The high precision of the lock manufacturing tho... In theory if somehow they could manufacture an exactly precise pins and holes there's no way it can be lockpicked that way. We're using the fact that they can never make and exactly the same pins to pick the lock.
For what it's worth, Bill has repeatedly described LPL as an absolute masterclass. "A talent that comes around once a generation" I believe were his words.
10 to 20 bucks here in Germany. Something for inner doors or office doors. Here it is called " Standard Profilzylinder " Keys for that can be copied in every DIY - store in Germany.
The man even compliments the lock makers for the excellent tolerances. He picked the lock, yet he aknowledged the craftmanship. That speaks volumes of him. Guess Bill didn't shoot him in the leg after all.
LPL has publicly said he uses as heavy tension as possible and that the advice of using as little as possible is essentially bs and given his track record I believe him lol.
LPL stated in one of his videos that he had tendinitis from tensioning and switched to his offset (bent) tensioning wrenches as a result. So yes that would be a lot of tension!
The shape of the keyway is what makes this one particularly wild- not the shape of the lock itself. Yours is most likely a schlage key, google a typical schlage key and see if it looks like yours! ;)
I know your reply was 11 months ago,but I felt the need to reply...lmfao! I have one of those "special locks" (not this one,but a 'Padlock') for my Harley when I tow it to Daytona every year. The Lock company's brochure bragged about its durability &'unlockpickyness'(lol,my 4yr old childs word,lol). Lock pick Lawyer picked my lock in under a minute. I hope your Lock is still Locked & secure! Cheers from New Zealand!
So I started lockpicking two days ago. This exact model is one of the five locks I found in our basement. Now I dont feel so bad for not getting it to open. Thx for the info xD
@@nighthunter3039 yeah it's all upside down in the US if it comes to locks as far as I know... In Europe most of the cylinders and their casings are in doors 180 degrees turned...
So from all the videos of yours I've watched, that seems like the very best way to make a pick resistant lock is just by making a lock very very well. The security features and anti-picking tricks seem to have less of an impact than really good tolerances and really precise machining.
I also found BKS locks generally hard to pick, yet when I took them apart, there was nothing special inside. I also attributed it to particularly precise production, specially since it’s a common theme with BKS locks.
I think the many clicks is because of the master wafers. You actually have 10 possible "set" positions. Think BB only uses light tension it seem like LPL heavy tension preference is much more effective.
I know zip about picking locks, but looking at the parts (and knowing how the lock has to move), that was my thinking exactly. Gotta pop up both the master wafers and the spools. (Note to self: if ever designing a lock, add master wafers to all pins, just to increase pick time.)
@@ScottKenny1978 I also know nothing about lock picking, so I very well could be wrong here, but I believe the master wafers actually just create two sheer lines in the slot they are in, so it wouldn't actually make picking take any longer as it's not a false set, but two proper sets (one for the key that comes with the lock, another for a master key that unlocks many locks in a set). I think just using spools in every slot would probably be much better for increasing picking time.
so true, I see those tension bars bending almost in half, his finger going white from all the pressure... im like OHHHH this is what I was doing wrong!
Might be people like me, I like Bills videos better, but it is obvious that LPL has a bit more skill. I'm not sure that all of Bills viewers understand that he has never claimed to be the best. I'm hoping that LPL will need to Ramset at least one lock
Euro locks are usually mounted with the round part up, so what you call "top of the keyway" is actually the bottom. I think picking a euro lock with the round part up may be a bit more difficult because the set pins won't fall down from gravity.
aszi88 i also picked this up. Euro is almost always upside down, and much harder in my opinion to pick. The other real life scenarios not taken into account is the door or the door jamb, and a client who has been standing in the cold for an hour waiting for me to arrive! Ive had plenty of locks that I could have picked but had to drill open or choose another door because I haven’t been able to get in the right stance in front of the door. Having said all that, he’s got better picking skills than me any day of the week!
@@Wyninka Locks are installed with the bitting/pins at the top in Australia, too. Euro profile cylinders aren't common here, based on what I've seen, but even those are mounted the same way.
@@Wyninka not always, but usually. My front door, for instance, has a deadbolt and a locking doorknob. The deadbolt has the pins on top, the knob lock has them on the bottom.
@@kdarkwynde From what I understand, having the bitting on top allows the pins to still fall into place by gravity if a spring breaks and gravity keeps most dust and water out of the pins. With the bitting down, the lock may fail immediately if the spring snaps or has other mechanical issues. Down is more likely to be noticed quickly and forces a repair, up is more likely to have a longer duty cycle without requiring repairs to continue functioning. In the case of most doors I've seen where there is one of each, it is usually explained by do-it-yourselfers replacing it either without knowing or caring why it (can) matter. I don't know if there is a higher ratio of DIY in US vs EU, but most homes have the lock installed by the contractor, not a specialty locksmith, so it is more likely just based on general practices.
lol, thats exactly the lock that is guarding my flat. It's quite shocking that a standard/avarage german doorlock is in a naughty bucket list. I'd love to see him tackle a BKS Janus or an ABUS Bravus 4000. Those are high security german locks.
@@peak0iler they create a second shear line for certain pins so that you can have two different keys open it, one key specifically for the lock and one master key for it and any other locks the master key should open.
Back in my early days of manufacturing, I used to build the doors that house these barrel type locks. There's an even more hilarious design flaw to this lock and handle setup. The only thing that really saves the whole setup is that they're usually used in conjunction with a 5 to 7 point roller cam and shoot-bolt door strap. That lock is what we'd call a 60/40.
"Bill graciously allowed me to select several locks from his naughty bucket" You forgot the part where he shot you in the leg... but at least he let you choose _which_ leg to shoot you in. How gracious of him. 😉
Just gonna say its nice to see you are human. Usually you walk breeze thru every lock you come across, but I do understand its just defeating a mechanical devise. I really enjoy your content keep it up.
My comment is just that you continue to amaze me how nice and methodical The Narrative is that you add to your video It's So explanatory I Can't Take My Eyes away I love how you show us step-by-step what their names and each procedure and the names of your picks that you choose and the reasons why you choose them it's just so so informative I cannot stop watching them thank you again just a loyal viewer that's all
If Bill hasn't watched the video, it might be worth giving him back the lock to retry picking blind (or semi blind). See if he is able to do it again, and how much trouble it will give him throughout. That way you can probably figure out the reason he was having trouble along with an idea of how tough the lock actually is.
I always remember the other lockpickinglawyer video (i think that it was him) where he discusses picking around the warding of locks like this. I remember in the video where they are describing this lock, he says that the lock ate a bunch of very small picks. I think that he was trying to pick up and around the warding where LPL just went up through the warding. This technique has been extremely helpful for locks that have very extreme bitting.
People need to understand that just because lpl opens a lock it in no way means it was easy. He is very skilled and has a lot of experience from countless hours of intentionally honing his craft and expertise. Bill is great too. Imo it doesn't take away from his skills in any way.
The mushroom top pins could have been why he was having trouble possibly. only thing i could put it down to though i havent been doing locksmithing as long as you mate lol.
7:58 Am I the only one that's wildly impressed with the sharpness of the BACKSIDE of that knife tip? I mean, wow.... nice knife, LpL. Lol. Grats on the pick as well. ;)
with watching this channel for a few weeks i sure learned alot about locks and even started picking myself for the fun of it, i am able to open some reletivly cheap master locks now and able to share knowledge with family members to think twice now about what locks to buy due to how easy some locks really are
When I was young I was able to pick home door w/ some card... Frequenty too, since I tended to forget my keys... Can't any more, it seems, while door's still the same 😭
SKF lock type, precise lock. these come in 3 different types category. Indicated with 1, 2 or 3 stars. Front door pull back protection included on the 3 star locks. They are a pain in the ... We usually drill them out, or force the entire lock.
I've noticed something in common on all these LPL videos: putting tension on the lock before picking it. So here's an idea: design a lock so the face of the cylinder for a few mm deep spins freely so that a lock-picker can't put tension on the cylinder without interfering with access to the pins. And also design the cylinder in sections so that each section of the cylinder spins freely so that even if you put tension on the outer part of the cylinder that the inner part of the cylinder isn't under tension -- that would be very difficult to pick.
Hey, I’m not sure if you still care, but the channel “stuff made here” machines a prototype of exactly that, AND lpl has done a review on that prototype
@@dennisthechemist4413 I saw that. I subscribe to SMH. LPL had no problem whatsoever picking SMH's lock, lol. The only lock that LPL can't pick (yet) is the Bowley lock.
Actually it isn't necessary to bend the C-clip that much: Just bend it a bit and pull out the core a few millimetres until the c-clip falls out (also no need to bend the nose in the actuator). Now it is possible to remove the actuator + clutch. The lock is a BKS Serie 31 (Tandem-E keyway), produced from the mid 90s till the early 2000s. The design of this cylinder has remained unchanged (except for the keyway) since the 1960s despite minor changes to the clutch and pins.
this certainly shows to me that everyone has their own individual and unique flair, style, subtleties, and finess no matter what 'skill level' they are at. Even when seemingly even matched. One man's naughty bucket lock can be another's Masterlock, and of course, Vis a Verse.
My son & I just spent a couple of hours trying to pick a similar BKS lock which my father-in-law had lost the last key for, the main difference from this model was the keyway which was even more zig-zag/bent, i.e. there is no straight line path to any of the pins so we tried to pick them up sideways, from halfway up the keyway, and we found all (most?) of them but we were not able to pick it. This meant that it was time to start drilling it out, and I was not surprised to discover that it was also quite drill resistant. I.e. two broken drill bits so far, less than halfway into the core. :-)
1:56 "Click out of 2, another click out of 2, ok 2 feels good" How do you know when to try a 2nd click, and how do you know when "it feels good" ? Thx for your work, it's awesome, I love it, you're the Bob Ross of locks :D
I'd like to know, too, how He knows how many turns of picking a lock will need until picked... He seems to know in advance. I assume I'd just go and go on and miss the opening point entirely...
Seeing the zig zag on the thumbnail made me realise how similar LPL and Vi Hart are. Both experts at things that people wouldn't normally want to hear about with very steady voices but not without jokes either, only showing their hands and their workspace with a seemingly easy setup and extreme dedication.
I love this channel....I started picking when I was young....locking my moms(school teacher) cabinets that don't have keys....well if u lock them well u have to figure out how to un lock them
I am feeling so much safer right now, BKS are pretty common door locks where I live and my entire multi flat house is fitted with them. If even a "low security" version is that hard to pick, I would guess no burglar is using picks to get in here!
I guess it was just dumb luck that you were the first lock picking host I found because you’re the best bro! I have watched Bosnianbill too and he’s good as well. You’re just a talented devil. LOL Great job, as always!
The muscle memory on this guy. Look at how his middle finger rides higher and higher on the pick when he switches pins. He pulls his middle finger back about the right amount, and then pushes the pick in until his middle finger is against the front of the lock for support. Clearly without even thinking about it.
It’s a euro but not the one I’ve sent in 😁 still no luck with our euro ? The one with steel hanging out each side ! That’s to prevent lock pulling .. not snapping by the way, Nicely picked like a pro 😛
8:03 the way the lights flickered was because the evil got released lol Can't tell if you did this on editong or was a genuine coincidence or practical effect
This is the standard lock we have where I work. Sometimes we have to drill them when keys are lost. Some will drill in short order and others are a pain in the butt. I would like to see what the other side has and what prevents a key from operating the lock from both sides at once.
The last is in the making. You can have cylinders that can bei accessed and turned from both sides ( unless too short), but they are more expensive. Would've saved me some money, though😢
Yes, these locks are ridiculously good. I have two of them in my practice box and I have not been able to open them thusfar. The ones I have are from 'NEMEF'. Quality is very comparable.
There is a type of captive key lock that i used while in the navy because of the design you couldn't get a bolt cutter to the shackle it looked kinda like an old TV ufo but I loved it. I think the manufacturer was master lock.
I have noticed LPL uses alot of tension on locks. I always thought doing so bound cores on locks with tight tolerances. I guess this goes to show if light to medium tension fails, resort to bending your tension tools :D Way to go LPL.
Thanks to you LPL I'm eagerly awaiting the arrival of my first lockpick set! I ordered a cutaway lock as well so hopefully I'll learn a thing or two. I've also got some spare old locks lying around that I can't wait to practice on. Thanks again for your fantastic videos!
LPL would probably be the best thief in a D&D session. He'd be the guy identifying and disarming every trap and opening any form of locks that may obstruct the party.
This one took longer than most. I can see why Bill had trouble. Patience, and a good feel are essential. I'd think, "in the field" this lock is pretty much un-pickable. Took our man awhile, even under Perfect conditions.
I´d say it gives quite some resistance. People want maximum security but maybe one day you are alone at home, passed out and the roof is on fire. You want the rescuers still be able to overcome the lock before the morning comes, and you crumble to ashes.
I also have a BKS lock here, which I never managed to pick thus far. Some time ago I had a bunch of them and all of them were pretty difficult to pick. They make excellent locks.
Its a Euro profile cylinder, there's much quicker ways of defeating it - if you dont mind buying a new lock barrel. I'd doubt a locksmith in the UK would even bother attempting to pick it open for a customer.
3:30 LPL: And we've got this open. Bosnian Bill: 😳😱 6:07 LPL: "Maybe this was not a challenge" Bosnian Bill: 🤬🤬🤬 Bosnian Bill remembering that LPL is his business partner: 😁😀😇🤓🥳
Guessing the extra clicks were either accidentally hitting the warding or picking to the other side of the master wafer. Impressive picking skills as always!