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9 Things Mudrunner did better than Snowrunner 

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@kurtsteiner7310
@kurtsteiner7310 4 года назад
Mudrunner was a lot better in certain things, it felt like a successor to the original Spintires. Snowrunner is more like a whole new thing.
@thefusionshark
@thefusionshark 4 года назад
Agreed, in my mind mudrunner had the ideas but couldn’t carry them out, snowrunner has ideas but not the same but carried them out, if snowrunner would’ve kept some of the ideas that mudrunner did it would be better
@Airsoft_Ghost1
@Airsoft_Ghost1 4 года назад
Is that not the point tho, making a new game, trying to make it better?
@armoredp
@armoredp 4 года назад
@@Airsoft_Ghost1 Yes but not removing things that were already good.
@Airsoft_Ghost1
@Airsoft_Ghost1 4 года назад
armoredp what was already good? Logging 24/7?
@armoredp
@armoredp 4 года назад
@@Airsoft_Ghost1 I don't think you quite understand what "things that were already good" means, it does not mean personally cherry picking the one clear fault of Mudrunner. But anyway; Mud physics were much better than in Snowrunner, vehicle models looked much better and more realistic, better steering and all the points made in his video.
@UberGrunk
@UberGrunk 3 года назад
Snowrunner has an entire category reserved for troll vehicles, it's called "Highway trucks" :P
@beezyj3227
@beezyj3227 3 года назад
Literally WORTHLESS. Highway trucks or any vehicle with highway tires are completely utterly garbage unless you're roll playing and want to switch trucks and loads constantly. (Which I've done). Use a highway vehicle to tow an offroad vehicle on a semi bed which is carrying the load, then offload the offroad vehicle onto the mud, never touching the main road. Besides playing around like that they have no real use.
@CeoOfTheBOIS
@CeoOfTheBOIS 3 года назад
@@beezyj3227 The GMC is good offroad with its offroad upgrades and suspension upgrades. If say it's good in the category of highway trucks.
@tuongcat5728
@tuongcat5728 3 года назад
Dude that burn
@daylineli
@daylineli 3 года назад
And stock DON 71
@giovannifoulmouth7205
@giovannifoulmouth7205 3 года назад
@@daylineli and stock Tuz 166 which the most useless vehicle in the game
@KamisKapi
@KamisKapi 4 года назад
K 700 whistle is so nostalgic
@Dirkietje8
@Dirkietje8 4 года назад
Download the mod, its pretty much the same as in Mudrunner, just missing the useful claw attachment.
@SD1ONE
@SD1ONE 4 года назад
@@Dirkietje8 Where is this mod...I searched it on mod.io but it's not there or maybe it's different name...love the K-700 and it's whistling engine
@Dirkietje8
@Dirkietje8 4 года назад
@@SD1ONE i found it by searching 'K-700', it's by Silent_Laconic. 28th of May it was uploaded.
@devioussounds
@devioussounds 3 года назад
Are yard truck at work does the same sound and it always reminds me of that lol
@japanTzy-01
@japanTzy-01 4 месяца назад
​@@SD1ONE bro didn't respond
@discoverlight
@discoverlight 4 года назад
Man your opinion is so spot on, I also hate that we don’t have the option to pull winch in SnowRunner to save fuel.
@SD1ONE
@SD1ONE 4 года назад
That is one feature I miss a lot in snowrunner...specially while recovering a flipped truck, It's engine gets ON making it harder to flip back.
@katherinecurtis1747
@katherinecurtis1747 4 года назад
Brady Prince Wait, mudrunner had cruise control?
@ShadowDragon246
@ShadowDragon246 4 года назад
you'll be able to load vehicles onto a trailer and truck them around when phase 2 goes live besides the PTS
@tacothe13th30
@tacothe13th30 4 года назад
@@katherinecurtis1747 Yeah (On Xbox or with an Xbox controller at least, i think) If you held right stick instead of just tapping it and then just stuck in in a gear (like low, auto, etc) you wouldn't have to touch the accelerator to get the truck going it would just go. But you wouldn't be able to move the camera.
@stumpusMaximus
@stumpusMaximus 3 года назад
You do. You have automatic winches that run on battery now with certain vehicles . You also have a crane now that can lift entire trucks and transport any vehicle you can lift and put on a bed
@bluesrocker91
@bluesrocker91 4 года назад
I liked the atmosphere better in Mudrunner... The maps felt more remote and empty, and I liked the misty weather. Also, I wish there were more old, Soviet army trucks in Snowrunner.
@MrFusion
@MrFusion Год назад
I like both styles. I don't mind the more warm and lively vibe in Snowrunner, but Mudrunner definitely nails that "you are in the middle of fucking nowhere" vibe.
@Cavitt
@Cavitt Год назад
@@MrFusion exactly lol. The MudRunner vibe is serene, like you’re 100 miles from ANYBODY, whereas every SnowRunner region is like “hey, Bubba two streets over needs your help with these rocks” lol.
@Grow_tf_up
@Grow_tf_up 19 дней назад
Bubba😂​@@Cavitt
@discoverlight
@discoverlight 4 года назад
Man I’ve noticed the addons and trailers early and I can’t understand why in SnowRunner they used the same type for both regions. That is a easy thing and makes a huge difference.
@armoredp
@armoredp 4 года назад
You'd think they still have all the assets of the Mudrunner game. I would not have minded they just copied/transferred them to Snowrunner.
@thefusionshark
@thefusionshark 4 года назад
armoredp but also improving the visual appearance of the truck truck such as quality
@armoredp
@armoredp 4 года назад
@@thefusionshark Well they'd get a visual upgrade being transferred into the Snowrunner engine, but honestly the details on the mudrunner trucks are topnotch already.
@thefusionshark
@thefusionshark 4 года назад
armoredp yes while they are really good I think there’s some improvement to be done mainly on the interior
@MapleMan1984
@MapleMan1984 4 года назад
@@armoredp they do, many of the tires are ripped from mudrunner
@aircooledgaming
@aircooledgaming 4 года назад
One big feature that's missing in SnowRunner is H-pattern shifter for wheels. Huge disappointment that they removed that feature.
@OttosTheName
@OttosTheName 4 года назад
And they removed cruise control. And precise throttle for keyboard players. And setting steering angle for winched vehicle, which was absolutely essential for towing through trees. So many downgrades were made to the basic mechanics...
@trombulan
@trombulan 3 года назад
@@OttosTheName but, but graphics are most important... :))
@hellopeoplee
@hellopeoplee 3 года назад
@@trombulan the high graphics just make my normal ps4 automatically turn them down most of the time and theirs no option I know of to change them manually so it ends up looking worse than Mudrunner instead of better
@vladvulcan
@vladvulcan 3 года назад
that thing was unwieldy
@Lonewolf23-26
@Lonewolf23-26 3 года назад
Really miss h-shifter with clutch made that mudrunner and even before that spin tires so great was being able to utilize the shifter and clutch
@boomyoulookingforthis1362
@boomyoulookingforthis1362 4 года назад
They should have two scout classes, large scouts, and small scouts. The small scouts should have a recall feature.
@SD1ONE
@SD1ONE 4 года назад
Nice Suggestion...Scouts class is kinda messed up...They really need that larg & small divide
@OttosTheName
@OttosTheName 4 года назад
Small scouts might as well not be there though... A Kodiak is just as nimble and at least twice as fast as any scout in any tricky or difficult terrain. In MudRunner they were actually fun to drive.
@beezyj3227
@beezyj3227 3 года назад
@@OttosTheName the scouts in Snowrunner are useless until you get the max upgrades for them with the lifted suspension and giant mud tires. They can't make it through the simplest terrain. Any 6x6 with stock tires is easier to navigate than the scouts. I never use the scouts for anything at all. I was excited to see the International Lodster and its add-ons, till I tried it and it's pretty much garbage. Only thing scouts are good for are collecting scout trailers to sell back to the trailer store. That's it. Even then I just use a regular truck, winch the trailer to the store, then use a scout to attach it and sell it.
@s1dney149
@s1dney149 3 года назад
big brain moment
@boomyoulookingforthis1362
@boomyoulookingforthis1362 3 года назад
@@s1dney149 oh yeah, this is big brain time
@brooksrownd2275
@brooksrownd2275 4 года назад
The BEST thing about MudRunner was delivering user-created vehicles and maps through the Steam Workshop! The worst thing about SnowRunner is the lack of the classic soviet-era vehicles.
@armoredp
@armoredp 4 года назад
Yeah they really dropped the ball on that one. I mean they had all the assets from Mudrunner, those trucks should have been there, they are iconic.
@kevinrhodes6066
@kevinrhodes6066 3 года назад
You should wait, because they are making extra money with an epic exclusive contract, like many games, it should be in steam 1-2 years
@trombulan
@trombulan 3 года назад
Couldn't agree more
@app_manifestation
@app_manifestation 3 года назад
AND its not on steam.
@Tenere_
@Tenere_ 3 года назад
there's already quite a few mods for the soviet era vehicles on pc
@sillyquigga9467
@sillyquigga9467 4 года назад
I absolutely love mudrunner, i can feel russia just by playing that game with my friends, getting stuck in mud, rivers, between trees. We helped each other and tried our best and when we discovered winch bug we took flight. Mudrunner has special place in my heart
@Finnmarken91
@Finnmarken91 3 года назад
Me too man!
@reinbeers5322
@reinbeers5322 4 года назад
Wish we had most of the old russian trucks here. Especially monsters like the E7310.
@ZoMTDU
@ZoMTDU 4 года назад
Is the MAZ 8x8 in snow runner? That base Spin Tires vehicle was a beast.
@reinbeers5322
@reinbeers5322 4 года назад
@@ZoMTDU Nope.
@peddy911
@peddy911 4 года назад
Snowrunner is based on American trucks.
@ZoMTDU
@ZoMTDU 4 года назад
@@peddy911 huh.
@jochenkraus7016
@jochenkraus7016 3 года назад
Snowrunner has a Russian part that's a bit Mudrunner-ish (landscape, buildings, weather) with more modern vehicles. But as mentioned in the video, some of them could carry a longer flatbed or a bigger crane. Afaik there are several sizes of those yellow service things that contain both fuel an repair points.
@LasseKongo69
@LasseKongo69 4 года назад
And is it only me who thinks the engine sounds have been downgraded?
@Markmckwn
@Markmckwn 4 года назад
Engine sounds in Mudrunner is way better than Snowrunner! You are totally right, ive always said that to myself.
@crystalasteroid5571
@crystalasteroid5571 4 года назад
@@Markmckwn so should I not get snow runner
@Markmckwn
@Markmckwn 4 года назад
@@crystalasteroid5571 No absolutely man you have to get snowrunner, its amazing! Really Really brilliant game, just saying the sound of the trucks were better in mudrunner thats all.
@harleydanforth5986
@harleydanforth5986 3 года назад
@@crystalasteroid5571 they have console mods in snow runner now and it makes it so much better
@tennydwyer4613
@tennydwyer4613 3 года назад
@Sanningen if you thought snowrunner was awful then there’s no point in mud runner
@Kilb-ill
@Kilb-ill 4 года назад
One of the first thing that come to my mind is, that in mudrunner a loaded trailer felt really heavy. In snowrunner it makes no difference if they're loaded or not....the bounce, jump and so on.
@altuck4x4
@altuck4x4 3 года назад
That is very true 👍
@zyanide4968
@zyanide4968 3 года назад
Dude try loading concrete blocks... they are so heavy
@Tominator907
@Tominator907 3 года назад
Not true. Just loading them the trailers suspension squats.
@eggy_white2100
@eggy_white2100 3 года назад
I went across a river crossing unloaded, came back with long logs and couldn't get across weight does have an impact
@0xsergy
@0xsergy 2 года назад
@@thefreshprinceofbriggsmoun4441 they may have changed the weight of loaded trailers at some point, some are definitely still broken. like the fuel trailer, utility trailer, and maintenance trailer all don't weigh anything by default(probably around 2000-3000kg or something, the fuel one for example should weigh around 16,000kg). there's a mod to make them weigh the proper weight though, Real Life mod.
@Vulture2k
@Vulture2k 4 года назад
Actually the fuel capacity is a big thing to m. It's weird seeing some oshkosh have 300 Liter and sucking it dry in half a map when in reality they have like 800 or so. A lot of the big vehicles are very limited in range, I get that it is a gameplay mechanic.. But still.
@justindesrosiers3145
@justindesrosiers3145 4 года назад
*cough cough*ANK MK38*cough cough*
@comethiburs2326
@comethiburs2326 4 года назад
@@justindesrosiers3145 lol right, medium size, burns more fuel than the P16 under load.
@HalNordmann
@HalNordmann Год назад
It is definitely a gameplay mechanic. Quite a few of the trucks have smaller tanks than in reality, to force players to think about fuel use.
@123nya
@123nya Год назад
Именно для этого я скачивал программу, в которой вручную ставил количество топлива такое, какое и должно быть
@osmozz6981
@osmozz6981 4 года назад
I think that the biggest thing that was changed for worse in my opinion from mud runner was the pacing of the whole game. I really prefered the puzzle type of maps over the snowrunners campaing style. When you found a ok truck the game never put a new really hard challenge in your way and game felt way more like busy work for the sake of compleating everything. In mud runner in the other hand you tried to find where are the trailers, vehicles on maps, and where you get fuel and where to transport it. And starting with the good old 1 star truck. Hopefully the mod maps will fix this issue that me and my friend have.
@Andrew-mv5kt
@Andrew-mv5kt 4 года назад
someone should make a mod pack with all the mudrunner trucks in it. including that little tractor and the A-969 Another thing is they should all have the old addons, as you said at 4:50
@swagmasteryolo6259
@swagmasteryolo6259 4 года назад
I feel like someone has or is working on it
@armoredp
@armoredp 4 года назад
And the MAZ 537, what a unit of a vehicle that is.
@Andrew-mv5kt
@Andrew-mv5kt 4 года назад
Note, the new tuz warthog etc do have some mudrunner style add-ons, would love to see them as an option for other trucks, along with old trailers for scouts and trucks
@vladvulcan
@vladvulcan 3 года назад
@@armoredp, Kolob 74760 is like 537 a lot
@armoredp
@armoredp 3 года назад
@@vladvulcan True, but I really prefer the 1960/70 look on the trucks. That includes the Kraz 255 (pretty much the same as the Tayga) etc.
@The8james5
@The8james5 4 года назад
I miss the compass HUD, winch mechanics and map water depth
@captainevenslower4400
@captainevenslower4400 4 года назад
I miss the dangling Power and air lines between truck and trailer from mudrunner.
@98dodge360v8
@98dodge360v8 4 года назад
I miss the old winch drive/pull function. You should do a ANK vs Tayga comparison now that they added 2 new suspensions and Tayga tires to the ANK in the yukon update.
@SD1ONE
@SD1ONE 4 года назад
will do that soon
@kwarkon1
@kwarkon1 3 года назад
you forgot about key element: mud mechanics. In mudrunner your tires could damage the surface and dig in if you were not careful with your throttle. In snowrunner truck only just move slow in mud or stright get stuck. But the mud satys the same regardless of what you do.
@dragoxk4542
@dragoxk4542 3 года назад
Really? That’s like the whole point
@eratoz5096
@eratoz5096 3 года назад
@@dragoxk4542 not really actually I have the game and you can see the mud deforming under your wheel , tho I would say mudrunner did a way better job for it because in snowrunner it always feel like its either I'm stuck or I'm not compare to mudrunner where I could feel like even when I thought I was f*cked I could still use some skill to get me out of here
@Darion350
@Darion350 2 года назад
I know this is ages old, but I find that using High or sometimes even Low-3 in mud causes me to get stuck due to digging in and then Low-2 or Low-1 will grab and get me out. Maybe it's just not as pronounced as it is in Mudrunner (I've only played Snowrunner).
@Nusszucker
@Nusszucker 2 года назад
@@Darion350 I really just started playing snowrunner on thursday and at least from my standpoint (having played mudrunner thrusday morning and switching in the evening) I can say, mud physics is on point in snowrunner now, it feels great, you deform the terrain, create new tire groves in deep mud, different vehicles behave differently on the same terrain, the only thing i am kinda missing is the 3d mud buildup on the tires, i just guess the developer did listen to the community and changed things for the better (or im just blind, don't know, but I enjoy snowrunner a lot)
@0xsergy
@0xsergy 2 года назад
@@Nusszucker yeah, honestly I went back and played some spintires and the mud just felt weird. like you would climb out of a mud pit so easily if you modulated the throttle. like instantly up ontop of the dirt without deforming the edge at all which felt weird to me, almost like the dirt was too stiff. could have just been that map though.
@vinhlocquach9603
@vinhlocquach9603 4 года назад
3 more things that really irk me off: 1. The automatic refuelling. In SnowRunner, sometimes the game automatically refuel from one source to another, while in MudRunner (+SpinTires), you don't have such problems. In fact, you can't syphon fuel between different vehicles like in SnowRunner (this I consider an improvement of SnowRunner, however). Also, you can't drain your fuel tank addon empty like in MudRunner. And no, hilariously, this feature can be seen not when you use a fuel station, but when you choose the "Refuel" option in the Advanced Menu. I consider this an annoyance and a very terrible design choice. 2. The differential lock. In MudRunner (also the same for SpinTires), once you switch to Low gear, the differential lock will be automatically activated. Not so in SnowRunner. That old habit carries over to the next game, and especially problematic on the earlier driver levels where you're stuck with crappy highway tires. You park on a loading zone located on a difficult patch of terrain to use a crane, and return the vehicle to neutral, or do whatever the hell that gets the vehicle shifted to Auto. It starts sinking into the surface. Once you're done and packed your cargo, you want to drive away, but can't activate the differential lock because of the stupid change. You're stuck, and have to use another truck to help it out. 3. What is the purpose of Neutral in this game, when you enter a vehicle it defaults to Auto? For a game flexing itself as a "simulator", this behavior will get you kicked out of a driving school, let alone technically possible in real life. Also, I don't understand why they don't allow differential locking in Neutral. I haven't even mentioned that they still haven't bother to change the in-game sun. Have you ever seen our Sun rising AND setting on the West? Never will. And there are many other things that I find inferior to MudRunner. But considering the dev team's capabilities with the bugs, I'd say these things might never get changed, and I'm almost used to them anyway. Let them focus on the bugs before any other change is made. I love the game. In fact, I've sunk so many hours into it that I can't remember. It generally did carry 2 of the greatest selling points of MudRunner and SpinTires which are replayability and modding capabilities. However, I consider SnowRunner a spin-off of the series, similar to Forza Motorsport and Horizon. I currently play all 3 of them, and since Oovee now actually picked up SpinTires where they left off, the game feels alive again, and that gives us players a good variety of tastes and experience. Maybe one day, we can get all (or most) of the good points of them all and combine into a single masterpiece. Now that is something I'm willing to pay full price for. (Edited for punctuation and grammar).
@WatanabeNoTsuna.
@WatanabeNoTsuna. 4 года назад
Regarding your first point, it's not automatic refuel - sometimes the game thinks we pressed the button twice (maybe if we press it longer?) the same happens when you exit a menu.
@vinhlocquach9603
@vinhlocquach9603 4 года назад
That’s a possibility. I find that this usually happens when you just load up a map (either from the main menu or just changing between maps) and then refuel from a truck or a trailer nearby. Usually it just happen once until you load a new map.
@thibautmerlin2376
@thibautmerlin2376 3 года назад
I think the sole utility of Neutral is when your gearbox is wrecked and start mischifting, it shifts to the neutral gear.
@camoman7342
@camoman7342 4 года назад
The biggest thing I miss from Mudrunner that should be in Snowrunner is cruise control.
@Dragunov302
@Dragunov302 3 года назад
Yes
@mcormier3934
@mcormier3934 3 года назад
@@Dragunov302 it's got it now
@123nya
@123nya Год назад
​@@mcormier3934 как включить это?
@mcormier3934
@mcormier3934 Год назад
@@123nya for winching
@123nya
@123nya Год назад
@@mcormier3934 how to enable cruise control in snow runner?
@mirohanhinen2517
@mirohanhinen2517 4 года назад
But is the recall option REALLY realistic??
@EddieFPV
@EddieFPV 4 года назад
agreed. soon we will be able to carry a small scout on a trailer so this should be fun
@SD1ONE
@SD1ONE 4 года назад
I think they should make small scouts like DON, etc more relevant so that people would like to use them over bigger scouts like paystar, etc
@initialyeet3951
@initialyeet3951 4 года назад
SD1ONE the PayStar isn’t a scout
@alelokox88
@alelokox88 4 года назад
Is recalling your 12 tons truck to the garage realistic? No. Scouts are borderline useless in snowrunner, just the tatarin the Yar are usable and the tatarin cant even pull trailers. You could rescue your truck near a objective recalling a Scout and using the winch, you loose all spare parts and gas too so if you need that you needed to drive there still, if you only needed a push you could recall it. Was super useful and fair.
@SD1ONE
@SD1ONE 4 года назад
@@initialyeet3951oops.. I mean loadstar.... little condition there
@Clogmonger
@Clogmonger 3 года назад
Snowrunner is immensely fun, I'm way more addicted to it. But I was messing with Mudrunner on my switch and watching how tree stumps and such move around in the mud when you bump em was mesmerizing. I think the mud has been downgraded. It still looks good but I'm not often blown away by it like I was in mudrunner.
@kenj.4090
@kenj.4090 4 года назад
I like the way Mudrunner feels while driving. It feels more realistic to me than Snowrunner did. And the Gearbox in Mudrunner works way much better for me, to shift is more fun.
@elewis6622
@elewis6622 3 года назад
Who remembers the fridge you could slap on top of that sedan
@ArtemChumachenko-j4s
@ArtemChumachenko-j4s 4 года назад
And the sound of the engine and the whistle of a big turbine are also better in Mudrunner
@benmk21600
@benmk21600 4 года назад
I was a beta tester of Spintires 2013-2015. You can see from my 2014 videos it was way ahead of it's time and pretty much the same as Mudrunner . This is because something major happened and there was a big fall out of the developers (Oovee) . Mudrunner bought the game ,added a few American trucks (There was already free mods!) and cashed in selling the game again . Last year Oovee got the game rights back so I presume Snowrunner with lots less features is all they have. Better graphics are probably quite easy now with the improvements in graphics engines , and using the same trailers and containers is just lazyness in my opinion. I think Spintires is back on steam.
@FirstFamilyCharger
@FirstFamilyCharger Год назад
I so wish they would make a new direct competitor to Snowrunner. Console mods and all. Probably not going to happen unfortunately. You can really feel how NOT authentic Snowrunner is.
@eoghanoriordan2818
@eoghanoriordan2818 3 года назад
I 100% agree with ya on the river thing, like in mudrunner you actually had to be careful when you crossed rivers, like making sure how heavy your truck was or what you where pulling so the current doesn’t take ya, in snowrunner all you have to be careful of is having a snorkel
@ChipDouglas10
@ChipDouglas10 3 года назад
Snowrunner is amazing game i love it but Mudrunner felt more realistic. Can't really point finger on what did it more realistic but it just felt more realistic
@EdyAlbertoMSGT3
@EdyAlbertoMSGT3 3 года назад
I think its because MudRunner is much more simplified, you get inmersed easier as in Snowrunner you are often reminded that you're on a game by the HUD and menus.
@greyone40
@greyone40 3 года назад
One thing that immediately disappointed me with Snowrunner was the lack of a standard gearbox. The way the auto system works just seems arcady and dumbing down. Then there is the "recover" function where you can just teleport back to the garage if you get stuck.
@armoredp
@armoredp 4 года назад
I'd also like to add that mudrunner has much nicer (mud)tires and wheels, it almost seems like Snowrunner doesn't have any russian tires, apart from the TUZ tatarin. They just put American looking tires on the russian trucks. Just wish the DLC would also include more new tires, would rather have that, than another new scout.
@SD1ONE
@SD1ONE 4 года назад
agreed... tires are same for most trucks... they should add like some exclusive tires like tayga has its wide tires although they shared those tires with warthog and tuz 16.
@SchazmenRassir
@SchazmenRassir 4 года назад
I agree with all of these. But I have to note the troll vehicles. The A-968M is... well, no need to explain, really. It's a legend on this channel for a reason. The B-6A tractor is... honestly, surprisingly capable, in some regards. In a mod map (I forget which) that had swamp areas, all the vanilla vehicles kept getting stuck, and needed winches to move forward... except the tractor. It was slow-going, but that thing trundled on through the areas others couldn't, and only needed the winch a couple times to get over fallen trees. Kinda similar with the old B-130, actually. It's not powerful, but it's not useless either. Then again, I suppose it all depends on experience and will vs time and effort, but still.
@victoriaevelyn3953
@victoriaevelyn3953 4 года назад
The old gear box was better to you could put it into any speed and vary it not just low low, low mid and low high snow runner is a more polished version of mudrunner I do miss the trucks from the old game
@IronWolf307
@IronWolf307 4 года назад
The mudrunner low with 3 different stages is your low-, low and low+. The old 1+ is now high, only thing they didn't keep was the different adjustments for reverse. Snowrunner has actual throttle control and mudrunner didn't plus i prefer the plus layout over the H pattern.
@bewcina
@bewcina 4 года назад
What i really miss in ST, MR and SR is proper physics and sound of engine and gearbox. No clutch. No rev counter...nothing. Feels like driving mario kart not the big rig😕
@abrahammatthewanandamarro4352
@abrahammatthewanandamarro4352 4 года назад
mr has rev counter
@bewcina
@bewcina 4 года назад
@@abrahammatthewanandamarro4352 True...but is useless
@Natd0gsef
@Natd0gsef 4 года назад
I would be very happy if someone would bring back the 1995 F-150
@iamnotthemuffinman
@iamnotthemuffinman 4 года назад
On the recall front, a nice advancement would be if you recalled a scout from a garage, it would physically gain a driver and actually drive to you, taking real time and using fuel on the way!
@Orginal_Sinner
@Orginal_Sinner 4 года назад
I really do prefer the mud physics of mud runner over snow runner. I also just don't understand why do bigger vehicle's have the same fuel capacity. The twin steer has 3 big gas tanks but no increased capacity. I feel like the devs made snow runner too easy. It really should be a hardcore OG mud runner mode.
@SD1ONE
@SD1ONE 4 года назад
yes... they could have increased their fuel consumption for game balancing... don't know why they did that
@armoredp
@armoredp 4 года назад
Agreed the mud physics are MUCH better in Mudrunner, your wheels actually deform the mud and make their way through depending on the deformation. In Snow runner the mud deformation seems to be only visual, and the speed you traverse through them is just a numbers game between the traction value of your selected tire and the max traction value they programmed in for that piece of surface. And then on top of that they added scripted in speed limited areas. (Think of the snow patches in lake Kovd.)
@Dirkietje8
@Dirkietje8 4 года назад
I am just really hoping for a gamemode like Hardcore. No recovering, increased fuel consumption, but trucks get rebalanced fuel tanks, only manual loading and more stuff like that. Maybe some one will mod it, but I would prefer it if the devs acknowledged the core of the fanbase who desire a bit more of a challenge after half a year of SR.
@Orginal_Sinner
@Orginal_Sinner 4 года назад
@@armoredp i really don't enjoy the snow. I just got the upgrades and vehicles. Went back to the normal mud environments
@Orginal_Sinner
@Orginal_Sinner 4 года назад
@@Dirkietje8 i plus ultra agree with you.
@lanzroco2
@lanzroco2 3 года назад
I totally agree about the rivers. I wish someone would make maps in Snowrunner with more rivers and just water
@SD1ONE
@SD1ONE 3 года назад
Yup...I really missed river and deluge maps in snowrunner...It would be awesome if someone make those maps with snowrunner setting as mod map or devs bring something similar.
@ViktorOrArray
@ViktorOrArray 2 года назад
Another idea: mudrunner doesn’t have horror elements like the floating eyes, wolf, creepy church, echos coming from the tunnels, that kind of stuff
@SD1ONE
@SD1ONE 2 года назад
But I think If something is extra in Snowrunner then it can't be considered bad. Sure, some people may hate it but some people like me appreciate the extra effort done by the developers.
@footypatrawisesa6422
@footypatrawisesa6422 4 года назад
2:05 Bob vs uncle sam were always have a fight
@IronWolf307
@IronWolf307 4 года назад
Agree with most of the video except calling the b-6a a troll vehicle. That tractor is the secret weapon for solo getting hardcore one star deluge.
@SilverF250s
@SilverF250s 3 года назад
I’m glad they have fixed lots of these.
@jasonbell1698
@jasonbell1698 4 года назад
i forgot about being able to recall scouts in mud runner. that could have saved me a lot of time if it were in snowrunner
@xdxd4081
@xdxd4081 4 года назад
2:46-3:09 You accidently dropped on one mistake, i found out that at the mudrunner parts it said Snowrunner, and for snowrunner it said Mudrunner. If someone already said this, then remind me.
@Terrariatheuniversejooj4205
@Terrariatheuniversejooj4205 3 года назад
80% of peoples don't see this And almost everyone dont comment this ... really
@adam3per531
@adam3per531 3 года назад
ability to shut off tow vehicle is coming in phase 4 of snowrunner along with hardmode
@lando1071
@lando1071 3 года назад
You are spot on. You should send this to the developers so they can incorporate this into their next game as it's probably too late to add to snowrunner.
@vonflames9260
@vonflames9260 3 года назад
Personally, Mudrunner is the better of the two games for creating an immersive realistic setting and allowing the drab grey-scale grainy feel of how it really is like to work with Russian equipment. Endless hours of trudging through depression inducing marshland to be beat down only on your mis-judging of fuel requirements, is exactly like it is, trust Me. Snowrunner feels to Me like just another trucking simulator. Kinda like when Mad Max got all Tina Turner, pointless expensive additions at the loss of realism.
@Hurricill
@Hurricill 4 года назад
I miss the long logs in Snowrunner so much, would like to carry some Wood over those new Maps with the newer graphics
@deenanthekemoni5567
@deenanthekemoni5567 3 года назад
Can I just say I am whole heartedly addicted to this game.. brilliant atmosphere and physics based gameplay with gorgeous scenery and top notch engine sound effects. I have been lost in this game for weeks. I am preordering whatever STers releases next. 👍
@SoilentGr33n
@SoilentGr33n 3 года назад
Agreed on the winch, but also the Mudrunner Camera was so much better because of the amazing hotkey system with truck/trailer/front/back views. So much control. Now we swivel all the time.
@Mewzerr
@Mewzerr 3 года назад
I love for the troll cars from mudrunner to be introduced into snowrunner. I think they would make great troll vehicles and with the right upgrades they'd be a good option to use as a scout vehicle😁
@Japixx
@Japixx 3 года назад
I feel like both Spintires were more like tech demos and Snowrunner is fully polished game
@eratoz5096
@eratoz5096 3 года назад
I disagree with that , spintire feels like a really complet game just more indie without all the big name like ford or cat . A tech demo would just be mud deformation and a basic sample car with nothing to do kinda like beamng.drive (which is still a fantastic tech demo just not really a "game")
@cadet5126
@cadet5126 2 года назад
I 100% agree. Small scouts should have recall feature, trucks with huge space should have something to fill those gaps like unique addons, semitrailer, carriage/trailer and/or utility box for repair and refuel. One thing too that saddles should be movable like back and forth for adjustments
@trombulan
@trombulan 3 года назад
Hey, i love your vids. Will do you soms videos about Spintires as it gets regularly updates. Cheers and keep up the good content!
@TheMack177
@TheMack177 4 года назад
That is 100% true. The managed to make some things better in SnowRunner, but cut out a lot of cool and important things. Why?
@fuckyoutube4
@fuckyoutube4 4 года назад
so they can focus on developing new maps and new trucks faster?
@stevenethan4638
@stevenethan4638 4 года назад
I am still playing Mud Runner, I am having second thoughts whether to buy Snow Runner or not.....🔥
@doktorsljukex4174
@doktorsljukex4174 4 года назад
Snowrunner is a ok game but it doesnt have that many details like mudrunner. And the lack of updates makes it even worse. Overall i would recommend it.
@SD1ONE
@SD1ONE 4 года назад
if you like mudrunner, you're gonna love snowrunner, mudrunner is not gonna get any more updates
@airbornegr4815
@airbornegr4815 4 года назад
Don't waste your money. I wish I haven't wasted mine
@jochenkraus7016
@jochenkraus7016 3 года назад
I got Snowrunner when it was discounted. The different goods bring more variety. Spintires and Mudrunner are fun, but it's basically unlock garages and haul logs on every map. In Snowrunner you also find contracts on the map.
@Clogmonger
@Clogmonger 3 года назад
Snowrunner is a better game. Mudrunner is a better simulator.
@bellator11
@bellator11 3 года назад
Agree 100% with all points! Hopefully the devs will listen to this!
@trippingandpolenta
@trippingandpolenta 3 года назад
You forgot the 3D mud effect on the tyres, that gradually fell off on the tarmac (much better in Mudrunner, Snowrunner it's too "clean" for this kind of game) and the wonderful gasoline "rainbow" effect on water surface... missing in Snowrunner. :'(
@brvy3422
@brvy3422 2 года назад
this effect is in the snowrunner
@3M0T10NL3SS
@3M0T10NL3SS Год назад
What totally gets me is physics in snowrunner. It works at things only about 7 metres away from the vehicle. A great example is letting a box fall from a mountain. It just gets stuck in the miggle of fall and if you don't put a vehicle or crane near it, it just sits here and waits even when there's nothing under it
@SD1ONE
@SD1ONE Год назад
yes...that's actually same for all 3 games, In SR it is more noticiable because there's a lot going on like your various types of cargo, various trailers, etc so chances of them getting stuck in air is also high.
@MOMAZOSPATO
@MOMAZOSPATO 4 года назад
This game is in beta, I know that most things will be added and improved this year.
@marruhwahnuh
@marruhwahnuh 3 года назад
The skidder was great in Mud*Runner to clear a road that had debris or big boulders you can literally plow out of the way with the skidder. Was very, very useful. I also wish they brought back the Mud*Runner winch functions and engine functions. Only way to start your engine was hitting the start engine button. Meaning if you applied the brakes with the engine off. It won't automatically start your engine. Snow*Runner to me is a more arcade style and more user friendly than Mud*Runner. While Snow*Runner is fun new Content I still think Mud*Runner is wayyy better overall.
@uncolored2060
@uncolored2060 Год назад
Mudrunner's colors in comparison with Snowrunner's look like a comparison between GTA IV and GTA V
@HaloPlato
@HaloPlato 4 года назад
Saying snowrunner has no troll vehicles, then later complaining that the troll vehicles in snowrunner lack functionality (small scout recal)
@davidty2006
@davidty2006 4 года назад
Is the Loaf not classed as a troll vehicle? it's not a recommended scout unless you want to mess with a bread van.
@SD1ONE
@SD1ONE 4 года назад
well small scouts are less useful but we can't say that they're troll....9n other hand car amd tractor from mudrunner are completely useless
@jessegd6306
@jessegd6306 4 года назад
I wouldn't say the car and tractor are completely useless, as one could potentially still scout with one and deliver fuel/repairs with the other. It's just that they're TERRIBLE at those jobs.
@CBerr
@CBerr Год назад
Playing mudrenner as a kid always creeped me out the sound of whistling diesels in the pitch black woods was creepy and awesome.
@stumpusMaximus
@stumpusMaximus 4 года назад
Now you can turn the driver off in upcoming SR update, or arms at least. I love the fact you can lift entire trucks in the air and carry them and that you have to buy trucks and level up to progress in maps - along with tires and suspension. The biggest boring thing after completing MR is there was nothing to come back for other than the same old log runs... SR opens up huge replayability . Carrying multiple cargo on top of existing cargo is brilliant or leaving the trailer and using the truck and crane to go fetch cargo in obscure areas and load it onto the parked trailer. Just brill. Then you have cargo and trailers that block roads when you topple them and trucks that go across several maps to the objective. If you topple one it’s more fun to drive a recovery vehicle to fix it than to return it to a garage 2 or 3 maps away to redo it.
@djhiggins4431
@djhiggins4431 3 года назад
You can pull 2nd truck in snow runner with engine off now, mostly you're right about mudrunner though, the problem I think is that snowrunner has alot more going on so they cut some small details to simplify everything and get the game released as quickly as possible. They are slowly updating it and it is steadily getting better. Next generation game will be crazy I think
@x7bsytchannel
@x7bsytchannel 3 года назад
I hope they take this as a reference for future updates.
@yusufkadir5526
@yusufkadir5526 4 года назад
true facts
@Wolf-wc8kl
@Wolf-wc8kl 4 года назад
But I really like snowrunner as same
@kyboy5
@kyboy5 4 года назад
Really wish B130 was in snowrunner I used it all the time in mud runner
@armoredp
@armoredp 4 года назад
Or the C255, or the C4310 , or the C375 or the D537. I mean these are classic offroad trucks they seemingly omitted because they only wanted new vehicles in Snowrunner.
@peddy911
@peddy911 3 года назад
But with difflock and chained wheels, otherwise, it's gonna be useless.
@fazinal7383
@fazinal7383 4 года назад
Hold up, wait a minute is that Micheal from gta 5 as American driver?🤔2:05 Nope but beard is soo similar
@jaymesnin
@jaymesnin 4 года назад
Trevor's hillbilly brother
@pedromallol6498
@pedromallol6498 Год назад
You forgot to mention the mud psychics (mud build up on tires) are way better on MudRunner than SnowRunner.
@xtremeplayz1124
@xtremeplayz1124 3 года назад
You have to consider that most off the things you stated in this video are for the realistic part like the winch if a truck was stuck in mud and another truck came to how it out the truck stuck would help bye at least rotating the tires slowly.
@dcom8423
@dcom8423 Год назад
When I play on keyboard worst mistake is that SR don't have CC... Finger on up key for 10-20 minutes hurts.
@raah5583
@raah5583 Год назад
Mudrunners lada is actually op af if you do not touch soft soil. Just navigate trough the thick forest and use winch when needing to cross a wet surface. Fast af.
@rasmaster2111
@rasmaster2111 4 года назад
I like the style of mudrunner more as well
@ZoMTDU
@ZoMTDU 4 года назад
1 of the reasons Mudrunner feels better than Snowrunner is because since Mudrunner is the successor of SpinTires they was more than likely using the assets from SpinTires. That's why all the trucks have their own options.
@benjaminhigham3624
@benjaminhigham3624 4 года назад
Is it too much to ask for all of these things and literally all of the vehicles in that game? Also, the add on one makes me sad it was so much cooler. Also I miss the logging. Damn they really left out some good stuff that they literally have the assets for. Challenge maps were great. And scouts feels really weak but so do most trucks in that game in my opinion. I don't know if it is more realistic but the really limited top speeds and super muddy mud just doesn't feel right to me compared to the last game. I wish everything from the last game carried over including maps.
@МихаилЛуньков-ь6и
@МихаилЛуньков-ь6и 3 года назад
Because Mudrunner was done by the Russians and the west helped a little bit, and the last game is completely yours, and you don't even forgive attention to the fact that the Urals look poorly compared to Mudrunner, because there is a hand of a Russian developer, and here you are west lovers of tricking and harassing Потому что Mudrunner делали русские и чучуть запад помогал а последняя игра полностью ваша да вы даже необрощаете внимание на то что урал выгледет убого по сровнению с Mudrunner потому что там рука русского разработчика а тут вы запад любители угондошить и напакастить
@benjaminhigham3624
@benjaminhigham3624 3 года назад
@@МихаилЛуньков-ь6и oh I didn't know that. Yeah definitely, I actually liked the old look better. At least with the trucks and add ons, I think the environments look better in the new game
@МихаилЛуньков-ь6и
@МихаилЛуньков-ь6и 3 года назад
@@benjaminhigham3624 The graphics may be better, but the physics of water and mud is just disgusting and plus the old versions can be made better with mods than the new one I have a question why your developers won't see us Russians so hard for them to create an original model of cars ?? even the controls in the game are sharpened for gamepads Графика то может и лутше но физика воды и грязи просто отвротительно и плюс старые версии можно модами зделать лутше чем новая у меня вапрос почему ваши разработчики так не навидят нас русских им было сложно зделать орегинальную модель машин??даже упровление в игре заточено под геймпады
@benjaminhigham3624
@benjaminhigham3624 3 года назад
@@МихаилЛуньков-ь6и I have no idea. And yes I agree. I prefer the old mud physics. In SnowRunner your truck gets slowed down so unrealistically if you go over the slightest dist patch in a road it's ridiculous. I don't really remember the water physics so I can't say and I know nothing about mods. But yeah it's a shame, MudRunner had much better physics in a lot of areas. Especially just speed in general.
@МихаилЛуньков-ь6и
@МихаилЛуньков-ь6и 3 года назад
@@benjaminhigham3624 At least one of them understands me, but some at all do not understand, thanks, and yes, I am Russian and I talk with taboo through the translator, how difficult it is at first to insert your comment to read then to write mine to copy to insert when they come up with a normal translator, not a text one, but a normal sound one and which will be free and not as it is finished and worth the dough Хоть один меня понел ато некаторые напроч не понемают спосибо и да я русский и я с табой разговариваю через переводчик как же сложно сначало твой коментарий вставить прочитать потом мой написать скапировать вставить когда же придумают нармальный переводчик не текстовый а нармальный звуковой и каторый будет бесплатным а не как есть конченые и стоют бабки
@brockbajari7486
@brockbajari7486 2 года назад
I feel the driver one makes sense cuz I believe that you are 1 person going to different regions
@redlion13bravod66
@redlion13bravod66 4 года назад
Man I forgot about the recall they need to add that in SN, my hope for the different loaders is they will add them in when they do the Wisconsin dlc for logging we’ll see though
@justuslm
@justuslm 3 года назад
The winch not having a "pull" mode is especially annoying when lifting vehicles. For example, I wanted to load a truck onto a Western Star Twinsteer, but as soon as you attach the crane winch, it starts steering at max angle. As a result, I could only get it lifted on backwards and very carefully. It actually took multiple tries because when lifting the front on the it did manage to fall off due to the steering.
@garrettvaillancourt5751
@garrettvaillancourt5751 3 года назад
Then your doing it wrong because I’ve done that like 50 times and not had a problem
@justuslm
@justuslm 3 года назад
@@garrettvaillancourt5751 Forward or backwards? Because every time I grab a truck (not a scout) on a crane, it steers and/or drives.
@lawnmowerdude
@lawnmowerdude 4 года назад
A few things at 6:40. There are longer “larger” addons for longer for trucks. The service trailer addon when fitted is longer if needed. And regarding flatbeds not being longer. It would serve no point for them to be longer if they couldn’t slot a full additional cargo slot. Also in mudrunner any truck that wasn’t a scout could pull “larger” trailers you designated for the biggest trucks.
@mattzaly2161
@mattzaly2161 3 года назад
I'm making comeback to this games after some while( i'm a KB+M player). camera more wild in snowrunner. I've mastered the restricted but snapped camera of spin/mudrunner, it's much simpler, why they change it. I always drive from front view, doing so I can spot troubles such big rocks, or tree branches. Also, I think no engine brake when downhill in SR. Last, give back the gear stick throttle, it smoothen throttle controls and not making my fingers fatigue.
@JasperTheJackal
@JasperTheJackal 4 года назад
I will always love mudrunner. Have it on PC, XB, and PS4. I was super super super excited for snowrunner and had preordered it for XB. When I got it, I was extremely disappointed. Played about a full 6 hours, havent touched it since. I'm not even going to look at the mods when they come out. I've got almost 700hrs logged on steam for mudrunner. Started working on my own mods too. Severely disappointed about snowrunner. Wish I could have gotten my money back.
@R421Excelsior
@R421Excelsior 2 года назад
The unique addon thing looks good and might be implementable based on the region. A trailer bought in US could have the US design, while the same trailer bought in Russia would have the Russian design. Addons themselves could work like that too based on where they were mounted. An american truck could have a russian addon if it was mounted in a russian garage. Troll vehicles would be even funnier if you could completely rebuild them. An FWD minivan upgraded with AWD, bigger wheels, raised suspension, wider axle track and matching engine could become an unstoppable Monster Truck. And some current events have shown us how useful a damn tractor can be. With big and wide wheels it could rescue anything from anywhere.
@MileHighMountainAdventures
@MileHighMountainAdventures 3 года назад
You personally like the games basis being about Logging. Snowrunner is the essence of what it’s like being in the Alaskan or Canadian wilderness trucking supplies that are needed or laying around. The devs aren’t lazy it’s up to the player’s to help create the content and entire makeup of Snowrunner and what it can evolve into next. Like maybe incorporating the desert and delivering oil and getting stuck is sand and rivers and quick sand. The weather can start to be a big factor like if it gets to cold or white out blizzards and people’s Rigs get completely buried and you got to get it out someway cause you couldn’t recall it or skip in-game time.
@SD1ONE
@SD1ONE 3 года назад
That still doesn't explain why russian and american trucks have same addons....you don't have to agree with it, it's just my personal opinion
@MileHighMountainAdventures
@MileHighMountainAdventures 3 года назад
@@SD1ONE No I completely agree with you on that cause it does take away from the overall look of the game.
@IWasAllLikeG93
@IWasAllLikeG93 3 года назад
There is at least one unique addon for larger trucks that differs from the smaller trucks. I can't remember exactly which trucks it fits on, but there is a larger sized maintenance addon for some trucks with a longer frame.
@Cardboardtruck-vc2qw
@Cardboardtruck-vc2qw 3 года назад
Jeez man the thumping in between everything scares the shit out of me because it’s 1am
@Drummercommander
@Drummercommander 4 года назад
I'm fine with most of the differences but the empty space on some trucks is weird indeed! It's been bugging me since the release
@lawnmowerdude
@lawnmowerdude 4 года назад
I would love to see typical tractors in this game.
@germany3472
@germany3472 3 года назад
Someone can healp me, i wanna buy the snowrunner but its so expensive and the mudrunner have a offer of 10 dollars in ps4, i should take the offer or snowrunner its way better, just the graphics are amazing dude
@mahj
@mahj 2 года назад
I've only played snowrunner, and knew next to nothing about mudrunner. Seeing that Russian driver pop up at 2:00 was hilarious.
@kisshenrik28
@kisshenrik28 Год назад
bro,about that winch part, there is no speed limit, its just the handbreak bug, which idk why they still cant fix, and i miss the wood cracking sound
@studdly232
@studdly232 3 года назад
A blade tool would be nice in some of those rocky roads easily push them off the road to make it easier when hauling a big semi trailer
@vadenummela9353
@vadenummela9353 4 года назад
snowrunner feels more like a spinoff game than a sequel. Spintyres to mudrunner was an upgrade, mudrunner to snowrunner feels like a different game.
@davidty2006
@davidty2006 4 года назад
Well by phase 3 were back where it all began with logging. I sure hope that we get trucks like the K700. That thing was great for scouting.
@Krasnny1
@Krasnny1 10 месяцев назад
the b 6a is kinda useful, i mean its slow but its a tractor and its diff-lock is always on. it dont have suspensions so any little dent on the road will make the tractor hop.
@SD1ONE
@SD1ONE 10 месяцев назад
there's a similar tractor in spintires and that one is can do actual stuff like pulling fuel, repair trailers and even has loader to load logs while b6a is comparitively less useful
@benjamin_luscombe
@benjamin_luscombe 3 года назад
Got mudrunner today for 8$ on g2a and it’s so much fun so far!
@Arska.A.Tiikko
@Arska.A.Tiikko Год назад
Very nice video to watch, especially when have played both games.
@markolacic1519
@markolacic1519 3 года назад
The trailer sizes I would disagree, I believe the logic behind it is that bigger, more powerful trucks are capable of carrying loads more easily and go through tough terrain with ease. But on the other hand I've started from Snowrunnner, didn't ever play Mudrunner so idk just makes sense to me this way
@thatguynathan5816
@thatguynathan5816 3 года назад
A lot if these have been fixed. For example the longer trucks can now have three long cargo modules. Snow runner is still in development even when its released
@Nickstar-tj4py
@Nickstar-tj4py 4 года назад
In snowrunner it’s same driver travelling to these places
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