If you resist damage 100% it means you're immune, but if you're restrained struggling 100% doesnt mean you're free, so 100% resistance could go either way
It might be opened by an expert in his lab, but that does not mean its not pick proof from an average picker at an actual door (with limited time and not knowing the lock and key).
I have one minor and one major remark: the eurocylinder is usually mounted upside down. But it also needs a full rotation or two, to actually unlock. Half rotation is needed to just engage the lever, while you left it in 90° position
If you would be able to get your hands on a matco toolbox, I would love to see you try to pick it. You have to push in against spring pressure to turn the key. If you couldn’t find one, I could try to get an extra and send it in
Yes. When I move between pins, I ride my pick on the pin I just picked. That makes it fairly obvious when I can’t reach a pin. That’s one of the reasons I always go front to back. 👍
Amazing tip. I've accidentally done that a few times while counting pins, will remember to do it purposefully in the future
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This comment is pure gold ! So what made you realized you didn’t touched four was that when you came into contact with five it was way too far from three to be four ?
Been watching a lot off your videos My first comment The man that made art and spectacle of picking the locks My huge respect to that man He goes through the locks like squirrel through the nuts 😆 Thank you for your great videos
Nice to see a Czech lock having been in the naughty bucket. I think I'll soon contact you, I've got some Tokoz to send your way. They are largish padlocks, and they are the things from them people know here. I believe the company entered the europrofile market only quite recently.
I feel like LPL is on a whole different level of skill than Bill. He opened most of bills naughty bucket locks in under a minute. Anything LPL can't open Bill will never open.
@@ButterBallTheOpossum "I feel like LPL is on a whole different level of skill than Bill." feelings are irrational thats why u "feel" that. Bill chanel have completly different format, LPL is doing only short movies after he allready found solution to the "problem".
Haha, I like how you're saying that this was a tricky lock to pick, especially with this lock being a naughty bucket one, but you pick it in 2 minutes flat. Great job and video!
European locks are mounted the other way, with pins being pushed down rather than up. I wonder if their anti-picking measures can't be designed for that and if you're not bypassing them by picking the lock upside down.
Not necessarily. It might requiring a bit more finagling, but I’m sure that for lpl he’d have no problems since he’s shown capability with both top and bottom key way tension
New subscriber with quick question; Were you born with a set of picks in one hand & a tension bar in the other? You make picking locks seem like child's play. Lock manufacturers must really hate you...
id say its probably give and take, on one hand he shows how to pick a lock, on the other hand some companies have sent him locks to test before they release him to get input
It's a bit depressing to go back to picking after watching his videos as a beginner 😅 feels like my cheep training locks are much more difficult than his security ones
@@japascho One thing to keep in mind - he may spend several hours learning how to pick the lock before making a video of the process. All that time is not shown. Also, he has many years of practice. Picking locks sometimes requires a very fine touch/feel. It takes time to develop sensitivity to slight changes in position or pressure.
@@leechowning2712 On the other hand I remember seeing a video with a rather tricky lock that he had to battle with for 4 hours... (The video itself was quite a bit shorter of course.)
Hi Harry, Interesting lock, certainly a variation on wafers. I guess they could be Master Keyed using smaller wafers between top and bottom wafers ...? No lip on the front of the core could leave it vulnerable. Regards, Brian.
I think the key was using that deeper hook and not over setting #3 wafer. Good job. Lol, I'm talking like i know what I'm talking about. I just started this hobby a few months ago thanks to Mr Bills inspiration. I thought i was doing pretty good until i started using a vice to hold the locks and now it feels like i am starting all over again. Lol.
FYI you messed up while reading the TOKOZ catalog. The TECH cylinder is not the one they say is 100% pickproof (they have it listed as highly resistant). The lockpicking/bumping proof one is the PRO 300/400 cylinder which uses rotating discs locking mechanism.
@@Golegoth I have picked locks in both orientations and have not noticed any difference in overset feel or clearing. The weights of the pins are so much less than the pressure applied by the springs that it doesn't matter. But that would certainly be an idea to try in a challenge lock. It would require some very fine tuning of spring pressures to make a difference.
Very interesting Mr. LPL -- Never seen anything like it. Thanks for showing it to us, + thanks for showing us your understanding of the lock and how to pick it.
Since the core slides out towards the back, doesn't this make the lock vulnerable to sliding a shim between the core and the cylinder from the front? @LockPickingLawyer Maybe something to try if you still have the lock.
I was just thinking the same thing, it looks ripe for a shim picking. The tolerances do look quite tight though. I've never shim picked a wafer lock or even considered it, maybe it would be a tricky process but at least in theory it should work like a pin tumbler lock... I would love to know if this lock is susceptible to that form of attack.
Just watched the video on Bill's channel. The locks were in the range of a few months to a few years being in there, but every one stumped him for a dozen hours or more of picking attempts as I recall.
eeeeeh, that keyway doesn't look too bad... unless it is extremely paracentric and I missed it. It never ceases to amaze me just how much tension you put on those locks, dayum... (DISASSEMBLY) It's a waver lock?! okay did not see that coming...
Meanwhile LPL and Bill making videos on yt about picking locks Me trying to pick a lock, Mother sees me doing something with a lock which is locking nothing. Flying shoe coming towards my face. 😂
I have a better version of this on a storage room in my building. I have the Tokoz 400 pro (a little more than 2x the price of this one) and it's a beast. People have tried to break in to it in the past, they tried to smash it, drill it, etc. No one's come close. About a year ago we installed cameras and a security system at the front door, and no more attempts have been made 😁 But I have to say that I'm pretty happy with this brand.
Instead of using a magnet to get the wafers out of the core, use a pair of tweezers with fine points. That way you don't run the risk of magnetizing the wafers. Of course, the wafers could just as easily be brass, in which case magnetism is not a problem.
What about a tokoz 400 pro? I've seen a pick on yt but I would like you to take a shot at it as your presentation is superb. The 400 has a special locking mechanism plus coupling so they claim, that you can lock it from the inside and not even open it with a key.
Hey, can you shim this lock. Slide a shim inbetween the cylinder and bible?. I didn't see and counter sinking or overlap to prevent a thin shim from being slid down on the shear line keeping the key and driver waffers from interacting. It may be too tight of a tolerance, but that may work.
0:50 - "I will certainly take this apart to show you what's inside toward the end of the video." 01:40 - actually starts picking the unpickable lock. That's not arrogance, that is supreme confidence.
Except he’s picked it before making the video, so it’s not just him saying “yeah I’ll take it apart” without knowing that he’ll actually get to that point. He already knows he can pick it.
Bad locks get put in the naughty bucket. If I would try to say that with anything other than a normal talking voice and a straight face,I would have lost it.
"okay we hit 4 and dropped into a false set" you mean you hit pin 4 and fell down the stairs smashing a vase and killing a cat along the way into a false set every other click to me was so quiet I didn't hear it and then this false set comes out of nowhere and it's loud enough to unlock all of the doors in a postal code radius of your home
Not sure why RU-vid recommended me this 1-year-old video today... but I have to say TOKOZ 300-series are not being marketed as 100% resistant (at least not in Czech Republic where they are being made). However they have the PRO 400-series which ARE being marketed as 100% resistant to lockpicking...
Technically speaking, "100% protection against picking" doesn't mean 100% pick proof, it just means it's the maximum amount of protection against picking that is possible.
Maybe a stupid question But since the cylinder exits the housing from front to back, instead of back through the front. Have you tried shimming the lock?
In a recent video -- probably a Naughty Bucket lock -- LPL said it took him three hours to pick the lock the first time. So I think he has to practice on some of them. On the other extreme was the plastic and Chinesium piece of shit that he broke open with a screwdriver. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bIJCYT7npi0.html
chefgav1 I'm just going by what he said at the time. Im sure I recall him saying if he has tried them a few times but if he hasn't, then I assume it's a virgin pick for him. Not seeing a key before picking could also mean a blind pick I guess, depends on how you want to think about it.🤔
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