9mm Load Up (Accuracy) Tite Group and Universal Powder, 125gr Bullet 

Yep ... Thanks larry559... Some of these loads with titegroup you see here are used in competition ... Be confident for sure... The only wild card is can we shoot straight... : )

Yep I like doing these kinda tests... I have some decent things coming in 9, 38 and 45 be honest I cant wait either! : )

Thanks for commenting nice to know folks are digging it! : ) Im in!

Thanks Norm!! : )

Thanks for taking the time to comment 4thaggie.. The 1.135 works too. I find the 1.145 a little to close to make inconsistent mistakes but do feed in most my guns. The 1.125 seems to be the most reliable ... you can always adjust a little for accuracy if needed. I use just enough crimp to return the flaired case mouth to normal. No taper at all.. happy shooting to ya!!!

yep everything you said is the reason I like it as well! Great powder that goes a long way!

Avid Water fowler Hello there... I’m a beginner, made my first successful 500 rounds of 9mm of CFE. But went out and bought 5 pounds of Titegroup. I pay very close attention to my powder fill on when I get to the bullet seating stage. Pretty noticeable with the CFE cause I load 5.1 grains. Will I be able to see my charge ok with the Titegroup? Think I’ll be using around 20% less

@@damon323 When you load in batches with a single press, once you have a batch filed with a compact powder like tightgroup, say a batch of 100, just shine a penlight on all the cartridges at once. Any that don't have the powder loaded to the same level will stand out. It is an easy, good double check on the powder charges for safety. It works good as a check on hard to see light and/or dense charges.

The universal powder is not bad but it is dirty

Thank you brother. Welcome to the channel👍👍👍

Hey Dima Prok... Thanks for your input... I thought our thumbs were all the same size!! : ) Never hurts for us to step up the game and do better.... I am having fun for sure with this testing!

Thanks again... Yeah being attacked by chickens can make ya loose all your cool points! : ) Sounds like some good powders there ... can't go wrong at all !

Thank ya NYC Reloader! Some pretty good stuff! hope ya having a great New Year!

elvis ammo it’s a good year so far except for the cold weather. Was -20 F in my garage when I needed to do some reloading. Took forever to warm it up. I’m going to have to move some place warm and has more freedom.

yep... gonna have to do some 38/357 with it for sure! Coming up...I might try some 2400 with a few different bullets as well...

Full.Lead.Taco yep I think I can take my pick based on the velocity I want..I shot the 3.9 gr at 1060 fps.. this gives me the range I want..I think I'll stick with that...

Birds of a feather my friend!!! : )

Thanks sir! Glad to know... I like the upward thumbs! : )

Mmmmm love warm brass!!! Thanks John Doe!

Awesome... Youll have to do a video on it! Glad to hear we have another Universal Fan! : )

thank ya sir....

Thanks Walker Outdoors! Happy shooting to ya........

Yes! We hit it off.... : ) we're Friends! If it makes ya feel any better I have 2 glock 19's : )

And cleaner burning!

Yep... That's my thinking too. I plan on it. The human element is the biggest one for me to consider. Sometimes we feel good about our shots and sometime we know we screwed a few up.. I felt about 95 Percent.. This percent will decrease the further out I go.. Stay tuned! : )

yeah... Kinda hate not having any good excuses! That kinda Bums me.. : ) I will take the best of these to some further distances, Maybe by then i'll figure out a good excuse if something goes bad! : ) I don't really know of a Piggly Wiggly close by here... not to far away though... i believe Ingles or BiLo has them though... I'll see if I can find one of those White salted smoked hams....

Well. In the way of accuracy, sight radius has a lot to do with it, The closer the sights are together the more the error in alignment is amplified, Thus placing the shot outside the aiming area. (That Blurr of the target you see in the distance) Longer Barrels shoot mainly with more accuracy because of less error in lining them up and being able to hold them in alignment with each other. So don't kick yourself as it is difficult to do repeatably, That was Fine shoot'en for 12 1/2 Yards. Here is another crazy thing, because of fitting some pistols are good 25-yard guns, However, the accuracy falls apart at 50-yards, I have done ransom rests tests on 1911's and see this happen. I believe it to be fitting at the barrel and barrel bushing fitting to the pistol. anyway, Looks like you are on a good quest. Btw, I would be willing to Pay for the Ham and shipping. Hehehe.. Those have a unique flavor, unlike any other ham. It's a good substitute for those basketball Yankie hams we have here. Dave.

Thor's Axe777 well said dude, well said spot on as usual. As for hams if you have any Amish communities near you, you might want to take a trip out to buy some ham. I buy all my hams from the Amish and man they are amazing at curing and smoking ham and other meats.

Nah man, not at NW we don't, no Amish that I am aware of.

Well, sorta true...at close ranges with pistols. There's a couple of things. People are moving more and more to carbines, and so, careful load development is relevant. That's why this video is important... At 1.125 COAL, and a 124-125 grain FMJ or LRN, this is getting into a compressed load with Universal (note that at that COAL the bullet won't fit into some magazines). With a plain Jane 9mm carbine, and 4.3 grains of Universal, that puts you into the 1350-1380 ft/sec range with WSPs (actual and Quickload predicted). So, yes...at 25-75 yards an accuracy load does make sense...a lot. You can go from .5 inch groups close in this video up to 4"-6" groups down "there" at my bench with a 995ts if you don't pay attention to the load development. And, yes, Quickload shows that Universal has higher Ballistic Efficiency, as compared to Unique or Titegroup when you match for pressure and ft/sec MV. Now, as you go to 100 yards and perhaps 250, and if you're a Ninja with a scope, all hell breaks loose because the bullet becomes unstable and drops below hypersonic. It then gets comical in terms of a 9mm POI, relative to a good .22 and a 26" barrel. So, yes...tighter groups are better with a 9. There comes a point in this game, however, when you switch over to a 150 grain FMBT from PPU stuffed in a 7.62x39 FC case at 2.200 stacked in a SKS with 21 grains of N120.

I was having the same issue. I just moved to tite group but haven’t loaded any rounds yet

Saludos to you my friend!

yep ... that Universal will probably shoot a little cleaner if ya care! The Rooster was a little pissed I wasn't cocking the hammer!!! : )

David Giannini ... yep I will be playing with universal some more for sure. . That's a good way to put it.. a better unique! ; )

yep... I thought so... what OAL?

Yes I am interested in you coal also.

Hey brother! Hope your New year will be the best!

I'm new to reloading and got a bottle of BE86. 124 grain is the 9mm bullet, what power load would be good?

I get my food in bulk too! Bullets are only second in line to eating! : ) Thanks my friend

Hey James.. sounds like you might be from the OutBack.. (ADI) That's about as heavy as i've loaded 9mm 158gr. For subsonic ammo. The bullet style will help dictate reliable feeding.Thanks for watching and Happy Shooting Mate! : )

Yes sir adi (australian defense industry) there realy strict with the gun laws over here can't even use semi auto rifles but can use semi auto pistols 10round limit on the magazines. haha we cant even use a pump shotgun here anymore but i try and have fun with that we do have.

Nice save on the edit.. : ) I should learn by now not to leave info like that out... You'll probably find that universal shoots quite a bit cleaner if thats of interest.. Those Hangfire vids are crazy good!

Yep... Universal is cleaner than unique. Meters nicely too.

whats your OAL. and do ya know the velocity fps?

Dead Money ...you are the exact reason for doing these videos. . throw out some other options for loads. While at the same time exploring for myself. I haven't tried the cafe pistol. I always want to and then can't get it for one reason or another. Tite group is a staple. looks like universal has my attention!

I'm big fan of CFE Pistol, switched from Titegoup as it seems lot cleaner . Stuff is not "baked on" like with TG

I'm just starting with reloading and plan on testing with Titegroup and CFE Pistol in both 9mm & 40 S&W. Looks like universal is something I might want to look at as well. Looking forward to seeing Elvis experiment more with it.

I sure do need to try that cfe pistol sometime

hey BSM you got some great powders there for sure... cant go wrong with any of these!

That's just awesome! : ) Id be tickled PINK... : )

Look in a reloading manual or two with your caliber, bullet/type, or at least the same general weight....and do not start with max charges, No one blew up their pistol with loads right smack in the middle of the recommended start charge/max charge....

sounds like all is well 13 BHN no prob. one of the comments on here says 3.7 is used in their competition pistol. As far as load data for lead vs jacketed you should be back and forth. : ) I use a little of both... Mostly FMJ. Just gotta keep some logic in mind, Like for instance How deep the bullet is seated. As always start low and work up looking for danger signs.... Too bad you dont have any of these ugly pink bullets though!! : )

Alan - I use cast bullet data for my powder coated reloads, my logic being that powder coating is most similar to cast in softness and the lands engrave more easily than jacketed bullets will, so pressure data will be most similar if using cast bullet data. By the way 3.7 gr. tg is one of my favorite loads - economical, clean and powerful. Accurate in my gun (an American made Walther PPS), too.

Hey trees ... Cant go wrong with those two!

I haven't loaded9mm in a few months though, but iirc tightgroup isn't either the best or worst at weighing. I really prefer easy weighing powder, so many powders (flake) can be frustrating in pistol ammo.

no I don't think you wasted your money at all Keith.. Personally i wouldn't have spent no more than I had too. I would be glad to have barrels of different kinds just for testing! : ) Really the bottom line is we don't want the brass to get messed up.. Maybe the 40 is most likely to do this? Maybe it's just really hot loads? I see a little bit of the glock smile but not that often and never from my own brass. One advantage you have now is to shoot groups with each barrel to see if one has an advantage over the other .... Happy Shooten!

not really... but I imagine people hear it when I dont... I just tune all that out I guess...: ) didn't even know there was a sound at all...