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A Brief Guide To Oswald Spengler's (Other) Civilizations 

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@misterkefir
@misterkefir Год назад
Going to open up my porter beer, chill out and listen to the poet of the norf talk about Spengler's ideas. A great evening, indeed. Cheers!
@therespectedlex9794
@therespectedlex9794 Год назад
I go mad, and rude, drinking, while watching You Tube. I'm looking over my shoulder after last night's slurs.
@paisios2541
@paisios2541 Год назад
Spengler had an enormous influence on me back in 2016, he essentially led me out of relativism into believing in hard absolute truth (despite his at times relativistic take on the deep differences in Cultures). But you get a sense that history has immutable rules and patterns and they cannot be reversed or fought against, and there is a hard absolute truth to that. His work really kick started a process for me that ultimately ended in my accepting of Orthodox Christianity. Very grateful for Spengler and I feel like he's immensely unknown and underappreciated and often misunderstood by those who even know who he is. Very happy to see content like this!
@Amfortas
@Amfortas Год назад
Just be Catholic, you're literally doing the Faustian "whoa exotic and different = good!"
@paisios2541
@paisios2541 Год назад
@@Amfortas not at all, Orthodoxy is the truth. Even Spengler recognized that western Christianity post Charlemagne was something different than early Christianity. If Christ truly is God then the real Church is the Orthodox Church, not the groups who believe a bunch of different things that no one believed in the early Church. I do not believe a lot of Spenglers ideas anymore, but have appreciation for him. I do not view Orthodoxy as one tradition out of many traditions for one to pick from according to their cultural sensibilities, but the exclusive truth.
@TheWestIsDead
@TheWestIsDead Год назад
@@Amfortas He's right. Catholics worship the pope and its all about the political power of the Vatican. Orthodox Christianity is what all of Europe should be like. Look at Orthdox churches, orthdox monks, orthodox iconography, orthdox chants, orthodox rituals ans customs and it blows Catholicism out of the park. There's an English guy called father Spyridon that does some great videos here on RU-vid. If you like Morgoth, you love Spyridon.
@OmniDan26
@OmniDan26 Год назад
@@paisios2541 nobody cares what you believe creep.
@GunnerRDS
@GunnerRDS 11 месяцев назад
@@paisios2541 Hi, are you still a member of the Orthodox Church? If so would you recommend it to a newcomer?
@hre2044
@hre2044 Год назад
Morgoth you should talk about Jonathan Bowden, I've been binge watching his speeches and they're all so good.
@user-ww1yg1fq5r
@user-ww1yg1fq5r Год назад
So sad he was lost way too soon. By design one thinks.
@corneliuscapitalinus845
@corneliuscapitalinus845 Год назад
Still haven't heard a good-audio version of his charles Mauras speech, which is a shame. The Punch and Judy speech is the best.
@JohnSmith-jr7cp
@JohnSmith-jr7cp Год назад
@HRE his dissertation on the subtextual themes in HP Lovecrafts stories are quite simply amazing. I've been a lifelong fan of Lovecraft and Bowden gave me a totally new perspective on him.
@slimbroski5335
@slimbroski5335 Год назад
TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 intro 3:00 Egypt 14:20 China 23:38 India 28:30 Magian (Islamic/middle east) 34:49 Classical (Greece and Rome) 41:07 Russia 41:57 Recap 43:07 End of recap
@Carroty_Peg
@Carroty_Peg Год назад
Hi Morgoth, did you ever talk about how you came to be interested in things far from the common man? What got you into thinking so much and how could you persist doing such menial jobs in comparison? Yes, I'm a nosy-bonk
@MorgothsReview1
@MorgothsReview1 Год назад
Actually yes I have, my grandfather was very influential on my upbringing and different from others around me growing up.
@sergedenovo2389
@sergedenovo2389 Год назад
I'm the same way as Morgoth, hence I really appreciate the things he talks about and how he "thinks" about them. ...I just don't make videos or content because I'm extremely self-conscious and come from the idea of: "It's better to be silent and be suspected a fool, rather than open your mouth and be confirmed as one." :) Conversely Morgoth, why is it that I can't comment on your telegram posts? ...Am I doing something wrong? I'm new to it and really kinda don't like tech. ...Cause it doesn't like me. lol Take care. :)
@Carroty_Peg
@Carroty_Peg Год назад
@@sergedenovo2389 Morgoth hasn't got comments on his Telegram channel so it's not your Boomer Tech holding you back. Only on here and Substack, probably because it gets rather too spicy over there and one can only stand being banned from so many channels.
@MorgothsReview1
@MorgothsReview1 Год назад
@@sergedenovo2389 I don't have comments on my telegram because it's too much trouble to moderate, I haven't the time.
@happyhammer1
@happyhammer1 Год назад
@@sergedenovo2389 as long as he doesn't have God forsaken emojis I'm happy with his telegram.
@ryngobrody1627
@ryngobrody1627 Год назад
Though I haven't read all of his work, I'm very much in agreement with Spengler about India. Our interest with our own history seems only to be a modern byproduct of our colonization by Faustian civilization. A lot of our existing monuments were built by the Magians too!
@waltershumer4211
@waltershumer4211 Год назад
The magians? How so? And what do you mean that the interest in Indian history in India is a byproduct of colonization?
@far-away-so-close4540
@far-away-so-close4540 Год назад
@@waltershumer4211 "Magians" = Mughals, who were Islamic.
@samthedeep
@samthedeep Год назад
@Ryngo Brody "A lot of our existing monuments were built by the Magians too!" That's because the islamic invaders destroyed thousands of temples and built over them in some cases.
@babyblue-jj1be
@babyblue-jj1be 5 дней назад
The beautiful Taj Mahal was built by the Persian influenced Mughals, I'll give them that
@sinister9111
@sinister9111 Год назад
It makes sense that the Indians were not concerned with dates events and figures. For a people who believe in cycles and rebirth, specific dates and individuals are not relevant. In my opinion, attaining nirvana/moksha probably takes 100s if not 1000s of years. Ancient Indians put emphasis on the soul rather than the material (body), I dont know if they consider the soul eternal but it does make sense when you take the perspective of a soul wandering samsara, that time is irrelevant to the soul.
@varolussalsanclar1163
@varolussalsanclar1163 Год назад
Its not that they disregarded the material body. Dont forget that these are the people who came up with kama sutra and yoga.
@Meshuggapeth
@Meshuggapeth Год назад
Hindus, and Buddhists, do deny the eternality of the self/soul
@japethspeaketh7034
@japethspeaketh7034 Год назад
Sounds a lot like Gnosticism.
@jtlor207
@jtlor207 Год назад
@@japethspeaketh7034 gnosticism was essentially christianity with the usage of eastern esotericism and mysticism with the goal of attaining salvation
@babyblue-jj1be
@babyblue-jj1be 5 дней назад
Can you explain in this same manner why the Greeks and Romans were ahistorical?
@-EndlessHorizon
@-EndlessHorizon Год назад
I was playing assassins creed valhalla and its interesting how the progressive views ancient history. They create a lot of modern morally reprehensible scenarios in a way to prove that we in the modern age are better and more just and they also apply a lot of modern ideas of morality onto the main characters thats unrealistic. But they always nail the setting and the local down to a T it goes to show they have no idea what the people of these ancient societies were like but they fully understand their material capabilities. This is interesting to me they can fully understand the technological capability and accurately depict the buildings and other details but cant properly portray the spirit of man in the ancient civilizations. Also they always have gnostic cultish enemies who believe in the nephelim and that god is a liar and that man is his own creator and god. Its projection of the highest levels. I think the more we can understand the spirit of these men and civilizations the better we can see our own flaws. Look at Briton rome after the fall they continued to practice Roman elections and art and culture because they werent cultured enough to make new art amd that is the prime issue of modern society we pull from the past out of a lacking of the present. Did ancient civilizations at their peak steal other society's art and customs no it only happened during collapse and of course when sacked by barbarians or outward peoples Just thinking out loud sorry lol
@joriankell1983
@joriankell1983 Год назад
their views are all lies. don't ever trust them to tell you what they really believe.
@Amfortas
@Amfortas Год назад
It's also what modern audiences demand (as exemplified by the lukewarm response to The Northman and it's different take on Norse myth)
@elhaymvanhouten7963
@elhaymvanhouten7963 Год назад
They only think in terms of power and how to further increase their power and their ideological hold on society. If that means to reject the truth and historical accuracy, then so be it, these people don't care and think they're justified in doing so. That the setting, houses, tools and so on often are fairly accurate in their depictions of history is simply because it serves no purpose to them by distorting it. It's very difficult to push an ideological narrative based on simply the materials or shape of the houses ancient people lived in.
@elhaymvanhouten7963
@elhaymvanhouten7963 Год назад
It's not a question about if they "can" understand ancient civilisations, but rather if they "want" to. They have an agenda to push, and they are more than willing to change history to fit their narrative. They are well aware of what they're doing, but they simply don't care since in their mind it serves a greater cause and objective truth means nothing to them.
@HarbingerOfANewAge
@HarbingerOfANewAge Год назад
What is funny the protagonists in assassins creed are literally unbearable the modern day assassins in the story are literally left wing millennial anarchists or how they are colloquially known as the “green haired people”. The developers projected their woke personalities unto their story.
@theendofeverything6356
@theendofeverything6356 Год назад
Looking forward to this.
@Emanonerewhon
@Emanonerewhon Год назад
I watched this when you released it on Substack, but on my second viewing I just want to say what a fantastic job you’ve done with this video. I’ve been fascinated with Spengler’s work for the past five years or so and I find his philosophy of history to be a work of true genius. On the idea of Faustian man’s deepest world feeling of wanting to vanish into Infinity, I look at our situation today and see the internet as an invention that really embodies this idea. If we look at how companies like Facebook are creating virtual realities in which we can voluntarily “escape,” I see this anyway as a reflection of that inborn feeling of wanting to vanish into the Infinite forever. Like the original Faustian legend by Goethe, the doctor sells his soul to achieve infinite knowledge and worldly pleasure. This bargain, like all bargains with the Devil, will end with tears and lamentations.
@fishslappr
@fishslappr Год назад
Thanks Morgoth. Excellent recap, and timely too.
@ltjohn8980
@ltjohn8980 Год назад
What a fascinating and insightful listen, thanks Morgoth.
@leifkeane
@leifkeane Год назад
Looking forward to it!
@cynthiacarter9055
@cynthiacarter9055 Год назад
This was a lot to try to take in! However, the intellectual discourse around the turn of the 20th century has been a casual curiosity of mine for years, so perhaps I will finally add this work to the queue. Thanks for the introduction.
@Confucius_76
@Confucius_76 Год назад
Interesting that the Egyptian symbol is a long march through a corridor, and they were centred on a long straight river, whilst the Chinese had a meandering culture, and they were centred on a big meandering river (the Yellow River)
@finlaymcdiarmid5832
@finlaymcdiarmid5832 Год назад
Geography has a huge subliminal and subconscious impact on people's and cultures. its probably evolutionary.
@drakieon
@drakieon Год назад
The Faustian was born in dark, gothic Germanic forests which stretch upwards towards the infinite. The environment the high culture develops in is heavily important and influential
@bjollnirbjordsen9795
@bjollnirbjordsen9795 Год назад
Glad I found your content, really good stuff
@patrickbateman783
@patrickbateman783 Год назад
Missed live what a shame because Morgoth's streams feels like an event.
@piercebrosnan9528
@piercebrosnan9528 Год назад
Too busy returning some video tapes?
@rebecca.smith.
@rebecca.smith. Год назад
He did one with Woes this week which was great - 3.5 hours as well
@patrickbateman783
@patrickbateman783 Год назад
@@rebecca.smith. Thanks, will check it out.
@patrickbateman783
@patrickbateman783 Год назад
@@piercebrosnan9528 😅🤣😂
@ImperiumPress
@ImperiumPress Год назад
The Egyptian "resolute march down the path once entered" sounds a lot like traditional European ideas of fate and wyrd. Against all odds this seems to be coming back as progressivism negotiates its decline - most people believe that history bends toward something, but clearly it ain't progress. Egyptians had other uncanny resemblances to pre-Faustian NW Euro theology like the body-soul unity, ancestor worship, state cult, and even the weighing of the heart, especially being fed to the beast. We have a lot to learn from these people - I can see why Spengler was fascinated by them.
@Arkeo36
@Arkeo36 Год назад
I agree with your take on this. I think it must be because ancient Egyptians were related to the pre-IE invasion Europeans. There's just no denying that of all the other civilizational models, European and Egyptian civilization have the closest outlook - that is progress through time. For the Egyptians it appears to have been a "static progress" almost like marking the days on an underground prison wall or riding in a train car down tracks, whereas for Europeans progress is both "farther and greater." Euro civilization builds on the past and adds to it, whereas the Egyptians rigorously maintained everything handed to them from the past and took it to the future, almost like they existed in a permanent "end of history." Maybe they conceived of themselves as the ends of historical development.
@finlaymcdiarmid5832
@finlaymcdiarmid5832 Год назад
Well, i think a good video could be made on napoleons "oriental complex" explaining or analysing if there was anything more than mere obsession? Was it Neuroticism or Genius?
@paralleloctagon7062
@paralleloctagon7062 Год назад
I think the concept of historical progress needs to be separated from what we call 'liberalism' and assorted cultural ideas. Spengler himself believed in progress, albeit in a more pessimistic and ultimately cyclical sense. Progress is something of an empirical fact; the normative evaluation of what it means is something else entirely. this is why I have a deep aversion about stuff like the 'TradCaths': we aren't going back to the Europe of the Tridentine Reforms.
@finlaymcdiarmid5832
@finlaymcdiarmid5832 Год назад
@@paralleloctagon7062 well, its maybe an old tactic, how dare you oppose us! We are progressives! when in fact these same progressives hosted birth of a nation in the white house and introduced the segregation laws.
@seanoneil277
@seanoneil277 Год назад
The term "progress" is now so saturated by over-use that it is meaningless. Anything people wish to propose, which disturbs the current order of things, is defended by saying "but this is PROGRESS!" and nary a thought is given to the question of, "what IS progress?" That side-stepping is a goal -- they don't want to negotiate on whether it might be an advancement. They want everyone agreeing it's PROGRESS and they'll shout you down if you try to examine the advancements alleged. The whole thing is a ruse and this is why it's slowly, agonizingly imploding. No culture anywhere in human history has advanced through licentious, carefree, hedonistic and hyper-individualized mores. Not a one. Every experiment of such has failed within 25 years or so. How long did the Weimar Republic last?
@jackiechun4741
@jackiechun4741 Год назад
Give morgoth a listen. The value of his thoughts is directly proportional to the thickness of his scottish brogue.
@nickbamber268
@nickbamber268 Год назад
Morgoth sounds Northumbrian not Scottish.
@JohnMacbeth
@JohnMacbeth Год назад
You're not from the uk are you Jackie Chun? 🤣
@jackiechun4741
@jackiechun4741 Год назад
@@JohnMacbeth no but i've noticed a lot of the DR is from canada or the UK. canada is a lot easier to understand though!
@evolassunglasses4673
@evolassunglasses4673 Год назад
Looking forward to this. Please like and share.
@catholicpog7183
@catholicpog7183 Год назад
@Evola's sunglasses You're in every comment section I watch lmao
@evolassunglasses4673
@evolassunglasses4673 Год назад
@@catholicpog7183 LOL
@darrenrenna
@darrenrenna Год назад
A great dialog on a deep topic that needs a lot more consideration in our present era
@KarlMartell732
@KarlMartell732 Год назад
As a German, it seems strangely plausible to me to hear an Englishman talk about Spengler´s philosophy, someone of the other branch of the particularly Faustian nations who made the modern civilization in the real world in the shape of the empire.
@joeshmoe7899
@joeshmoe7899 Год назад
Is he English? I thought Scottish, or other Brit. Doesn't sound English. No marbles in his speaking mouth.
@supahnubz
@supahnubz Год назад
@Joe Shmoe He's from the Northeast of England, and has the accent from that area.
@nickbamber268
@nickbamber268 Год назад
@@joeshmoe7899 Northumberland
@TheFatController.
@TheFatController. Год назад
@@joeshmoe7899 we've plenty of strong accents here in England that you won't hear in a film (especially American ones), or even on TV here in England. Even though probably 60% of English people have strong regional accents. There's probably something to it, that they want us homogenised and all sounding the same. There are probably 10 major regional accents in England, which would have been dialects in the past. 1. South West (centered around Bristol) 2. South East (cockney type-essex accent) 3. Brummie (Birmingham -midland) 4. East Anglian 5. Scouse (around Liverpool) 6. Mancunian (around manchester) 7. East midlands (derby-leiceseter-nottingham) 8. Yorkshire 9. Geordie (people from the north east) 10. Lancashire There's small internal differences in each of these accents, and people from Middlesbrough will say that a "Geordie" is from a particular place. But they have that same twang which groups them together, in my opinion.
@JONO5K1
@JONO5K1 Год назад
@rusted metal Hindi/Arabic
@NarcoRepublican
@NarcoRepublican Год назад
Wonderful!
@sage4rage
@sage4rage Год назад
Glad you are making bare the distortion that some people have over the Russian identity through Spengler. It's hard sometimes to break through the black and white thoughts about how cultures exist en percieve their identity as a people. Much is to be said about how race became a disection past identity and how the formulation of people by color is a burden instead of a tool for disecting the identity of a people.
@HarbingerOfANewAge
@HarbingerOfANewAge Год назад
@niknikkersoon4789actually race acts sort of like a primordial identity in fact you could argue that some of the cultures that existed before the major world civilizations such as the indo Europeans left their mark in the formation of the major world civilizations such as the classical, Faustian, Magian, and Indian this is why all of these civilizations have so much in common in comparison to the other world civilizations. It is because the indo European proto world culture acts as a root culture.
@WhiteBaronn
@WhiteBaronn 4 дня назад
​@@HarbingerOfANewAgeHow is Magian influenced by Indo-Europeans? Spengler said all cultures are distinct and independent and owe and borrow nothing from the previous ones.
@Oldkingcole1125
@Oldkingcole1125 Год назад
I really enjoyed your Spengler video on the English and Germans. Also, commenting for the algorithm.
@LughSamildanach
@LughSamildanach Год назад
Fantastic video. Thank you so much!
@Captain_Blak
@Captain_Blak Год назад
Loved the substack chat with Woes mate, more of the same please.
@josephoxandale
@josephoxandale Год назад
Loved it.
@richardcrook2112
@richardcrook2112 Год назад
That was brilliant.
@morty_falch8049
@morty_falch8049 Месяц назад
great stuff
@JosephStealin
@JosephStealin Год назад
That was awesome.
@mercurydylan899
@mercurydylan899 10 месяцев назад
Absolutely fascinating video, Morgoth! Really appreciate it and you and your work.
@yuuts2619
@yuuts2619 Год назад
Good stuff
@Emily-ou6lq
@Emily-ou6lq Год назад
for the al gore rythm
@thebeltingbalaclava4798
@thebeltingbalaclava4798 Год назад
Also known as the climate activist jazz drummer
@rudolfvongoldenbaum
@rudolfvongoldenbaum Год назад
Another great video Morgoth, always love your explanations of Spengler. Have you ever read The Hour of Decision? I'm actually planning on recording it in audiobook form over the next couple of weeks, I think it might contain some interesting lessons for the current day and age
@MorgothsReview1
@MorgothsReview1 Год назад
No that's pretty much the only Spengler I haven't read. My next deep-dive will probably be Man and Technics at some point.
@rudolfvongoldenbaum
@rudolfvongoldenbaum Год назад
The Hour of Decision does seem to be less popular than some of his other works, hopefully recording some audio of it will highlight any new and important themes it contains. Looking forward to your next upload as always o7
@const1453
@const1453 Год назад
Greetings mate. Are you going to do ghat audiobook in German?
@rudolfvongoldenbaum
@rudolfvongoldenbaum Год назад
@@const1453 I decided to do it in English since that's what I'm most familiar with. Do you speak German? Also, I actually just finished the intro if you want to check it out - any feedback is welcome.
@const1453
@const1453 Год назад
@@rudolfvongoldenbaum i saw the German name and I thought you were German. Actually, I come from Albania (I am not an ethnic Albanian just in case) and I have considered for some time doing and audiobook since many ppl tell me I got a decent voice for it. Seeing the shortage of based traditional texts and books in Albanian I have been considering doing it for some time. Finding translated work would be impossible but I have been thinking about Dostoyevski and similar authors who have been translated into Albanian. I can speak German at C1 level but the accent is very obvious so it does not make that much sense. Show me your samples. I would be honoured.
@CandideSchmyles
@CandideSchmyles Год назад
Awesomeness squared.
@WhiteBaronn
@WhiteBaronn 4 дня назад
The Russian part has left my jaw open. Oh my god he was spot on!
@jayhunter1652
@jayhunter1652 Год назад
I think we all agree that Spengler nailed his characterization of the Faustian West, but I have to say also that I always found his comments on the Magian East to be veeery accurate
@Idothinkysaurus
@Idothinkysaurus Год назад
Magian, one of the Magi, a priest of Zoroastrianism. Majus, also a Zoroastrian priest. Zoroastrianism is a root of Western civilization, so why is the East Magian? Western languages are all connected in their roots, so the shapes of the words have persisted throughout time. This can be observed if one were to look. Magians are MAGICIANs in today's tongues. They practiced SPELLING (the doing of magic). Humans spell words! Words are magic! A priest is a magician whose magic is words, and who brings forth into being, through words, perhaps reality? It's unclear how to utilize magic, or even what it does, but it is definitely tied to the spoken and the written word. Perhaps all I'm doing is realizing why our words are the way they are. It's a little hair brained, but you see what I'm saying? What it means is the real question. I haven't fleshed it out entirely yet, but I feel like I'm on to something here, because as it seems to be bizarre, I don't think there is such a thing as not bizarre! All one has to do is look at the state of the world today to observe that. One bizarre thing after another, and it just gets weirder the more you look at it.
@jayhunter1652
@jayhunter1652 Год назад
@@Idothinkysaurus you should unironically read the book. I know it is long and dense but once you read it, I doubt you'll still say that zoroastrianism is an influence to the West
@Idothinkysaurus
@Idothinkysaurus Год назад
@@jayhunter1652 From what I've read, Zoroastrianism led to the Abrahamic religions, the foundations of Western society. I will give it a read.
@Chancetaylor215
@Chancetaylor215 Год назад
Morgoth, have you checked out the works of Amaury de Riencourt? He was a French Spenglerian who wrote in the post-war period and expanded upon these other civilizations in a way that’s faithful to Spengler’s analysis. Despite working entirely within his framework, Riencourt doesn’t mention Spengler, I think so that his interpretations weren’t ignored due to post war anti German bias. The influence is undeniable, however. I especially recommend the Soul of China as well as the Soul of India, each an unfolding of spenglerian history for those civilizations. His work is especially important, I believe, because he’s the only author I know of that actually pursues Spengler’s vision of a new school of historical morphology, he never wanted his work to be a one-and-done.
@MorgothsReview1
@MorgothsReview1 Год назад
No I wasn't aware of him. I tended to go back and read Goethe who had such a profound impact on Spengler but the Frenchman sounds fascinating.
@RavenShinyThings
@RavenShinyThings Год назад
Amazing thoughts and overview on the Russians.
@shnubie
@shnubie Год назад
Morgoth, great video. Thanks to you and others in our circles I am reading Decline of the West currently. According to Spengler can a people for example the Chinese develop a second life feeling or civilization or is it more a case of one and done?
@callummilburn8204
@callummilburn8204 Год назад
Great material and great accent, since my family are from the north east.
@echoecho3155
@echoecho3155 Год назад
It's funny to treat the idea of Faustian culture as something different than our current incarnation when we are, to an extreme degree, the logical conclusion of it. Faustian culture pushes boundaries and explores new frontiers. However, it mapped and conquered the world, and most meaningful cultural boundaries were pushed to their breaking point. Now, many people think we just continue this infinitely into space, but a culture's desires are ultimately limited by physically real pressures. Space exploration, in any significant manned capacity, is impossible. It requires extreme material, monetary, and time investments for little to no return. Going to another star system is out of the picture due to the immense energies required - there is no way to gather, contain, or direct such energy. So what does Faustian man do once he has conquered all without? He turns within. The same impulse that drove explorers to find new lands is now driving academics to find new genders. With no remaining physical limits to overcome, cultural and biological frontiers are the only ones that offer the Faustian impulse an outlet. Hence the focus on inclusion (expansion of a kind) as well as genetic and cybernetic engineering of the human body (to remove "biological chains"). This is the ultimate fate of civilizations. The impulse that served them well and made them successful eventually does them in, its worst aspects devouring all that is good as it metaphysically exhausts itself. Accepting this is a crucial part in figuring out what comes next - and it won't be a glorious rebirth of Faustian man since he never died.
@Amfortas
@Amfortas Год назад
You need to actually read Spengler before making sweeping comments on his philosophy
@rexnemorensis8154
@rexnemorensis8154 Год назад
I wonder if you'd consider doing an analysis of the movie Snowpiercer. To me it seems like an expression of late stage Faustian culture and techno-neofuedalism, where nature has finally imposed limitations on Faustian man through climate disaster. The snowpiercer though continues on in perpetuity, inside every resource is measured, monitored and maintained and every variable accounted for.
@mahadevnepali5646
@mahadevnepali5646 Год назад
Surprised to learn that Spengler had so little or more/less fused (lumping Hinduism & Buddhism together) view on Indian Civilization. Also, not quite understanding his take on there (Indian Civilization) not being so concerned about keeping records for events and figures. Hindu's are particular about maintaining their patrilineal genealogy records, which atleast comprises of 7 Generation, and are used in times of weddings. Along with the patrilineal record, one must also know their Gotra, which is believed to have been based on the SaptaRishis (7 Main Sages) and are not allowed to intermarry within the same Gotra.
@faustianfellaheen
@faustianfellaheen Год назад
Their roots are the same. Buddhism did not just spring out of nowhere. It was a reaction and rationalization of the Hindu worldview. He also lumped judaism and islam together
@Simon_Alexnder
@Simon_Alexnder Год назад
Interesting that for the Egyptians, in the Spenglerian view, Space and Time seem to be the same...
@deesandman9477
@deesandman9477 Год назад
Great presentation. I found myself asking…. What about African civilizations…. Other than Egyptian? Maybe another video for the future. Thanks for the analysis.
@rebecca.smith.
@rebecca.smith. Год назад
Saw this article and thought of you Mr Morg: 'For Black Women, Roller Skating Is The Ultimate Form Of Self-Expression' In celebration of Juneteenth, Clorox hosted a Glow & Roll roller rink at Refinery29 Unbothered's The Glow Up event in Atlanta, resulting in a truly spectacular night rooted in Black joy.
@finlaymcdiarmid5832
@finlaymcdiarmid5832 Год назад
I will never understand that view of life. Its like when you see these charities on telly asking for money specifically for starving girls in india or africa, it just disgusts me to the core that someone could segregate charitable donations to certain races or gender. a starving child is a starving child regardless of gender or race. Yet we on the right are called racist and misogynistic? Victimhood can be such a horrendous and vile thing, which is partly why i have so much admiration for Jewish people of whom have suffered tremendously and still face ridiculous claims against them yet its rare you will ever hear a practicing jew or just a ethnic jew complain, they just march on. Maybe thats why they are more successful! and not because they are out to kill us all!
@iandonnelly522
@iandonnelly522 Год назад
Well this is fascinating....Jung observed a similar thing although different to Spengler....the I Ching is an amazing book....it’s like universal binary code and operates on a completely different level to Western thought and Theology....the thinking is completely different to the logical and rational framework of the West....its intuitive and predicated on the notion of synchronicity (meaningful coincidence).....now if we look at the work of McGilchrist (who’s an absolute genius and polymath) he gives us quite a radical explanation between the two hemispheres of the brain .....one is rational and the other creative and intuitive....with conditioning the left is the more dominant and mechanistic (as has happened throughout the enlightenment) with the right being more subservient .....henceforth the different nodes and indeed modes of thinking in the west....
@seanoneil277
@seanoneil277 Год назад
Anything coming from Asia will be of that simpler, baseline view of communicating principles. Wordiness, and using language as adornment in itself, as foggery, as confusing pomposity -- that's pretty much a Western world phenomenon. In contrast, ancient Chinese or Japanese philosophy, or existential thought, tends to be communicated in simple ideas and parables. The distillation to simple notions is a reflection of an ancient culture with many generations of mistakes to learn from, and a desire to keep things as simple as possible for the task required.
@satireofcircumstance6458
@satireofcircumstance6458 Год назад
While it was dismissed at the time, read Immanuel Velikovsky's "Earth in Upheaval." In line with the Yuga cyclical system of time, the world (and therefore any civilisations) is periodically practically wiped clean with cataclysms of inconceivable scale and ferocity (i.e. asteroid strikes, crustal displacements and the associated cataclysmic effects, and the like). Nearly every culture on Earth has an ancient "flood myth." Europe and North America have both been nearly fully inundated with the ocean at times, with whales and exotic flora and fauna from Africa and elsewhere ending up being washed into the northern continents in gargantuan quantities. Geologically, the Himalayas, as just one example, may be as young as only a few _tens of thousands_ of years old, not millions. (As an aside, the Giza pyramids, the Sphinx, etc. were built in a prior epoch, not by the Egyptians - to the Egyptians, "Zep Tepi" or, the time of the "Gods"). Much of what is covered in this book is now being shown to be basically correct since it was written in the 50s (see for instance the "Younger Dryas" event). Moreover, Velikovsky also wrote "Worlds in Collision" wherein he postulates that Earth may have had close encounters with Venus and/or Mars (hence the various Greek myths concerning these two bodies, Jupiter etc.), as well as changing our orbit from 360 days to 365 days - again, as recently as within recorded history. All far too complicated to properly describe here, but fascinating books both of them.
@newglof9558
@newglof9558 Год назад
Great video. The Russian bit surprised me the most.
@peterv1054
@peterv1054 Год назад
There is this polish-german historian Engels. He made a video in which he told the symbols of the other cultures. As far as I remember, Persia had dualism, China harmony. I forgot what India and the South Americans had.
@varolussalsanclar1163
@varolussalsanclar1163 Год назад
Dualism, the mirroring act of good and evil, "As above so below" is a distinctly jewish/kabbalistic metaphysical understanding, and it comes directly from Yahweh (devil) worship.
@anon2427
@anon2427 Год назад
@@varolussalsanclar1163 it’s hermetic not Semitic…
@gelmibson883
@gelmibson883 Год назад
Wooo!
@jipowap
@jipowap Год назад
I'd like to see a take on some other nascent civilizations, or cultures. The meso-american zone I think would best be described by a bleeding heart stabbed through by a guilded cross. Gruesomeness intended. Before it was a cross, it was an obsidian blade. A spirit that can't help but consume itself.
@keemstarkreamstar7069
@keemstarkreamstar7069 10 месяцев назад
But they’re violent enough to take action when needed. Look at El Salvador. It isn’t irreformable.
@TheFatController.
@TheFatController. Год назад
Visiting Egypt is an amazing experience. I think it helps you feel how an entire civilisation can just vanish. The Egyptian people are just wandering around the ruins of this once great civilisation, something they are utterly incapable of building now.
@thethinredline4714
@thethinredline4714 Год назад
I think the people living in Egypt today only share a minor part of their genes with the ones who build the pyramids, besides most Muslim don't care about pre Islamic culture, only as far as it can make them money
@varolussalsanclar1163
@varolussalsanclar1163 Год назад
Thats because most people living in Egypt, who are Arabs, have nothing to do with the people who built the pyramids.
@titanomachy2217
@titanomachy2217 8 месяцев назад
That's just it: there basically are no Egyptians left. They were replaced by Arabs.
@HarryG-man
@HarryG-man Год назад
Is it worth getting the full version of Decline of the west over the abridged version? It costs a lot of money to get the unabridged version. Or can you recommend a decent version of both books that wont break the bank?
@piercebrosnan9528
@piercebrosnan9528 Год назад
That's Scott Mannion on youtube if you want to check him out, I think you will enjoy him.
@-V-K-
@-V-K- Год назад
We used to give cards with a key on them to people on their 21st. I wonder if we still do. People thought it was literally a key to the house. An old custom from ancient Egypt who knew that the soul _should_ be fully assimilated with the physical body at around that age. Just as it gradually releases its hold on the body as we become very aged.
@thethinredline4714
@thethinredline4714 Год назад
are you Egyptian ?
@-V-K-
@-V-K- Год назад
​@@thethinredline4714 No , I'm a Brit.
@thethinredline4714
@thethinredline4714 Год назад
@@-V-K- ok interesting about the card
@Sarah-ok6xq
@Sarah-ok6xq Год назад
I'm simple I guess, but I immediately thought of Admiral Thrawn from Star Wars when Spengler's comments with regard to understanding a civilization through art was discussed. I wonder how enjoyable it would be to place the ideas and personalities of Ibsen, Spengler and such in the mouths of star wars people. It might be more fun to have Shatner Kirk reacting to them, rather than star wars people. "Dammit commodore, damn civilization cycles, these are Klingons we're talking about! KLINGONS MAN, KLINGONS!"
@sonofphilip8229
@sonofphilip8229 Год назад
Have anyone ever watched Princess Mononoke as a civilizational parable? The different animal clans actually represent the different civilizations/races.
@saxglend9439
@saxglend9439 Год назад
I don't watch cartoons.
@dagon99
@dagon99 Год назад
@@saxglend9439 plenty of cartoons with complex, meaningful themes. Berserk, Vagabond, Vinland saga, etc
@isaac.castillo
@isaac.castillo Год назад
You missed the Mayan culture and the short and tragic history of the Aztecs.
@babyblue-jj1be
@babyblue-jj1be 5 дней назад
The only two cultures that did not go through the cycle but were destroyed by an outside force. Sad almost makes me cry
@bruceyboy5280
@bruceyboy5280 Год назад
👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@saxglend9439
@saxglend9439 Год назад
If winter comes can spring be far behind?
@drakieon
@drakieon Год назад
For another people, another culture. What is dead cannot be bought to life, even within a fellah people's
@-lollipopsunder-7044
@-lollipopsunder-7044 Год назад
This video is very informative and thoughtful. So much so it makes me wonder in the context of modernity if this is the first time humanity has united on the earth. Really makes one think about the nature of culture and the deep strangeness of a time where the geopolitical boundaries that creates these radically different minds and cultures are muddled and distorted in a Babylonian tower of trade and communication and technology.
@christopherraymond4826
@christopherraymond4826 Год назад
...it's "The Decline of the West"...not the Decline and Fall of the West"...and I've read this two volume set...he has a good grasp of what may have happened and...why...
@titanomachy2217
@titanomachy2217 8 месяцев назад
Must have mixed it up with Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.
@Johnson30-06
@Johnson30-06 Год назад
Unlike everything else in ancient Egypt, the great pyramid has no writing inside except a single misspelled phrase over the supposed tomb, which raises questions about whether it is really Egyptian.
@abelc2548
@abelc2548 Год назад
What is the name f the painting representing the steppes ? 45:30 ?
@Vingul
@Vingul Год назад
Found it using reverse image search, it's "Rye" by Alexey Savrasov, from 1881. Here it is in Cyrillic: Файл:Алексей К. Саврасов - Рожь (1881)
@valentusdolor3742
@valentusdolor3742 3 месяца назад
It seems that some of todays' Brits since Brexit are more often ideologically confused than not: That any of them would appreciate a thinking that took part in the birth of fashism which they fought in WW2 is especially hard to get for a German after all...
@seanoneil277
@seanoneil277 Год назад
Thanks for doing this, Morgoth. Did you ever read "The Archdruid Report" blog by J M Greer? He was a huge fan of Spengler -- it almost seemed Greer gave Prophet status to Spengler, and often he wrote essays saying how this cultural event or that historical development was already predicted by Spengler -- and then he'd say how, based on Spengler saying such-and-such in this work or that. Greer now has some other outlet that's behind a paywall (like his contemporary JH Kunstler) and I don't know if The Archdruid Report is still open. Might need the wayback machine. I like to think of Spengler's take as an interesting one, and certainly a self-assured one presented by a man who'd thought deeply. But I also like to think, "is that what I'd conclude from the same points of information?" If his observations can be seen as prophetic -- is that because only he could see them, or only because he bothered to write them down. Think of the things credited to American "industrialists" or "inventors" that actually were first observed and studied by Tesla. Thinkers like Spengler are best used as reality-checks on what the reader has come to "know" (really truly -- assume!) about events learned in one's basic elementary & secondary education. And also whatever one might've learned in college or grad school. But to really impove your own skills, to help you learn to be more like Spengler, you have to ask that question -- "is that also what I see, from the same points of information? Or do I see perhaps a few different causes, or solutions?" Great seed for fruitful thought and further discussion.
@saxglend9439
@saxglend9439 Год назад
Greer is a Druid.
@seanoneil277
@seanoneil277 Год назад
@@saxglend9439 And water is wet. Someone with a blog called "The Archdruid Report" is a druid? Impossible, I tell you.
@swikles713
@swikles713 Год назад
you should start a playlist for all your Spengler videos
@MorgothsReview1
@MorgothsReview1 Год назад
Yeah I will do.
@swikles713
@swikles713 Год назад
@@MorgothsReview1 also I was particularly intrigued with the Russian part. If youre up to it and if Spengler has enough to talk about on it, a whole video on just Russia would be interesting.
@emZee1994
@emZee1994 Год назад
It would be interesting to know how Spengler views Orthodox Christianity and Byzantium. Are they a part of this Magian civilizations? Or are they a part of this Russian civilization? And by Russian does he mean Slavic? Or just Orthodox Slavic? Or narrowly just that Eurasian landmass? I'd also like to know where he places Persia and Iran in all this
@AlIskanderZhao
@AlIskanderZhao Год назад
I seem to recall Spengler doesn't think Orthodox Christianity is part of the Russian civilisation. Russian civilisation has not been able to come into its own due to adopting Orthodoxy
@babyblue-jj1be
@babyblue-jj1be 5 дней назад
@@emZee1994 He counted Persia under Magian/Arabian. And he considered Orthodox Christianity to be the Magian Christianity in opposition to the Faustian Chritianity that developed in Europe after Charlemagne. He also called this Faustian Christianity the mother of bolshevism and said Bolshevism a Faustian idealogy was foreign when forced upon the non-Faustian Russian people
@stephenmurray2851
@stephenmurray2851 Год назад
Is this not on any alternative platform? I can't see it uploaded to the chute
@skovdvaleren8211
@skovdvaleren8211 Год назад
What’s the best english translation of “Decline of The West”?
@giulio2017
@giulio2017 Год назад
READy
@EricFieldBttryBulldog
@EricFieldBttryBulldog Год назад
I think Google shadow banned this episode. I’m subscribed to your material but this never showed up in my notifications.
@tildoyagins7931
@tildoyagins7931 Год назад
I gotta know what this intro music is man, shazam gives me nothin!
@paralleloctagon7062
@paralleloctagon7062 Год назад
From my own thinking I would agree with most of Spengler's points here, although clearly the whole civilisations as hermetically-sealed is a fiction for theoretical simplicity. On the classical civilisation, I also note that the Romans and Greeks, although less ahistorical than India, merged their history with that of the gods, unlike the Egyptians who like the Chinese had an obsession with accurate chronologies and king-lists which were almost secular. Rome had much of their pre-Brennus history invented by patriotic writers like Livy or Virgil, and did not seem to realise the falsehoods and unreality (or didn't care). Also, it might be noted that Christianity under the Roman Empire, in its early forms (including 'heretical' such as Gnosticism) feels very different than the Christianity of the Germanic-'Faustian' civilisation which I would suggest begins with the Merovingians. Roman Christianity has a more 'Magian' feel to use Spengler's terminology, for reasons I can't really express in writing. I suggest the fact that early Christians met in catacombs and built basilicas (which look like Mosques) rather than Gothic cathedrals with large spires is notable. Also, does Spengler explain _how_ different civilizational-cultural forms develop? Would it not be possible for a world-civilisation to develop over the next few centuries which merges the worldviews of the existing ones of today into something completely new?
@cccccc1
@cccccc1 Год назад
Just to note, Mosques were built in the style of Christian architecture of the time, mimicking Christian basillicas. The gothic architecture or western style appeared far later.
@supahnubz
@supahnubz Год назад
@Parallel Octagon Spengler himself classified the early Christians as Magian, and includes the Franks within that. He dates the Faustian civilisation to the 10th century iirc.
@paralleloctagon7062
@paralleloctagon7062 Год назад
@@cccccc1 exactly, the line between the classical and magian is not very distinct, especially as Rome 'orientalised' itself by uniting all the near east. The closeness of Islam to Rome might not please some, but perhaps the claim of the Ottomans to be inheritors of the Roman Empire might not be to inaccurate.
@paralleloctagon7062
@paralleloctagon7062 Год назад
@@supahnubz Thats interesting, as that would put Charlemagne, the 'founder of Europe' in the cliche historical narrative external to the 'western' Faustian culture.
@supahnubz
@supahnubz Год назад
@@paralleloctagon7062 Moreover, it was put him in the same civilisation as the Caliphs.
@cuttysark57
@cuttysark57 Год назад
I think at the end of his life Marx became very interested in the Russian peasantry and began to see potential there for the realization of communism -- not only in a proletarian revolution against the capitalist bourgeoisie.
@varolussalsanclar1163
@varolussalsanclar1163 Год назад
Marx? Thats a funny way of saying Mordechai.
@finlaymcdiarmid5832
@finlaymcdiarmid5832 Год назад
Agrarian society? Thats strange because two things of which you have said were the alterations of Mao and Pol pot to their respective ideologies.
@christophmahler
@christophmahler Год назад
Once 'Morgoth's Review' moves beyond _the single source_ of Oswald Spengler - whose approach is arguably based on Leopold Ranke's first outlines of a 'global history' from the perspective of 'German Idealism' (that is striving to synthesize between _'an unreflected British empiricism'_ and _'a French doctrinaire rationalism'_ ) - and spends time with _completely foreign sources and concepts_ , e.g. Russian and Chinese literature and artwork, a look back - at the 'New Atlantis' of Francis Bacon, based on the Reformation and English Revolutions - will be more revealing (to take *Goethean 'rational empiricism'* as a guide star will help to look at matters, less biased). Only the 'enlightened' West and those who had been 'Westernized', believe in _an exclusively secular progress by technological innovation and social engineering_ - that in fact, completely _alienates_ man from himself. Therefore, every other civilization, faithfully preserving the tradition of _the enlightenment of the soul as preparation for another life_ - in one form or another - regards the West as an existential threat, not just to themselves and their loved ones, _but mankind_ . For Indian civilization, religious practice prevents an untimely cataclysm on a cosmic scale, the West, deconstructing it's own Christian eschatological ethos, will face an emmanation of 'Shiva' - the destroyer - before realizing their state of indoctrination (also within _modernist_ nationalist and dissident circles, parroting a CFR/CIA/Radio Free Europe construct of English or American identity). Medians were nomads when confronting the first historical empire of Assur, sedentary Russians are the heirs to the nomadic - and meritocratic - Mongols who had fluctuated between their original Tengrism of the steppes, Nestorian Christianity and Shia Islam (Ilkhanate of Persia) and Tibetan Buddhism (Yuan dynasty of China) - when they controlled the Silk Road like the Kushans and the 'Huns', before them - the sole reason why the West was scrambling to find another traderoute to India after the fall of Constantinople, rediscovering the Americas in the process. If one studies the history of China, one can notice how it's rural people outlived several foreign dynasties, either assimilating them or destroying them in popular revolts as in 1911 against the originally nomadic Manchu who ceeded into collaboration with a coalition force of Western colonialism, all of them rejected as well on *May Fourth 1919* , years before 'Kung-Fu master Marx' was tought to the Triads among miners at the Anyuan strike of 1922 - as the Russian Revolution of 1917 was to China what the American and French Revolutions of 1776 and 1789 are to Europe. When the British Empire subjugated the modernizing Germans (superior shipbuilding, chemical industry) in two world wars, Russia and China had the opportunity to modernize and grow - and that is the fate of the ideological West: that it can't clamp down upon the entire globe _at once_ as opposition will form, naturally - _like an opposing argument when pondering the question_ : _what is man_ ? Below the fassade of written historiography, there's *the actual historical process* that can be grasped _partially_ - especially when secluding into a wilderness - but never clearly _in full_ - as if it were a 'divine economy', befitting a God. The currency of an actual 'Third Rome' will not be built upon the desire to generally accumulate ever larger sums of profit, but upon realistic, particular needs of the polity.
@-V-K-
@-V-K- Год назад
Do you think it was Francis Bacon & some associates who wrote Shakespeare. I think so. Just asking.
@christophmahler
@christophmahler Год назад
@@-V-K- "Do you think it was Francis Bacon & some associates who wrote Shakespeare." I don't. I assume these kind of theories being on the same level of the legendary 'Money Pit' in Nova Scotia and 'moving coffins' in Barbados. _Masons_ love ideas that seem intriguing, but lead nowhere.
@-V-K-
@-V-K- Год назад
@@christophmahler OK thanks
@christophmahler
@christophmahler Год назад
@@-V-K- Try to look into the origins of an idea and You may get an instinctive grasp of it's purpose. The 'Oxfordian theory of Shakespeare authorship' should give You a sense that _local group interests_ may be at play - e.g. promoting a cryptic curiosity into the _utopian_ writings of Francis Bacon within public opinion - the forerunner of _framing_ 'the current thing' in our time.
@NothingHumanisAlientoMe
@NothingHumanisAlientoMe Год назад
I wonder how the existence of sub cultures fit into the Cycle, competing factions of the future?
@Dino_Medici
@Dino_Medici 4 месяца назад
Well put
@R1chbloke8
@R1chbloke8 Год назад
Interesting perspective. There are key, and often overlooked, inconsistencies in the consensus Dynastic Egypt narrative that deserves investigation (speaking as an archaeology graduate). A good place to start is the controversy surrounding the age of the Sphinx and its the limestone-built temples immediately next to it. Another are the finely-cut hard stone vessels, 10s of thousands of them, recovered from the c.5 km of catacombs beneath the alleged first dynastic pyramid at the Saqqara.
@josephjones5070
@josephjones5070 Год назад
The idea of the petrification of the Russian spirit is a fascinating thing to consider given current events. One wonders what it's expression will be if and when it eventually emerges from the tomb it has been encased within. This may be a bit of a goofy observation, but I find it interesting that we are seeing the coincidence of the flat earth meme emerging back into reality just as the Russian spirit seems to be awakening after it's terrible trials during the last century. This came to me when I heard Spanglers symbol for Russia being the infinite plain. That is very similar to the imagination of the flat earth. Morgoth, thank you very much for these examinations of Spengler's philosophy. I listen to a very wide variety of media, but most of it is hard on the soul. In contrast, these videos are one of the few things that I really enjoy listening to. Thank you.
@Buster_Piles
@Buster_Piles Год назад
The voice of my people.
@saimbhat6243
@saimbhat6243 Год назад
It is PETERONISM from peter the great, not peterism from petrified.
@beeben5260
@beeben5260 Год назад
Uh
@ioupiter42
@ioupiter42 Год назад
“Practically every era of Western civilization has at one time or another tried to liberate itself from the Greeks, in deep dissatisfaction because whatever they themselves achieved, seemingly quite original and sincerely admired, lost color and life when held against the Greek model and shrank to a botched copy, a caricature. Time and time again a hearty anger has been felt against that presumptuous little nation which had the nerve to brand, for all time, whatever was not created on its own soil as “barbaric”. Who are these people, whose historical splendor was ephemeral, their institutions narrow, their mores dubious and sometimes objectionable, who yet pretend to the special place among the nations which genius claims among the crowd? None of the later detractors was fortunate enough to find the cup of hemlock with which such a being could be disposed of once and for all: all the poisons of envy, slander, and rage have proved insufficient to destroy that complacent magnificence. And so, people have continued to be both ashamed and fearful of the Greeks-though now and again someone has come along who has acknowledged the full truth: that the Greeks are the chariot drivers of every subsequent culture, but that almost always, chariot and horses are of too poor a quality for the drivers, who then make sport of driving the chariot into the abyss-which they themselves clear with the bold leap of Achilles.” - Friedrich Nietzsche, The Birth of Tragedy
@nullifye7816
@nullifye7816 Год назад
Using the bold leap metaphor actually again instantiates Greek high culture into the body an its actions.
@WhiteBaronn
@WhiteBaronn 4 дня назад
Why would Faustian culture try to copy the Greeks or be jealous of them? The Greeks did not invent planes and space travel the Faustian man did. The Greeks did not even have a sense of time, what a primitive shallow people. Nietzsche was a genius but sometimes he was way too dramatic
@nullifye7816
@nullifye7816 Год назад
The domes that you point out for the islamic high culture are all Christian Byzantine architecture, ie. late, eastern Roman, early Christian architecture. That looked like the Hagia Sophia you first showed at 31:08, the greatest of all our "appropriated" churches. At 34:11, if you scrubbed off the "appropriations", that wouldn't be any different to any Orthodox church I've attended. Perhaps the calligraphy would be an alternative route to go down? That and the infinite geometry seems the primary Islamic art form (possibly for religious law reasons). I suppose you could say they "appropriated" that form because it suited their spirit? The Islamic dome is typically pointed and less dome-like, although the "half-dome" they've invented, basically a flat wall with a half-dome recess forming the building facade, which looks bizarre to me, does look quite cave-entrance-like. I do think Spengler is onto something with the internal struggle, light vs dark, cave stuff. This was really nice Morgoth, university lecture level stuff. Or rather superior, nowadays. Thank you.
@user-ww1yg1fq5r
@user-ww1yg1fq5r Год назад
Like English history in 50 years, will be told to a population that isn't English.. Irish history is being told as a people who stole the land from Africans, and now they are taking it back RTE ( BBC). The African Irish are talking about how the Irish were slaves in the Americas were black because the English called them swarthy. What will the new population of Ireland be told about us in 50 years? Their golden age...
@babyblue-jj1be
@babyblue-jj1be 5 дней назад
@@nullifye7816 Islamic Domes come from what Spengler called Magian Christianity, Orthodox Christianity which shares more with Magian culture anyway Spengler on the other hand called Europe's Christianity as Faustian Christianity which had little or even absolutely nothing in common with Magian Orthodox Christianity
@WhiteBaronn
@WhiteBaronn 4 дня назад
Orthodox Christianity is literally the more Magian/Arabian version of Christianity. YOU owe to the Magian culture, they do not owe to you
@finlaymcdiarmid5832
@finlaymcdiarmid5832 Год назад
Dostoyevsky being the father of bolshevism might have more creedence than you think. I was talking to someone yesterday about the barbarians in gaul in comparison to the vikings and i quoted edward gibbons decline and fall of the roman empire to which the person i was talking to said he was a propagandist and a "first generation humeian" i thought this was a bit harsh and my point was although hume went on to stir the pot of liberalism and lead to todays travesties of thought, he did not write das kapital or overthrow governments in 1848 he just unknowingly fathered a ideology of which when his time past he could no longer parent. My point with Dostoyevsky is later in his life he became a sort of paternal conservative icon of russia, independent of western culture. His previous mistress in his youth was socialism and all the jazz that comes with that. i think to put it figuratively he fathered the child of bolshevism in his youth with his mistress socialism, but it was not born until near his passing to which he was estranged from said mistress and probably retiring from public thought. He was probably seen as a threat from the right to the marxists and general socialists who then went on to seize public thought by force when they first took over russia. Im not an expert on the early history of the struggle to institute communism but im quite sure they did not have huge support for communism, only against the Czar/Tsar regime of which they used to justify them seizing power and instituting "the dictatorship of the proletariat" which is also of course a phrase used to make it sound less like a authoritarian government of which they were supposed to have just desposed of! Anyway the point is you don't always live long enough to parent your children and sometimes you die before they are born and their wicked mothers raise them instead.
@thethinredline4714
@thethinredline4714 Год назад
I think it was Tolstoy he said was the father of Bolshevism
@finlaymcdiarmid5832
@finlaymcdiarmid5832 Год назад
@@thethinredline4714 i don't think he did.
@finlaymcdiarmid5832
@finlaymcdiarmid5832 Год назад
@@australopithecusafarensis5386 i read that he flirted with it early on.
@joeshmoe7899
@joeshmoe7899 Год назад
Smarty pants Dugin learned the cost of free speech, and intellectual freedom.
@therespectedlex9794
@therespectedlex9794 Год назад
Do you ever think, it's funny that Biffa Bacon's so right wing? Or, that you're lucky to even have someone that well known to compare yourself to?
@davydacounsellor
@davydacounsellor Год назад
Mind/body/spirit. Egyptian-western material thinking, Chinese-soulbody, Indian -spirit. Father material, son body, ether spirit.awesome look at civilizations working to be one someday.
@babyblue-jj1be
@babyblue-jj1be 5 дней назад
Please do more on Russia. They are the only White people left with any possibility
@blacklisted4885
@blacklisted4885 Год назад
He was right about India, it took British amateur explorers to discover Indian history and protect it, the Indians themselves had no interest in it at all
@richardwoollaston3650
@richardwoollaston3650 Год назад
Disappointed with this rather turgid account of Spengler. I had expected a more original and, in true Morgoth style, radical approach.
@mightymqb4800
@mightymqb4800 4 месяца назад
You have a RU-vid account, would you consider maybe uploading one for us to watch? Would be interesting.
@sideriteadamantium4300
@sideriteadamantium4300 Год назад
Interesting video. I don't agree with Spengler on everything though. For example, I think while Marxism is foreign to Russian civilization, Stalinism was a return to the authentic Russian soul in line with Ivan the Terrible. De-Stalinization under Khrushchev was a return to Western-style Marxism, which eventually culminated in the Soviet collapse and imposition of Western liberalism on Russian civilization.
@f-u-nkyf-u-ntime
@f-u-nkyf-u-ntime Год назад
It's ironic that the pyramids were neither tombs nor recent. However every great civilisation has it's roots in the indo European, the architects of the world.
@Confucius_76
@Confucius_76 Год назад
What's the Indo-European connection to Egypt and China?
@echoecho3155
@echoecho3155 Год назад
There really isn't one - they're tenuous at best. The Great Pyramid of Giza was built around 2,600 BC as the tomb for Khufu. Its ancient name translated to something like "The Horizon of Khufu" for this reason. The earliest Egyptian dynasties begin while the Indo-European culture was still spreading, between 5,000 and 3,000 BC. Their nearest Indo-European neighbors, the Hittites and Iranians, wouldn't coalesce into distinct peoples until about 2,000 BC. Before then, they were warrior barbarians and cattle herders. Egypt's main Indo-European connection came with the expansion of Greek culture in 600 BC, which saw the country engage in mass Hellenization (Greek-ificatikon). This was long after most of its greatest achievements were ancient wonders and the civilization had sufferred through the Bronze Age Collapse. At this point, it was in decline, and the great Classical Civilizations of Greece, Carthage, and later Rome would rise to fill its place. To put things in perspective, Cleopatra died closer to the Moon Landing than the Pyramids' construction. As for a connection with China, there's even less of one. The furthest east Indo Europeans made it was the Afnasievo Culture in the Altai Mountains around 3,000 BC. They were herdsmen, but may have possibly introduced complex metallurgy to China, but major local neolithic and early Bronze Age cultures like the Longshan were already well-established at this time.
@Confucius_76
@Confucius_76 Год назад
@@echoecho3155 thanks, I sorta knew that stuff but not the details
@f-u-nkyf-u-ntime
@f-u-nkyf-u-ntime Год назад
@@echoecho3155 firstly the pyramids have not been dated reliably at all, next you'll be telling us the sphinx was built around the same time. Secondly there's very strong evidence that indo European peoples were in the fertile triangle up to 10,000bc bringing metal work and other advanced technologies to the area. From China through to the berbers of North Africa including semitic cultures all have high levels of indo European DNA. Ancient Egyptians for example had up to 60%.
@echoecho3155
@echoecho3155 Год назад
@@f-u-nkyf-u-ntime Oh, you're one of those. Firstly, the pyramids are reliably dated - same for the Sphinx. We have literal historic documents about the Great Pyramid's construction. Anyone telling you otherwise is, knowingly or otherwise, lying to you. Secondly, the Proto-Indo-Europeans didn't exist before 7,500 BC. They didn't start dispersing until around 4,000 BC. If they'd dispersed beforehand, the cultures of Old Europe and the Western Hunter Gatherers would not have left significant genetic or archaeological evidence after 10,000 BC. Trust me, I know a little bit about this since I dabble in reconstructed PIE religion. Understanding the historical context is quite literally of religious importance to me. Knowing this comment section, I'm sure you've wrapped up some portion of your ethnic identity with this ancient group for some reason, but I'd implore you not to reconsider. These were great warriors and spiritualists, but also backwoods barbarians who lived as partially-nomadic bandits and occasionally screwed and were screwed by horses (check out STJ's video on the horse cult for that fun). They were one culture among many, and were latecomers to boom of civilization in the Near East. If that diminishes your view of them for one reason or another, that's a you problem.
@GI.Jared1984
@GI.Jared1984 Год назад
I don't actually see Russia in the ascendance. I believe this is wishful thinking. Spangler is talking about a Russian peasant that no longer exists
@Amfortas
@Amfortas Год назад
The energy still exists there, it has to be manifested. Perhaps when Russia finds itself beyond the confines of Earth we'll see a birth
@bmc8871
@bmc8871 Год назад
Curious if in hindsight America might be considered a different civilization than the Faustian one.
@bellphorusnknight
@bellphorusnknight Год назад
America has a civilization and its called "the great satan"
@E_O_S_
@E_O_S_ Год назад
Ancient Ireland is as or more important then ancient Greece Egypt n Rome
@E_O_S_
@E_O_S_ Год назад
@@australopithecusafarensis5386 it is though.do some research
@zoomerjack.6608
@zoomerjack.6608 Год назад
The druids mainly I'd say are of high importance
@danieldelaney1377
@danieldelaney1377 Год назад
Russia is going nowhere but towards extinction
@mightymqb4800
@mightymqb4800 4 месяца назад
Do you still stand by this?
@babyblue-jj1be
@babyblue-jj1be 5 дней назад
You are wrong
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