I do think its a big problem with the Audi brand. Audi is my favorite automaker but in the three years I owned my Q5 it dropped half of its total value - in the same time my newer Toyota Tacoma has virtually held steady. I love the brand but I'm reluctant to buy another unless retained value improves.
Well let’s remember that Audi is owned by the VW Group. All VW Group cars are really expensive to repair, I know someone who had to replaced a Tiguan engine and that costed more then he bought the car for. Like you, I wouldn’t own any car outside the VW Group but for me the biggest problem with them is the clutch. Although you probably wouldn’t have experienced that as Americans don’t drive manuals like us Brits...
Mike C, driving cars for one or two years then flipping them on average can't come out even or ahead with depreciation, repairs and state taxes unless your supplementing the lost with other revenue streams.
I own a 3.0 A4 B6 and I got to say it’s amazing. As an Audi owner, the biggest mistake you can make with one of these cars is to bring it to the dealership for maintenance or repairs. A third party that specializes in Audi can do a much better job than the dealership can. Also, these cars are really easy to DIY so that’s another option too.
I have my Q5 since new 2014TDI progressive S-line. what an amazing SUV nothing ever happen,not even a light bulb.Actually there was one weak point on sun visor clip. Had to replace that but this is peanut, nothing to worry about it. Other then that, Q5 runs smoothly and i still love it. It's a 7th year now and I'm planing to keep it.
If you think a 3 year old used car is an investment, then ... the problem is with this perception that you have of cars. It has nothing to do with the Audi brand.
Audi has secondary intake valve issues or something with carbon buildup on engines. Fixed on late 2019 models and 2020. Mine is a 2009. Engine leak, transmission leak, and carbon cleaning. Cost for carbon cleaning is 1500 to 2000 every 80k miles. I have 190k on my 2009 Q5. I love my truck. Had it since 2012. I would buy again. Quality ride, sturdy, performance, etc. My next will be a 2020 Q8. Its a good vehicle to drive for the life of car. Either purchase with a lease or buy with intention of keeping.
@@latoyamcfadden3199 those A7s are beautiful too they got the same engine you have now also the same engine as the s models just detuned. Your lucky you got the 3.0 supercharged Q5 I found out after I bought mine they made one with the charged 3.0 I was mad cause I knew they made the SQ5 model which is basically your model just detuned to have less HP and then the sq has the 21” wheels but other then that it’s the same vehicle for a lot less. Either route you go your in for a nice upgrade. I’ve considered a a7 too but something bout them S4s just appeal to me the smaller vehicle and all the after market mods to gain power like crazy is probably the reason my almost midlife crisis is bout to hit so instead of a corvette I want a crazy looking euro specifically Audi cause the benzes I’ve had in the past were trash and way to costly to repair and with the audis half the time Volkswagen parts wrk fine to repair even though they don’t tell you that cause they want your to spend the premium more. I had a small sensor go out and Audi wanted like 300 for it not including labor and vw same part 50.00 out the door. I had a a7 on a loaner while I was getting an estimate for some repairs once and some jerk wrecked into me so I’m out that privilege that’s the one nice thing about Audi is if you do get a repair they just hand you the keys to the cars they have for loaners it was an 2020 a7 or a 2020 q7 and I said A7 quicker then they could finish naming the rest of the fleet. My bad all the nonsense in this.
Cars depreciate. All of them do. Some depreciate a bit less than others. Its the use and enjoyment of the car that counts. Some people keep their cars for many years. Those are the people who benefit the most over the long run
I think he just likes hearing himself talk instead of trying to figure out why he didn’t think about all of this (research like any good new/used car buyer) depreciation/probable high mile repair cost before he bought it...he’s the one who talks about all the cars he’s owned (after all)
Audis are cheap to maintain if you do the work yourself. Parts are cheap and installing them are relatively easy. If you want to think you're cool by constantly taking it to the audi dealership, you're a clown and you're going to lose your shirt.
did you smoke something before your posted your last comment. to remove sump on Audi Q5 2.0. remove anti roll bar. remove steering rack. remove torsion bar. remove the hydraulic lines. ERRRRR how is that easy. Sump should be removed by literally undoing the 23 bolts and sump pan drops down. not all those extra bullshit jobs. Driveshaft. Cant remove without removing coil spring. Cant remove spring without Audi special tool kit. Cant use tool kit without special addition to convert special tool kit. ERRR like you still think they are sweet. Over engineered bullshit.
I have a 12yr old Q5 and home serviced most its life. Apart from the gearbox oil, I’ve replaced oil, filters, plugs, fuel filter and air filters myself. For example, can change the oil/filter for around AUD$80 and do every 7,500km.
@@Naessey How can I take off the Oil filter to replace it with a new one, it is very hard to turn please? I have the same year n model and this is my 1st time doing my own work on it
Keep the Q5 as it's more refined to drive. Depreciation will happen to every car regardless of make and model. Perhaps it might be a good idea to have a trusted mechanic to inspect the Q5 for any upcoming major repairs This will give you a better overview. Also, being proactive in doing preventative maintenance work will also help if you are concerned about sudden repair costs.
This makes me laugh! I have had to replace my turbo, my air compressor, my radiator, and now my pistons are going thanks to the oil consumption issue I was unaware of. I was a Volvo gal before my Q5. I still owe as much as the engine repair is going to cost.
Yeah VW/Audi turbos are crap, and I just spoke to a guy who runs a euro repair shop, and he told me that the Pistons get hairline cracks in them and that's why they burn oil ,,
J. if by maintain , you mean adding a quart of oil every 1000 miles , then nahh but why so many audis, cant JUST be the customers, toyotas go to hell and back and an audi can last through normal wear?
So, to clear up some of the Audi questions here. I bought a Q5 2011 at 54,000 miles for an incredible deal 2 1/2 years ago. I was commuting for my work during this time and literally having to put 2 quarts of oil a week in the car. I didn’t understand why so much oil consumption. My Audi went into the shop two months ago with a new mechanic. He informed me my lower pistons were leaking oil. My Audi was white, and the rear was covered in oil dust. He informed me at that time that there was a class action lawsuit several years back that Audi lost. My VIN number was included, but the original owner did nothing apparently. I spent $165.00 on 2 separate occasions having Audi do a good faith test on my oil consumption and piston issue. My car failed both miserably. I was told it would cost $9,900 to repair my dying engine. Their faulty engine design. I contacted Audi USA. They offered me $500 to “help” with my repair costs. I asked why no sales person told me of this problem because I sure wouldn’t have purchased the car. I luckily sold it as it was and bought a new 2020 Toyota RAV 4. Since I have a love for foreign luxury cars, I made sure this new one had all the upgrade bells and whistles. If someone asked me if they should by an Audi, I would say hell no! I never will again. As for my Volvo XC90. I loved that car! I have a limited edition Volvo Ocean Race V70XC 2002 wagon. It has the same chassis as the XC90. It has a fridge in it. Leather seats. She’s an oldie, but goody! I like the new XC40. It’s really cute! White/Black combo is really eye catching. I just didn’t want the high car payment a Volvo would bring right now. I would recommend Volvo without hesitation. I lived near the BMW plant in Upstate, SC. Everyone drove BMW there. I heard mixed comments on those, so I can’t offer much advice other than that their plant and subsidiary’s are a booming business there.
They are very expensive to repair in the US. Car mehcanics don't work on them a lot and labor costs are much higher in the US, parts are at a premium and the way car repair is in the US it is just very expensive to repair anything it is more a culture of using and throwing away things. That is why American cars or Toyotas are a good choice in the US. In Europe mechanics are more knowledgeable about European cars, there are more parts available (aftermarket as well) and just the culture leans more towards repair and maintenance. The reverse is true here if you buy an American car in Europe then your repair costs go up, parts are exclusive and hard to find you need to ship them etc etc.
You are right on point. It has become absurdly expensive to have mechanics work on any car. Not to mention they charge the number of hours for a job based on their book. Their book says it takes 6hrs to do a timing belt and water pump on my Acura. Total dealer cost is $1200. I bought the OEM pump/pulley/belt kit for $200 and did it myself in 6hrs by watching youtube videos. If I can do the job in 6hrs my first time then a professional should be able to do it in half the time.
Dude, if you gonna own an European car, expect to take a big hit if you're putting miles on it. It happens to almost every European model, not because the cars themselves are not desirable, but because the cost of the repair is much, much more expensive. Better stick with Japanese and American cars if cost is a concern.
My parents have the 2017 Q7. It has the 3.0 as well and it’s an amazing SUV. Before the Audi, they had the BMW X5 which was considered a lemon car. Great video, Mike!
Financially speaking, 4runner. Dollar to dollar will be stronger with the 4runner and with the added depreciation of the Audi in the next few years...than money on the 4runner you'll more likely keep more value in the Toyota (less depreciation)in that same time period.
I have a 2010 Q5 2.0 TFSI. The DSG box failed at 90'000Km costing thousands in repairs (not covered by Audi) and the engine drinks 1L oil per 500km. I've raised it with Audi as well and they won't cover it. The oil consumption is a well know issue, it even cost Audi a class action conviction in the US the repair/replace affected engines.
I watched your previous video, your 70k update. Now you are about 2 to 3 years in, added 30k miles since you purchased, closing on 90k miles and you expected the vehicle to not to depreciate between 6k to 8k? Who would want to pay more than $20k for a Q5 with almost 100k miles? I don't understand how you are calculating depreciation / use for the miles you put on? I've never met anyone who purchased a vehicle, especially a daily or one close to it for X and expect close to X in return. There's nothing special to this Q5 other than it being a Prestige with the S-Line package. I think your initial purchase price was a little high for a 60k mile vehicle, IMO and I've always stayed away from vehicles with more than 25,000 miles on the odometer. At least there is time to drive 25 to 30k miles on and still have some reasonable value left.
Fact; 2015 Q5 (2.0liter) 112,000 miles. Oil Consumption ridiculous…….1Qt. every 500miles. Easygoing driver that’s had every scheduled service done at the dealer. (Dealer says this new style of turbocharged 4cyl. piston is prone to this problem but won’t help me pay for it😕). LOVE this car & Just paid the thing off🙄🔫……….Should I sell it while I can get 10k on a trade❓
Great discussion point. I have this exact car except it’s a 2015 TDI Q5 with about 50K miles. It’s prob been my favorite car of the 30+ vehicles I’ve owned in my lifetime. I love the car but have also considered the points you mentioned.
My Sister is a visiting Nurse, she has a 2014 Q5 with 215,000 miles last time I looked. She makes sure the Oil is changed regularly and the correct oil is used. Too many owner cheap out using crapy Motor oil and then complain about problems. This has been an Excellent SUV, yes it has needed a few things like a CV joint and a valve cover gasket but nothing major. I think the timing chain and tensioners should be changed at over 200,000 miles to prevent a failure. The Automatic trans has been trouble free too. Brakes and tires need replacing as needed.
If you're anywhere near northeastern PA, I would HIGHLY recommend Josh and Adam at Nothing Leaves Stock in Coopersburg. They are wizards when it comes to audis and volkswagens.
Consumer Reports don’t agree with your jargon. Came here to listen to the issue of Audi, not your flawed analysis and personal plans. Title of the video is …..
You purchased a German luxury car with 60,000 miles on it, have put an add'l 30,000 miles on it and you're concerned about depreciation?? To put it in the nicest way possible, your concern is a bit late and wrongheaded at this point. You seem like an intelligent guy, so I would think the problem is with your philosophy, as opposed to your IQ.
I completely agree. He says he wants to sell his vehicles before they depreciate too much. The greatest depreciation of a vehicle is in the first 3 years. If he now has a 5 year old Audi with 90k miles, he would save more money if he would keep it and enjoy not having a car payment. Even if he puts 1k into the car every year he comes out ahead by not having a car payment. In addition, he is going to pay a sales tax on the purchase of another car which here in the states is thousands of dollars. I have a 2006 Acura TL which is worth maybe 5k with 120k miles on it. I have not had a car payment in 12 years and have not wasted money on sales tax. I recommend buying a 3 year old Acura, Honda, Lexus and keeping it for 10 years. When this guy said he has owned 19 cars and has traded them before he lost money I quickly realized he does not understand the concept of sound financial management. Perhaps he should invest in mutual funds instead of used cars.
Dude, you are all over the place! I just viewed your last video and you were praising the vehicle and saying it’s giving you no issues and now you are talking about your concerns over repairs? All cars drop in value!
If you want a good deal on a great Luxory SUV look for the Mercedes ML. 2011 W164 is a great year and has a perfect balance of technology and reliability. Made in America and easy to work on. I have a ML350 at 126k miles and it has been a dream. Such a strong engine and transmission. values have held very steady in my area too, haven't seen much of a drop in the 4 years since I bought mine.
I had a 2012 Q5. Most problematic car I've ever owned. Second owner with dealer maintenance but still so many issues. I did most of the repairs myself. Only get one within the warranty period or if you can do the repairs yourself or professional friend. They also depreciate like the money pits they are. Not a good buy.
It's an Audi. I own two of them. I will say if you don't know what you're getting into, you're gonna lose your ass. I'm surprised you had that many problems with the 3.2L engine. I heard that was a pretty sturdy platform.
One thing about your car that you hate the most is the cleaning.. Dude I have never seen anyone on youtube so far doing a video on such a dirty car. Some liquid stains on the seats, 3 mm dust on all displays and dash.. Come on man...
I bought a 2010 Audi A3 S-line 6sp manual for $9700 AUD two years ago. Now it's worth $11-$14k because of it's rarity due to it being a manual transmission. But I don't intend to sell it for another 10years anyways because it's a manual and can't get the newer in manual.
I just bought a 2015 Audi Q5 TDI with 88k miles on it for $19k. If you know the history of your Q5, and its paid off, keep it. Drive it till it falls apart(awhile from now). Take it from someone who was trying to find a Q5 3.0t with sport package, it was impossible! You have a rare combo of options that is sought after. Ignore blue book and keep enjoying what has been a good car for you.
My daughters 2015 Q5 was purchased used and it has had three water pumps changed ,must add engine oil every 600 miles, and now rear sunroof drain must be replaced at a cost of over $1400 😡 My advice is to avoid these vehicles!
$20,000 you can buy a brand new Maserati made jeep which is built off the Maserati Lavante $130,000 luxury vehicle and rides way nicer than Audi with way more user-friendly tech
Driving a brand new jeep for six years would lose you the same as an Audi for two years. You don’t have to do any maintenance to it at all and mine as a 164,000 mile daily driver and rock crawlers.
If you don’t have a Ross Tech cable, VCDS and a VIN specific service manual for your Audi to DIY. I would NEVER recommend these cars to anyone. BUT, if you do have all those and educate yourself on your model just a little, there’s not another brand I’d rather have. Jmo
All CARS TAKE A DROP IN VALUE. $28,000 TO $22,000 IS NOTHING FOR A LURURY VEHICLE THAT YOU HAD FOR TWO YEARS AND PUT ON 30,000 MILES. (Sorry for the caps, I did not realize that was happening). That is basically only $2,000 per year in depreciation. That is nothing. Unless is a collectible all cars lose at least that. Of course, if you are lucky enough or shrewd enough to beat someone up on the price you can minimize loss in value. Most people do not work that hard to buy a car.
The high mileage problem isn’t specific to Audis. Any foreign luxury car, particularly German, will be pricy to fix and depreciates in the same manner.
Hi mike, considering both 2016 Q5 or 2016 vw tiguan...which should I go for?Desperately trying to avoid high repair costs-had a vw cabrio that was tons of fun, thght I wanted the tiguan ...then found the luxury factor of audi more to my taste...the front grill just gets me...need yr experience of car ownership asap to guide me which way I should go! thxs!
Hi Mary, For starters the Q5 and Tiguan are vastly different vehicles. I often feel like VWs are a great value that give you much of the same feel as an Audi but I don't feel that as much with the Tiguan. The Touareg is much closer to the Q5 in terms of luxury but is also larger and less fuel efficient. As for repairs you'll probably see a slight increase in repairs costs on the Q5 but I wouldn't expect them to be vastly different (Although both vehicles will be more expensive to repair long-term than some other brands). The Q5 does have more features so there is more possibility of some of those items failing but from a mechanical standpoint I think there will be little difference. I think the main differences to decide between the Tiguan and Q5 should be the initial cost and whether you think the increase is worth it for the added luxury you get.
Hope you have a back up car and a job that pays 150 to 200k a year spent 12000 just keeping mine running the past 2 years and only kept it cause my mom likes it and i gave it to her and i dont want her stranded
Audi has a problem with their Q5. Rear end alignment. Wore out rear tires at 10,000 miles. Audi issued a recall. Audi did not make good on the tires or cost of repairs.
Okay I was waiting to hear of the Q5 problems and I’m still waiting 10 mins later. I have already had to replace the turbocharger, rear taillight, 2 headlights and bushings, now I’m having oil consumption problems. Stop whining Sir
i don't understand why this guy is complaining he clearly has never lost much money on cars.hes used to fu**ing people over but is not ok when it happens to him, now hes complaining because its losing value, the whole point of a car is to actually use it and and much as possible for example for work where you can get your money back! now stop talking about your depreciation value and tell us about actual mechanical problems!!!!
This was a waste of my time. I'm not saying the video isn't relevant for some people, but the headline indicates that there might be a technical Audi issue.
Toyota Highlander might be a good option as well, they hold value well and and probably give a more comfortable ride than the 4runner .. i currently own a 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser which also has held its value well over the 6 years i have owned it but am seriously considering trading it for the Audi Q5. Most likely a 2016 with 40k miles. Plenty of them out there right now as returned lease vehicles and depreciation be damned I'm going to take the plunge .. i want an Audi!
Buy and extended warranty. Most extended warranty covers most cars up 150,000 miles. Drive the vehicle hard so a little while to find any work that needs to be done. Get that work done before warranty expires.
I Don't mean to bash, but your video is so broad that it's not in anyway specific to Audi, but most vehicles of the class... This it's like having a video called "Big problem with Ford F150" in talking about the poor mpg when that is an actual issue with most pick up trucks in And not an issue with just F150
I've owned 20 vehicles and never had one depreciate as much as my Q5. I'd say that's a pretty unique downside to Audi ownership that I want to educate other buyers on. I replaced it with a 4Runner and I'm quite confident that if I wanted to sell I could sell it for exactly what I paid a year ago.
Mike C Yes because the Audi is one of the most expensive to repair and they have probably the most issues, next to BMW, I just spoke to a guy who runs a euro repair shop and he told me Audi are the absolute worst because the turbo is go out and they burn oil because of the cylinders have hairline cracks in them. I was aware of the turbo issue, and that is probably one of the biggest reasons the depreciation is so high, it's not because the maintenance is expensive but because the repairs are required so much , And it's always something with the power train , And also sometimes it's specific models that have the higher depreciation in the Q5 is one of the absolute worst, the Q7 was pretty awful too
2.5 years and almost 30k miles so you lost 6~8 thousand that’s not bad considering people who buy new loose that much when driving the car off the lot! Keep in mind most cars lose $2500-$4000 a year in depreciation no matter what brand it is except a Tesla
I’m in DC area so speaking from a large city perspective, I rarely pay “full price” for routine maintenance. I own ‘16 Q5 with 37k miles and change oil twice per year. I’m always able to find coupon for $69 or $79 as there are 5-7 Audi dealers in metro DC. That also goes for 4 wheel alignment where I pay $129 or $159 depending on what’s specials are available. I’ll need new tires and will probably go to Costco. Basically, don’t just blindly go into dealer without doing your homework.
But if you need coupons and deals then it’s expensive. Coupons aren’t always going to available and probably for people who don’t live where you are. I don’t want to risk it even if I found a good deal 😬😓
Audis value dips so much because Audi design their cars to last the warranty period then almost immediately start failing afterwards. It isn’t just Audi guilty of this but they are renowned for reliability issues come 3 to 5 years 70k+ miles. Many people who argue Audi make reliable cars are almost always the ones who ‘buy’ them new (I say buy but for 9/10 people that means lease) and therefore don’t see the dark side of Audi reliability. The second hand car market is a wash of Audis nobody wants because they’re unreliable heaps of scrap that nobody in the second hand market wants to fork out $$$s for replacing extremely expensive parts. Your Toyota on the other hand is reliable and known to go on for many, many trouble free miles hence the retained value. Toyota are up there with some of the most reliable cars on the road. Lastly, as a car enthusiast I highly question the credibility of anyone who’s favourite automaker is Audi. Any car enthusiast will agree that Audi are one of the many things wrong with the automotive industry. Being heavily involved with emissions cheating (albeit the wider VW group) and deliberately producing cars which are designed to fail to encourage people just to buy new Audis instead (because Audi make nothing from none associated dealerships selling second hand Audis), Audi for me are a toxic brand that focus on selling a lifestyle as opposed to a good car. My advice to you would be to stick to Toyota. Don’t buy another Audi and in all honesty, I’d give that advice to anyone. I hope the pending ‘EV’ era wipes Audi from existence as they are already miles behind market leaders in alternative fuel technology and their offerings in this field have been sub-par to say the least. DO NOT BUY A SECOND HAND AUDI.
which vehicle did you buy and drive for a year then sell for $6K profit? pointless video everything you said is pretty much common sense. BTW just continue your "super savvy" lifestyle of constantly visiting dealers/buying/selling/registering/paying taxes on your cars that increase in value as you drive!!!HA!!
