Rob Pilots the Marty Smith Replica at the 4th annual Lamoka Motocross event Hosted by AHRMA Northeast District 6. Honda Elsinore Built by Team JAMMERS circa 2002. Machine work by RRP New Jersey.
Great racing. Good track for vintage bikes. Suspension just started to evolve. I had a 75 CR125. Loved it. My age (63) would like to find another vintage bike and race/ride at these events.
Loved the Elsinore! My older cousin was an A class rider in 75,76,77 and he had a green CR and then he got a new Red Elsinore in 76. Great memories at Budds creek
The green Elsinore and the red Elsinore were exactly the same bike with a color change! I had a 73(green) and almost bought the 76(red) but they were the same bike. In 78 everything changed. I bought the 78 CR 250 ! Not any faster in a drag race, but suspension travel made a world of difference! I loved both bikes!
Thanks so much!! We have had many 74-78 CR125!Elsinores with all combinations of parts and accessories from webco heads and OG FMF pipes to FMF head with DG pipe you name it we tried it… but for some reason only this one screams all the way out
I also had 1982, which I believe was the first year for the pro link and water cooled. It had huge suspension. I think close to thirteen inches front and rear. This thing ran so nice people called it the crispy critter.
Man i wish the netherlands had these grasland/gravel tracks. Recently got a honda cr125 1985 and im loving it already even though it needs an overhaul. This track looks like a blast
Love them old school Elsinores. Great bike! Had a 79’ cr250r elsinore one of the best bikes I ever owned, tough as nails and almost never gave me any grief. Only normal wear and tear items mostly. Cool video, brings a guy back.
That's my old bike that I used to race for about three years, and I never did less than 3rd. Except for when I had a berm or jump get in my way. I never made any money, but I had a lot of chrome plated plastic to show for it.👍👍
@@JuckFoeBurden actually, they did (for a while). Was hard to keep it running - the gearbox supposedly needed constant maintenance. Rotary valve engine.
Careful about the old guys on the old bikes. I have seen no shortage of YT vids where an entire class of kids could not turn a bike with out a berm, and still go slow, (as long as they can make the next jump 200ft down the tracks, all is cool). Now we may have had a couple kids in the C class who were that pokey in the corners,---but I nave never seen an entire class like that in the 80's.
@@dennisyoung4631 Rotary valve 2-stroke engines IMO have the best potential to make the best power because you can adjust the opening and closing of the intake independently. Early porting back then, but I bet it was a pretty impressive power delivery. Was it?
@@EarthSurferUSA supposedly it was. I never rode one of those, even if I had the drools for Maico bikes back in the day, (and still do) Now the Kawasaki (F-7) *was* rotary valve, and it pulled hard from just off of idle all the way to redline. I cleaned up the ports and matched everything while rebuilding it. Stock displacement was ~ 175 cc. I had heard from multiple sources that if those were tuned appropriately, one could nearly double the stock horsepower. Mine had somewhere in the low twenties - about ten percent more - with a stock exhaust. Had I put a pipe on it, I could have gotten about three to five more.
"Maico America Great again" (Fence poster to the right of the starting line). That was then, this is now. I miss the USA. You should have gotten to know her. She was a Peach.
The last time I rode a crosser in competition was back in 1983 on my KX 400 that didnt have a reed valve but gave lots of instant torque.I rode sand races mostly and can still remember the superb sensation of leaning through a corner with the front wheel trying to reach the sky.Also riding the sand ripples at over seventy miles an hour with the bars twitching can be un nerving!
A friend on mine had the 1976 Honda 125 Elsinore for hill climbing. The only mod he did was put a 38mm carb on it. That thing had absolutely no power, (I rode and raced, and it was so hard just to get moving), until you got it up to about 10,000 rpm, and signed off at about 11,000 rpm. It was pretty strong in that 1000rpm range though. I don't think anybody today could ride that bike around a track and learn how to keep it singing with out getting blisters on the clutch lever fingers first. :)
Yep good old day's, Middleboro Mass and of course the Wick!!!! MX338 camping for the nationals! I rode Penton then switched over to Huqvarna! No better way to spend your youth!!!!
I was like a kid in the candy store when they were first released , I found if you changed the gearing a bit they were faster . Did the 76 still have a six speed ?
I had one of these raced it. If I remember right it had a down pipe and Ihad always wished they would have put one on the elsinore. I could have gone with another bike but nope I was a honda guy. Raced an xr 75 too. Same deal a down pipe. Now Im open to any brand. But Id end up in the hospital
I had 1 of these as a kid. Where have they all gone , there used to be thousands of these things around. Now if you want 1, they barely resemble a motorcycle and people want an arm and a leg, and that's before you consider restoration.
Sounds like mine,hell looks like mine. What 2 cycle oil is it running on jug piston sounds great,hair off and they lost speed , sounds right on new.o forget what on em Mikuni 32?
I could'nt race a vintage race. I'd be on the line talking about bikes: "Hey nice bike....where'd ya" find it? I gotta '75. Where do you get parts? Is that a stock carb? Did you rebuild the shocks? I got a great way to polish plastics!!"
Can you actually feel your brake and shift lever with those SIDI boots? I went to an adventure boot when I got back into riding after buying a modern MX boot, and I would not mind have a bit more protection. I just don't want to sacrifice feel, because I am pretty sure I will crash less if I can feel the controls. :)
Vid by Roger DeCoster? Loved it, had a '74 and added a DG jug. Ahh, the glory days of youth... Miss riding the ice too! Great feeling all crossed up w/ feet on the pegs just layed out and spraying! Bought it used with money earned from my paper route.
I know the rider is a major factor, but that 1976 Elsinore was quick and in my opinion a better bike than the RM and YZ. Then for some reason Honda did not come out with a redesigned bike until 1979.
@@carrillospeed my comment was strictly for 1976. The 1976 CR125M had a very comfortable seat, decent suspension and a very strong and reliable motor. The only blemish was the down pipe, but not really a big deal. By 1978 Suzuki’s RM125 was literally a rocket and in my opinion as close as you would ever come to a works bike. Finally, in 1979 Honda came out with a new bike.
My first bike for local trail/field riding at 10 years old, (a 1972 Honda CL100 street bike, left over to 2 years and bought new for $300.00 from Anderson's in Pontiac Michigan.), taught me how to be a great mechanic. I removed the headlight, speedometer, blinkers, rear brake/running light and mirrors,---all with no tools. :)
For a bit there, I was thinking, "Man, you can enter some of those corners faster than that." Then I remembered, you basically don't have any brakes. lol
The 4-stroke engine was forced on the industry by the EPA, (that is not freedom), and of course, when you put a faster engine in a racing chassis to race a course that has corners, the tracks get faster. I am glad I learned how to ride when the speeds were sane like this. IMO, the racing has gotten too fast for probably all parents who did not grow up riding/racing to get their kids into. Back then also, the parents did not get most kids into riding, because we could afford a new bike ourselves, and most parents were never involved.
I remember those old Elsinors's being very pipey and not so good to ride at the time. Suzuki, and Yamaha were far better on usable powerband from the Japinese bikes.. Maico and some other EU bikes were far better in some ways. Power being a primary point
IDK about that. I loved Decoster, J. Robert, Howerton Hannah & Barnett but from the time Marty Smith Showed up @ Mid-ohio on an Elsinore couldn't hardly anybody stay with him on a CR 125 -500 or Andre Malerbe for that matter for several years. A kid brought a showroom new cr 250 out to our spot in Indiana & blew by all our RMs, YZs etc & we had Reeds,Pipes , Overbores !!!
@@EarthSurferUSA @EarthSurferUSA - LOLL! I think your mother & I are kindred spirits. The sound of a two stroke sends my central nervous system into a Tizzy! No NEED whatsoever, to make them that loud. They had two stroke lawnmowers in the 60's & 70's that were properly muffled, & they were calming to listen to
