Absolutely perfect video sir, thank you! I wish all RU-vid videos would just get to the point like this while still being informative, and not just for firearms content.
man, I'm really enjoying youre videos...i never subscribe to RU-vid firearm channels...until today. I appreciate the fact that half of the video doesn't consist of youre opinions, although I think id probably appreciate them. Just youre tests on ballistics and results...very informative Jack. Thanks again.
Agreed....some of these youtube warriors are thinking the 115 is better because of penetration...when in fact the 147 having more energy more expansion equaling more damage..👍
From what I’ve seen 147 grain loads usually have around 320 ft/lbs of energy, most 115 grain loads have around 400. Dont get me wrong, I carry 147 grain HSTs, but energy isn’t in the 147 grain’s favor. I like 147 grain because it shoots softer, quieter, and launches a bigger chunk of lead into a target. More lead equals greater potential for expansion, more momentum to drive deep into the target, and in the event of a failure to expand, a longer bullet does more damage tumbling.
@@jasonvoorhees2701 Energy transfer is what stops people, period. Penetration is nice, but I would rather have my bullets expand more and transfer more energy into my target, then over penetrate my target without expending all of it's potential energy.
Ive shot 147 for a long time in my G19, impulse just feels right I like theres not much over penetration. great defensive gun ammo, however I would lean to the 124 for combat use.
your right, a draw for penetration, however the 124 grain left a cleaner set of holes. though this video is simple it teaches allot. thank you my friend.
9mm performance always blows my mind.. thanks for informative display ! would kinda like to see same 3 vs cantelope etc for damage comparison. confident the 147 would take lead. another test against hardshell of some type. which ones roll around inside vs blasting thru 🙏💪👍
Thanks for a great video. In tests I have performed on soft targets, all else being equal, round-nose ammo has more penetration but flat-nose ammo results in a larger wound track.
Moral of the story : Buy 115gr, because it's cheaper, plentiful on store shelves and does the job like the other two. Most buyers seem to have an affinity for bigger numbers on the ammo boxes... and bigger numbers = bigger prices. Good video, thanks!
What a great video even though the 115&124 punched thru one more metal pieces it’s hard to deny the big dent made by the slower 147 but every one knows that speed is what destroys armor!!! Overall I highly enjoyed this presentation keep it up brother thanks
@Purified Water II when I put on my seatbelt I don’t do it thinking that I might be in a wreck! My body armor to me is just a little bit more protection, But when it is your time to fight any extra help is just that a little extra help it’s also the reason I have certain rounds for specific situations
@Purified Water II i get what you're thinking but you have to keep in mind that of todays time people " bad guys" are actually preparing a manner to resist or withhold being penetrated by rounds.
The standard German load was a 124g ball…I’m confident the Germans performed extensive testing as they are known to do…that’s what I buy when given a choice as I think it’s a good balance between velocity and penetration…the 147 fp would be a real stopper IMO too…
For the price (and "Every Day Plinking"), the 115 grain is great. For self defense, I always carry 124 grain "+ P" hollow points (that is, if I'm not ccw a .45 with 230 + P rounds, or a 10 mm with Barnes in it). But, that's just my "2-Cents" worth...! If money were "No Object", practice with what you carry.
@6.5grendelupper That ammo is HOT!! I didn't realize it was as HOT as it was when I bought $500 rounds of the WINCHESTER ACTIVE DUTY M1152 AMMO!!!! Seen a video of a guy shooting a 9mm carbine and getting like 1500fps out of it!!!!
Wish you could try my 90 grn 380 acp round nose I loaded into 9mm cases. It’s a pretty hot load to function reliably in my sub compact 9mm. I would bet it’s moving very fast.
odd findings for me. i watched another video where a flat nose 115 gr bullet, in ballistic gel, went through 2 entire 16 inch blocks, while the 115 gr round nose fmj barely made it through one
Penetration vs Expansion & Energy Transfer @Jonah Patton although unpopular, your opinion is statistically and strategically accurate. While expansion and energy transfer should be valued, penetration is the most disabling measure of a cartridge. There's a reason that military cartridges have trended smaller while their load has become bigger. On top of that, favoring a penetration round mutes your adversaries use of some walls and increases your rounds ability to get thru thick clothing and some "bullet proofing" materials. The only time penetration should not be your priority is when collateral damage is a likely issue (home defense with kids in the next room etc)
I think I'd try this with proper support under the full length of the bottom edge of the plates, there could be some flex in play, at the outer edges where there's no support, that might skew the results. Just an observation. interesting test, thanks for doing it!
One important factor determining more or less power would be barrel length. Heavier bullets tend to better perform on shorter barrels vs lighter bullets on shorter barrels. What was the barrel length of your gun?
I was just curious, what Gauge or MM thickness was the sheetmetal? I have read that here in the US the FBI testing is done with 18 gauge 3" apart, 2 sheets IFIRC. (It is to simulate a car door) This is 1 of 5 or 6 barrier penetration tests they use to evaluate their hollow-point carry ammo. 9mm 124gr now is as good as 40 cal ammo in every category! Thanks to Hornady's "Critical Duty" Ammo That is amazing. This has been proven from their testing, and shown in the data. Solid FMJ's should have even better penetration than hollowpoints. Hollowpoint ammo is designed for making massive wound cavities. Solid FMJ's are not. They are for target practice, (in general terms I am speaking about here.) Solid FMJs go straight thru a target with near zero expansion and small wound channels. That is why it takes multiple shots of FMJ's to equal the damage done by 1 or 2 shots of a quality hollowpoint ammo fired at the correct speed.
124 is good enough for me I tried many brands up to 165 grain on my cz p07 and I managed to hit the targets center more with the blazer 124grain plus is cheap and plentiful
The last time I bought Blazer 124gr it was $17.47 a box...now it is much more expensive. WM had 115gr at $19.97 a box last time I looked. My carbine loved the Blazer 124's....dead center at 50 yds all day long...wish I still had it...sigh
