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A Christmas Story: A Tale of Technological Nostalgia 

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Clickbait title: This Christmas Video Gonna Get You Hornt
Oh my, what a year it has been! The upside to awful is that it pulls personal successes into stark contrast. I'm trying really hard to focus on those and not on everything else. I do think that, despite everything, I wrote some of my best work this year, and I got to perform at SGDQ which was a total blast, and I helped make one of the best RU-vid documentaries on the site with Lindsay Ellis' Hobbit videos. 2018 has been two years long, but it hasn't all been awful.
Cheers, everyone, have a happy New Year.
Written and performed by Dan Olson
Twitter: / foldablehuman

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@PhilosophyTube
@PhilosophyTube 5 лет назад
Apparently Home Alone airs every year on Christmas Eve in Poland and people have big letter-writing campaigns if the stations think about not doing it!
@MistyPop
@MistyPop 5 лет назад
I'm from Poland and I can confirm that. Although in recent years it's mostly died down, but back in the day (say, 2001-2007) watching "Kevin" was something between national christmas meme and fondly cultivated tradition.
@KazumiShiunsai
@KazumiShiunsai 5 лет назад
In chile is also a tradition xD
@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747
@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 5 лет назад
In Mexico it's always on TV even if it's not Christmas time.
@homomilitia
@homomilitia 5 лет назад
It's a good movie and if we don't watch it we die
@EmeraldMinnie
@EmeraldMinnie 5 лет назад
@@matiasalderetevelazquez9628 Even the third movie where the kid foils an international espionage ring?
@Mordalon
@Mordalon 5 лет назад
I've always seen the movie as intentionally self-aware in it's cynicism. It takes this time of year that is supposed to be all about happiness and good things, and shows how all of that goes wrong. The dogs eat the christmas meal, the radiator is busted, sitting on Santa's lap is a horrifying experience, you get caught swearing and have to be disciplined, and the radio show you enjoy turns out to be just a commercial.
@furryash8388
@furryash8388 3 года назад
"It's a clinker!"
@Nick_CF
@Nick_CF 3 года назад
oh fudge
@Zelkiiro
@Zelkiiro Год назад
@@Nick_CF Only I didn't say "fudge"...
@ffejpsycho
@ffejpsycho Год назад
It was intentionally self aware, and cynical... I mean the book it is adapted from is titled "In God We Trust, All Other's Pay Cash."
@tituslafrombois1164
@tituslafrombois1164 8 месяцев назад
It's definitely self-aware. It's about how we romanticize the unremarkable and the often straight up Bad simply because that was our childhood, we were younger, with less to worry about, and more fascination and wonder at the world. The question becomes rather complex then, about whether the absurd product placement commercial the movie is, is some pillar of self-aware comedy poking fun about how the brands and companies and Things are all we remember, or if that's just a lame excuse to cram a bunch of crummy product placement in.
@TheAbstruseOne
@TheAbstruseOne 5 лет назад
It's becoming increasingly weird to me how much this specific bit has folded in on itself repeatedly. The film about nostalgia is now nostalgia for the nostalgia of the nostalgia. People my age (late 30s/early 40s) are attempting to create the nostalgia of watching the film on marathon with their children that they had with their parents plopping them in front of the TV so they could spike the eggnog and figure out how to put on the rental Santa suit, when the film itself was an attempt to cash in on the 1980s nostalgia for the post-war 1940s/1950s. It's like watching the third turn of a thirty year nostalgia cycle...
@Dorian_sapiens
@Dorian_sapiens 5 лет назад
The parents should upload reaction videos of their kids watching it for the first time, which we can all watch nostalgically 30 years from now.
@jessip8654
@jessip8654 5 лет назад
@@Dorian_sapiens the reaction videos would all be of the kids getting bored and dabbing off to play Fortnite.
@briankrebs7534
@briankrebs7534 5 лет назад
It's like as the younger generations come up and have children, the lack of shared and deep traditions held by contemporary American families results in our desire to construct a new tradition which suits our needs and wants, and which can derive some sense of authority or justification from the nostalgic emotional weight it delivers.
@Dorian_sapiens
@Dorian_sapiens 5 лет назад
@@briankrebs7534 If you look at it the other around, rather than seeking to construct a tradition that suits our needs, it could just be that we're habit-prone and find comfort in the familiar; and deep, long-lived traditions are simply the habits that happen to deliver the most satisfaction, causing them to be copied across society and repeated down through generations.
@rivermundcatradora7061
@rivermundcatradora7061 5 лет назад
a little bit of both, really
@TankHammer
@TankHammer 5 лет назад
While you're not wrong on most points, and the age of the film is something I wasn't aware of until I was an adult, my nostalgia for it and the nostalgia for many doesn't rely so much on the material goods featured in it but much more on the relationship between Ralphie and his father at an age where dads never said I love you and sons sought approval through any desperate means they could. My own father was and in some ways still is like Ralphie's dad in the movie. The short temper, the weird points of pride around things like the lamp and his ability to fix the furnace or a flat tire, those don't map 1:1 but they're still highly relatable. The ending, which you really glossed over, isn't the racist Chinese restaurant scene, but the climax of the BB gun plot where threads come together between the family trying to earn the dad's approval and Ralphie wanting an air rifle for Christmas, which his father reveals to have bought in secret and hidden behind a desk to present to Ralphie "from Santa" even after he and Ralphie's mother (and every other adult in his life) had voiced disapproval. The story isn't about the year all the recognizable brands showed up, but is ultimately the year Ralphie, as a child, finally felt a personal, adult relationship with his dad. The material things he got ended up being disappointing or backfiring (the bb gun, the decoder ring, even the turkey dinner) but the personal moments Ralphie had with his parents or his triumph over the local bully were the moments the movie emphasizes as integral to the importance of that Christmas to adult Ralphie. Those of us with stoic fathers or stressed-out moms or who had a Bruce Banner moment where we learned to stand up for ourselves still feel some authentic feelings with this from our own personal history. It's not as empty as you give it credit for, even if your other points about why we remember it are still pretty valid. Just wanted to voice that.
@jdunlapmusic
@jdunlapmusic 5 лет назад
Ralphie's relationship with his parents resonates with me as well.
@billygoatguy3960
@billygoatguy3960 6 месяцев назад
4 years later i want to add your comment is really damn well communicated
@Machouseproductions
@Machouseproductions 4 года назад
For some reason the part that sticks most with me from "A Christmas Story" was when Ralphie's mom didn't tell his father about the fight with Scut Farkus, because she saw that it was a child fighting back against a bully as opposed to something petty or malicious. It was an incredibly sympathetic depiction of a bullied kid in an age when most adults would have just said "toughen up".
@highjumpstudios2384
@highjumpstudios2384 Год назад
He did toughen up after all, he beat the shit out of Scut Farkus! Who among us could have such a cathartic end to a plot beat like that.
@banjohero1182
@banjohero1182 10 месяцев назад
side note, "scut farkus" might be the best fictional character name ever
@dorpth
@dorpth 7 месяцев назад
My generation's adults approach to bullying wasn't so much "toughen up" as it was "if I didn't see it, it didn't happen". As well as the classic "I don't care who started it", as if punching someone out of nowhere was just as bad as defending yourself. It taught bullies that as long as they hit you while no adults were looking, they would always get away with it.
@baalzeroo
@baalzeroo 5 лет назад
In your conclusion you say: "Childhood nostalgia is a tricky thing, and should always be handled with some skepticism. Children, by and large, lack the means to seek out and to curate... to filter. In the 80s you watched what you did, because that's what was on TV. Whether it was the decision of our parents, or the person doing the scheduling at the network, our childhoods were programmed for us." Which I find interesting, because I've always taken this to be the very message of this film.
@OriginalDonutposse
@OriginalDonutposse Год назад
I would say it’s a facile analysis that arrives at the conclusion that “children can’t curate” - one that’s pretty condescending to children. As a kid in the 80s, I would get the TV guide every week from the Sunday paper, and go through the movie listings in the back to find what I wanted to watch. If it was on at 4am I could set the VCR or I could try to stay up. I didn’t have the variety of choices that I have today, but trading tapes with friends (I had one with Attack of the Killer Tomatoes, invasion of the body snatchers, and Deathrace 2000) could get you out of a rut and bring further variety. Sure, kids had to sit through commercials to watch network programming, sometimes. And as adults, we are still sitting through them, via RU-vid ads, sponsored videos, etc. But I could also throw in one of my 8 6-hour long rocky&bullwinkle tapes that I made by recording the show every night, and binge out without the commercials. Plus, it is possible to have nostalgia for commercials. The commercials recorded in my copies of Charlie Brown Christmas and Frosty and the lion the witch and the wardrobe are ingrained in my memory along with the shows content, and just as much a part of my brain-background-noise as anything else. Finally I’ll say that even commercial free, chosen programming can still be a commercial. How many animes are actually just 1 season long commercials for the manga they’re based on? None of this is meant to be critical of the video or your analysis - just my thinking on the topic. I get that our youth is being commoditized and there are people who have been doing that all the way back to little rascals, probably, and way before. I just wanted to stick up for the kids, because they’re smarter than that comment gives them credit for.
@maddieb.4282
@maddieb.4282 Год назад
@@OriginalDonutposse”um actually, I was a genius child and read the tv guide cover to cover 🤓”
@TheTealHydra
@TheTealHydra 5 месяцев назад
@@maddieb.4282 Imagine thinking this reflects poorly on them and not you
@windmonkey95
@windmonkey95 5 лет назад
I've always looked at A Christmas Story as somewhat of a snide commentary on the consumeristic nature of christmas, rather than as just another catalyst of said consumerism. I think the tagline "A tribute to the original, traditional, one hundred percent, red-blooded, two fisted, all-american christmas" is the perfect way to frame the overly verbose and dramatic retelling of christmas presented to us by adult Ralphie. Not only is the overly exaggerated narration a perfect way to convey how a child feels about exciting events like opening christmas presents, or watching a kid get his tongue stuck to a pole, but hearing a grown man exhaust half of english the dictionary just to tell us about how excited he was for a toy gun highlights just how ridiculous it is that we get so enraptured in consumerism during a holiday that's supposed to be about showing appreciation your loved ones. There is no moral to the movie because there is no moral to christmas, we spend the whole movie watching Ralphie hope for a bb gun and then at the end he gets it and that's all the happy ending we need, we spend all of december hoping for whatever the hell it is we want and hopefully we get it on christmas, and if so, it's a happy ending to the holiday season. The shallow, comedically over exaggerated, materialistic nature of the movie is the perfect reflection of what "the original, traditional, one hundred percent, red-blooded, two fisted all-american christmas" really is, a crummy commercial for ovaltine hidden in behind a fun event.
@GigawingsVideo
@GigawingsVideo 5 лет назад
And it's interesting how Americans seem to view December is the only time to "share love and care" when it can be done any time of the year. But at least this movie is not Christmas with the Kranks.
@Delox3000
@Delox3000 5 лет назад
GigawingsVideo please stop pulling the "Americans" card for everything. We all know that you and share love and care at any point of the year but it doesn't hurt to have a holiday meant to specifically revolve around doing so
@GigawingsVideo
@GigawingsVideo 5 лет назад
@@Delox3000 But it seems to turn into a consumerism cult like movement. The "Buy a gift for your love one or you're a horrible person" and the fact that companies selling new overhyped products targeted for children in December.
@kal2045
@kal2045 5 лет назад
@@GigawingsVideo I think that may just be what you get when you live in THE nation of capitalism. We tend to buy the things that are advertised to us, and when it comes time to demonstrate our love for each other, we are told that love can be shown through a purchase, and so we express it in that way. I doubt if this is any different in any other capitalist nation, but I think it's probably the worst in America. Movies like A Christmas Story which focus so heavily of the falseness of the trappings of consumerism demonstrate that we have been able to realize that there's a problem in our society (we live in one, after all) and how every aspect of it is so devoured by money, but it also shows that we've yet to figure out what to do with the emptiness we feel when faced with things like phoney Christmas cash-grabbing. Consumerism is bad, and it destroys the things we love, but it's also the way things are, and deep down we love it, or at least that's the best conclusion we've been able to come to. All that said, I'd like to think America is just barely beginning to draw some new conclusions about why consumerism feels so bad and what we can do about it. Revolutionary ones, perhaps?
@McCammalot
@McCammalot 5 лет назад
@@GigawingsVideo Having lived in four countries in my lifetime I can say with authority that this "only the USA is consumerist" shtick is pure bull. Stop it. There are plenty of real problems to point out, like grossly unequal healthcare, destruction of the public schooling system, violence, inequality and the shrinking middle class.
@GaleFlamel
@GaleFlamel 5 лет назад
Thank God, a technological nostalgia yearning for a prelapsarian world - by definition: fictional - encapsulated in material objects as signifier of the age of innocence, a false memory of a time that never truly existed, implanted into collective video form by corporate repetition Christmas video!
@myemailaccount3046
@myemailaccount3046 5 лет назад
🤧
@reyluna9332
@reyluna9332 5 лет назад
Me like this movie berry much. It parallels the memories of my first favorite toy and the family and friendships I had in my old neighborhood.
@nicholastosoni707
@nicholastosoni707 2 года назад
Now I'm thinking about what would happen if the Architect from _The Matrix_ started playing Santa.
@jacksyoutubechannel4045
@jacksyoutubechannel4045 Год назад
I do find it odd hearing the movie framed this way though, because this _was_ very much a time that existed. It has a lot of realism and not a ton of sugar coating.
@quichenovel
@quichenovel 5 лет назад
The movie is ABOUT skewering materialism and Christmas traditions-this is clearly seen in the payoff to the BB gun plot where the object of his capitalistic fixation nearly kills him. Like all holiday traditions, it is intentionally manufactured through repetition (in this case by a media conglomerate). But the movie knows what it is.
@hind__
@hind__ 5 лет назад
Authorial intent vs. audience interpretation *shrug*
@headphonic8
@headphonic8 Год назад
@@hind__you have to be pretty dumb not to see it. I mean the entire reason the ovaltine joke or Mall Santa scene is funny is literally because of the absurdity of consumerism
@dorpth
@dorpth 7 месяцев назад
Yeah I'm usually behind this channel as one of the best sources of well thought out viewpoints, but this critique misses the mark so hard that it almost comes off as manufactured controversy clickbait. So many things that stick out as just plain wrong: - It absolutely was a cult classic far before the late 90s, and was a hit with boomers years before Gen X/Y matured. It hit cult status in late 80s, early 90s at the absolute latest. Maybe that's just more Canada being 10 years behind? - "Good, successful Christmas movies aren't endlessly broadcast". Diehard and Christmas Vacation would disagree. - "It's a vignette movie that only has great individual scenes"...uhhh, isn't that the entire point of a vignette movie? Would you dock Pulp Fiction for not having a continuous narrative arc? - It was wildly obvious to even children of the 80s/90s/00s that the wall device was connected to the furnace, an old fashioned thermostat. Fathers flipping out over home repair projects is a pretty universal childhood memory. How can anyone look at the thermostat shaped thing, watch as the furnace freaks out when the mother touches it, and NOT figure out that it's a furnace control? How can anyone think, "Nobody who didn't grow up with a coal fired furnace has any idea what's going on in this scene"?? That's like saying Gen Z wouldn't recognize a corded telephone. I might believe that a Generation Alpha kid who grew up on smartphones controlling the household temperature wouldn't know what it is, but anyone born before 2010 absolutely does. - Kids absolutely hold Christmas as a celebration of material things. Ralphie ultimately gets that bubble burst, as all kids do. The whole point was the nostalgia of what fools we all were for holding up those things as the most important, when it was really all about the memories. As badly aged as the Chinese singing joke was, it was the perfect punctuation to that theme. The "ideal" christmas turkey experience was ruined, but they ended up with something more important, a family christmas dinner they would never forget. I'm really just shocked Dan (whom I otherwise love) missed all these points so bad. That's like saying It's a Wonderful Life was about material wealth because everyone gives George money at the end. His whole takeaway is that it's nostalgia for something that was never true. I get the feeling that applies more to his past experience with the film. I wager it was always playing at home during Christmas while he was a kid, as he resented it because it was "boring" if you're a kid and don't understand nostalgia, except for "a few great scenes" that even a kid can laugh at like the funny elf or oinking like a pig. He held on to that early impression and never let go, believing in a past that never happened, where nobody ever legitimately liked the movie and only adhered to it as a brainwash ritual drilled into our brains every year.
@SophiefromMars
@SophiefromMars 5 лет назад
It was only 10 minutes? I've been duped! Nah but really this was great. Thanks Dan, and MERRY CHRISTMAS!
@rubydreadful
@rubydreadful 2 года назад
Hey I know this is an old comment but I just wanted to say that your Resimania videos have been absolute bangers and I hope you have a merry christmas.
@johnsmith5669
@johnsmith5669 5 лет назад
I've always (back to when I was a kid) kinda seen this movie as satire of sorts. I mean it's not some great Swiftian achievement or anything, but I think the moral is more family oriented than you give it credit for. The scene that stands out to me is the one where Ralphie pummels the bully. His whole mission throughout the film is to get a bb gun, this sort of facsimile of violence; he has childhood fantasies of shooting the bad guys, being a hero. But, halfway or so through the movie he's confronted with real violence, in probably one of the most powerfully blunt scenes in a family movie, with the exception of Watership Down. And instead of triumph, he spends the rest of the day crying afraid of upsetting his dad, again painfully realistic. I think the movie is about the shifting from childhood expectations to adult realities. Parents are not vindictive monsters that only want to ruin your fun, they just want you to be safe and to be a good person ("you'll shoot your eye out"; saying fuck). Toys, games, and stories are not what the world revolves around, they're an aspect of life that can harm and disappoint you ("drink your ovaltine"; he almost does shoot his eye out). The moral at the end of the story is fairly existential; daily life, school, Christmas dinner, Santa, are kind of irrelevant, but not necessarily meaningless. That's just my take anyway.
@NugicusStreetPhotography
@NugicusStreetPhotography 5 лет назад
The God of hipsters screen captured your comment and posted it on twitter.
@johnsmith5669
@johnsmith5669 5 лет назад
Thanks for the heads up. As a side note I wasn't reading Swift at nine years old, but I've never thought of this film as trying to sell me BB guns and Ovaltine, but I guess I'm just a pretentious asshole.
@fossilfighters101
@fossilfighters101 2 года назад
@@johnsmith5669 im interpreting "swiftian" as referring to taylor swift
@jacksyoutubechannel4045
@jacksyoutubechannel4045 Год назад
In a weird parallel, I see this as sort of the movie version of the song "White Woman's Instagram" from Bo Burnham's comedy special, _Inside._ A lot of "it's funny because it's true" vignettes; but ultimately, though the things the woman posts may be stereotypical and seem rote and overdone, that doesn't make them meaningless.
@zeldadungeon
@zeldadungeon 5 лет назад
Come to think of it, I don’t know if I’ve ever watched the whole movie...
@johnnybutler4465
@johnnybutler4465 5 лет назад
Funny. I was born in 1969 and remember seeing bits and pieces of this movie for years, but never being particularly impressed and never seeing it in it's entirety. In my 40's, I've discovered it as the classic it is, without the nostalgia. This is one of my all time favorite Christmas movies because it is an expertly crafted piece of cinema. And I don't think it's as vapid as this video declares. Beyond the BB gun, beyond the turkey, beyond the electric sex gleaming in the window,. the movie is at it's very heart about the relationships in the house. The bond and trust with the mother, the empathy and gentleness of the father,. etc.. The movie has way more to do with fighting back, the death of childhood dillusions, the forgiveness and love of our families, and what it is to be safe, and loved. The material, branded, commercial landscape is just that, the landscape, not the journey or the journeyman. This film is most of all about childhood and family,..Christmas is really only part of the landscape as well.
@chgunnproductions
@chgunnproductions 5 лет назад
I enjoyed this video but I think you're missing a lot of the irony going on in the movie. A lot of the elements that you dislike are what the film is mocking. The writer of the monologues, book, and movie has said that the story is meant to be "anti-nostalgic writing". It's a critique of the way we view our past through the lens of nostalgia. You're correct about the reason for it's latent popularity but I think the film itself is really good. Personally I was introduced to the film as a teen because my grandmother owned a copy, so I am pretty detached from the 24 hour marathon thing.
@wasd____
@wasd____ 3 года назад
"A lot of the elements that you dislike are what the film is mocking." I don't think the film is actually mocking them. It's _pretending_ to mock them. There isn't much real, meaningful criticism of any of the things the movie purports to "mock," they're all just played for laughs. Which is fair enough, since it's just a seasonal comedy, not some deep cultural deconstruction. But ultimately, to me, not much in the film comes off as any kind of illuminating irony, so much as it wants you to _think_ it does. It's really just pulling a "How do you do, fellow kids?"
@BurgundyBurnouts
@BurgundyBurnouts 5 лет назад
we all know he filmed the intro last
@Tonbizzle
@Tonbizzle 5 лет назад
As a beard owner, that's the first thing that popped into my head "Well that was filmed last"
@BurgundyBurnouts
@BurgundyBurnouts 5 лет назад
@@Tonbizzle saaame
@MrBrothasky
@MrBrothasky 5 лет назад
🤷‍♂️
@brookeworley5140
@brookeworley5140 5 лет назад
After he did that, I thought to myself "now did he film that last, or is he doing the whole video like that?" And then a few seconds later got my answer lol
@CalebRuiz
@CalebRuiz 5 лет назад
My thoughts exactly
@ericregis3670
@ericregis3670 5 лет назад
While I agree with that "A Christmas Story" is fondly remembered largely due to the way broadcast television enables nostalgia, I think you downplay how subversive the film's treatment of its own internal nostalgia is. While Ralphie and the plot are fixated on the commercialized Christmas experience--that getting that one shiny toy is the key to happiness--the humor of the film comes from it continually taking the piss out of the increasingly capitalistic American holiday tradition. One of the scenes that best illustrates this is one where Ralphie visits the mall Santa. It perfectly captures the experience: the long line of snot-nosed brats and weary parents, the half-assed costumes, the underpaid and equally weary actors. One can almost hear the faint echo of Holden Caufield in the background muttering: "I am surrounded by phonies." Indeed, Santa Claus as pop culture icon can interpreted as a metaphor for the idealized, broadcast-television version of Christmas that only children are stupid enough to believe in. And make no mistake, while Ralphie is a clever boy, he is also a stupid, stupid fucking kid. And throughout the course of the film he slowly learns that the Original, Traditional, One-Hundred-Percent, Red-Blooded, Two-Fisted, All-American Christmas is phony and super bullshit. And yet, I would not go so far as to call the film cynical. Even though it exposes a lot of Christmas' imperfections, the film has genuine moments of sincerity. The brief flashes of intimacy between the members of the family is sincere. The look of pride when Ralphie's father gives him a Red Ryder Carbine Action 200-shot Range Model air rifle is sincere. And I think these moments are what are ultimately redeem the film.
@pupyfan69
@pupyfan69 5 лет назад
the leading interpretation of a text and the phenomena this interpretation is used to justify the reinforcement of are arguably more important than the authorial intent of the text itself. "A Christmas Story" is not remembered as subversive, therefore it is, for all intents and purposes, not subversive. don't @ me
@Caveboy0
@Caveboy0 5 лет назад
Mother Fucker Unlimited anything subversive can be misinterpreted what’s your point?
@chaosvii
@chaosvii 5 лет назад
Marco Miceli my guess is that MFU’s point is that if and when the effect on the audience is virtually identical to the opposite of the intended message, then the text has failed to deliver on the author’s intent. Aka: *If you fail hard enough, your original message doesn’t get to matter, because almost nobody is transmitting it, nearly nobody is valuing it, and therefore next to no one is using that message except through layered irony.*
@pupyfan69
@pupyfan69 5 лет назад
exactly. i was zonked out on allergy meds when i made the previous comment
@pupyfan69
@pupyfan69 5 лет назад
however, i'd say the distortion of intent is more time warner's doing if anything
@RadicalReviewer
@RadicalReviewer 5 лет назад
Thank you for returning to using puppets!!!
@mrclueuin
@mrclueuin 5 лет назад
Yeah, thanks! I missed those guys! 👍☺
@car-keys
@car-keys 5 лет назад
The puppets were the worst part of this channel. They come off as a gimmick to make the channel different, when his points aught to speak for themselves. I hope he keeps away from them in the future
@RadicalReviewer
@RadicalReviewer 5 лет назад
I miss the foldable human...change my mind
@ronnocis
@ronnocis 5 лет назад
What would be a better time for it than a video about nostalgia?
@leelewis8749
@leelewis8749 5 лет назад
I like having Dan front and centre using the puppets as the spice to make it that much better. I really appreciate a devil puppet walking into screen just to ask if the aliens fuc
@Kathy_Loves_Physics
@Kathy_Loves_Physics 5 лет назад
That is funny I love the movie for the reason you dislike it. It is a Christmas movie about being a kid: lusting after toys, dealing with bullies, getting in trouble for swearing, bad presents, getting the present of your dreams even if it does knock your eye out, being scared of mall Santa. No learning that the true spirit of Christmas is giving. No freaking grinch.
@kittymarie397
@kittymarie397 5 лет назад
the house it was filmed in is now a museum in cleveland. They do year round tours. The thing is they had filmed the outside in cleveland, the inside was done in a studio in canada. They remodeled the house on the inside and bought the property next store as a gift shop that is absolutely wild to go to in the summer.
@donotdothistome
@donotdothistome 5 лет назад
It's really strange the things we attach nostalgia to, I've never seen this movie (being from the UK and all) so I lucked out in forming nostalgia for The Muppet's Christmas Carol instead.
@clsisman
@clsisman 5 лет назад
The best Christmas movie
@pious83
@pious83 5 лет назад
+Gangoo That's Die Hard...
@beckyginger3432
@beckyginger3432 5 лет назад
I did glad I'm not the only brit who hasn't heard of this at all! I suppose we can be slightly more objective because we have no nostalgia for it
@gwendolynstata3775
@gwendolynstata3775 5 лет назад
@@pious83 Not for kids who's parents think Die Hard is to violent for them.
@pious83
@pious83 5 лет назад
+Gwendolyn Stata No one specified a _kids_ Christmas film.
@DavidMajors
@DavidMajors 5 лет назад
Did the tube collective all get together and decide to pour various foodstuffs all over yourselves, going into 2019?
@Bruno-ec8ft
@Bruno-ec8ft 5 лет назад
there was a twitter thread where they said he was next, so I was not too suprised.
@kidneyluke
@kidneyluke 5 лет назад
It gets clicks, man
@mrclueuin
@mrclueuin 5 лет назад
Hmm,hmm. Acting like there sooo cool. Avant-garde ain't new ya know. It's a century old artistic practice. Heck we we're doing avant-garde in the 70's ya know! 😜 Edit: At our host on this video is trying to make true point about commercialism and Christmas. So ya. But really I hope this trend dies out quickly or at least ends up in the hands of people like our host for this video who know what true art is. Subjectively.
@Dorian_sapiens
@Dorian_sapiens 5 лет назад
Who else did?
@thatunconsciousguy9306
@thatunconsciousguy9306 5 лет назад
Contrapoints, Hbomberguy, and philosophy tube thus far... I'm still waiting on creationist cat to do the bit
@mutantfreak48
@mutantfreak48 5 лет назад
00:34 He did it, the madman!
@randomcommenter7343
@randomcommenter7343 5 лет назад
chug chug chug
@mewmew4179
@mewmew4179 5 лет назад
finally. the ritual has been crafted
@poego6045
@poego6045 5 лет назад
Admittedly, it was also one of the first movies (along with Grinch) to show a more skeptical view of the consumerism surrounding Christmas, even if they might have done a worse job of it in Christmas Story (he does shoot his eye out for example, but in the end, he's still telling the story about the best gift he ever got, and accident or not, it's still the point of the film that this purchased gift is the positive focal point of this story.
@DeidraCastelle-gq5fv
@DeidraCastelle-gq5fv Год назад
I think this is an overly simplistic interpretation of why the BB gun was, 40 years later, still regarded as the best gift he ever got. The idea that “the thing I wanted most and got=the best gift ever” seems born from a rather unexamined viewing of the film. One of the major themes of the movie (I’d argue the most important) is how Ralphie felt completely invisible to adults unless he was receiving negative attention. A lesser version of the story would have had the mother convince/remind the father to buy the gun (or buy it herself) but the fact that it’s the father who clandestinely buys, wraps and hides the gift, is what gives the film its emotional weight. This was a post WW2 era when, as the films tagline alludes to, “men were men” and didn’t do such things like show emotion or consider the feelings of their children to any large extent. The fact that the old man heard Ralphie and, beyond understanding what he wanted materially, understood and appreciated what he needed emotionally, is why it is so effective. The BB gun wasn’t the best gift ever because he really wanted it and got it. It was the best gift ever because of what it represented, that his father understood, loved and appreciated him when it felt like the entire world didn’t know he existed.
@k9ml
@k9ml 5 лет назад
A Christmas Story was a compilation of Jean Shepard short stories some of which were featured in Playboy magazine over many years. Jean Shepard was also the inspiration for the song "A boy named Sue." He was a Ham Radio operator and a gadget freak. I got to know his work because he wrote stories for ham radio magazines and was a broadcaster for WOR radio in the 1950's and 60's. He was a tech nerd before people were called that.
@cuentadeyoutube5903
@cuentadeyoutube5903 5 лет назад
To me, this was what christmas was about: getting shit. I remember meeting with friends and writing a list of toys I wanted, most of which I had seen in advertisement. Most of the times I didn't get what I had "ordered", but I did get plenty of toys. And that's what I remember, not the actual toys but the expectation, waiting near the christmas tree for the toys to materialize. I never understood the rest of the christmas lore.
@dmitryboardman9762
@dmitryboardman9762 3 года назад
This is my favorite Christmas film because I see it as a frank yet affectionate examination of childhood affairs and past memories. The things Ralphie holds as greatly important look different to an adult, but the film enjoys that rather than condemning it. There's comedy in the fact that nostalgia comes from a lot of things that could be considered crappy experiences, but the film doesn't become cynical either. It's always felt very emotionally real to me, feeling very fond in its tone without cloying uber-sweet BS. It finds fondness in the bad parts as well.
@papayacatproductions
@papayacatproductions 5 лет назад
Okay, man, come on. You say that this movie's place in American Christmas tradition is new and a little arbitrary (from the nostalgic, celebratory perspective), but that's American Christmas to its core. The image of Santa, the strings of lights, the season starting on Black Friday, the family members booking flights to others states for a couple days, the songs, the movies, these are all very recent aspects and symbols of this holiday. It's all brand new, and yet it's all cherished as important by the culture. This movie isn't some young exception, it's a perfectly suited example and metaphor for how this country's culture works: a pile of arbitrary touchstones on a bed of vaguely celtic solstice totems. You can criticize and deconstruct all you want, but A Christmas Story shouldn't be your target any more than Bing Crosby singing Mele Kalikimaka, oversized manger scenes, or the Rankin & Bass Rudolph you mentioned. It's all tacky, it's all skin-deep, and it's all equally perfect for this holiday. And besides, the film itself has more of a message than you allow in this video. The traditional dinner the family so wanted is ruined by badly behaved dogs from the poor family next door, so our protagonist's family rolls with the punch and finds joy and togetherness in an unlikely place. For the kid, it's about some toy, but for the adult retelling the tale, it's about the family being a loving, powerful unit. You don't need to love the movie--I'm honestly with you on being just okay with it--but it's disingenuous to characterize it as empty, and for its place in our dumb holiday celebration as misplaced or flimsy. It's an awkwardly thoughtful mess. Which is pretty effing perfect, if you ask me.
@Kannongunnz
@Kannongunnz 5 лет назад
"In the 80's- our childhoods were programmed for us" Holy shit......
@THEmuteKi
@THEmuteKi 5 лет назад
Your commentary is 100% on the mark -- but it may be why as *I* have grown older I've found myself actually downright enjoying the film. A rather sardonic look at childhood nostalgia punctuated from and adapted from a larger, less-focused (inasmuch as it is not all set in the month or so preceding Christmas) memoir and focused on the way that marketing was a constant even in that time. Something of a consumerist parable, in a way, in that just as much as it is focused on things, it is also focused on how frequently those things fail to achieve their purpose: the furnace backs up constantly, the leg lamp blows a fuse and later breaks, the decoder ring provides no insight into Little Orphan Annie's plight but instead just serves as a marketing ploy, the car tire goes flat and then Ralphie loses the nuts holding it in place, the soap becomes a means of severe punishment and not simply a cleaning tool, the B.B. gun that punctuates nearly all of Ralphie's thoughts winds up knocking him back badly with recoil and causing him to break his glasses, and even the Christmas turkey becomes the victim of the Bumpus hounds. All we are left with in the end are our loved ones and the unfortunate sequence in the Chinese restaurant. In a way I feel like this is the movie that we would get (except with more updated gizmos and gadgets) if they attempted to adapt Calvin and Hobbes to the big screen, right down to the way the sequence is a series of mostly-disconnected vignettes rather than a longer coherent narrative (much as how the day-to-day stories in a syndicated comic strip might have little to no connectivity). In a way it also shows why such an idea would be very, very bad.
@briankrebs7534
@briankrebs7534 5 лет назад
To add to that, I feel as if there is some sincere commentary that occurs about the value that objects really hold, and how the context of your receiving of that object shapes the way you view and value it. Many of the scenes revolve around a person or the family getting an object. The tree, the leg, the ring, the bunny suit, the BB gun, the whole present opening scene, there's so many opportunities to see people receiving gifts or buying things for people. And we see how the expectations of those objects are either met or fall short. But the film seems to make a concerted effort to display the many different relationships that one can have to an object that becomes a possession. We see the happiness and responsibilities of giving, the joy and debt of receiving. It uses neat stereotypes that we will all be familiar with to paint an accessable story of a family that has true love for one another. Not a perfect, or even desirable family! But we know their values and we see them showing love to one another, and isn't that really what Christmas is all about?
@AbMaSync
@AbMaSync 5 лет назад
@@briankrebs7534 A toast for not perfect or even desirable situations!
@mayonnnnnaise
@mayonnnnnaise 5 лет назад
This might be the best youtube comment I have ever read. I think you are dead-on with your comparison to Calvin and Hobbes.
@jamiekelley5856
@jamiekelley5856 5 лет назад
Oh, definitely. It shows the "dirtyness" of "things" and of their objectification. Imo, it does have a greater point and parable in that way, but it's told cynically through people who only briefly see through their objectifying lens - the narrator doesn't even escape this. Which is why I think it works, too. When it hit theaters, people were buying into feel-good nostalgia "whole-hog", and this only seems to do so superficially - that may be why audiences didn't take to it at the time. It's only after the start of that being overloaded and people coming off of that in the 90's that the idea was more palatable to general viewers. All that said, still a great video, and I love all the background knowledge on how things came to be (like the marathon).
@THEmuteKi
@THEmuteKi 5 лет назад
@@mayonnnnnaise it helps that the decoder ring has a direct analogy to the cereal beanie in Calvin and Hobbes. And also being a comic mostly about a kid written for adults.
@thevirtualjim
@thevirtualjim 5 лет назад
This is one of the rare times i think you are pretty off-base. or i should say i think you wanted to make a point and you are stretching things to fit. I have a very different experience with this movie. maybe it was a difference of exposure/timing of seeing it the 1st time. I discovered the movie while channel-surfing in late 1988 when i was in 11th grade and taking a break from homework. From the moment I saw it (switched it on right at the beginning of the flagpole scene), I loved it - funny, cute, interesting, a peek into someone's childhood memories. I tend to like 'slice of life' stories of the past like this. Back then I was only able to see it once a year and it became my favorite x-mas movie. It was a doorway into me learning about an amazing story-teller. Jean Shepard. I tracked down the book the movie was based off of and found it was more a collection of short stories from Jean's childhood - some of which were used to build the movie with. I learned that he used to have radio shows and such and was a major storyteller of 'americana' - probably exaggerated stories(he never said) but very funny and great to listen to/read. This movie was the most successful movie adaptation attempt of his work. There were about 5 or so movies made about his stories, but only one other was any good and it doesn't hold a candle to this movie. I can understand if its not your genera - I happen to like period pieces and slice of life stuff - this, wonder years (which this movie definitely gave inspiration to), mad men, etc. However i think your complaint is better directed towards the monitization of art/performance/entertainment than it is about this movie.
@dannykazari
@dannykazari 5 лет назад
I don't think the film not having a particular message is necessarily a point against it. The film is just *A* Christmas Story, not *The* Christmas Story.
@BadLactose
@BadLactose 5 лет назад
When I was eight, I fell in love with this film when I caught it randomly on television one Christmas Eve. It quickly became something I sought out every year. There was something enthralling about it that took me a while to put my finger on. I realized, years later, that it was the delightfully mean streak that runs through the movie. As a little kid, every time I watched and re-watched it, I was petrified by so many scenes -- the sneering mall elves, the bullying scenes, the tantrum-throwing father, etc. But unlike watching a horror movie, I found all these creepy threats incredibly relatable as a kid. I assumed it was a kid's movie that somehow 'got' what it was like to be me, unlike Saturday morning cartoons or Disney movies that were always just a bit too unrelentingly happy and optimistic .
@fossilfighters101
@fossilfighters101 2 года назад
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@JCIce007
@JCIce007 5 лет назад
That *the dad* bought him the BB Gun on his own was the emotional payoff of the movie.
@montywolfe8900
@montywolfe8900 5 лет назад
A: You're wrong. This film is subtle genius. And B: that's really all I have to say about that.
@FlesHBoX
@FlesHBoX 5 лет назад
Holy crap, I legit did not realize it was made in the 80s... I thought it was late 60s or early 70s up until the moment you mentioned the year it was made. Though, as someone who isn't really a big Christmas person, and someone whose outlook on this film is mainly "oh, uh, yeah, it's a movie alright!", I suppose I've never had much inclination to look into it. I guess as a child I just assumed it was an old movie, and the rest of my life moved on with that as my reference point.
@Hakajin
@Hakajin 5 лет назад
I dunno, I feel like you're taking the movie too much at face value. Like, I've always felt that that line about "electric joy" was kind of tongue in cheek. The narrator is acknowledging the consumerism through gentle sarcasm, but also expressing the feeling of buying into it as a kid. I've always been nostalgic about this movie. I'm 30, but I never had any trouble relating to it. For example, It always seemed to me that it wasn't really about the toy itself, it was about the anticipation and excitement of the toy. I don't remember a whole lot about the toys I got, but I definitely remember those excited feelings. I'm glad I got to experience that. I think, rather than a moral, it just gives a picture of what it's like to be a kid. Like, there's a lot of focus on events that would seem insignificant to an adult that are really monumental to Ralphie - the Scutt Farkus affair, Flick getting his tongue stuck to the flagpole... Because school and the other kids around you really are such a focus at that age. I also like how it portrays how little power you have as a kid. The world can be unpleasant and unfair, and it sucks, but there's not really much you can do about it. And yeah, there's also a lot about the experience of being part of a family, the good times, and also the dysfunction, how you can look back on both aspects fondly. I think what I like best about this movie is that it takes kids seriously, puts importance on their feelings and thoughts and experiences. The things kids are concerned about may seem silly to adults, but kids' interior lives are valid and shouldn't be discounted. Even if you what you care about changes, you still remember the things that were important to you back then. Who you were is a part of who you are. Now that I think about it... I feel like there's an implication here that a lot of things that are important to adults are kind of stupid, too, and that there's not as much difference between children and adults as most adults would perhaps like to believe. Case in point, all the drama over the leg lamp. I do agree that the movie supports consumerism in a way. On the other hand, yeah, I do think there's a certain kind of joy and nostalgia to be found there that's worth talking about. Of course, talking about it encourages it, and a lot of damage comes out of that consumerism. Does that mean we shouldn't acknowledge our positive emotional experience of it? Should we talk about the bad every time, at the expense of relating our naive enjoyment of it as children? ...I don't have answers, but I think they're good questions to ask. Maybe the best thing to do is enjoy the movie as it is, but be open to criticism.
@whitetigergurl12
@whitetigergurl12 5 лет назад
Hmm, sounds similar to how It's a Wonderful Life became a "tradition"
@cameronmarnoch5236
@cameronmarnoch5236 5 лет назад
It is, but for It's a Wonderful Life, that's how a brilliant, sad "Christmas" film about an attempted suicide and the little things in life got people who were willing to show it. People didn't want to see a sad, troubling film until it was free to air, then people watched it and realized the hope in not getting what you want. It's a much less cynical story, even if it is still cynical. Which in turn makes it into a perfect metaphor for itself as well.
@patrickrowan6001
@patrickrowan6001 5 лет назад
Except it's a wonderful life is perfect and I will hear no words to the contrary
@LukieLuke5
@LukieLuke5 5 лет назад
Patrick Rowan except it’s really boring and slow paced.
@marieandwillbodenbetheridg4892
@@LukieLuke5 ah yes, because we all know that a movie can't be good unless it's an hour long, with 45 minutes of that being taken up by explosions and transformers.
@Argonnosi
@Argonnosi 5 лет назад
@@patrickrowan6001 It's really not very good, and it's the tale of how a man has been trapped in this small town that he's wanted to escape his entire life, and not even the sweet release of death can give him solace.
@dawsonrpowell
@dawsonrpowell 5 лет назад
I have much appreciation for Dan's analysis and takes on media, but I think it was a mistake for him to frame this video focused on a single film and not the wider context of manufactured nostalgia. So a movie that wasn't a hit in theatres became more popular when a wider audience was exposed to it. It's one thing to say you don't like a movie and its played to death on cable, but it's rather insulting to say it's objectively bad, is only okay if you don't really pay attention to it, and people really only like it because they're falling for a corporate nostalgia trap. While the reasons behind its current level of popularity can invite scrutiny, and media dependence on nostalgia is growing ever more shameless, this scrutiny can be applied to every "Classic" movie. It's hard to see any difference with the current popularity of any other "Classic" from before we were born or "Sleeper Hit" we may have missed out on in theatres. We watch those movies because we are told they are good, and then make our own decisions about their quality. Despite being born years after the original Star Wars films were released, I saw them on VHS in the early nineties because my parents had bought them. I know most other millennial Star Wars lovers have a similar experience. However, there are numerous quality films from the past that haven't gotten that same level of continued exposure since they weren't popular in their time. The filter of time can rob us of experiences not suited for their time but may be suited for ours. Increased exposure for bygone media is something I think we should all be for, as we can determine for ourselves what suits our tastes. Additionally, there are any number of reasons a movie isn't popular in theatres, particularly seasonal movies like A Christmas Story. Purely "Christmas" movies released today go straight to the Hallmark Channel, DVD, or Netflix, making them TV movies, which is essentially what "A Christmas Story" has become.There may have been popular "Christmas" movies in theatres, but they were movies with that happen to set around Christmas time. No one describes Home Alone or Love Actually as "Christmas" movies. Dan has covered a number of contentious issues, but this is the first video of his that I've seen that seems both pandering to the "I too cool to like this popular thing" crowd and insulting to the people who do.
@pr0ntab
@pr0ntab 5 лет назад
Home Alone and Love Actually are both Christmas movies, moreso than Die Hard.
@clsisman
@clsisman 5 лет назад
Have you seen Lindsay Ellis' video on this? It's called The Upside-down of Pre-nostalgia or something. Not specifically on Xmas but it sounds like you might enjoy it.
@chooseymomschoose
@chooseymomschoose 5 лет назад
Yeah, Dan overthought the hell out of this. He came so close and then veered off into jargon fantasy land. Yes, the movie is full of dog whistles to those who lived in the post-Depression Midwest. The materialism theme is bred of Depression-era deprivation and the movie deftly exposes the emptiness of it. Yes, the movie just ends, like most things in life. It doesn’t have the neat 3-act structure or Central Conflict that all screenwriting failures-turned-critics think is absolutely necessary, despite those elements’ theatrical artificiality. And I don’t know anyone who came to love the movie by watching it like a constantly distracted Millennial. His they-all-love-it-cuz-TV-noise theory is just a cute idea he concocted with no real evidence. The movie found a wider audience because of corporate maneuvering. So what. That corporate maneuvering did not create The Love.
@michaelmahoney5677
@michaelmahoney5677 5 лет назад
Ya know, I do love this movie. And the context you gave about Turner's business stunts really do convince me of your interpretation, but I always saw it as something else. You mentioned how this movie is a reflection of the childhood we remember, not what actually happened. I see strong evidence of that in the film. Several scenes are overacted/dramatized to the point of being absurd (i.e. Schwartz' mom screaming and beating him, the mall Santa, the furnace, etc.) These scenes are presented this way I believe to make it clear that Ralphie's memory is far from perfect, and nothing was quite the way he presents it in the movie. The best example of this is the Mall Santa, who's dreaded "HO HO HO" is haunting, to say the least. Children are scared to death of him and go down the slide crying. That is, until after Ralphie has his turn. As he and his family walk away, his father exclaiming that Santa "always knows!" what Ralphie wants, you can clearly hear and see the very same Mall Santa suddenly seeming quite friendly with a genuinely jolly "HO HO HO" as he sends a laughing child down the slide. Another example is when Ralphie's parents tell him to hurry upstairs the night before Christmas, wait for him to close his bedroom door, then say something like "alright, let's go" in a way" that a child watching the movie wouldn't think twice about. This obviously reveals the taboo truth that Santa isn't real, something that a child Ralphie would never have picked up on, and thus would not be present in his memory of this Christmas.These events were a glimpse of the reality that Ralphie misremembers throughout the film. Thus, I see A Christmas Story as an adult's glossy memory of a childhood Christmas that he found particularly important, with some reality thrown in to make the contrast between what Ralphie remembers and what actually happened more clear. Totally agree with you about the ending! It was unsatisfying, random, and quite racist! But it's what he remembered! I guess the writers couldn't think of a better ending?
@melissacooper4282
@melissacooper4282 5 лет назад
The part where the mom was screaming and beating her son because she was told that he said a curse word was not exaggerated in my household. My grandma actually screamed and beat my cousin one time when he said that word in front of her.
@aimeemariet
@aimeemariet 5 лет назад
The reason my mom made me watch A Christmas Story (and any of the other related movies, but most especially Ollie Hopnoodle's Haven of Bliss) is because Jean Shepherd himself was nostalgia for her (he had a show on WOR in New York in the 50s-late 70s) which was in turn nostalgia for my grandparents as it spoke about their later childhoods; which is how my mom got into listening those radio shows...because my grandfather did. So while my grandparents disliked the movie because it was not true to what they expected, it was true to my mother's perception of the times before she was born (she was 23 when A Christmas Story came out). Too. Much. Layered. Nostalgia. We just assumed everyone liked it and had that same associations because it was already marathoned around Christmas among people I knew thanks to taping it off TV, and that that's how it got popular...because there was a big Jean Shepherd resurgence in general in the 80s. Maybe that sidenote is just really specific to people who fit my demographics of being 40. After all, what you cling to in childhood is pretty specific and altered by as little as 2-3 years.
@archer1949
@archer1949 5 лет назад
It’s satire. It’s practically beating you over the head with its winking irony. I have to wonder about any adult who still takes it at face value.
@taureleafsilver
@taureleafsilver 5 лет назад
Just a note that the movie is based on a memoiresque novel "In God We Trust: All Others Pay Cash" which I recommend looking into, because there is something different about watching the stories unfold on screen vs pure narration. Even though the movie is very faithful in parts, with some narration being straight from the book. The decoder ring story in particular reads as much more sarcastic and in my opinion, much funnier.
@catherinefuller25
@catherinefuller25 5 лет назад
This movie is loved and hated piece for our family. My father as a child looked exactly like Ralphie and had always loved Jean Shepherd's story collections. We also loved "Ollie Hopnoodle's Haven of Bliss," based on more of his stories. Many shorts were combined together for both and allows you focus in and out, foundly remembering certain pieces. The turkey at the end was actually the Easter ham in the stories, which makes a bit more sense. Since we always go to my father's little brothers house for Christmas eve, the movie reminds us of their childhood tales, Christmas and non blending together to paint a picture of their childhood.
@dclark2529
@dclark2529 5 лет назад
Christmas time is turning me into a communist.
@c-5921
@c-5921 5 лет назад
yeeeees yeeees goooood
@aboxintheblack9530
@aboxintheblack9530 5 лет назад
D Clark Black Power
@stabinojablonski
@stabinojablonski 5 лет назад
Get well soon.
@keinname1896
@keinname1896 5 лет назад
Well, at least it has that going for it.
@kireclebnul
@kireclebnul 5 лет назад
Good! It's good to be a communist. I should know.
@loonachan
@loonachan 5 лет назад
Despite it's name, "A Christmas Story" is not actually about Christmas as a concept, it's not trying to sell us on the true meaning of Christmas or virtues of generosity, it's about our relationship to the holiday on a more individual level. While I do think the hyper-commercialism ARE BAD, it's also, you know... realistic. It doesn't have a neatly-wrapped message or theme it pushes because real life doesn't really work like that, you probably have many stories in your life that could be funny, interesting, heartwarming, heartbreaking, etc, but none of them really have any overarching point or lesson in them. Whether we see commercialism as good or not, if you grew up relatively middle class, the stuff that you got is what you remember about it more than anything. Whether it's "good" or not, Ralphie remembers this Christmas because of the present he got, not because the present ended up being all that fun (on the contrary, he got injured because of it), but because of the amount of work and all the extreme feelings he got in the quest to get it, as well as some of the less connected vignettes that he remembers because that was the year he got that stupid BB gun. If there is a message or overarching theme to be taken from that, it's that in our quest for things we think we want we get experiences and moments that we might actually need. After all, Ralphie is still clutching that BB gun that fucked him up just two scenes ago, not because of what it is, but because of the experiences attached to it. That being said, I generally find the movie unwatchable now due to so many scenes just feeling cringey or shmaltzy or just overplayed. But I don't think its legacy should be "its about commercialism and commercialism ARE BAD."
@PanEtRosa
@PanEtRosa 5 лет назад
Are you not aware of the book "A Christmas Story" is based on? "In God We Trust: All Others Pay Cash" is a satirical punch at commercialization. Everything in the movie is a little grotesque and absurd to parody the manipulation of nostalgia and childish excitement.
@TapDat52K
@TapDat52K 5 лет назад
Watching the opening of this video, was like watching the opening dialogue of a french art house film dubbed over. Spiked Egg Nog / 10
@PeterGuidikov
@PeterGuidikov 5 лет назад
Hey Dan, I just wanted to thank you for the awesome content you provided for this channel (and others!) this year. It seems that you don’t see it as a great year in some regards, but just know that many of us also think it was your best content-wise. Keep it up, and here’s to next year being even better for you. Cheers!
@jeffreymbraun
@jeffreymbraun 3 года назад
I saw this in the theater with my family when I was middle school age, and we all loved it, but I do recall the theater being almost empty too. I've always been a Jean Shepherd fan (even before the movie came out), so I/we were already in for an experience we would strongly desire and subsequently love; narrated by the author whom we knew from radio and television. I grew up in the Midwest and perhaps it also has a cultural resonance, such as the whole "fudge" business, even if it was the Midwest of the 1980s. The whole business of it being played on an endless loop kind of missed me (I rarely had cable tv, even when I moved to the pacific northwest in my 20s for work), and in fact I always felt like it is/was this unknown gem others known only by a few of us -- when in fact it has now become ubiquitous with the Christmas scene.
@nerveagent1905
@nerveagent1905 5 лет назад
I never actually watched the movie. My dad is named Ralph, and my tia, who lived with my folks at the time, would always turn it on to make him upset. I remember his reaction more than the film.
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 5 лет назад
I'd always thought A Christmas Story was weird and a bit overrated. Like most things analyzing why that is provides more catharsis* than I could have expected. So thanks for this Christmas gift, Dan. *Wait, is it catharsis? Maybe I should analyze the feelings I have towards thorough analysis...
@dawsonrpowell
@dawsonrpowell 5 лет назад
This may sound patronizing or insulting, but I'm serious because I continually look at it within myself. It might be confirmation bias. Confirmation bias is a concept that has really gotten weaponized as an attack against those with differing opinions, but recognizing it in yourself can bring peace to the idea that people can have different opinions without being "wrong." It's particularly acute for me when something I detest is popular (i.e, The Force Awakens), and less so for when something I do like isn't (The Prequel Trilogy). Other people can have it reversed or equal amounts in each direction, but I'd imagine you probably don't have as strong an opinion about this film as I do for Star Wars. Having someone "explain" why you are right provides a pleasurable psychological stimulus, and has become the bread and butter of a number of media outlets and RU-vid channels. I hope it isn't confirmation bias and is a love of thorough analysis. One method I've taken to determine this is to seek out content that analyzes the contrary opinion to one I hold and talk to friends who see things differently. I saw that other people got a different type of itch from Star Wars that The Force Awakens scratched. This also helps fight against confirmation bias' best friend, selection bias, in which you only seek out content reaffirming your opinion. This is exacerbated by the RU-vid "algorithm." Through analysis of both pro and con, you can determine whether or not you just disagree with a contrary opinion, or if that opinion is based on faulty or incomplete reasoning. This seems simple, but it's easy to fall down the rabbit hole. Also I'm not only directing this towards you, but to anyone who happens to read your comment.
@bossHogOG
@bossHogOG 5 лет назад
Timothy McLean it’s because you’re stupid
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 5 лет назад
Dawson Powell, your comment is an incarnation of everything that could be right with RU-vid. Boss Hog, yours is an incarnation of everything that _is_ wrong with it.
@bossHogOG
@bossHogOG 5 лет назад
Timothy McLean cheers
@nicholastosoni707
@nicholastosoni707 4 года назад
Um........Sounds about right.
@euansmith3699
@euansmith3699 5 лет назад
That was a wonderfully heart-warming seasonal video. Thank you for another year of insightful pondering.
@CountJackNoire
@CountJackNoire 5 лет назад
Thank you for this. I don't have much to say aside from that I appreciate & enjoy your videos far more than I ever enjoyed this film.
@Caitlin_TheGreat
@Caitlin_TheGreat 5 лет назад
Even before the internet, I was never really one to be subjected to "traditions" via television. Holiday programming and such never got much traction from me because first I'm an introvert who has never had any problem retreating from family time to do my own thing and second I'd turn to video games or books (or toys, before high school) rather than be bored to tears by some not-so-great holiday movie. I might even just go outside, even if It's freezing, to escape some commercialized iteration of a holiday or the feeling of being caged into a situation. Even the relatively good movies I can only watch once every couple years. As for Christmas Story, I've only ever seen pieces of a few scenes and the feel of it always turned me off from it -- there's something just unpleasant about it and so I've never had an intention of fully watching the thing.
@Keldroc
@Keldroc 5 лет назад
While I find it hard to disagree with the analysis of the film's rise as a phenomenon and a (frankly forced) Christmas tradition, I can't agree that it's a bad movie or lacking in appeal to a child. I first saw it when I was 9 (Ralphie's age in the movie) on cable in the mid-'80s and immediately recognized it as, for lack of a better word, "true." Not in the sense that it was a real story that happened or that it reflected a real time and place, as it clearly doesn't. It's totemic and undeniably self-aware, much the same way Back to the Future's 1955 is essentially a cartoon distillation of what an adult white man in his middle age pictured his childhood era as. A movie that doesn't know it's a heightened depiction of an effectively fictional time wouldn't mix eras as much as it does (leading to the endless arguments over which exact year it takes place in...spoiler: it doesn't, it's a collage of a diorama of an imagined time), nor would it play with the Yosemite Sam-style nonsense swearing as directly as it does. The gibberish profanity isn't just there to guarantee a PG rating, it's there to draw attention to the cartoonish depictions of events, right down to the masterful build to and delivery of the Old Man's "Natafinga!" parting shot after the breaking of the lamp. But most of that is stuff I've recognized from watching it yearly growing up and through adulthood. The things that made it click for me when I was 9 were maybe not things I was consciously aware of, but they're things that a mediocre or poorly crafted film could not accomplish, in my opinion. It's one of the few films, and arguably the ONLY Christmas film, that really captures the powerlessness of being a child in an adult-controlled world, at the time of year when one's imagined happiness (dictated, as you say in the video, by material things rather than spiritual or intellectual ideals) is entirely at the mercy of adults, and Ralphie's efforts to subvert that situation drives much of the plot whenever it can. I would also argue that this ties in with the most effective swerve in the narrative, which is that Ralphie spends the whole movie appealing to the authority figures he finds the most sympathetic, only to receive his most coveted gift from the Old Man, who is previously depicted as being almost completely uninvolved in Ralphie's day-to-day life and interests. When did Ralphie's father find out that's what Ralphie wanted? When did he get it and where did he hide it from his wife? Can you even picture this heretofore almost completely self-involved character doing that? And yet he does, and he even knows he's subverting his wife's wishes, as he stashes it away from the center of the gift pile to spring it as a surprise after his son thinks he's not getting what he wanted. It's a charming moment, Darren McGavin plays it flawlessly, and best of all the film immediately turns it around and has Ralphie fall victim to the exact "BB gun block" that's been thrown at him the whole movie, only to find a way to, for the first time in the film, successfully game the system he is otherwise powerless within and get away with it ("I had pulled it off!"). So yeah, I think you're selling the film a bit short, even though its rise to required Christmas marathon viewing in the late '90s made it ubiquitous enough for people who didn't establish a connection with it to find it more annoying than anything else. But for me, not only did I grow up watching it purely because I liked it, and without commercials due to it being on pay cable (to this day the commercial breaks are jarring to me), but I distinctly recall being in college in the mid-'90s and having trouble finding anyone who even knew what the movie was, let alone was a fan. It's a manufactured tradition, but so are many of the traditional Christmas movies. You point out Rudolph, but It's A Wonderful Life had a very similar journey to Christmas immortality, right down to being free to air. Frankly I'll watch A Christmas Story over that any day of the year. And on one particular day especially.
@merchantfan
@merchantfan 5 лет назад
Yeah, there are SO many bad Christmas movies out there that being this harsh about A Christmas Story is a bit odd. It's funny and a little snarkier and darker than your average Christmas movie with its jokes about "electric sex", physical discipline of children (which these days would be considered abuse) and swearing. I agree about the Chinese restaurant scene being outdated and racist, but other than that this is uncharacteristically one-sided and disappointing for a guy who found good things to say about 50 Shades of Grey.
@JennWanderer
@JennWanderer 5 лет назад
I have to admit that Home Alone is my ultimate Christmas movie, it doesn't feel like Christmas until I watch it and it's been that way for like 25 years.
@matthewjoy475
@matthewjoy475 5 лет назад
It's amazing how much of this piece directly references my experiences with this movie growing up. An annual family party on Christmas eve where this movie was put on in the background, and never watched completely but in snippets in-between everything else. I don't think I watched it beginning to end until late high school and was pretty underwhelmed, but it's so ingrained into my childhood that the comment about it becoming it's own object of nostalgia really hit home and I can't help but smile when I think of the movie because of those memories.
@thegeekclub8810
@thegeekclub8810 5 лет назад
Look, mate, you can diss A Christmas Story all you want, but you do NOT talk shit about the Rankin/Bass Rudolph that is my CHILDHOOD. In all seriousness, will I love that movie dearly, it's not good. The animation is outdated as hell and for all the positivity it tries to bring, ultimately the message boils down to "socially marginalized groups (notably disabled people are worth being accepted if they can prove themselves commercially valuable".
@thomashartwell4335
@thomashartwell4335 5 лет назад
See, I'll actually stand by the special--as an hour-long piece it's remarkably well crafted and well-scripted, and the only real drawbacks in craft are the limitations in animation (even by Rankin-Bass's own standards Rudolph is very clearly an early effort, with the mid-70s specials providing an overall smoother and more consistent level of animation). It also from a moral perspective neatly skates the issue of the song (the idea you're only valuable if you can be of use) by placing the story beat of everyone realizing "man we were dicks to Rudolph" *before* the revelation of his nose being of value. The special is ultimately about the idea that everyone in life has value and worth, regardless of how much of a 'misfit' they might be. It's easy to dunk on Rankin-Bass, and a good number of their specials are downright garbage (lookin' atchu, Frosty), but they often turned out incredibly bizarre stories that made the holiday season weird in a very wonderful way. I'll stand by the best of them until I die.
@miraprime474
@miraprime474 5 лет назад
There's a secret arms race among left tube, to create the best gifs. Dan is excellent at this.
@lotsofdifferentstuffiguess9350
I really like how much more frequently you're posting these days. Keep it up man!
@historicalFeminist
@historicalFeminist 3 года назад
My dad was born in the sixties, and in college by 1980, and he's always loved this movie. Your musing on nostalgia really hit home here. My sister and I *hated* that he kept the 24 hour marathon on, and memorized the film basically at gunpoint. We're definitely less angry about it now that we're grown up, even buying him gag gifts based on it when we spot them while holiday shopping. (Last year I found A Christmas Story themed pink bunny pajamas at target). Knowing that he was in his twenties when this came out is crazy to me, honestly.
@thehopeofeden597
@thehopeofeden597 5 лет назад
Well now I want to watch Movie Bob's Really That Good on this movie... And Merry Christmas Everyone!
@brettbrandom4524
@brettbrandom4524 5 лет назад
Dan is of course entitled to his opinion, but I think A Christmas Story is a pretty decent movie in spite of the network shenanigans surrounding it, a case Bob makes pretty well imo.
@patrickrowan6001
@patrickrowan6001 5 лет назад
I love it when respectable RU-vidrs get their boxing gloves on. Bob also has a video hating on mission impossible, few months later Patrick h Willems released his Why It's Great video praising the series
@MrEwanRoy
@MrEwanRoy 5 лет назад
Bob's video is really good (pun unintended) and touches on pretty much all of the things Dan brought up.
@donnylurch4207
@donnylurch4207 5 лет назад
@@patrickrowan6001 Movie Bob is a respectable youtuber? I enjoyed his old content well enough, but I took him less seriously after I heard about the "my own personal Vietnam" line and his apparent SJW-ness. Of course, I got a lot of that info from Mr. Metokur, so maybe Mr. Bob deserves a revisit through less trollish eyes.
@mightyNosewings
@mightyNosewings 5 лет назад
@@donnylurch4207 If you dislike "SJW"s, you might be on the wrong channel here.
@morganrobinson8042
@morganrobinson8042 5 лет назад
Personally, If I had to attach any point to the movie at all, it would be that it's lack of direction and distinct moral are more genuine and true to our experience then events with those elements clearly defined. Life happens. Some of it's good, some of it's funny some of it is horrible or disappointing. Most of it is unexpected. Sometimes the most that can be said is that it happened. The nostalgia that is there is, as most passable nostalgia is, a bit tired and wrly knowing. It says things with great irony that appeals to people above 25 as they age and start to get the regrets and missed opportunities. The audience misses even the lousy parts of childhood, but doesn't forget that we we kind of idiotic little fucks. You laugh at yourself. You talked about the queer recursion in the nostalgia mostly being due to the quirk of this movie being free, but that's the point. It is utterly ridiculous that you miss this stuff from when you were a child. Most of it sucked, the parts that didn't were either something hard-won or sold at a premium, and none of it would probably hold up. But you still miss it. And you still try and drag that feeling forward because it feels wonderful. And maybe it can be passed on. And that is the story of Christmas.
@fossilfighters101
@fossilfighters101 2 года назад
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@son0of0the0beast
@son0of0the0beast 5 лет назад
I didn't have cable for most of my childhood so I didn't get to watch it on tv. We had it on DVD and it's still my favorite holiday movie. Ralph's perspective is probably the most accurate depiction of how it felt to be a kid I've seen on film
@MattMcIrvin
@MattMcIrvin 3 года назад
I have a strange relationship to this movie, because I missed it on release and only saw the entire thing all the way through quite recently, but most of the material in it was familiar to me anyway--it's assembled out of various Jean Shepherd stories, and the main one that the movie is based on ("you'll shoot your eye out, kid!") had been read to us by my seventh-grade English teacher, and some other bits (the Nehi lamp) I'd already seen dramatized in earlier adaptations on PBS's "American Playhouse". All this before the movie actually came out. So it was this movie that I hadn't actually seen (at least aside from bits and pieces), but I felt like I'd seen it anyway. I always found those stories funny if not particularly profound. Didn't particularly think of them as nostalgic, though--what I brought to them was a rueful appreciation of how much childhood can suck, and kind of figured they were about that. Maybe it's framing them as a kind of nostalgic reminiscence that makes them worse.
@mediaikonz
@mediaikonz 5 лет назад
Nobody tell Dan that now Die Hard is considered a Xmas classic. I mean if you're talking about nostalgic ridiculousness.
@aimeemariet
@aimeemariet 5 лет назад
What do you mean "now"? I have always considered Die Hard and Gremlins to be Christmas classics. Because nothing was funnier to 10 year old me than telling people Die Hard was a great Christmas movie.
@Dipstickdude09
@Dipstickdude09 Год назад
Man, I love your channel, dude
@grievegirl1
@grievegirl1 5 лет назад
2018 has sucked pretty fucking hard but your videos are definitely a bright spot and I’m really grateful for them. I really recognize and appreciate how much you put into them so thank you thank you and thank you Dan, I hope you have a great Christmas :) and I hope 2019 will suck less
@peterboren14
@peterboren14 5 лет назад
I appreciate the video but find it entirely focused on a modern perspective on the material. Doing a little research you can discover that the movie was based on the writings of Jean Shepard who was a satirist that wrote during the sixties and seventies. His stories used nostalgia to make dark commentary on the brutal and bleak nature of life in the fifties and childhood in general. If you approach A Christmas Story from the perspective of the subversive authorial intent of the writer you may find that your outrage over the commercialization of the era was actually shared by the author as well. Also, the point of the movie was about the conflict of personal expectation versus public opinion, something all generations struggle with.
@MarkusCorvenus
@MarkusCorvenus 5 лет назад
Oh this gonna be good
@CrisWhetstone
@CrisWhetstone 2 года назад
This is the one film my whole family could enjoy, together. We didn't see it together until it ended up on cable or VHS. When we did, we all found stuff to laugh at and relate to. Having Turner do the 24 hours thing was a big bonus to us. And of course, coincided with some developing nostalgia for my brother and I. The older I got, and the more cynical about Christmas I became, I realized the film centered on the nostalgia for Christmas and how much the modern to me at the time Christmas was about recreating that kind of Christmas for my parents. Especially my dad. The sort of new consumerism that was growing and starting to swallow our culture in time of the film really found a huge weapon in Christmas. Its made me less fond of the film but I can't escape the way our family really enjoyed it, together. I still find a lot of it quite funny. I also think in its time it was unique in its portrayal of childhood being full of fears and the mundane. This would later become a very commonly mined story base. Its not good enough for me to keep enjoying it but it had a strong place in my life. It also provided me a lens with which to look back on Christmas in our culture and how it became this whole monster of spending and expectations. I largely hide from all of that now.
@elizabeths123
@elizabeths123 5 лет назад
Wow, what timing! Literally just finished watching this movie with my family, opened RU-vid, and here this video was! Merry Christmas, everyone
@allyssaswain2394
@allyssaswain2394 5 лет назад
I think this is a really lackluster video for you, Dan. You don't really say much about A Christmas Story or why it's bad. I don't particularly like A Christmas Story either ,but I still think it should get more analysis than that. Your premises seems to be: A. The movie has brands in it and is nostalgic. B. People only like it because it's presented as a holiday classic and over exposed. Those are explanations of why people would like the film if it really is bad, but those things, in and of themselves, don't make the movie bad. It’s on you to prove that. You don’t really bring up any examples of bad storytelling in the film, or explain why you found it obnoxious. I have hard time understanding what you even want from it as a period piece. There are brands and material things, but that’s not all there is. There are also practices and attitudes separate from tangible things that existed at the time and timeless incidents as well. Taking on a stupid dare from your friends, Watching your mom get your little sibling to eat, getting in trouble for swearing, going to visit Santa at the mall, et. These are experiences that don’t revolve around material things, and that people from many generations can relate to. I don’t think A Christmas Story ever presented itself as either a kids movie or as an objective truth of the past. It’s just supposed to be this guy recounting his, possibly a little bit exaggerated and incorrectly remembered, childhood memories.
@RapCritic
@RapCritic 5 лет назад
THANK. YOU. Always thought this movie was overrated.
@musingthemedia1535
@musingthemedia1535 5 лет назад
Love the depth of your research. I've never seen this film but, like Fifty Shades Freed, I now feel informed about it and yet equally have no desire to subject myself to it. Merry Christmas :)
@annabunovsky5628
@annabunovsky5628 5 лет назад
I thought that rose-colored lens was the point. Even as a kid, I took it to mean that the narrator was reflecting on his childhood based on the emotions he felt as a kid at the time. As for the structure, I figured that was just because the film was supposed to be a little slice of life story. And the ending isn't just the kids clutching their toys in their sleep, it's the parents watching the snow falling and remarking on its beauty. I think that's what it's meant to be about- appreciating the little moments in life, because even though they're fleeting and may not seem significant in the long term, they make for sweet moments of togetherness that strengthen bonds and play quiet roles in shaping who we were, who we are now, and who we might become. But of course, it's fine that your interpretation is different from mine, and I still greatly enjoy your work :)
@merchantfan
@merchantfan 5 лет назад
Yeah, the structure with the narrator is a lot like having an older family member tell you funny family stories from the past. My parents like the movie and they weren't alive then and otherwise don't really care about the 40's- it's more than just nostalgia.
@Caveboy0
@Caveboy0 5 лет назад
Im kind of left a big perplexed here. I love the Christmas season and I still genuinely find a Christmas story funny in its vignette moments. I understand that things aren’t love or that things aren’t important but holidays are associated with good memories and good feelings. I respect the videos message I just don’t relate
@katarinaswaringen6291
@katarinaswaringen6291 5 лет назад
Finally a perfect argument for why I dislike this movie! My family is one of those that plays the 24 hour marathon all day, listening to it as background noise for brunch and present opening. Eventually we all sit down and consciously watch the movie all the way through. I also have to hear wayyy too much laughter during the Chinese restaurant scene...
@maxjolley339
@maxjolley339 5 лет назад
Other than pointing out the horribly racist finale, there's not actually much criticism of the content of the movie itself in this film. He doesn't really argue why it's a bad film, rather he starts with the premise that it's a mediocre film and works from there. I'm not sure I understand what you mean by saying it's a "perfect argument for why you dislike this movie".
@fabianavalentino6304
@fabianavalentino6304 5 лет назад
Being here early makes me so excited! Love you Dan!
@gpoop23
@gpoop23 2 года назад
This video is making me feel so validated. I never liked A Christmas Story or Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer but everyone else seemed to so I assumed I just didn't "get" them because they were made for a different generation than mine. Hearing a legit film critic (who happens to be older than me) talk about why they don't work is giving me so many thing to bring up and make my family hate me even more the next time I'm home for Christmas.
@tyblazitar
@tyblazitar 5 лет назад
As a European it's almost refreshing to hear about an American movie that's apparently such a big deal in NA, but that I've never heard of, just as a reminder that even in a culture increasingly homogenized by American cultural imperialism, there's at least some garbage that doesn't get pushed down our throats. Happy holidays and thanks for an interesting video!
@eruyommo
@eruyommo 5 лет назад
Yeah. It's refreshing to know that we still aren't a pure American colony. Specially here in Latin America, aka: their backyard.
@Dorian_sapiens
@Dorian_sapiens 5 лет назад
So this is what they meant when they said there was a War on Christmas.
@dabwiso784
@dabwiso784 5 лет назад
Yeah, in Africa I had not heard of this movie until around 2 years ago. I had seen parts parodied in cartoons and TV shows though
@henryglennon3864
@henryglennon3864 5 лет назад
What you really want to watch is "Santa Claus and the Ice Cream Bunny". That's the real American cinematic Christmas gem that we've been hiding from the rest of the world.
@BTheBlindRef
@BTheBlindRef 5 лет назад
What is "cultural imperialism" exactly? Is someone forcing you to adopt American culture at gun point? If people like the culture and choose to adopt it, that isn't imperialism. That's a free exchange of ideas. The US has plenty of traditions imported from Europe. Is that "cultural counter insurgency" or something? I fail to see how the US is forcing any culture down European throats unless you choose to engage in it.
@WhelmedButReady
@WhelmedButReady 5 лет назад
It cool learning how the phenomena of A Christmas Story started. And all this being said I'm still anxiously waiting for the 24 hour marathon to being in a couple hours. I may be in my 20s but dammit it's a family tradition
@carliecasas8533
@carliecasas8533 5 лет назад
Never really thought about it, but you're absolutely right. This movie is so ingrained in my nostalgia, because i saw it so freakin much as a kid. And it's kind of funny how much it's been milked for what it's worth within the last few years with all of the merchandise as well as the musical tie in. Heck - I even got my parents the leg lamp for their Christmas gift. But I think a big nostalgia pull for me is that some of the exterior shots along with the real place it's fictional setting is based on is down the street from where I grew up.
@ceres090
@ceres090 5 лет назад
Thank you for making this
@AdrianArmbruster
@AdrianArmbruster 5 лет назад
You know it's satire right? Like the author was the most satirical satirist to have ever satired. The fact that it's depicting an over-saturated nostalgia bomb version of the 30s that never was is part of the joke. Also the fact that it bombed in theaters and gradually obtained cult status kind of cuts into the assertion that it only became popular when the original audience of children grew up to find it nostalgic. Not enough people saw it in theaters the first time for it to be nostalgically popular 10ish years after it came out.
@butchdeadlift10
@butchdeadlift10 5 лет назад
First thirty seconds and I want to steal your thesaurus and burn it.
@StephenGillie
@StephenGillie 5 лет назад
Thank you for not sinking into the unaware irony of putting advertising on this video.
@Rhomega
@Rhomega 5 лет назад
My dad enjoys the nostalgia this movie brings: a school where everyone is quiet, pays attention, and writes in cursive. You can beat up your bully and not get suspended. A kid can own a toy gun that looks like a gun. Not to mention the cars.
@MrJohndoakes
@MrJohndoakes 5 лет назад
"It's just a cruddy commercial." Lex Luthor voice: WRONG!! "A Christmas Story" is humorist Jean Shepherd's attempt to deal with his shitty teenage years - HE is Ralphie and his "Old Man" in real life ran off with his secretary and abandoned the Shepherd family in the early 1940s. He is trying to make his childhood look better by constructing a Great Christmas, a thing he really didn't do a lot on his WOR-AM midnight radio show in the 1950s-1970s - he mostly told it like it was, like mentioning the Depression-Era uncle who was perpetually unemployed and driving around in a paintless old car, or his first ill-fated writing gig doing squibs for a local department store one summer before he was drafted, etc. Shepherd's on-air persona was world-weary but fascinated by machines and electronics (he had been a ham radio operator since the late 1930s)....so what you get here is Jean with a little sugar to make him more palatable, though he had a huge cult audience from his WOR days. And no, I am not a fan of the film.
@cyncynshop
@cyncynshop 5 лет назад
I didn't know that about its creator, that's pretty cool. Though TV broadcast does frame it like a commercial the original author intent is different. While I do agree that the film has more than a commercial. Ultimately post- depression era does emphasize a lot on material wealth. The continual re-airing of this film has, like Dan said, fabricated a sense of nostalgia. I do like the film and its message, but when you think deeper into the way media is consumed and re-released it's interesting.
@MrJohndoakes
@MrJohndoakes 5 лет назад
@@cyncynshop Yes it acts like "it's always been there", but it was a dud film from the early 1980s that became a nostalgia magnet because of endless TV rebroadcasts, first on independent VHF or UHF stations, then on cable. "Ultimately post- depression era does emphasize a lot on material wealth." Even if you were doing well enough like the Shepherds, there were still things that were just slightly out of your budget around Christmastime. There was a giant rage for buying crap after WWII because there was a decade and a half of delayed consumer wants (especially new cars, because nobody was building any during WWII). That's why Jean/Ralphie focuses on storefronts and the stuff for on display in them - these are things he cannot buy.
@aimeemariet
@aimeemariet 5 лет назад
Grandpa? Is that you? Really though, this is the reason we watched A Christmas Story in our house to begin with. Grandpa and mom were huge fans of that radio show. Probably because Grandpa told similar stories about his crappy depression-era + childhood. He was also rather not a fan of the movie because it was too cute.
@MrJohndoakes
@MrJohndoakes 5 лет назад
@@aimeemariet It was a decade where roadkill was sometime dinner in rural areas, that's why he thought it was "too cute."
@aimeemariet
@aimeemariet 5 лет назад
@@MrJohndoakes Not too much rural about Hoboken, NJ, but agreed. From what my great grandmother used to tell me...and hoard afterwards, it was not a very fun time to raise children, let alone grow up.
@thatguy1628
@thatguy1628 5 лет назад
Bit of a weird fact regarding this movie it in itself created a yearly biffing war here in Cleveland just to stay in the house where it was filmed. I believe it goes up to 4,000 dollars usd. Just a strange fact
@MrJohndoakes
@MrJohndoakes 5 лет назад
The screenwriter/narrator of the film (Jean Shepherd) grew up in Buffalo, NY. I have no idea if his childhood house is still standing.
@allanolley4874
@allanolley4874 5 лет назад
Note parts of the movie were also filmed in St. Catharines, Ontario and Toronto, Ontario. As long as were are listing weird trivia...
@MrJohndoakes
@MrJohndoakes 5 лет назад
@@allanolley4874 Possibly because it could be made to look like Buffalo in the late 1930s. Possibly because they could also get tax credits.
@allanolley4874
@allanolley4874 5 лет назад
@@MrJohndoakes I seem to recall that the director Bob Clark, who also did Porky's, stating he liked making movies in Canada in terms of the ability to make the kinds of films he wanted (he was an American to be clear). I think part of it was the financing structure and expectations enabled by the tax cuts. A Christmas Story was sufficiently Canadian to win associated Canadian film industry awards so I would assume it got Canadian tax cuts...
@theunwelcome
@theunwelcome 5 лет назад
this is the best Christmas gift anyone has ever given me
@fanboycrossing
@fanboycrossing 5 лет назад
Dan gives us the gifts of gifs... great video as always!
@mookinbabysealfurmittens
@mookinbabysealfurmittens 5 лет назад
As ever, you have such incisive insight into things I hadn't even noticed, yet explain it such a clear, relaxed, straightforward way that I can definitely understand [and personally, subjectively, agree] without talking down to us, your audience, nor sinking into any of the [now standard ] YT cop-outs like lashing out at particular groups or "types" of people, getting irrationally emotional, etc. I really love every video you've done [ehh, I'm new, but easily a dozen], and even the "boring topic" ones and those on topics that I don't know about at all. [Totally called it in the film editing video. I felt like a damn genius when I said "dissolve" with you. Is there anything "Spaceballs" *can't* teach us? I wish you'd done one here, just to say, "Nice dissolve."] * This comment best viewed like a Star Wars opening crawl.
@UDontTakeMeSeriously
@UDontTakeMeSeriously 5 лет назад
Oh my god thank you for validating my feelings because literally everyone around me thinks this movie is perfect
@c8youtube9
@c8youtube9 5 лет назад
An absolutely fantastic video
@UltimateKyuubiFox
@UltimateKyuubiFox 5 лет назад
Speaking of technological nostalgia, I wasn’t expecting to get the warm and fuzzies by seeing you use puppets again for this.
@sebastianemanuelsson7846
@sebastianemanuelsson7846 5 лет назад
Aww yiss!
@golgarisoul
@golgarisoul 5 лет назад
Funny. I too was chugging a whole carton of 'nog earlier today as well.
@CollinGerberding
@CollinGerberding 5 лет назад
I keep seeing (and hearing) you in other peoples' stuff (not a complaint). Super cool to see a new release.
@Romancefantasy
@Romancefantasy 5 лет назад
I love this movie so much. It reminds me of what it’s like to be a kid even though I grew up in the 80’s and in the ghetto. Some people get it and some people don’t.
@SolveForX
@SolveForX 5 лет назад
“Movie didn’t reflect real life for anyone.” “I wasn’t even born yet in the time the movie is placed.” ........? I always felt the story aptly reflected quite a lot of childhood goings ons around Christmas. The problem with your assessment is that you’re giving nostalgia way too much credit. Watching Thundercats today doesn’t fill me with anything. Despite having loved Thundercats growing up. I watch A Christmas Story once per year, and I enjoy it *as the film*. I also enjoy it *because* my parents have always gotten a kick out of it because *they* (not you or me) actually lives through a time where the comedy and goings ons were very reminiscent of the life they lived. Again, maybe it’s the Canadian vs American thing? But my parents actually *do* see this film as being representative of their childhoods. And I do see some similarity to Ralphy in being a kid and hoping for a specific toy. Merry Christmas
@allanolley4874
@allanolley4874 5 лет назад
I am pretty sure its not a Canadian v. American thing because plenty of Canadians consider it a Christmas classic etc. (may be an urban v. rural thing, I have no data on that, remember he said his parents were from rural Canada). Also large bits of it were filmed in Canada suggesting a similarity...
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