Hey, i would, from my personal experience over the last three years, expand buying/trading used stuff. I started to go through my collection of old projects/boxes once or twice a year and try to be honest to myself and check if there's a real chance i'm gonna do these. Then i picked up everything where i said no (Harlequin-Force, Genestealers from DeathwatchOverkill, another Prospero-Box, a ImperialGuard force...) and sold all of them. On one side, i got a good price for most of it (most of it was bought on sales or with a big discount), i reduced my subconscious stress to work on these and got some money to invest in new (used) minis. I repeat this process from time to time and now i still have a big backlog, but 1) everything in there has a higher chance to be done 2) i'm again more familiar with what i have and 3) have a better overview what kitbash-projects could be possible. I even went the extramile and inventarised most of it, so in free minutes i can glance at my list and think about what i want to do next. This is a inward-focusing spiral that helped me a lot to continue and even finish some old projects and after that, i was able to reward myself with a fance new mini for example. Downside; i went a lot about classifieds and bought a few lots in the last years. All where a good bargain and i kept only a small percentage of it and sold the rest (got myself some of the DarkVengeance and BlackReach stuff this way for nearly 0$), but in the end i still got a few hundred new minis last year :D
One Page Rules. Beats spending a small fortune each year on the endless codex, supplement and campaign book releases. Not to mention not having to wade through all the white dwarf rules, errata, faqs and balance updates. Play with whatever models you have.
I've just discovered these rules and they seem ideal for me - I just can't keep up with gw financially or mentally these days. Hoping to convert a couple of friends over in the near future
Deadzone Warpath Maelstrom's Edge Star Breach Rogue Stars Zona Alfa Grimdark Future Grimdark Future: Firefight These are all quite good alternatives to 40k if you don't want to get buried by the cost of extra books. And many of them are miniature agnostic so you can use cheaper alternatives like Reaper, Wargames Atlantic, Khurasan Miniatures, and many many others!
Thanks for sharing! I’ve already got some Forge Fathers from Deadzone so might end up expanding on them one day. Also, I’m a long time subscriber to OPR but never got round to playing Grimdark future, although I keep promising to!
@@BenjisHobbies There are also a lot of fantasy options. Oathmark is more of the old Warhammer Fantasy with the rank and flank parts for those who miss it. Dragon Rampant is wonderful for something closer to AoS for what you use, but it also has capabilities that could work for classic fantasy if you want it while being exceedingly versatile Warlords of Erehwon is another good one. You could even go smaller force sizes with Frostgrave.
I recently returned to the hobby after leaving just before 4th edition 40K. FOMO has no power over me, I've missed nearly 20 years. I just browse eBay or 3D printing sites for cool looking models I can mod/kitbash and paint. Still got my Dark Eldar and Tau so on the very rare occasion a buddy of mine can play a game with me we do 3rd Edition 40K because that's what we know.
This is exactly the best way to play! Play with the models and rules that you have! There’s no need for the latest releases/newest books to play with and have a good time!
Mine tip is that yoy have everythig (except of paint and static grass) to build really good bases, check your kitchen snd garage. Dont buy a small jar of adteogranite for 6$ use pva, flour and coffea
I've definetely paused my purchasing and you know what? I've been having a blast with my Blood bowl and Blackstone Fortress box sets. Amost finished and soon I will have two new games to play! Plus, they're games that don't need like 3 rule books just to play and friends can easily pick it up to join. Going forward I don't think I will purchase anything from GW that doesn't include everything I need in the box.
Absolutely this! I’ve got so many boxes that I KNOW I’d have fun with if I got round to painting it, but the constant tide of new stuff always makes it feel like you have to move on to the next thing. Going through my pile made me realise I had so much stuff I’m excited to paint, I’d just forgotten about it!
@@BenjisHobbies Exactly! Between Blood Bowl, Blackstone Fortress, and Kill Team, I'm set with three games that will last me quite a while until I see something that really impresses me. I will stick to these box set games for now. 40k is too bloated for my liking in its current form, and between the (unnecessary) price increase and the constant fomo, I just don't want to support their bad behavior. Would love to see you drop some videos appreciating stuff that you already have! I'm sure its easy to get sucked into the cycle being a youtuber trying to cover whats new and hot, but you could certainly garner some love reminding people to enjoy (and probably finish) stuff they've already paid for. I watched Ninjon's latest video this morning covering his pile of shame, and while I absolutely love the guy it made me very thankful that I don't have boxes and boxes of untouched stuff. Lmao
Good ideas man - something I've been trying to do for the last few months is "be honest about what and how you play". If you only play skirmish games, why be distracted by the big shiny boxes with more models than you'll ever need? If you play the big army games, why buy models from a new faction when you haven't finished your old army yet? I am definitely guilty of it and I've found that change in mindset helpful!
Exactly this! I’m way more selective over what I buy now. Unless I’m going to start painting it in the next week or so I hold off - in the vast majority of cases it’ll still be available then anyway!
Many public libraries are providing 3D printers for people to use. In the public library in my town, you can send them a stl file, they put you on a waiting list, call you when they are done, you pick them up and pay a small fee.
3d printer investment intensifies and I drop GW rulesets for One Page Rules, Kings of War and other games.. no sweat off my back because they finally aggravated me enough to go to the exit over the past year. They are certainly not the only game in town anymore and 3d printing will eventually be the death of them.. good riddance
Play Kill Team and don't play 40k. Fielding 10-14 models is a lot more attractive. Also buying Patrol boxes for Kill team is great after selling the vehicles in boxes. Got Plague Marine box for 5 dollars w/ Plague Champion from plaguefester warband after selling the vehicles. Got 21 new orks from Combat Patrol box after selling dredd, copters, bossnob for 3 dollars, box was also 25% off. Join all the warhammer FB groups in your local area, got Tau start collecting box on spru for 20 bucks. Warhammer can be reasonable if you put in a little work.
1 - Don't buy Games Workshop. 2 - Get into Star Wars Legion 3 - Bolt Action 4 - Kings of War. All a lot better games than 40k or AOS (I'm a huge AOS fan). I've got a metric shit ton of minis that need painting and i'll post up photos on the faceache site shortly. I'm also, like many others, a collector so the backlog builds up. But, DON'T BE ASHAMED lol. I use an Ender Pro 2 3d printer which has saved me on terrain, Star Wars Legion vehicles and terrain, and tanks and buildings for Bolt Action. However, it's storage space. Money saving tips: Use Really Useful Boxes. Buy magnets and store minis that way instead of expensive Feldherr or KR Multicase cases and foam. But foam from Boyes or another furniture store, it may not look the dogs danglies, but it does the bloody job :)
You can save a bit on basing and terrain building stuff by rummaging around your local cemetery, especially if you want some free electronics for a sci fi build.
@@BenjisHobbies aye, apart from all the florists stuff being thrown in bins, you've got decorative aggregates, sand and if you walk through at night, it's like Blackpool illuminations with all the fairy lights twinkling. Get Luke to take you one night, he knows how not to pay for stuff 😂
Similar to what you said, but; Don't go buying anything to beat the price increase if you wasn't actually going to buy it to begin with. Much like people buying stuff in sales (such as TVs being reduced), if you never planned to buy it to begin with then it isn't actually saving you any money.
Great tips, all. I also recommend Bolt Action, as well as Flames of War, as great alternative wargames. They're both dirt cheap to get into, fun to build, paint and play, and have a great community to support them. As for other suggestions, how about repainting your existing minis to give them a fresh lease of life. As your painting skills improve there are always minis you have that could be looked at again.
@@pinoarias8601 I wouldn't recommend one of the starter sets as they're really misnamed. That's a full army in a box and not really a starter at all. Grab one of the two player starter sets (Band of Brothers or Island Assault) or a box of Infantry for whichever nation you prefer. The infantry boxes have 30+ models for dirt cheap, more than enough for 2-5 squads, a HQ and a couple of 2 man teams. The starter armies are really "here's step 2, all in one box".
I got both of the SW Legion core sets cheap on 4/5 and whilst the minis look great some of them are so much trickier to build than GW models. I’m looking at you battle droids!
@@matthangzhou-nq4ew There is a trick to the B1s. Step 1: base paint and 1st highlight on the sprue. Step 2: Glue arms to gun arms, and front of heads to back of heads leave the back on the head and the arm holding the gun on the sprue for now. Step 3: Trim bodies and legs from sprue, and glue bodies to legs. Step 4: Glue assembled bodies and legs to bases. Step 5: Trim gun arms from sprue, and glue to bodies. With the gun arms glued together already in step 2 they should friction hold on the bodies. Step 6: Trime heads from sprue and glue to bodies. Step 7: Tuch up paint from were you trimmed from sprue and paint till your harts content.
Can confirm that second hand miniatures stores are a great source of models. I got somewhere in the ballpark of 1000 pts of Dark Angels from a site called Mindtaker Miniatures, for a huge discount. They've always got more models coming in, and some often can be had for a steal (especially if you're willing to put some work in repairing them or replacing missing parts). Indeed, I often need to stop myself from buying from them all the time, as I would definitely purchase miniatures faster than I can paint them.
Huzzah for #fauxhammer, #poorhammer, and #oldhammer. I am a big fan or proxies and counts-as models. Wargames Atlantic cannon fodder for my renegade imperial guard, for one. The first rule of the Hobby, is "Have fun." The second rule is "Your hobby, your way." Don't let any company tell you how to play with your own toys. There is no implied contract to buying miniatures, "Oh no! You can't do THAT! You can't paint these in THOSE colors!" etc.
Try out Reign in Hell as another wargame option. The rulebook is rather cheap, and it is miniature agnostic, so you can use whatever you want/have on hand! :D
3D printing is only a money save in the long run. And currently, printer prices are going up too. Biggest advantage is that you can make other things than models too.
Numbers 4 and 5 are also my go-to strats. That said, SW: Legion got its own price increase just recently, and they certainly aren't cheap models, even compared to GW. The thing they have going for them is you can build them faster and the game uses less models. Just as a heads-up.
I was just watching this casualty in the back ground as I was cleaning my room and I heard the mention of a shop in Grimsby and I thought hey i get my stuff there , and it's a different shop iv never visited and low and behold it's a shop my dad use to take me to after visiting specsavers, I do believe the shop has changed hands now ,it use to be full of hornesby train stuff and ww2 air fix stuff , I still have a starwars card game I beg for when I was around 12 years old (23 now) and tomorrow I'm heading there to get some 40k stuff , On a further note if anyone does intend to go to grimsby for grimdice look for the grimsby institute office its right next to it the other store in the are literally 5 minutes form this one can be found 2 short streets away the store is Simply called Warhammer, the manager Jim is an absolute top bloke with plenty of great advice and information so be sure to pop in and say high get a new brush or grab a technical your almost out off , Ladies and Gentlemen our hobby stores need our patronage after the pandemic so I always go in and buy something even if I don't need Flash gitz yellow for ultra marines the shops need us like we need them , That is all, thanks for reading kind regards S.Easters
I'm thinking about doing a kings of war ork army and converting them into a 40I army. Nice unique orks with a 3d printed warboss I think could be a nice unique army.
There are a staggering number of skirmish rulesets available. We are spoiled for choice. You could play a different game a day for a couple of years before looking for new games.
Modelbox in the UK is a good subscription that provides a mix of paints models and basing material. It's definitely scratched the building and painting itch
Meh!! Printing your own mini's, not cheaper. There are a bunch of costs which people invariably fail to account for only ever really costing the STL purchase. Reigning in your spending is good but better to plan your next spend because you have the anticipation and a reason not to buy other stuff. For me GW Aeldari is the target. I have a plethora of alternate games, a lot of which I supplemented the 2nds. I have bought less that way because the conventions were closed. Always good to listen to this kind of info though, good pitch.
I think I covered off some of these points in the video - yes there are other costs with 3D printing but it’s definitely cheaper in the long run than buying minis. Spending on what you really want should be a focus rather than buying everything or picking up the hype boxes.
Its bad enough we went from 10 to 5…3 now one is the new boxed models. The value is not there in their merchandise 3000% increase since the birth of this game/hobby no not interested
Brrrrrr This is all I do now tbh. Outside of some Knight Models stuff that is as I love to paint their models and the game is fun :-) (Batman Miniatures Game) I support independent creators, small companies and hell even bigger companies are setting out with STLs the future is now.
@@BenjisHobbies any and all terrain can be build without buying stuff. Gang modelcount is low and can be converted from almost any manufacturer .. as long you don't wanne play tournements
+1 for 3D printing and trying other games, specifically the ones my OnePageRules. Saved me tons of money and honestly, I think the OnePageRules games are more fun than the GW equivalents. Can't beat free.
@@BenjisHobbies true i am only familiar with the marvel one by name only, and have been a battletech player since the late 90s... the rest i have never heard of
well me have just a had full of IGs to do fore my back log as say it and had full to re do or fix up but liie get just one box set that an IG one and now got exsta bits to kit bash and have fun and yes one more manfater like get fore my IG girls thats brother vinny last 10 minis that like get got call nobel knights see if got it and how mutch its going to be yes fore fun it and i get to boring non GW minis got to do
The only people who can't 3D print their armies for Warhammer are the people who play at GW stores and the people who go to tournaments. Most hobby stores where you can play aren't going to complain as long as they can tell what it is. It's not like they can get GW stock in the store anyway, so they're not going to make sales off of what you have.
I kinda get what you’re saying, but I see full 3D printed armies in a hobby shop a little like taking your own coffee and sitting in a cafe to drink it. They might not say anything, but I bet they don’t like it. I’m not sure why you’re saying that stores can’t get GW stock? All of my local and favourite stores stock GW products.
@@BenjisHobbies All of my local game stores can only seem to get the new releases in no matter how much they order. They're still sitting on orders from last year.
@@brother_bear_hobbies whilst I appreciate you commenting, it’s bordering on you telling me what games I should enjoy. If people want to buy GW, just let them! It doesn’t effect what you do at all.
@@blitzme99 yeh, sorry to burst your bubble but it has nothing to do with profits going down. It’ll be down to raw material costs, energy prices, transport and freight costs and wages and national insurance contributions going up in the U.K. in April.
Befriend a recaster! 😂 Russia has some good ones...if anybody needs a good place to start looking. I just got a dreadnought that's amazing 🤩 quality! And I'm going back in for more!
The price increases are bullsh**. If you look at GW’s Semi-annual earning reports. You can see that they’re roughly still paying the same for their ability to produce and that’s increased maybe 1-2%. Increasing their prices 5%, which has also been increasing over several years. Their just price gouging at this point. Feel like they’re just trying to see how much of a profit they can make off people or how much people are really willing to pay. Just ridiculous. Did see a nice video breaking down their earning reports tho. Which was nice ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xmOX0Y-AjWc.html
That’s completely ignoring the increasing price of raw materials, Brexit, increased transport cost, global freight prices, SIGNIFICANTLY increasing power costs, giving their staff pay increases, increased minimum wage in the U.K. starting from April… but of course it’s all ‘bullshit’ because another RU-vidr said it was 🙄
A printer isn’t thousands. The cheapest one I’ve linked is currently £140. I even mention in the video that the one I’m using is £240 and probably comes in cheaper than buying a full Warhammer army.
@@BenjisHobbies Dont get me wrong I agree with all your point in the video. The Printer one just rubs me wrong. In my book maintenance and all the costs come along dont cut it. I strongly encourade 2nd hand stuff.
I get 3d printing isn't for everyone and each to their own but why does everyone jump straight to thousands its no where near that . A set up with eveything you need including a decent mono screen printer and a wash/ station will cost 300 tops
I will have spent less with 3D printing this year than I spent on GW last year....and that's with half of it being upfront cost of the print station. Now that it's set up the savings are immense. Three Plagueburst Crawlers for $150, how about 3 Maggot Mortars for under $30. While 3D printing isn't for everyone due to space, safety caution, my biggest issue Resiliency, etc..., when it comes to price, printing wins in the long run.
Honestly, aside from 1 & 2 these all could easily become ways to spend more money ... I guess technically you'll be spending less on Warhammer tho, so technicallycorrect.gif
