I would like to see a list of players who were world class for one club, transferred to another club and were trash, but after being transferred again became excellent players. Dennis Bergkamp and Thierry Henry come to mind (they were good at Ajax and Monaco, were awful in Italy before they came to Arsenal), but i'm sure there were more players like them
Lukaku - world class in his last season with Everton, then trash at United and world class with inter. Going back further, Ian rush was dominant with Liverpool, transferred to Italy and was abysmal, returned to Liverpool and won everything under the sun.
Spurs had our pants down for Ryan Mason. 8 appearances the previous season we go & pay £13 million 🤯 I know it all ended by unfortunate injury but he was never worth even half that.
Depending on how you judge his time at Barcelona, Griezmann could be one. World class at Atletico Madrid, then didnt keep it up at Barcelona and now he is back being brilliant for Atletico
I do feel for Cutrone, he didn’t want to leave Milan and Nuno was never going to play anyone other than Raul up front. Basically a confusing and disappointing transfer, basically 🤷🏻♂️
I totally agree, Flash has been a total success in my mind, doesn't deserve to be on the list, the narrator also says Harry Maguire doesn't deserve to be on the list. Paqueta does though
How is Andy Carroll not on this list???, half a decent season at Newcastle in 2010/11 before a January move to Liverpool for £35m which was a record fee for a British footballer at the time. He scored just 6 goals in 44 games before eventually leaving for West Ham.
He had just scored 11 in the first 19 league games for newcastle when he signed for liverpool, and was only 21 at the time Yes, he was overpriced, but when compared to perez, who scored 12 in 37 at the age of 26, he is less average than 7th on this list
Despite the fee and his time at Liverpool; he's too good a player to be on this list. Most of these were quickly free transfers after their flop moves and continued never display a scintilla of why the former club splashed any significant amount of cash.
Carroll went on to prpve his averageness after his transfer. At the time, liverpool thought they were paying for a player with decent potemtial. If west ham had paid the same for him as liverpool, hed likely be on here.
@@jackjude Don't be silly. Carroll had 1 half of a season worth note. He was garbage at Liverpool, garbage at West Ham, garbage at his 2nd spell at Newcastle, and garbage everywhere else. And all for a record transfer fee.... Sorry he is the most over priced player ever.
Worth noting too that Dwight McNeil has the same number of goals (7) and assists (3) this season as Gordon has managed his entire career lmao. McNeil is still only 23 as well, feels like he's been around forever.
@DJVm4GOD1 I'd also like to give Gordon time before calling him a flop, sincerely as a relegation stressed Toffee fan. He was algd for us but most certainly wasn't as good as he thinks he is. Interested to see how Howe can improve him.
Shoya Nakajima as a notable mention. Al-Duhail SC paid Portimonense €35m for him and then sold him to Porto for €12m 5 months and 7 games later. Porto then loaned him out and left on a free (getting sent of seconds into his debut for Antalyaspor).
Complete waste of money for him. He was never a big team player, his attitude was poor at best and he only came to FC Porto because his manager his close to Porto's board. I doubt any team would spend more than a handful of millions on him, if it wasn't for his agent connections.
@@onestepcloser06 He looked like a great RU-vid highlight player. From what I saw he was decent on the ball but went often missing. That period after Portimonese ruined his career. Going to Porto when they already had multiple options in his roles was a mistake. And you're correct, the agent connections were dodgy, the loan to Al Ain with a 40m option was ridiculous.
@Toonarmy he's a good squad player for where Newcastle are and obviously the money doesn't matter for you but as time goes on and you get better and better he will play less and less
I saw Jordan Ibe score a cracker in a pre-season friendly for Bournemouth against Cardiff and then he almost drove into me with his big car. That’s all I remember from his time at Bournemouth. It’s a shame to hear about his struggles in recent years and I hope he’s in a better frame of mind now.
Gordon was a shocking one that didnt make sense from the start, unless Newcastle were thinking of home grown points. Even so, apart from his footballing ability, his poor character and attitude at Everton was clear for all to see from his behaviour. Perez is a great example too, and it shows how much poor business Leicester have done alongside the good (they were seen as the best run club in England at one point). As a Wolves fan, that Cutrone deal still haunts us mentally to this day, at least Fabio Silva is now looking worth it though.
He’s just a shit Ross Barkley. Which is saying something. Says a lot about football clubs when they’d rather spend £45m to have homegrown players when they’ve all got academies full of them they can use for nothing.
Alfie, a suggestion for your "What on Earth is going on at" series (but that might take a long time because it's just the tip of the iceberg, so you might have to keep track and wait for a while): there's been investigations recently in Brazil regarding match-fixing schemes and illegal betting with football players here - even from Série A (1st division)
Day 4: 7 Best Loan moves ever. The loan moves that have greatly benefited the team receiving the player for a limited amount of time. While not exactly the best, I always think of Morientes to Monaco as an example. Shoutout to FM Mnager content creator Zealand who inspired me for that
More on Guido Carillo - he was well known to then manager Pellegrino, who managed him in Argentina. He convinced the board he was the real deal and was signed for him in January as we were bottom 3 at the time. He promptly looked like a headless chicken losing 0-3 on debut at Newcastle before Pellegrino was sacked the next day, so a pointless panic buy as hughes then Ralph didn't use him. Pellegrino was then manager at Elche where he ended up on a free.
Sounds sort of similar to a couple of January Transfers made except I'm not sure if they are as bad as Carillo or just don't fit into the squad since they seemingly have had success elsewhere.
To let you know for the future, as you have seemed interested in correct pronunciation for other languages, the double L in Spanish names and words, such as Carrillo, actually makes a "yuh" sound, as in "Cah-ree-yo". Also, this was another great video!
Anthony Gordon the poster boy for overpriced average players? With 21 goal involvements in his first full season at Newcastle, on the verge of being a regular with England and probably worth near double his transfer fee I think HITC may have spoke a tad too soon.
Conti and Caldara looked like they had potential after they did pretty good at Atalanta - Conti got derailed by injury and Caldara never developed, but they were simply bets that did not pan out. Bertolacci on the other hand was just a mystery even at that time.
Caldara è stato scambiato con Bonucci. Bertolacci è stato pagato così tanto perché avevamo detto alla Roma che riscattavano Mattia Destro senza mai farlo mentre Conti senza infortuni sarebbe stato un gran bel giocatore
Caldara was a necessary evil to offload the bigger flop Bonucci in a swap deal to Juventus. Both Caldara and Bonucci were valued at €35m, so it was more or less a straight swap, but saving Milan millions on Bonucci's salary. Nobody could know Caldara would be out injured for a decade afterwards.
Ah Danny Drinkwater. The first player on FM 19 that I had to loan for 3 seasons because he was underperforming even on the early stages of the FA Cup, until Derby County made a offer near the end of the contract for less than 1.5 million pounds.
I was just searching Anthony Gordon's stats that made him the same priced as Luis Diaz or Lucas Paqueta. And the people's channel heard my inner thought.
Too early to speak on Gordon. £40m is actually cheap for any above average English footballer these days. I get what people say about his behaviour, but he has that arrogance of a player who wants to be one of the best. I think with his personality he will work hard to improve himself as a player.
Alfie, you should do a series of videos that looks at the best football player born on each day of the year broken up into 12 videos one for each month. You could release the videos over an entire year with videos releasing on the first of their respective months to spread the videos out as well.
Are there ever repercussions against the people who make such costly decisions? Who gets the blame (the scouts? The person in the club responsible for transfers negotiations?) and do they lose their jobs because of it? Thanks for the video!
The scouts only notify the club about those promising players, the one who buy those players r usually the sporting director or maybe the manager of the team.
When people like Harry Rednapp are involved then under table payments are part of the buissnes. They love selling the players then buying them back. Keeps everyone in buissnes.
9 months ago I would've agreed with the Antony Gordon shout. But as of when I'm typing this, I think that he has been our best player with 18 G/A in a LW position which was originally meant for Barnes. If he keeps this up he could be an outside shout to get in the Euro Squad.
one player who deserve a mention in my opion would be Fiete Arp. he was an average young talant at HSV who got bought by Bayern just afer a few games the fee was only 4 million but the wages were insane. Fiete Arp made more money in 3 years playing 13 min for Bayern then players of his caliber make in theire whole carrer. An absolute stroke of geniuse by the player agent to get this deal.
Am I the only one that thinks Richarlison is ridiculously overhyped and overrated? He scored 5 goals in his single season in Watford and somehow Everton thought that warranted forking over £35mil for him. Then after not scoring more than 13 goals in any season in Merseyside, Spurs decide he's worth £60mil?! Seriously, if his name was Richardapolous or O'Richard instead of Richarlison, no one would pay more than £20mil for him
Well in the beggining he played much more as a wide player, he was fast and skilled, thats was reasonable stats and price for him, but sadly he already losing his speed, and is not that great finishing. Now hes done
a documentary of Borussia Dortmund and how they were extremely close to bankruptcy in 2002 time and how Bayern had to save them. The extreme difficulties the club has had to manage within to get back to where they are #thepeopleschannel
Bayern gave them a loan of 2 million when Dortmund had a debt of over 200 million. The only thing Bayern saved was the salaries of the staff and probably some player's wages. Still a kind gesture but they were far from the ones who saved the club
Very surprised Rhian Brewster didn’t get a mention, from Liverpool to Sheffield United for £23.5m was crazier than the Jordan Ibe transfer for me, don’t think he’s made much of a contribution at Sheffield unless I’m mistaken?
@@MADCHESTERUTD-ui3kq Brewster did have a very good half season on loan at Swansea under Steve Cooper scoring 10 goals in 20 appearances which fired Swansea to an unlikely place in the 2019-2020 Championship playoffs. He had looked the real deal during that time.
No mention of Dominic Solanke? signed for 20m by Bournemouth at a time when his record in top flight football across England and the Netherlands read as: 46 games, 8 goals, and his most recent season with Liverpool stood as a remarkable 21 games, 1 goal. Which has since expanded to a rather astonishing 118 games, 17 goals... keeping in mind this guy's a striker... Good in the championship, but you're not paying 20m in 2019 for a Championship quality striker.
might be too soon to say but fc augsburg forking out 16 million for ricardo pepi to have him play 4 games and then loaning him out to groningen still boggles my mind
How on earth is Rhian Brewster not on the list. £23 mil for sheff Utd. 0 goals in the prem, 3 goals next season, 1 goal the next. 4 goals in 2 years of the championship.
This is not a list of “average” players. The players covered here in many cases didn’t play much for their clubs and in some cases are not even in football anymore. If that’s “average” then that’s a sorry average. This was a list of “lesser known busts.”
Hello from the future. Gordon, when not injured, is somewhat class and one of Newcastles most consistent performers. Worth £45mil? I’d say maybe £40mil as it stands, so not far off.
I think he will come good. Conte only subbed him on in the 80th+ minute of games (Danjuma after 89 mins and Djed Spence not at all!) that's if he ever got on the field. He has looked sharp when coming on, gets in good positions, had a lot of goals chalked off for off-side. Just been a bit unlucky I think, we will see next season with a new manager.
Its too early yet to write off Anthony Gordon . As he has recently said his fitness hasnt yet matched the Newcastle team. Been playing in a crap Everton side.Eddie will have him as a class player nexr season .like he did with Joelinton
Same, although as a Leicester supporter he's been very frustrating to watch. He couldn't hit a barn door most of the time, but he always put in a shift off the ball. Definitely spent too much on him though.
Harry Maguire i don't care what anyone says no way was he worth the prize tag that Man Utd bought him from Leicester City and quite frankly has performed quite abysmally and been a constant liability in the Man Utd defence
Piątek is harsh. He was actually good at Genoa, and the half season in Milan after he joined in January. But then he fell out of favor because Ibrahimović, and then left to join the basket case of a club that is Hertha Berlin, who are basically the German Everton on steroids, and have 0 clue what they're doing. Sure, he was poor at Milan besides that half season, but so was the entire team. Hope he can revive his career elsewhere
We had our pants down with the Gordon transfer, just have to hope Eddie can transform him like he has done with other players. At least we can afford it now I guess lol
My thoughts instantly go to Taiwo Awoinyi, Jean-Philippe Gbamin and Abdul-Rahman Baba. All 3 have the same story: They played one good season for mid-tier to low-tier Bundesliga teams and then the Premier League was like "We need them and will play 20 Million Euros for him." Chelsea paid 26 Million for Baba in 2015, just to loan him out 7 times. He will return to Chelsea this summer... He played 23 games for Chelsea...
@@olanrewajumartins759 He actually scored twice this weekend... that makes a massive difference. It really does, since that 2 goals might keep Nottingham from relegation. But that also points out the massive inflation in the Premier League: If you pay 20 Million for a striker, that doesn't even score 10 goals, in any other league, it is considered a massive flop. Then again, bottom half teams can never spend that kind of fee...
I watched Wimmer play for spurs against Colchester in the FA Cup once. I have never seen a more one footed player in my life, he would twist his body into mad angles to make sure it was his left foot he was tackling with 💀
Until you'd see Erik Lamela in the same team. In his last season for us, at least until March he hadn't completed a pass with his right foot. Also scored 2 rabona's to avoid using his right foot lol
Gordon was 21 when signed by Newcastle, literally less than 6 months ago, and he's only had 4 starts. Seems unfair to rule him out already, and dangerous to underestimate Howe & co's ability to develop players - McNeil is about 18 months older i believe
Maybe a video about whats happening in sampdoria, only 3 games won in league whole season and only one at home. Theyre also gonna get relegated after staying 11 years in seria a
@@okflyaway99 those who say that are delusional, sterling carrying liverpool from getting out the top 10 in 2014/2015 and i didn't see Ibe doing the same.
Jordon Ibe - what can I say? I thought it was a ridiculous fee at the time, and despite a handful of performances that showed glimpses of his potential at Bournemouth, he was mostly a passenger. His fitness was an issue, but noises coming from Dean Court suggested that his attitude was a greater problem. It's worth saying that while Eddie Howe may seem like the loveliest guy in football, he can be very ruthless when it comes to players that don't fit with his method (see also Tyrone Mings and Jack Wilshere at Bournemouth - Matt Ritchie and Ryan Fraser (ironically) at Newcastle).
I disagree w Ayoze Pérez. I think Poot management never let him hit proper form. He used to play good games and started picking form and then get dropped to have Maddison play out of position in big games. Leicester really wasted his talent. I’m not saying he’s Spaniard Mbappe but definitely very talented and had games that showed that.
Great video! Cheered me up from simulating to 2050 in fm23 and seeing my Man Utd get relegated after have van Nistelrooj have his 4th stint at the club and take us down
Title unfair I’d say. There are no average footballers in the Prem, or the championship ……. I used to share a 5 a side pitch with a middle aged guy who ruled every game. He had stuff the rest of us simply didn’t possess - immaculate 1st touch and control, awareness, vision, passing ……. turned out in his younger years he was attached to Tranmere Rovers making a few first team appearances but generally playing for the reserves. Honestly this guy knew how to play football and my mind boggled at the level top flight players must perform. So I’ll repeat there are NO average players in the premier league. If you require further qualification pick up a copy of Fever Pitch by Nick Hornby and read the chapter titled Gus Caesar. Says it better than I can.
I think as we move into the realms of even the lower end premier league teams having huge transfer budgets some will take greater financial risks on trying to bring inunproven players with potential in the hopes it pays off. Obviously the clubs they are coming from will also want to try and get as much as they can from such deals.
Yhhh i mean Gordon, he wasn't bought for £45 million just for the one season was he. Considering that you are weighing up his stats against the fee that was paid for his services, I don't think that's a fair and accurate metric to review his progress and evaluate the return of the investment paid for him.
Basically anyone signed by Manchester United in the last decade, with minimal exceptions. Basically anyone signed by Chelsea in the last 5 years, with minimal exceptions. Emphasis on Mudryk.
I'm an everton fan I think gordon is overhated, yes his end product has always been poor and for that he probably isn't worth 45 million, but last season in an absolutely awful team and losing everyweek, he was still our best player every week and always posed a direct threat whenever he played. He also didn't directly contribute to the goals but the havoc he caused in opposition defenses caused spaces to open up for other players, and world class defenders like reece james have said he's a nightmare to play
Think Maguire is recency bias. And Maguire played well for Leicester, Hull and England. I find he has had horrid seasons, but he is not average by any means. We have seen too much quality from him.
@Matthias W Agreed. I dont know why the hate keeps coming. He's had a top career and obviously has ability if he plays for Man United and England. ETH has failed in getting him going again because he was very decent in his first year at United. And continues to be decent for England to this day.
@@bobbypukes605 I wouldnt say ETH failed him, ETH makes utd play a high line, which exposes players who are slow like maguire, the are just not a match and its not to blame from either side