6mm ARC and Why You Need It! Compared with 6.5 Grendel & .308 Ballistics

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@MRPINKWSPHX602 4 года назад

Who Love’s their .308 WIN?

@redisrandom5802 4 года назад

It's got WIN right in it. Lol

@gsxr1189 4 года назад

308's an old glue horse.I heard there were free 308 barrels in dumpsters behind SOCOM armories nationwide since they've dropped 308 for 6.5cm. New calibers > old calibers

@MRPINKWSPHX602 4 года назад

Nick Rodriguez 😃

@Will_1911 4 года назад

i like both my 308 and 6mm lol

@Will_1911 4 года назад

ML N lol we’re talking short action. But 270 is great. Love my 725

@joatmon6132 4 года назад

Looks like things have gone full circle and we're back at .243. . . LMAO

@aspenair8988 4 года назад

LOL, I was just telling someone about a police/military sniper manual published in 1993 was giving .243 a 600 yard max range.

@gsxr1189 4 года назад

@@aspenair8988 That might have been true aerodynamical technology in bullets has come leaps and bounds in the past 10yrs. In 1993 243cal bullets sucked.

@rifleshooterchannel208 4 года назад

Aspen Air Could’ve been a “practical” max range, taking into account that police snipers don’t have much business shooting that far anyway.

@natebise6424 4 года назад

@Nick Rodriguez yes but with 58gr vmax at just under 4000 fps it will penetrate most body armor produced

@trilliamogdlocog4986 4 года назад

@@natebise6424 those are mostly soft points xm193 is the best stuff civilians can get.

@jonhurley1750 4 года назад

6mm arc sounds very interesting but so did the valkirey. I think I'll stick with the grendel for now and wait and see on the 6mm

@pwrbomb1970 4 года назад

Valkyrie hasn’t failed. Mine sure hasn’t. Shooting 80 gr Sierra Mk and cfe223 I get sub moa at 300 yards easy. Valkyrie is a reloaders dream. But I’m with most others...I’ll stay with my Grendel.

@pwrbomb1970 4 года назад

What didn’t it deliver?? I have folks shooting their 85 and 90 bullets sub moa out of The Valkyrie out to 1000 plus yards!! How’s that a fail? That’s what it is supposed to be doing. It takes work to get it there, but that’s the beauty of things. Anything worth having you have to work for. But hey your opinion is yours. I beg to differ and that’s my right. Out.

@Will_1911 4 года назад

The more you look into the arc the more impressed you’ll be. But it really depends on the application.

@denisolson1734 4 года назад

@Nick Rodriguez sounds like you're quite butt hurt. The valkyrie is a target and varmint round only

@Brimwald 4 года назад

@Nick Rodriguez the Valkyrie performs better than any AR15 round at distance. As for AR10 which is a totally different platform (whole new gun) it performs better than 308 in everything but energy on target and comes close to 6.5 CM on everything but energy. If you want a lighter weight long range AR15 that can hit at incredible range Valkyrie does it.

@ebhsports6251 4 года назад

The 6mm ARC would be cool if you could actually find readily available ammo in stock at a price you can afford to shoot like Wolf or Barnaul 6.5 Grendel.

@gsxr1189 3 года назад

Affordable ammo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That was some funny shit man!!!

@sweet65mustang 3 года назад

Next thing you know he'll be talking about affordable lumber.

@issstari954 Год назад

@@gsxr1189 currently theres zero ammo for 6mm arc affordable or otherwise avalible on the interent or any local gun store as of this post

@gsxr1189 Год назад

@@issstari954 Yes there's some Hornady 108gr ELD for $1.57/round. It was running $1/round before the shortage so that's about on par with the rest of the ammo market right now. Use ammoseek to find ammo that's what everyone else does.

@bryanharness1122 11 месяцев назад

If you don't reload. U need to start

@coastabrava2130 4 года назад

I'm glad you did a video on the Arc vs the grindel.. I've been asking for one for a while everyone else has just been talkin about it not actually comparing ballistics at the range thanks

@rcrehab9623 4 года назад

Love is recent context from you ! Really enjoying it!

@Ocdoutdoors 4 года назад

I bought all the upper parts for a 264LBC (6.5 grendel) the day before Hornady released all the info on this 6 ARC..I have 2 other grendel's but this BHW barrel was on sale and wanted an 16" to test for my channel.. so when I watched all the videos on this ARC you could say I was a little upset.. that said, I'm waiting for Sanders Armory to get their barrels in stock and I'll be on the arc train and I'll be reloading for it.. hopping starline or any other good brass co will have cases available.. thanks John for putting out the real world numbers on this.. as many see it as a fad.

@Ohio_Motonaut 4 года назад

Good info. I paid $21.99 a box locally for 6mm ARC. I can't wait until Criterion releases their barrels so I can complete my build.

@TacticsB4Strength 3 года назад

Earlier this year when I was just finishing my grendel build, all of a sudden 6mm arc started being advertised and popping up. Was a little salty about that, but the ammo situation for the arc calmed me. Plus I was building a creedmoor anyway.

@Sheppard2030 4 года назад

RU-vid must be smokin' some crack with their advertising decisions.

@charlesmckinley29 4 года назад

Soak up all that Biden money we can! The more spent on deaf ears the better!

@outboardprsnlstndup 4 года назад

Well, it’s also nice when he’ll put on some add where he stumbles through it and sounds just like trump says he does. Trump can’t buy advertising that good

@hernanolmosvelazquez4303 3 года назад

At least it’s not in German 😭😂😂

@Snapper314 3 года назад

Something looks off. A 123gr 6.5 Grendel projectile out of an 18 inch barrel should still be supersonic past 1,000 yards. And a 168gr projectile in a 308Win is NOT supersonic at 1,000 yards. A 175gr will be, but not the 168.

@dallasweber7692 9 месяцев назад

I Have 3 ARC’s However My 6.5 PRC Holds & Delivers Over A 600 BC Which Is The Most Important In Ballistic Co-Efficiency. Great Footage. Keep It Coming. Both Are Good For Over 1200 Yards With Excellent Optics. Especially The 6.5 PRC’s.

@rutrose2000 2 года назад

Honestly logistics was the major factor in steering me toward 6 ARC. Uses small primers, powders I already keep on hand for 223, selection of bullets out the wa-zoo. Everything needed to make a quality bullet is a lot easier and cheaper to get when you can find it. Couple that with a excellent range the bullet stays supersonic at and it was a no brainer.

@Pro-Gunn1952 4 года назад

Thank you! Thank you! I was hoping that this 6mm arc was not just a fluke. From what I read it just looked promising. Your earlier video there was a look in your eyes and a spark in your voice about this round. If you don't mind my plans is to follow you thru your build and try to build my first precision rifle. The best, John Huskey

@davejs2569 4 года назад

Great job, love all that you show us!

@SgtDvldawg 4 года назад

Love the way you put this together Brother! I dig the new setup. I was waiting to see this kind of comparison. As you said I will not give up my Grendel, but it’s a good thing I have another precision set up lower to slap an ARC upper on. It’s awesome to have options this good that fit on AR15 platform. That has been my main thing. Besides I have extra bolts and mags so easy transition all I need is the barrel and a set of dies and I can get to work!!I am building an AR10 Creedmoore, there’s just something about a light weight precision/able to hunt with AR15!! Keep up the great work Brother!! Thanks for all your research to help us make some good decisions. I need an ARC in my inventory and I will have one! Semper Fi!

@stoltzld80 3 года назад

SFMF !

@joegolden462 4 года назад

Awesome video! Very informative comparison. In fact I am putting together to build a 6mm ARC in 18 inch barrel and will follow with a 16 inch build soon. This video is vital to my decisions. I currently have 6.5 Grendel with 18 inch barrel and love it. I like that the 6mm ARC is a supercharged .243 making an Awesome hunting round.

@Dunk1It1Hard 2 года назад

It’s my understanding that 6ARC is .243 lite

@justaformer11b95 4 года назад

Well, it's a good thing I haven't started my 6.5 build yet. Although I'd like to see what the 6mm would do out of 12in and 20in barrels. Then I'd buy the round with the best all around performance. 6.5 is getting adorable now though (when ammo isn't all bought up).

@MrRebTyree 4 года назад

Great video as always! Outstanding numbers for the 6mm Arc as compared to the 6.5 Grendel. The more I learn about the 6mm Arc, the more I'm thinking about building another upper. But haven't decided if I want a 16, 18, or 20 inch barrel. Cmmg has 16 and 20 inch barrel only for this caliber. After watching your range testing video I'm leaning more towards the 16 inch barrel. been looking for the brass also and reloading components. I think it's a very interesting round and has alot of potential!! Stay Safe and watch your Six my brother. Looking forward to your 6mmArc build!!

@kotaboy32 4 года назад

Reb, given the choice, I would personally go with the 20 inch barrel. You'll pick up a couple fps out of it.

@leesanders8824 4 года назад

I just put together a palmetto 20" Grendel and am more than happy with the results. I did put a larue mbt2s trigger in it right off the bat and am meticulous on barrel break in (my own deal there). 100 yard 5 shot groups with Wolf ammo I can cover with my thumb. So 3/4 to 1 inch. I'm happy.

@kotaboy32 4 года назад

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@weekendwarrior556 4 года назад

That's my thing on grendel, when want to do the weekend thing have option of cheap ammo like wolf steel you mention. Just curious what you think of the larue for setup. Was going to buy one for build wanting to do

@robgoose8126 4 года назад

@@weekendwarrior556 the Larue is 99% of the Geissele for 30% of the price.

@jonjames4281 4 года назад

@@kotaboy32 yeah, would love to see that too. better yet, vids of it, real time. got 2 6.5Gs an shot lots of wolf. Can easily do that +, with hornady 123gr sst handloads. wolf, not so much.

@TexanUSMC8089 4 года назад

I have 2 AR15 Grendels and a howa bolt. None of them shoot wolf well at all. I have shot 1/2 inch groups with my 123SST IMR4895 loads, but wolf shoots about 2 inch groups.

@unclebob540i3 4 года назад

Fun discussion and a great opportunity to geek out! Realistically, vast majority of people leaving comments about 1000 yards have never even seen what a target looks like at that distance, let alone shoot at it. 6.5 Grendel is a fantastic round, specially for hunting. I'm going 6mm because I want to reach out to varmints with my 15 platforms, since I refuse to build myself an LR308. The 6mm bullets buck the wind better that other calibers, that's why I put a .243win up against any long range target round. Really looking forward to seeing what you build around that ARC.

@southern842 25 дней назад

You running factory 243 loads long range?

@unclebob540i3 25 дней назад

@@southern842 I do not. I run 105gr RDFs out to 1km in my .243. Run 87gr VMAX in both my .243 and 6mm ARC for varmint & coyote.

@ChrisLoew 4 года назад

6.5 Grendel was a goal to own, when the cost comes down I’ll consider it, thanks for the time and info

@saltysaty8686 4 года назад

that's respectable... picked up my barrel at my local manufacturer for $100 and a upper-lower combo for the same price and that's what started it for me. I've started buying wolf 6.5 Grendel at 50c a shot so we'll see how it works out!

@charliebrownsd 2 года назад

I just bought a box of 500 6.5 Grendel from Wolf because it's becoming rare. I don't even have the rifle built yet, but I wanted some inexpensive ammo for zeroing and plinking. I'd hop on inexpensive ammo if you can afford it. For me, I went with the 6.5 Grendel because it is more available and I am not shooting past 500 yards because this will be a deer hunting rig. No reason to pay twice as much for 6mm ARC ammo, barrels and parts.

@btruckno1 3 месяца назад

I built my own AR-15 chambered in the 6mm ARC and have less than $500 in it right now. first group with Hornady black was .75 inches. 24" stainless barrel so I can get most all the velocity that the cartridge offers in a bolt gun.

@kerbyfab 4 года назад

That’s a great calculator! Love it

@dannypierce9528 10 месяцев назад

Great vid bro as usual

@felipio05 4 года назад

Finally somebody was able to give real answers about this round👍👍

@timothysweet6182 4 года назад

love the information.Thank you

@blaircalvin5025 4 года назад

I shoot a 6mm Hot which is the 6mm-6.5X47 Lapua with a no turn neck. It is even more accurate than the parent round. And the Lapua brass with small primer pocket is strong and quality is superb.

@TheRealCobraBurnout 4 года назад

Your chair looks comfortable. Yes, I'm jelly. Oh, nice ballistics info. You are on a higher plane of understanding than I am for sure. Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge. Great vid Sir!

@kotaboy32 4 года назад

BOOOOOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!

@robertjackson1407 2 года назад

Thank you 😊

@TexanUSMC8089 4 года назад

I bought a 6mm Predator a few years ago. 22 inch barrel. I have no problem hitting 2700-2750 fps with a 103eldx.

@RenaissanceThinking 4 года назад

I've been really interested in this exact comparison. This idea of squeezing basicly a .243 into an AR-15 platform could be a game changer. Thank you for the info.

@maxwelsnyder3672 3 года назад

Look at the 6mmAR. Don’t support crooks.

@marcgonzalez9547 3 года назад

7mm Raptor

@csmith1 2 года назад

@@maxwelsnyder3672 what do you mean? And who makes the 6mm AR?

@BushmasterRaZ 2 года назад

.243 ar10s are decently common.

@RenaissanceThinking 2 года назад

@@BushmasterRaZ they are...but .243 performance in an AR-15 platform as opposed to an AR-10 is very appealing.

@B_r_u_c_e Год назад

Thank you.

@hawaiiangunner 4 года назад

This makes sense to me. I'm in soon as brass becomes available. Easy Choice

@Brimwald 4 года назад

Love hearing the data

@johnsmithfakename8422 4 года назад

6mm ARC reminds me of the 6mm Optimum concept. Therefore I am very interested in it and hope the market backs it up.

@ninjascout468 4 года назад

Gotta stay with my 6.5 Grendal bolt gun and AR pistol 12" build under way now

@jamiesmith4125 4 года назад

F.Y.I. I'm getting 2250 fps out of 123's with my 12" 6.5 Grendel reloading using Benchmark powder. Can't jive with him saying he only getting another 100 fps with another 8" of Barrel length Specially with my buddy getting 2500 fps in his 18" . Don't know why these guys gotta fudge the #'s

@Turing_Test 3 года назад

You're gonna love that pistol chambered in Grendel. I finished an Alexander Arms 11.5" pistol build earlier this year. Slapped a Razor gen 3 1-10 on it and its the closest I've come to a true do it all build. It is the absolute pride and joy of my collection. From cqb all the way out to 1000, it gets the job done.

@Stoney_AKA_James 4 года назад

Very good, I'm really interested in seeing your build!

@daNeterAUsaru999 2 года назад

I shoot both the 6.5 Grendel and the 6MM ARC. Both of them are awesome rounds. I chambered the 6.5 Grendel in an 18 inch barrel and the 6 MM ARC out of a 20’ inch barrel. Using them both for different purposes. 6.5 Grendel for camping and the 6 ARC for competition shooting. These rounds were very hard to find during the Plandemic and I ended up finding a plug at the gunshows and he would sell both ballistics in bulk. It was expensive but worth it at the time. Now I can find 6MM ARC easily but the Grendel is still pretty illusive as it isn’t found in as many places as the 6 MM ARC.

@davidescobar5366 2 года назад

Honestly the Grendell was originally conceived for Army special forces to be able to target longer distance targets with the shorter rifle chanbered in 14" most of the time and have more penetrating power even than the .223 round they carry now. 6mm is awesome however.

@brazzy1467 4 года назад

I've got 3 different 6mm ARC's that I'm building but still waiting for the Hornady Precision Hunter to come out. Now I have a 12.5" 6.5 Grendel I built on a ZEV upper and lower receivers and a ballistic advantage barrel. I've taken prong horn, deer, and elk within 200 yds. So my 6mm ARC has a lot to of catching up to do.

@twissted1277 4 года назад

I have a BSF barrel in 20'' on the way. Gibbz upper and JP Enterprize bolt. I have hight hopes as soon as the barrel gets here.

@ThecrazyScotsman 4 года назад

Pretty cool very informative shooters calculator looks very well done

@DB.KOOPER 3 года назад

Looks like a cool cartridge if I could get parts for it to try it. I'm just annoyed that now all the 6.5 Grendel parts (bolts, cases etc) are being taken up by the people frothing over 6mm ARC. I liked it better when people were freaking out over 6.5 CM and leaving us 6.5 Grendel guys alone. IMO if SIG's new case tech works out and becomes commercially available, the 6.5 Grendel would get even better (as would ALL calibers FWIW) and let me put a 123gr pill put of the barrel at 5.56 speeds. I love the Grendel. Ive taken an elk and several deer and it never let's me down hunting the mountains of Idaho.

@richarduk679 10 месяцев назад

Agree with everything you say. However an important point not discussed in your and most other similar videos is what the 6.5 Grendel was designed to do. Basically the 6.5 Grendel was not designed for target or hunting (where expanding rounds are permitted) shooting. It was specifically designed for the military in so far as it was designed to have the hitting power of an AK47 whilst keeping the accuracy of the 5.56 NATO round.

@sanjayjha9255 4 года назад

Sir, I believe this is a viable option in the AR platform. I have looked at the data and believe in the reasoning for this. Some will look at this strictly as a 'wildcat'. However, as for Department of Defense and military, it will be as to what remains/becomes the standardized cartridge. For the average rifleman it is still 5.56mm.When the 6.8mm came out DOD did not adopt that (as a whole) for their cartridge. The popularity of this cartridge will be left to what ammunition logisticians influence decision makers to stockpile for the next 50 years or so. Nice video.

@Alienz117 Год назад

I liked this comparisons

@clintford1267 Год назад

The advantage for 6.5 grendel to me is rifle weight. The .308 iis a much heavier platform. The 6.5 allows a slightly bigger bullet in the 123 over the arcs 108 . The differencs isnt much but still for my hunting needs the grendel seems to work . For punching holes in paper the arc might be the better choice.

@woodsy168 4 года назад

6mmARC looks sweet I just built a 6.5 grendel haha I'm no long range shooter. But as for hunting elk with the ARC. I personally dont think I'd do it. But I dont know much about it. Sectional density, bullet expansion and penetration are what needs to be looked at for hunting something like elk. I've seen elk taken at 400 yards with the grendel. With 130 grain bullets. Personally (which is really what it comes down to) as much as I love my grendel. I'll take my 270 9 times out of 10 for something as big as elk. And I probably wouldn't shoot more than 200 yards if I did take my grendel for elk.

@jazon9 4 года назад

For long range 6.5 Grendel needs more velocity meens longer barrel. It is why a lot of grendel rig use 22-24" barrel (and sometimes 20"). 18" in grendel is relativity short for long range.

@jonsanssoucie8592 3 года назад

Cool I've already invested financially in the Grendel ! build , dies , brass etc . I'm not seeing a large enough difference were I need to switch . just going to train with the Grendel . sell rounds cheaper per round and to reload then maybe .

@hoosiered471 3 года назад

Interesting.....very interesting data.

@matt-bb2kv Год назад

Seems like a fine round

@bubba7626 7 месяцев назад

Diff between a 6mm ARC and a .243 is the barrel twist. The standard 6mm ARC vs .243 standard at same barrel length. 6mm can handle the higher BC 108s better than the 1 in 9.5 twist .243 hence it catches and passes it in bullet drop and foot lbs out past 500 yds

@garygearhart2759 4 года назад

Not knocking your new 6mm I thinks it’s interesting... but your Grendel velocity seems a bit low as does your 308, almost sounds like the adds for the 350 legend the just as good as... or better than argument under skewed data commercials haha... also a neat round but please don’t pick the lows from the competition and the high from the round you are showcasing... I too have much “real world” chronograph data and while 6arc does have an advantage it is not near the advantage that your “real world” data shows. At least as compared to my chronograph data. Thank you for producing entertaining videos and supporting our great 2nd amendment!

@georgeesquivel2517 3 года назад

Thanks for the video it was informational it was helpful for what I was looking for like the video 👍😎

@swamprat9018 4 года назад

I like it. I'm a big Grendel fan. I think Hornady squeezed as much as could be squeezed out of the AR platform with the ARC. I won't be switching but I hope someone will start making some better mags for the Grendel/arc now. I'm a hunter and what the Grendel does is just perfect I'm not giving up my 15grains. One think the Grendel has over the ARC now is $6 box plinking ammo.

@dionysis84 Год назад

You hit the nail on the head with this take…. 2 years later and everything is the same. Grendel is probably a better mid range hunting round and cheaper but the arc has better ballistics

@swamprat9018 Год назад

@@dionysis84 and better ballistics don't make better terminal performance all the time. Which if your paper punching does not matter.

@phils.4719 4 года назад

Dang And I just finished building a Grendel upper this last Christmas

@ScreamingReel500 3 года назад

These are effective less than 350 yard for small game. Beyond 500 yards you need bolt rifle or longer barrel. And who hunts at that distance? Grendel ammo is more affordable.

@FT4Freedom 4 года назад

I'm with 308 WIN. Because 300 yards. DRT.

@JEJAK5396 3 года назад

A marginal impact at 300 yards is not going to be overcome by 1.62mm cross sectional width, and 60 additional grains of mass. In other words, choose the round that will give you adequate lethality, with less recoil, system weight, and greater accuracy.

@kencaz 4 года назад

Great stuffs... But I just luvs my .308 150gr... Bolt... Its cheap heavy and hits hard... But 6mm arc looks pretty darn nice...

@keithkent8126 4 года назад

Nice project , on paper it looks great , hope it yields the results your looking for . K

@blazerk9614 4 года назад

Big red got it right, by the way you're nuts and I love it.

@SocialRegressive 4 года назад

Shooter's Calculator rocks. I saw that they're working on some changes in the background. Can't wait to see what they end up with. Great video, Kotaboy!

@michaeldarby2242 Год назад

Maybe they will compare closer bullet weights. I push a 107gr seirra that surpasses the arc... all day long.

@jeremyfrix522 Год назад

I still like my 6.5 Grendel , works great for my style of shooting 👍🏻

@brianblackwell2308 4 года назад

Very interesting

@JoeyBaby47 4 года назад

The more I watch what the 6mm ARC can do, the more I like it and want it. I'm glad I never had the money for an AR10 platform so I didn't spend my money on 308 and 6.5 Creedmoor rifles and ammo. I'll probably get them some time down the road, but that 6mm ARC is coming first.

@SpudOutdoors 4 года назад

As for as the sound barrier watch Mark and Sam. They shoot through sound barrier all the time and bullets are still stable.

@jeffpittman8725 3 года назад

I'm burned out from all the new greatest new cartridges. It's all been done before.

@derek3154 4 года назад

Wish I could find some long range shooting in VA, most I can find around me is a 200yd range.

@nathanmccullough7755 7 месяцев назад

the 6mm arc just might be the best small frame AR round in existence. I've never been a fan of AR10s due to bulk and weight but the AR15 is great. For a SPR/DMR, the 6mm ARC seems about perfect given the limitations of the small frame platform. It also opens a ton of possibilities to the one lower, multiple upper guy that wants to do alot of things, including hunting.

@benjimenfranklin7173 4 года назад

You can keep it . The .257 Weatherby Magnum can do anything the 6 mm Arc can do and I already have the Weatherby.

@blazerk9614 4 года назад

Not out of an AR

@benjimenfranklin7173 4 года назад

@@blazerk9614 Who needs an AR ? In my reckoning the AR platform is flawed. I had rather have an AK or a PSL any day. The Weatherby will out preform any AR you can come up with. My Papa told me if it ant broke don't fix it . I have no need for a piece of junk AR. The damn things don't even make good clubs they break.

@blazerk9614 4 года назад

@@benjimenfranklin7173 i stand corrected

@gsxr1189 4 года назад

@@benjimenfranklin7173 The butthurt in this comment section is glorious including yours.

@nenerx3 2 года назад

just order a 6mm ARC barrel! great video.

@Swampyank860 4 года назад

Really enjoy the screen capture! I have high hopes for this round. Looking to host them in my store, any leads on barrels?

@korilesmann789 Год назад

Great video, I recently won a 6mm arc at a wild game feed/gun raffle and was wondering how good it is. Ammo isn’t easy to find but sounds like I will keep it👍

@shermdog6969 4 года назад

Great cartridge but can't find it yet alone afford it. I'll keep reloading my Grendel.

@tompanek7511 Год назад

Need more manufacturers to put out more ARC ammo especially 90 grain. I believe that is gonna be the sweet spot for 6 ARC.

@ej5609 4 года назад

Terminal ballistics winner is 6.5G. You mentioned terminal ballistics in your video @kotaboy32 tactical, but I think you were referring to exterior ballistics. True, exterior ballistics look good on 6A for hole punching. I'm sticking with grendel for the terminal ballistics winner.

@gsxr1189 4 года назад

It's a 108gr vs a 123gr both having the same muzzle energy and there's not a huge disparity in weight there so why would Grendel be the "terminal ballistics winner"?

@johnjpa808 4 года назад

6mm Arc is very interesting ammo does need to catch up before I pull the trigger on it. Pretty much every caliber out there now. Let’s talk KPS and Sectional density. I know not everyone has powerful rifles for just hunting but my thought is it has to be able to drop what I am shooting at quickly and effectively. I say that but .243 does drop medium game animals.

@astroidother3609 4 года назад

Early in the video and I’m thinking that I just got into the 6.5 Grendel. Fingers crossed that was still a good move by the end. Cheers KB32

@forestwolf60 4 года назад

Same here but I'm sticking with the Grendel

@ninjascout468 4 года назад

Grendal here also , waiting on my pistol kit to get here .. video soon

@mv1arms 4 года назад

@@ninjascout468 short barrel grendels are awesome

@828enigma6 4 года назад

I'd not be concerned. Grendel has been around a while, and ammo is available. 6mmARC, not so much. It's probably a great round, but I'd wait and see if it takes off.

@astroidother3609 4 года назад

Any thoughts on hunting with a 13inch barrelled upper?

@thewiseman6866 4 года назад

Great 👍 info.

@perrinayebarra 3 года назад

In 10 years if the arc is still a thing I might make the switch.

@raging_rhino2582 3 года назад

The 6ARC is prob the option if your choosing a competition round. If on the other hand your wanting an AR 15 cartridge that hits a ton harder than the 223/5.56, is available in affordable steel case to use for predators/whitetail deer/self defense... GRENDEL ALL DAY LONG IF you're competing in an "Unknown Sniper" comp...might want to choose the 6ARC

@SpudOutdoors 4 года назад

Main benefit of grendel, you can buy bulk wolf ammo 100 gn. Cheapest you can buy for the most part. Super low SD. Out of 18” still has 9mm energy at 1000 yards. 6mm ARC only makes sense in benchrest shooting. If you want self defense and long range. 6.5 Grendel. Not saying you can’t use arc for both but let me know where you can buy a 1000 rounds for under $300 for ARC.

@jasonjackson329 4 года назад

The moment I heard about this new 6 arc. I knew I wanted it. Why. Hell idk why. Maybe cause it’s something new and something I don’t have 🤷🏼‍♂️ but I’ll probably wait and see if it actually pans out first

@jimwhitaker8751 2 года назад

In Missouri, the 6mm ARC ammo is more plentiful than 6.5 Grendel. In fact, I haven't seen ANY Grendel ammo in many months. However, the 6mm ARC seems to have ammo on the shelf most of the time at a variety of retailers.

@eltenda 4 года назад

very, very interesting!!!

@NickNnox 4 года назад

When it comes to picking up what you're laying down, you make it easy. (Coming from a red dot guy) 😂

@FlowBaka 3 года назад

I feel like it’s another hype like 224 valk. We will see if it will stick or not.

@joesal8097 4 года назад

My only complaint about my 6.5 Grendel is that it isn't my 7mm-mag. Although it does make a nice AR pistol, and that brings a different concept to the table, the 6.5 Grendel has approx. cartridge as a 44 mag with approximate a 25-06 bullet.

@0661mike 4 года назад

I wonder how the barrels will hold up? This may actually be a practical game changer all things considered 👏

@swamprat9018 4 года назад

barrel life from what hornady is saying is Very good.

@TTiger86268 4 года назад

interested in the 6mm ARC especially if its anything near the 6.5 creedmoor. Waiting to invest in it until its out for a bit though.

@crashdsnowman1 Год назад

No near a Creed, about 300fps slower.

@donhammer186 3 года назад

6 mm arc = 6 PPC . With that being said... If the 6mm arc would have been available when I built my Grendel, I probably would have gone with the 6mm arc. Honestly I'm glad I didn't! I have a wider range of projectile weights with the Grendel than with the arc. Great vid KB, Lovin the charts on shooters calculator. Thank's!

@patclark2186 2 года назад

excellent comparison. I suspect this a distinction that the deer I shoot wont be able to tell. The only caveat for hunters is to remember that rifles are not yet energy weapons; and "foot pounds of energy" while useful, do not directly corelate with ethical killing ability .

@Pew_pewchronicles Год назад

The margin of error is so close that a long range most hunters can’t accurately call wind to make a difference I own both 6.5 Grendel and 6mm arc and love them equally they the most efficient cartridges on a ar15 platform so much that my BCM and Daniel Defense 556’s are relegated to home defense and steel plinking

@btruckno1 3 месяца назад

caldwell ballistics calculator allows that as well.

@fredeb67 2 года назад

I can find .308 everywhere and within 400 yards, it is KING. 800 and 1,000 yard shooting will never happen on the east cost in the woods. .308 Wolf military surplus is available for plinking too .

@craigbrown2748 3 года назад

I appreciate the info presented here...very much. But right now 6.5G is still the better option from a practical sense for the vast majority of people. I totally appreciate the thought process behind the BDC being the same with 308 though...that's a huge selling point form someone like Primary Arms. But until ammo availability and price matches that of 6.5G then for most of us it's not very practical to choose 6mm ARC yet.

@ModernSurvivalSense 4 года назад

The 6 looks good, but still uses the Grendel case. With people still having pressure issues breaking bolts, is this going to now transfer to the ARC? I’m pretty well invested in the 6.8 as it is, and the problem I see with all of these -15 cartridges is they are unable to get the kinetic energy to justify their use at ranges past 4-600yds for anything other than pinching paper. It just seems to be the limitation of the casing. I wish the development of the arc utilized a casing a little more forgiving in an AR-15 platform. I’ll keep up to date with the progress, but will likely stick with the 6.8 that is highly effective at practical ranges for the platform and utilizing a case less prone to parts breakages. Thanks for the vid

@ravissary79 4 года назад

the grendel bolts issue was on people's lips 10 years ago. Now a days people make bolts even thinner than for the Grendel, like the POF revolution: a 308 bolt for an AR15 sized carrier (some bolt diameter as .223 but with a .308 case head cut out, very thin side walls). The Grendel bolt issue wasn't a problem with the grendel. It was a metallurgy issue.

@mattstarr2674 4 года назад

My Grendel bolt extractor broke in 400 rounds but it was a BCA bolt.

@000one 3 года назад

The type two bolt I am using in one of my 6.5 Grendel AR;s has 2k rounds without a problem and my loads are only a grain or two from max. That problem was cured by Alexander Arms a few years ago. Load correctly, set up your chamber, barrel torque and head spacing , and you should have no problems.

@jimbok68 3 года назад

It's all about trying to get people to buy the "newest great thing".

@kevinroberts9580 4 года назад

I would like to see you hand load 6.5 Grendel and 6 mm Arc with same weight bullets and see what you get. I'm sure you can get a 108 or 110 grain weight in 6.5 Grendel.

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 3 года назад

I don't have a 6mm ARC, yet, but I have a 20" Grendel and I tested the 6.5 100grain ELD against the Hornady ARC published data for a 100gn 6mm bullet with 2 separate powders and in all cases the Grendel velocity beat the hornady listed data for the ARC. See my video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0bsQxgeUCyo.html

@royhorn2782 2 года назад

Only issue is the BC for the AEC round will be better than that of the Grendel for the same bullet weight. I would be more concerned about which round would have the better hunting bullets. Grendel has a reputation for not opening /mushrooming properly on game animals. The AEC might have better hunting bullets available and increased bullet speed would help it open properly.