MARKED UP SO HIGH BASE MODLE CIVICS DO NOT NEED TO BE 30K+, I REPEAT, PLEASE BUY USED CARS, DO NOT BUY NEW ONES, ONLY THE CONSUMER CAN CHANGE THE MARKET FLOW

This entire video covered nothing new from any others that came months ago.

Reliability? I can help with that. It’s gonna develop a moderate oil leak by the time it hits 80k miles just like every other piece of shit boxer Subaru engine.

Do not buy one horrible motor and silicone problems to many ppl are having

No foes? Mazda Miata? VW Golf? Hello?

Don’t pay mark up for this especially the automatic This car supper overhyped

228 hp on premium gas, Ya it's a C tier car.

Don’t forget to pick up your box mod vape or else you shouldn’t drive this car.

obviously that car was not design for a person with your size and car knowledge.

You won't get one for 6-9months due to lack of toyota production so not worth even considering tbh

Don’t buy it. People owning the gr86/brz are having issues with silicone getting into the oil pan. Look it up.