LPL, have you considered having a "Locky Award" anually for the worst lock for a given year? You could have different categories of locks and Master Lock Company could finally get their much deserved "Lifetime Underacheivement Award".
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@@pete_lind Masterlock lockout locks are surprisingly good. They are safety locks, not security locks. Preventing honest people from getting hurt or hurting others rather than protecting against thieves. They are also temper evident, for liability reasons.
It would be cool to see an annual video of best and worst locks. Maybe add in some honorable mentions to stretch the vid to 10 minutes so he can make a little money on adds. I'd watch it just for the fact that this channel puts out consistently good content.
LPL needs to see this because that could actually influence how locks are made in the future to make them more secure instead of going to such lows to make a "better lock" when in reality if i just piss on it it opens without the key.
Oh dude, I actually had a MLP lunchbox in which I used to keep my toy gun. Even had it "padded" with the filling of an old pillow. Those were the days.
The thing I wonder is would anyone think it is actually a way to secure a gun? I sure hope not. They should really market it as a "legal transport case" or something similar. I'm guessing if they marked the box with "not a real safe", it would probably hurt their ability to cover the law you mentioned :)
@@pikepunk1 One would hope, but unfortunately responsibility also requires intelligence and the drive to question what you are told...two things currently in short supply in the world.
Was going to comment the same. Deviant Ollam has a good defcon talk on gun safes (and their poor security) and mentions in it that while being poor security devices, plenty of the trash you can buy is great if all you're concerned with is complying with some fundamentally flawed law.
There IS such a competition! It's price, and the fact that so many people buy based on it (with marketing second, and actual product quality at the distant bottom of the list).
@Lassi Kinnunen Not necessarily. Plastic injection molding puts restrictions on the shape of parts, otherwise it gets expensive. Put simply the mold has to open up into two halves and release the part without any undercuts. Maybe there are ways to build the hinge in a less stupid fashion that doesn't cost extra, but I don't know them. This is a standard design, it should never be used in a lock box of course, but it is cheap.
@@adamwest8711 A good possibility he is a lawyer, he may have used ownership if it was his now while possession does not exclude it being something he is only holding on to. But I think he wouldn't show us something he got from a client to hold on to. I believe the BAR frowns on something like that.
What did they get right? I'm guessing two things: 1) The price 2) Compliance with various state's laws requiring that firearms be kept in a locked container without specifying the quality of said container I really hope that no one would buy this hoping to keep any sort of unauthorized user away from their firearm.
You are a valuable asset to our society. It goes beyond entertainment at this point and enters into a public service announcement. Thank you for what you do.
If it's cheap, then I can see it having been created as a legal solution to some transport requirement. For instance, if I am required to have my pistol in a locked case when transporting it in my car, I can use this when I drive to the shooting range.
This and child/idiot/drunk proofing. It's enough to keep people who might pick up a loose gun out, but offers little more security than a baby gate does for your home at large.
@@jealexander This is not child, idiot or drunk proof. All of them are fully capable and prone to drop it on the ground which would probably be enough to break the plastic, the locking mechanism, the hinges or everything at once...
@@carstekoch if they used a decent plastic it'll be as durable as many metal lockable containers like this - think plastic like PMAGs that can be dropped all day without breaking, not cheap ammo boxes that crack the first time you drop them. I haven't put my hands on this, but if it's properly designed it won't be so easily damaged. Proper mounting will play a role in this too, screwing it to a shelf will go a long way toward preventing drops as well. I'd still argue it fits what I said if it is brittle though, simply putting it out of sight and behind a lock (even if it's not an effective lock) will go a long way toward dissuading the average person from even trying to open it. It won't secure the contents from anyone who actually wants to get in, it just provides the illusion of security which is enough to convince 99% of people with no bad intentions (just dangerous curiosity) from trying to get in. This is an ND prevention device, not a theft prevention device.
@@jealexander I might be thinking too much into this, but they used the cheapest lock and construction they could find. I doubt they're using anything else than cheap Polyethylene. Even if they did use any higher graded material it will not withstand a curious child. The average Person wouldn't try to get their hands on another persons gun in their house without their permission. This "safe" does not have mounting holes. Screwing it to anything will weaken the shell and enable you to put leverage on the now weakened backside. If you're lucky it will just rip the screw heads out of the case, if you're not so lucky it will rip a hole into the back, giving anyone access to the gun. This does not need to be malicious intend, a drunk person grabbing it because they were falling over their own feed, a child loosing their footing on the makeshift ladder they made to get to that new and forbidden "toy", or an idiot wrecking stuff because they are an idiot. There were/are thousands of people eating detergent for 2 minutes of internet fame just a few months back or, more recently, driving cars with a blindfold. A plastic case will not stop these. Additionally screwing it to anything in a vertical arrangement will nullify the padding. If anything, screwing it to something will make it worse. The only thing this could be used for is a temporary stowage for legal reasons on your way to the shooting range.
Coming from switzerland, liking your channel, enyoing your content, being 34 years old now. Still getting distracted by a short version of the smith and wesson 500 revolver, what a beauty...
John Geannaris came here to say the same thing. The only thing they got right about it was pricing and sometimes that's the only thing that matters in the market, sadly.
My guess is it's sold at walmart. Walmart tells the manufacturers what they'll pay which forces them to make it as cheaply as possible in order for them to make a profit as well. The solution to this is for manufacturers to refuse to make junk, and sell their products through other retailers or direct to the customer through online sales. Walmart, always the cheapest junk. Always.
When I turned 18, I purchased a S&W 686 and still have that revolver today, lets just saw that was over 30 years ago. That poor revolver in your video has had a rough life, but I bet it shoots the same as the day it was purchased. Unlike the safe in this review, that awesome gun can take a licking and keep performing year after year, and box after box of ammo. I'll take an old Colt Python, Ruger GP100 or S&W 686 any day! Love it!!
Excellent Product. Imagine being caught within any random urban building during a zombie apocalypse- you'd be glad if more people were using those lunchboxes...
With the rust and scratches all over it looks like it was buried for a while or something similar. I wonder if it'll turn up in another video nicely restored.
I was all-in expecting the second entry method to just be a few solid whacks with a hammer!!! That might of been a reason for the S&W to look that way too 😂
Talk about an old truck gun! The Smith&Wesson is very used. I like it though, some of my favorite guns look like that lol. Still worth much more than that plastic box!
Jonny hooks , actually it’s made to be a cheap “lockable” hard sided case to comply with ridiculous transportation laws. It’s purpose is not to “secure” anything.
Excellent video, and I agree that this box is total junk for the purposes it was designed for. I would never even consider buying one. But I do have to take issue with one thing you said, plastic isn't necessarily a horrible choice of material, many different plastics, especially when impregnated with glass or fiber reinforcing can be just as strong or stronger than (mild) steel, and with much better corrosion resistance! 👍👊
Now I want to make a plastic gun safe just to see how good it can actually be in practice. You know these designers messed up when the first thought I had was immediately to use an internal hinge as a part of the frame.
After Harvey i was doing hurricane clean up and one of are clients told us that if we find a locked gun safe or bo.x we need to open it so he can get the gun out of it. Apparently he had lost his safe keys during the storm. I found one of these and I just based the thing open with a hammer. I'm not a particularly strong guy and I just hit 3 times with a basic carpentry hammer.
When I got the notification for this vid, I saw the pic and my mind said to the revolver, Hi, I know you. Your cousin lives at my house. :-) Abused is a good word for that S&W. But as far as I can see, the strap looks good ; I don't think it has seen a lot of rounds go through it.
I have one and all I use it for is storing co2 cartridges for my air soft guns when travelling from home to the site were i play the guns them selves are in metal cases like you see in the movies that are cuffed to the wrist tho I cuff them to anchor points in the back of my car it won’t stop But hay stops it from moving around too much while I’m on my way there
Wonder how fast a kid would pick that if you locked the cell phone in there. That should be the test for child proofing. Take the cell phone and put it in a lock box and see how quick they can open the lock. Ok after the 3 hours of crying. That should be the standard LPL uses for ease of entry.
My first was since it's plastic was to melt it. I mean it could damage the gun inside, but it'd probably work. My second thought was if it's plastic could you with enough force stab it and cut it open. Might take awhile, but might work.
I actually think there's an obvious use for this product, which is to store the gun to/from the range in states that require you to do so in a locked box. If all I wanted was something to comply with that regulation, I would want the cheapest, flimsiest (in case I ever lose the key) box I could possibly get, and this satisfies those requirements.
They were even nice enough to put knurling on the ends of the hinge pins, to make them even easier to grip with the pliers... Man, they really think of everything over at snapsafe..
My First Gun Safe. Very lucrative children's toy for parents teaching their children gun safety. This product is safer than the Easy Bake Oven that was sent to my niece, or the Aquadots sent to my nephew. One thumb up! Unisex children's toy marketed to adults. Worth the 20$ pricetag!
I honestly thought you were going to mention the key code (365) being printed on the keyhole directly as well. At least I assume that's supposed to be the key code. Not that it matters for the type of lock, a wet noodle could be used as a key.
Kinkajou1015 That’s a numeric designation for the key, not the cut code. Common on small, cheap cam locks such as toolboxes, filing cabinets and apparently plastic gun “safes”. One example is the CH751 key, which among other things opens 70-80% of RV storage compartments
id like to se what happens if you try to hacksaw your way throu or even use the pliers on the hinge in the back.... i guess you could just brake it of as it does not look to robust... Btw.... would it be possible to forsfully turn the lock with some sort of long arm/lever? It is embedded in plastic after all?
a friend of my dad has a box like this. He doesn't use it to keep the gun safe, he just want to make sure that his 3yo kid can't touch that gun but i will tell him to get a proper steel gun cabinet for extra safety
All very true spoken words. But I still think that box purpose was just meant to abide by a gun transport law . ie , to and from a gun range and or transport from place to place. ,and it was never meant to actually secure the gun ...if that makes sense lol
If anyone is reading still, perhaps researching before buying, it gets worse. The combination lock can easily be deciphered by slipping a piece of paper in the number dial slots and feeling for a little divet on the right number. 30 seconds, low-skill attack. There is a hole on the side of the box that leads almost directly to the reset lever. You can even access the reset lever by removing the hinge pins as LPL did here. You can then change the code as you please, put the pins back in and ransom the contents if your mark is a rube. Very, very, very sloppy design.
I want to create a everyday carry pick assortment, I'm in the US. What would be your top five picks be? I'm a little bit aggressive with my picking style still so a quality sturdy pick is preferred. Thanks in advance. S
@@bdf2718 Not necessarily, the TSA doesn't call for the lock for guns to match their locks, only that you be present to unlock it upon inspection. It does call for them to be ain a lockable case, among other things.
bdf2718, when you travel with a firearm in your checked bag, it is inspected prior to you checking it. They don’t need to open it without you there bc they will have you open for inspection when you check the bag. 100% of the time. Recently they changed policy to require you to claim your bag at the baggage claim office at your destination as well. Your bag can no longer be retrieved from the carrousel if you’re transporting a firearm.
That's not how you should treat the TSA locked firearms requirements. Take them as an excuse to use a proper, non-TSA lock and genuinely secure your luggage.
I wonder how many ways there are to destructively open this box without damaging the gun. Blowtorch High speed drop/throw Circular saw Ramset C4 Another gun
Great video, but one thing. It's good practice to demonstrate that a firearm is clear, especially if you're going to grab it by the barrel while it's pointed toward you.
The perfect use would be to put it in a conspicuous place with a brick inside. Someone breaks in and just grabs it, and hopefully does not continue looking for your other, safely locked up, handgun.
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