I've owned this lock for over a year and have tried picking it several times, unaware of the side bar. I'll be able to get it now. Thanks for the great bit of knowledge.
Turns out it wasn't _his_ lock he was trying so hard to pick opened, and was finally caught by the owner. A one sided gun fight ensued and he was permanently dealt with.
They don’t care about it being picked, out of every break in maybe 1 out of 1000 it’s due to it being picked. edit: fixed spelling error of word maybe.
Video after video keep showing the people at Master Lock they make junk.The only reason they would bury their heads in their hands is because they like to smell their own farts.
I have been picking locks for 40 years, and am blown away by what Lock Lawyer does. He has extra feeling in his fingers, a gift from God. MOST will Never ever come anywhere near him, no matter how much practice.! So be happy at your plateau !!
Master lock: "ha! We have finally gotten him!" Lpl: all we need to do is shove this thing in here and this lock becomes easy" Master lock: "Mo!#$&F&#%$@"
Thank you for this channel, i can entirely blame my start into the world of picking on you. I hope you continue making vids, they have been incredibly helpful.
Uhmm... obviously it's a personal thing but I started with a cheap one-of-everything kind of kit from china but soon found that I rarely use anything besides the short hook. Sometimes a medium one, sometimes a half diamond. It's cool to have the rest lying around and play with it but once you know a little bit what works for you and you're not too harsh on your picks anymore (we all abuse them in the beginning :) ), I would go for a little thinner steel, a little higher quality and small kits or even single picks. I recently got a few things from sparrows which seem really quite nice but it's a bit pricey imo. As long as you're having fun and are not breaking your bank it's all good :D
It would be extremely tedious having to apply torque on the keyway and simultaneously holding the factory tool to reset the key. If you were that experienced in lock picking, you wouldn’t even want that trash core for yourself other than for resale value.
I thought this lock looked interesting... but, a lot of the reviews I'm finding online say the lock fails fairly quickly in the wild--fails to open with proper key. Plus, this lock has been discontinued by Master... so that's probably why it is hard to find. This really seems a shame as everyone loves the ability to key this to a kwikset key. My search for a good lock continues...
Thank you! Thank you! Helpful and informative as usual! I have a M532 that I use to secure my tools at job sites and love but it failed open last week... apparently the re-keying mechanism had somehow become activated and wouldn't allow the lock to stay closed, after running it through the re-keying procedure described in your video (using a paperclip lol and the original key) and it appears to be working correctly again! Thanks again!
I picked my first lock the other day using what I learned here, it was my dads favorite master lock bar style lock, it took me about 5 mins to get it the first time, then less than 1 min the other 4 times I did it.
@Benjamin Ale well, honestly I haven't picked another lock since, my father has since died and my financial and personal priorities don't allow for things I enjoy often, I'm currently trying to save money to sue my step mother who won't even give me any of my father's ashes and is breaking the law as she is also refusing to give me the portion of his personal property allowed to me by state law.
@@medes5597 that sounds awfully counterproductive.... most industries/companies pay people good at defeating/ruining/breaking/exploiting their products so they can learn and improve.....
LPL should work for a lock company honestly his ideas are some of the best, His super logical way of thinking could really design some great locks, I'm always amazed by the bypasses and picks he's able to do... I wish my mind worked like his..
Well, I’m a puzzle solver guy...and I can’t get enough of these episodes. My favorite new pastime. This episode makes me wanna ask, “Why aren’t the lock companies contracting with you to help design a pick-proof lock?” It sounds like you’d be a natural consultant for these guys...and your input and the execution of your ideas would significantly increase the market value of their product. (I hear a few “cha-chings” when I say that)
Also that could drive the price up, and they cater to the average ignorant Joe, so it wouldn't be that useful to have lpl and he can't really praise other lock companies anymore in his vids.
I charge for evaluations done at the prototype stage. At this point, master lock has spent tens maybe hundreds of thousands of dollars tooling up. They are not making any changes anytime soon.
fair enough... now i know :) anyway - keep up the good work with videos. I think i will get some picking toolset sometime soon (i wanted to start long time ago)
+LockPickingLawyer If the parts are machined, CNCs can be reprogrammed. If they're stamped, the tooling wears out over time and must be replaced anyway. The actual cost of tooling changes may be lower than you estimate (or a lot higher than I estimate). Even if you're right and it's up in the hundreds of thousands, how many of these locks do they sell and how many more could they sell if they were a lot harder to pick? Only Master Lock have those figures. But the fact that this core addressed some of the flaws you found in its predecessor indicates they're willing to make improvements. However, they're probably not going to pay you for your advice. You've already said what's wrong, so all they have to do is figure out how to fix those problems. OTOH, if they'd asked you at the prototype stage they'd have been ahead of the game.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the fix to the two biggest flaws could be only ... modifying the core retainer. A beefier part, that just overlaps the face of the core where you're inserting your tensioning tool. Only one part and no change to the assembly process.
The construction of the bodies on those magnum locks are very tough. If some thief comes across this padlock even if they have some skill picking they won’t get this open. Very cool
I love those screwdrivers. I've got a stack of maybe a dozen of them. £1 each... bargain. Also well done with the pick. That seems slightly more relevant!
Was just able to make a key for one while locked. Put pressure on sidebar with paperclip and decoded with lishi. Read the cuts 1 cut to high. once I cut them all down one extra cut turned perfect.
Hopefully Master looks at videos online showing faults in their locks. I can understand not wanting to spend more money on a design already manufactured and sent to shelves, but good R&D should see faults before the lock is made and sent to the press. Bypasses come to mind more than the internals, as most thieves aren't concerned about actually picking a lock.
as i said before, reverse sidebars, protect the reset access, now if they can protect the "outside bar access", and the cover plate of course, you would have a real lock
Given the construction of this Master Lock model is made a little tougher to pick for unexperienced and even some experienced chaps I would consider purchasing it.
Seems like a simpler solution would be to cut the top portion of the key away. The remaining bottom part of the key would deal with the sliders and would double as a tensioner. Its a wide open key way so there would still be plenty of room for a pick.
The balls in ML's court now. They could very easily impress me, or they can hold true to history. I AINT holding my breathe. By the way minutiae ... great word.
Hi LPL! Can you do a test with eurolocks? The test is: Try to pick them with the key inserted and turned somewhat (30 to 45 degrees, this way they can't be pulled out from the lock) on the otherside! Can't wait for the results! :)
I feel this is overly harsh, Yes Master Lock could solve these problems, or at least the sidebar problem, however picking this lock open requires two details which you have to actually have knowledge of the internal mechanism of the lock in order to bypass and one of which requires a tool that you specifically made for doing the job even if you could fabricate that tool out in the wild it seems to me that this is a relatively secure lock for most purposes, the lock itself looks strong, the mechanism is good for the most part, but again I agree that it seems like it would be easy to solve this problem and so masterlock should do that unless there is some reason why they can't from a manufacturing standpoint
Maybe you could dremel out a recess on the inside of the lock body and JB-weld a thin piece of metal to the side of the core. Then, you'd finally have an unpickable Master lock!
Couldn't you overcome the side bar with a brute force attack? The materials the core are made of look very weak. I'd say that a small cold chisel wedged into the keyhole and a long wrench should be enough to overcome the side bar.
If a lock properly does this, they'd make a very nice lock Assuming it didn't have any major flaws, id consider throwing a decent amount of money at it. Basically what this says is "masterlock don't fuck it up a third time" Sorry for any errors. Cat is bein' lovey
It's crazy that all it would take to make this lock extremely difficult to pick is to make the keyway plate radius just a bit larger... And they don't do it.
I got to thinking in a devilish way about people locking doors and front gates and stuff . I thought a locked from gate like a wrought iron gate can be a blessing and a curse. Sure it can keep people out but a chain and another lock from a prankster can lock you in. Or epoxy glue can prevent you from opening the lock you used to keep thieves out....
Once you identify the exact type of core is in a lock, design a specialized tool to exploit that specific cores design weakness...picking this lock is remarkably easy lol.
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