98 YEAR OLD VICTIM?? Criminal Lawyer Reacts to Mom Had No Idea Her Son Is Actually The Killer 

What exactly is this trend with using the word unalive? Is it suppose to soften the blow of death? Like, ok you're simply in another reality now, no big deal or what? Or should I google this nonsense?

How outrageous. wtf is wrong with the justice system?

that's so terrible to hear. terrible judge. going to the military is NOT what these types of predators need, predators thrive in the military. they become more disconnected from humanity and are thrust into a position/feeling of power. so many horror stories of rapes committed by US forces in Iraq, Afghanistan, any country we've invaded. why wouldn't a psychopath/sociopath want to join the military?

What a horrible tragedy ! Judges should PAY for outcomes like that .

Being a "predator" is sooooo very easy these days. Beware people, psychos are on Facebook too!!

Fr 🤣

He's a very confused boy with mom issues. I suspect there is little or no love between them. He is trying to individuate by leaving his parents' home (in his imagination)... but he's already committed very serious crimes, and as Mr Rivers says, the bus has left and is on its way.

Rt e s e

My mother just passed at 95 with family around. Poor Margaret to get in the path of this monster.

My condolences on your loss.

@ lydiadevries8408 and @ScubaFanatic60 : I'm sorry for your losses, yet grateful for your loved ones that they were able to have their families with them when they passed.

Supported? 🤔

My Grandma lived to 98 also it was such a blessing to have my favorite girl all that time she lived to see my grandchildren born, I couldn’t imagine something like this happening to her smfh people are sick 🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽🙏

I’m so sorry about your daughter.

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My condolences.

I'm so sorry for the loss of your daughter. ❤

I'm so sorry about your daughter

Wow so your friend from the past did it? Just awful man, my heart goes out to your family and i hope he rots

Omg that’s AMAZING!!!! What a bittersweet moment after years of not knowing 😊

Did he say why he did it?

So sorry for your loss🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

So sorry for your horrific loss! Thank God she got Justice⚖️May she RIP🙏🏾🌈❤️

❤️‍🔥 Thanks for sharing. I’m sure that just one story like this makes CLR hard work worth the sweat they put in!! ❤️

I really hope Bruce sees this. And congrats! Idkw it's like, but I've heard it's horrendous. You stayed strong & I salute you!

Good for you, good luck! 😊😊😊

​@@Anabee3I was just going to comment the same thing. Seeing a successful guy in a suit and tie understand and give sympathy and advice, especially when others have dissed you, can be comforting and give you strength. What Bruce and Michael are doing is more important than they probably knew when they started. The humor helps take the edge off too.

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Nyah, they don't care unless you are a ped0... And that's because so many prisoners have been sa'd as kids.

With any luck.

Oh I'm sure somebody will be very kind to him... Let him clean the floor in his cell, wash his clothes, and walk around the yard holding his pocket... With kool-aid on his lips n a bow in his hair...

It's Where KARMA Lives!

When he comes across some badass prisoners who love their grandmas, it is not going to end well. Karma meet a**hole.

I obviously have no idea about how things are arranged, but the dude eliminating a source of light is sketchy as hell.

Tell us more.

Wow tell us more , was he creepy ? How did he present ? Was his mental illness is idk but your perspective would be interesting

His Mom is not clueless, that she has a "stranger danger" issue. Danger is right next to you, she is doing "something" to distract the interrogator.

​@allanmason3201 Well, the app on his phone where he hid his murderous activities is called "Dark."

She seemed like she was actually trying to get him help, as well. It must have been a nightmare for her.

Tbf she raised this mom who raised this killer. These people are created, make no mistake and it is done via their upbringing. Neglect, abuse, addiction etc all factor into who a human becomes. It’s why nearly every predator were themselves once victims. No, don’t even start with the “So every victim turns out bad?!?!” That’s not what I said so gtfo if that’s what you’re typing

​@@TonyDanza4Lyfe he was not related to the elderly woman.

@@TonyDanza4Lyfe you're over 50, aren't you?

True that

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Right?! He is conflating evil with immaturity.

That's one of those rules isn't. Oh, what do they call them? The ten commandments.

i agree, when i was 17 i did a lot of dumb shit but i didn’t want to hurt people and understood people and animals were not my playthings. I understand what he’s saying though, the kid is a psychopath on top of being a teenager. So he’s got no perspective and he’s empty of values or morals.

Agreed. Teens are dumb but there’s still a sense of right and wrong and I’d argue that a 17 yr old knows this. If they don’t - something else’s is going on besides being young and dumb.

@@1tiredmommaRissa I would argue a large majority of teens are level headed and a part of the most educated generation in humanity. My 15 year old cousin is very very intelligent and he told me a lot of kids nowadays really are planning their future, it’s the few bad ones that give that generation a terrible reputation

👍 This is the comment I was thinking of ~ 🙏 THANK YOU for writing it ✍️✅✅✅ I’d like to know if this woman (his mother) finds counselling that helps her. I’ve known difficult traumas (against me &/or my children) but nothing THIS serious & outrageous, however, now even after decades of different kinds of counseling ~ im still in a state of shock. It began in my childhood and some studies have found that a child freezes in that mental-age. Thankfully this woman is already an adult!

IKR ??? Blew me tfu

Mom was getting bad vibes all around her, just didn't know they eminated from her son.

​@@terrybeasley5931Exactly. Parents have a massive blind spot. Just look how Casey Anthony's parents coddled and indulged her and walked on eggshells around her after the murder. They were obviously afraid of her but couldn't admit it to themselves.

The vast majority of families of killers like this didn't have a clue. It's rare when family does know.

❤sooo sad ❤

Not to come off rude. I assume she had succumbed to her injuries in the care of your facility?

@@SunflowerMama1627 she was in a coma for a few days but yes she eventually passed. I do think on whether that was in someway a kindness as the thought of spending the last few years of your life recovering from such a traumatic event is haunting. It really does stay with you, the patients you've looked after and hoping they're okay on their journey in life

I don't understand why anyone would try to "save" a 90-some year old person in this condition; set her free, anything else is just needless torture.

@@MK-sd8zr uhhh because that's our declaration and job at the hospital.....? 😅

Booyah

Me too bro! 😂

smh she’s never gonna pay rent no matter how much her only fans makes

Grandma is armed and dangerous and won’t be taken alive.

LMFAO

That's why he made sure to put "victim" with an arrow. We probably all immediately jumped to Grandma Rivers getting arrested. 😂

So did mine! 3 months shy of 108.

Fascinating! You knew an old lady!

@@RancorousSea Ok. Boomer

That means they born without the right to vote. I wish I would have asked my great grandma about it. She died at 99 and had seen a lot.

My grandpa well over 100 and born in Ireland and moved to the United States because of IRA and troubles in Ireland..the stories they can tell

“Disrespectful” not rude… some parents SAY respect when they mean complete control, total obedience, blind loyalty… She couldn’t care less that he thinks… his parents being his caregivers makes him a burden as a child, he causes them constant heartbreak, has “honestly probably never made either of them proud” and even to the extent that he hasn’t done ANYTHING good… the only issue she has with any of that being said about her and her husband as legal guardians of the child speaking is that he dropped an f bomb in that last thing he said. The F bomb was the only thing notable in that screed and her issue was about “respect”?! No way, it was definitely about control. She doesn’t dispute any of his negative self talk or beliefs about his family but she does demand he phrase it differently so she doesn’t look like the kind of parent who lets her child cuss in public 🙄

This little POS ended an old woman 😔

Go grandma.

She must have had some great stories.

My grandma slept with an Ice PICK !!

Wow. So sorry to hear that she outlived your dad, her son. I’m sure that was devastating for her. I was my great grandmas caretaker and it was beyond soul crushing when her son, my papa died. She had dementia and I didn’t realize she forgot he died and it came up in conversation. It was like I just told her for the very fist time he died and I felt SO horrible for mentioning it!!! I truly didn’t know she forgot he died. It was the saddest thing. 😭

Kick ass grandma!

Ummm... your lawyer only. 🙃

​@@notme2day you're going to want to be honest with your Doctor when you've been taking viagra. Trust me. And maybe also your lawyer. And possibly your priest.

@@notme2daydefinitely your doctor! If you don’t disclose things like drugs you take you can accidentally cause them to kill you!

​@@notme2day Why wouldn't you be honest with your doctor? 😂

@@justjohnny420 Sometimes it's just too difficult to explain how that Spongebob bobble-head lubed itself up, and then forced it's way so deep you couldn't reach it anymore. I'm just assuming. I don't really know. 🤷🏻

That must have been heartbreaking to see her family in court. I don't understand how someone like that can ever get out. How long did he get locked up for?

@@Goldie789 for 15. In Canada, first degree is automatically no parole for minimum 25 years. The original trial was early 2009. So yeah, 15 years should be up soon. Unless they keep him in .

@@serenity6415Criminal punishments are a joke here in Canada. Must have been difficult to be a juror and hearing the details of that case.

I’m a proponent for the DPenalty when there is solid evidence bc people that do stuff like this rarely truly change. Why waste tax payer money on someone who took a life. Give them their day in court and be done with them after appeals have been exhausted. And I mean more than just one kind of evidence. So dna plus cell phone tracking or video footage or anything that is verifiable besides witness testimony since that’s sketchy when it comes to human memory. So let’s say DNA blood and fingerprint tho AND location data, that’s enough for me. Always wonder what people from countries without DPenalty think about us having here in the states. Since it’s been what 20+ years since it was a thing in Canada I’m sure most people don’t remember what it was like to have it.

Geeeeez! How unbelievable frustrating just reading about that. I can't imagine how much more-so for you, having bn a part of the jury. Sending you my deepest, genuine empathy (whether you want it or not, friend.)

Thankfully though... it's usually what puts the nail in their coffin to catch and convict them. Just like idiots live streaming their crimes on SM.

"My great-grandmother, not the one that lives in the basement."🤣😂🤣😂 I'm sure it's a nice cellar.😂

It reminded me of a South Park episode where they are going to do a prostitution sting so the chief (male) dresses up as a female prositute. He gets picked up by various johns, “services them,” and as soon as the man gets off he pulls out his gun and badge and tells them they’re under arrest. Meanwhile the other officers in the surveillance van have this horrified look on their face. Fantastic episode.

@@cruisinguy6024 I remember it and you painted the picture pretty accurately 🤣🤣

@@cruisinguy6024good episode

I mean tbf a lot of people bait these guys to expose them. Skeeter Jean is the goat lmao

Yeppers and dads too. Parents in general seem to have a over supply of cognitive dissonance. Maybe u need that to parent on a certain level but seriously parents truly let stuff slide.

Part of that is because if they admit that reality in they would then have to admit to themselves that in some way or another they failed as a parent and are, in a weird way, partly responsible for what happened

Oh Bruce, so glad you didn't stop swearing because someone complained. I can guarantee that's why you have such a huge following in Ireland...my Mom was Irish and she swore like a sailor.

Correct. I personally know of a prison warden who genuinely tries to convince herself that her son is not in fact, one of if not the worst, most sexually depraved ,meth distributors and pushers in town. The expression of looking through Rose coloured glasses doesn't even come close to what she refuses to acknowledge

Yes I call that mom goggles. I suffer from debilitating mom goggles.

Da dum tsss👌👏👏

Especially WHEN her ONLY dream Was TO live TO 100😢😢

You mean this young thug, criminal, murderer. We see his kind on TV daily.

So very sad and frightening.

Because you're a parent who was engaged while bringing up your children. Today's parents let kids be babysit by social media.

Could be that the kid was one hell of liar. More then likely the case

It's not oblivion, it's a denial.

They often don't care, that's how, or have idealised image of their little pumpkins in their naive heads.

My whole childhood I was a good, never got into any trouble. Same with my sisters. I was (still am) very close with my mom but terrified of her if I did anything bad. She knew everything about me and my every step. I had room to mess up and she was always teaching me and always kind but I didn’t dare do anything bad. Sometimes I wish I pushed the limits a little just for fun but I’m so grateful for how I was raised. My mom often feels guilty for raising us the way she did because she feels she was too harsh or strict. But my sisters and I thank her often and reassure her that she was a great mom. Especially when we see our childhood friends living completely different hard lives. I wish they had a mom like I have.

I honestly think she dodged a bullet without ever realizing that. So many of these monsters end up murdering their closest family.

I read that as Keith Morrison! 😂

Me too he's the best. ​@@triciabrannan122

That's the opening line of about a hundred true crime videos this week.

@@triciabrannan122same

me purposely f’ing up the vibe of any room i walk into just to lessen my chances of becoming a victim.

Why shouldn't u get punished for what you actually did? Come clean and take your punishment is better for your future character building. .

@@kathyjenkins1222 That would only be true if future employers didn't prejudge those that have been through the system, and if the system only convicted people for ímmoral crímes. I'm sure I don't need to remind you that in the USA, federally it's *illegal* to possess 🪴 but *still legal* to possess sIaves.

​@@Naptosisyou might want to examine your victim mentality. You would protect yourself from a known potential threat, that's only logical. There is a lot you can do to make an honest living.

I had similar problem but I said I haven't seen weekend at berneys yet.

@@kathyjenkins1222punished for fighting for your safety? 😂

Ahhh 😯 A missed opportunity 😜😂

​@@rockmillar8641🤣😂🤣 Yup!

I thought about Eminem.

Im not sure you can prove his mother believe him.

I think he had them switched but had the definitions right otherwise unless I’m just stupid lol like CEOs are often psychopaths or have psychopathic tendencies but a lot of serial killers at sociopaths

Nope​@@PhatJohnnyShicken

There's a long explanation in Fishead by Hare and Babiak.

@@PhatJohnnyShickenpsychopaths lack empathy and remorse to a higher degre than sociopaths. On a sliding scale, psychopaths are more intense than sociopaths.

@@monkeydance3894 I thought the difference was, very simply and extremely generalized, impulse control.

She should have paid attention to what her son was up to, IMHO.

Just now figuring out how several pets died.

Lmao police don't care.

@@theworldofwoo8320 I mean yah you ain’t wrong but damn chill this one cop did something nice once, finally

You have a good mom.

@@danajacobs9097 Or maybe he’s a bad seed…😅

@@darwinawardcommittee 😂😂😂

My mother waited until i was at school to go through my stuff and read my diary. I still hate her for it, 50 years later.

@darwinawardcommittee There are no bad seeds, unless your talking about plants. Calling a child a bad seed is an excuse adults use for poor parenting.

😂 "Tato"

@@marsha1758 Are you anti-tato? ;)

God is a fictional character from an iron age myth

Thankfully she was deceased when he did unspeakable things to her. Guessing you didn't make it to the end to see the light sentencing?!

​@asafoster7954 this is irrelevant. You have the right to believe as you choose. Let others do the same please. Live and let live.

​@asafoster79In ypur opinoon. Tothe lady who made the comment, God is a diety. You have no right to tell her He does'nt exist. YOU have no proof he doesn't. You have the t right to your opinion, like shevd I es. NOT the right to state that He doesn't exist.

This happened where I live in wadsworth Ohio.. the mom is a nurse and a good lady.

Also, I’ve watched the interrogation before and still wanted to hear your goofy jokes on it. Bless the Rivers.

Actually, he is eligible for parole due to a new statute. According to an article I just read. He could be out in 18 to 30 years.

I agree with the statute. Eligibility doesn’t automatically mean he’ll get parole. But imo minors should usually get a second chance, even if that second chance is when they’re middle-aged or old. What he did was monstrous and heinous, no doubt about it. But he was still a minor. America’s weird custom of trying kids as adults whenever the crime is evil enough always seemed kind of arbitrary for me.

Yup, he's one of those channels that you can't pass up when it posts something new. Instantly. Must watch instantly. I'll watch this the moment I get back from the weed store.

​@serenity6415 smoke a spliff for me fam I'm on the road back to Houston right now lol 💯 🤘🏾😎

@hbk-hotboy713 Will do! I'm all set now, both cbd and thc. I call that double-fisting, when I have both going.

Sleep is overrated right? Right?…. Or is that just my insomnia talking 😂

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What the heck is an energy practitioner??

What?... You don't have imaginary friends? LMAO

Grandma Rivers keeps us on our toes. xD

Teen girls never kill anyone, damn males.

No kidding...

“Pull the diaper to the side and have sex with it” 🤣 come on Bruce!! You called the girl with no legs “it”😅you’re too much sometimes

Too be fair though... doesn't sound like everybody is related to everybody and covering crap up in Ohio. Guess thats the big difference.

Whoops 😮 did I miss the verdict for John O'Keefe?? Anyway stay safe 😜🕊️🇺🇲❤️

@@rockmillar8641 Nope... at least 4 more weeks of trial which resumes today for O'Keefe. ✌

Unfortunately Booty Warrior is unavailable as he was released from prison. But there will always be a "Bubba"

Big hugs ❤

My two best friends murdered my ex. IDK what hurts worse

That’s all you can think of? What about the horror Margaret went through?

she probably has kids that’s probably why she only thinking of the mother

@@wolfhamel9815 I’m a mother too. I’m still thinking of the victim.

@@flaminhotyoshi7403 some people are different tho🤷🏾‍♂️

​@@flaminhotyoshi7403 it could also easily be that thinking of the mother in this case is easier than thinking of what sheer hell that woman went through.

No, they don't really care.

I'm pretty sure jnmates are happy to find out about what someone did, so they can get an upper hand over them

Single mom activities

idk why everyone is acting like the mom is totally fine w what the kid did. Looks like she held him accountable during interrogation and even complied with police requests to see the phone.

@@UnknownUnknown1 Never said she's ok with it, but next-level oblivious. Or saw signs but ignored them. What we do see is bizarre: so cold, she treats him like a resented burden, not someone she loves & is supposed to be raising. Plus yelling at him for cussing is so weird under the circumstances. It adds up to the distinct impression that she's not been a great mum.