This thing is going to be a phenomenal investment for your channel. I’ve seen some videos on the decent and man, I think you’re just simply going to love this thing!
Good investment. I got a Decent XL 2 months ago as my first espresso machine. Been learning so much already. The real time data and feedback has really helped me up my game. Even tried pour overs and it was delicious. Can’t wait to see all the content you will make with this beauty!
Wow what a coincidence, I also got this exact machine last week!!! I am pretty excited to see the king of videos you'll be doing in the future. Cheers!
On my opinion, for this money, the Decent is the feature king. It might not be the most pretty or classic looking machine, but as you said, for experimenting and trying new things out it is perfect!
You'll love it! I got one myself earlier this year and I think it was hands down one of the best investments I've ever made. Definitely a coffee geeks wet dream!
I unboxed my first machine last night, a gaggia classic pro hopefully in a few years I ll upgrade to a decent. Looking forward to the content you will be uploading with this beast. Hope it will bring you many subs and the investment pays off 👍
Congratulations! The possibilities of this machine is quite remarkable, and I am so glad for you. The default profile is the same as most espresso machine and they're great as a starting point. I bought an XL thinking that I could 'just' make a good coffee for me. Learning to dial in, via dose, yield, time and weight. After 200++ shots on mine, I came to realize that this machine actually helped me understand so much about.. coffee itself. The coffee region, roast level and also the importance of grind setting, relation of pressure and flow rate to the cup quality. For example, on a medium roast beans, I can count on a 1.5ml-2ml preinfusion stage, and a 2.5ml ish extraction stage will yield me a great tasting espresso, in which I could probably not know had I stuck myself with my Flair Pro 2. The future is also very exciting. People can make their own profile, in one instance i saw someone making what's akin to a "quality control profile". If you grind too coarse, the profile would realize by detecting a higher flow rate in the pre-infusion stage and compensates by lowering pressure (e.g 6-7 bars) to rescue the cup from becoming undrinkable. If the grind setting is too fine, the profile allows for a higher flow rate to compensate. I absolutely agree that this is a great learning machine! Please explore its versatility. And also get a bluetooth scale so you can stop automatically on weight. The decent scale is very well priced, while felicita arc and acaia lunars are known to perform well with the machine with interesting price points.
The most unexpected perk so far! It's a rally nice suitcase, haha. Not to mention bringing it to other locations around the city, or a cottage, will be a breeze!
Very nice machine...I was about to pull the trigger at 1st but I took into consideration some things (at least for me) like Serviceability, Ease of use, Upgradability, Customization. Finally I settled for the Profitec Pro 500 PID as it is E61, less expensive, great temperature stability, flow control, Wood finish (at a future date). But this is a very nice machine...
Congrats on getting a Decent! It’s my dream machine, but way more than I would consider spending on coffee gear. I believe that Decent is truly driving espresso forward with their software and hardware innovation. The software -driven approach is for sure the future. I’m now doing a little DYI project, putting a microcontroller in my Silvia. My aim is to get temperature and pressure control, plus gravimetric dosing.
Your investment already got you another subscriber. I've been watching your videos over the pandemic and have been watching a lot of Decent videos over the last few months. I think the biggest negative for me is probably the sound the Decent makes, but that isn't a deal-breaker.
I started with a flair and decided to upgrade to a decent espresso machine as well. I’m new to the espresso game and really wanted to learn how to pull a ‘decent’ (pun intended). The only logical way to achieve this, it appeared, was with the information provided by this machine. I’m wondering why you did not use a scale when you pulled that first shot and how the shot tasted? I’m looking forward to following you on this channel to see future videos using the decent machine. I feel this is going to be an interesting journey. Thanks for the video.
I've bought two machines that you've recommended. As a favor to my personal finances and my marriage, I'm skipping this video. 😁 Congratulations on a great piece of kit.
I’m 27, i get into speciality coffee maybe 2 years ago, beginning with pour overs, and i get a Flair 58 on June this year, few months after i bought a X54, i feel so glad to having this. And i feel lucky too cause I’m 27, the flair 58 was announced at the exact same time i was looking to buy the flair pro 2, and i feel so lucky, especially thinking that what my parents or grandparents could have at the same age as mine. For now my budget is not matching that kind of machine but it is a real goal for me, since the day I’ve seen some review of the Decent Machines, i felt in love and felt the same way they announced the flair 58 for the first time. I might get it in few years maybe 5, and in 5 years, at the time where the coffee industry gives more and more innovations , i am really wondering what would be my purchased.
It’s a perfect choice for your channel and I hope it is profitable for you. I have a dual boiler E61, so I’m set for life. But I am looking forward to learning from your upcoming videos. You do a great job!
huh, this was the exact same path I took. I was looking for something that wouldn't feel like a downgrade from the Flair and this was really the only option when I bought it.
Looks just gorgeous and high quality. Definitely a bit different from the other prosumer machines- a welcome change actually. Have a great time with it and can’t wait to hear more of your observations. Thanks for sharing your excitement straight-away. I actually appreciate the real-life element to this video. As a human, I can relate 😆
It's very very well built indeed! These unboxings are always a fun opportunity to go unscripted and connect with everyone watching. I really enjoy that!
This machine looks incredible. I'm jumping in to espresso this week with the Silvia Pro and I've got my sights on this as a reward if I stick with the craft for a while. Excited to follow along your journey with it.
Suction cup feet is a good idea for a machine that is not heavy enough to not dance on the countertop. Have seen this happen with many inexpensive home machines. Porcelain tank and tray good idea adds weight and wont rust. The Decent costs less than a Linea Mini and does much more in terms of flow/pressure stuff.
If you have a tablet or even from your phone, you can load the decent app into your tablet/phone and start pulling shots from there. Check the decent diaspora for links on how to download and install the app. Hopefully that you have a spare android tablet/phone that is and not apple. The default profile is probably a 9-bar with declining pressure, but because you don't have a scale, I think the machine don't know when to stop. But since you are working blind, you could just put the cup on a scale and stop the brew accordingly to the weight you want
I hope one day I'll be able to grab one of these! 10 years on I'm sure it'll still be running here on the channel and maybe they'll be cheaper haha. What a great machine, hopefully the tablet arrives soon so you can play with it!
Kid in a candy store, but also a kid with a big mountain to climb! A lot to digest and wrap my head around with this one (once the tablet issue is sorted out). Yes, this is a true engineers espresso machine 😉
@@LifestyleLab_ I own a Rocket Mozzafiato type R and really happy with it. But starting over, I would buy a Flair 58 just for the pressure control. (more of an Americano guy anyway). My next adventure….coffee roasting! Love your channel. Keep up the good work. ☕️
I'm jealous.. there.. I said it. Honestly, if money was no object this is it for me. I'm way more of a coffee nerd looking for precise and repeatable data than fancy looking machines. For now I'll stick to my BDB until maybe one day... Looking forward to see your videos working with the Decent!
Hello there since you bought a decent I have a question about steam flow rate in the decent I want to reduce it to match breville bambino steam flow rate because I can't steam yet in the decent Looking forward for your decent reviews
Hope you do a flair 58 and Decent compare. I am looking to make my first machine purchase and the Flair 58 vs. Decent is oddly or not so oddly what I am evaluating.
Flair 58 is very good, you just don’t have the same options for temp control or odd ratios (like turbo shots). They really aren’t comparable honestly, but that doesn’t take away from the flair. The decent is just amazing--can adapt to full range of roasts, is ready to brew in a few minutes, has very consistent steam etc.
Is all of them an answer? Haha But seriously, the Decent can effectively replicated a pressure/flow/temperature profile of any machine past present and future, so I don't think any grinder is necessarily "right" for this machine. Thank being said, I'll primarily be using the Niche, X54, and maybe some DF64 sprinked in
@@LifestyleLab_ lucky you man, I have been thinking on getting a Niche but I live in Mexico making the import process very difficult, you know for making better espresso in my Picopresso 😂
A picopresso and a Niche might be a bit of a mismatch! Haha If you're already okay with the workflow of a manual espresso system, why not a manual grinder? Much better bang for your buck!
Congrats! The Decent is my end game machine. It's truly the antithesis of the past direction of espresso: bigger, more boilers, shinier. All that is great for high volume cafes that need to pull the exact same shot time and again, but get in the way for home users that want to pull 3 different kinds of shots at odd times of the day. I'll be watching your upcoming videos, jealously and working out where a Decent would fit in my small kitchen :) On simultaneous brew and steam, also something that always struck me as odd for home users. Makes complete sense for a cafe to get drinks out quick, but for a home machine with flow control, you'd need three hands to pressure profile and steam simultaneously
@@LifestyleLab_ Haha don't tempt me! I'll have to stay content with my Robot and Europiccola until I buy a house with a proper basement to build my Coffee Research Institute
I've got S/N #003 of the Decent, and it has been going strong for 3+ years. Endless possibilities for experimentation and there are a lot of things I haven't tested or explored yet. One of the most interesting question I have is around temperature profiling - that is adjusting shot temp throughout a pull. I've yet to really toy with this in any great way, but I do wonder if ramping up or down the temp throughout a pull makes a noticeable difference.
biggest concern with the Decent: are you afraid of obsolescence? given the company is relatively small with a super niche audience and current global supply-chain issues example, I'd have no fear of buying a $10K LaMarzocco machine and being able to have it repaired or fixed in 5-10 years from now, but can't say the same with the Decent
Personally, no I'm not. With the size of the community already built around the product, even if the company were to go somewhere I think there are enough third party contributors / developers to keep everything running / updating
They are handling the supply issues pretty damn well so far - some great decisions on John’s end. The expected upkeep of a Linea Mini or GS3 is way higher than on a Decent. LaMarzoccos home machines are known to have serious reliability issues and parts are expensive. I love them for their external build, design, heritage but if you drink light roasts, they can’t keep up with the Decent in the cup. I owned those LM machines and moved to the DE1XXL now - let’s see how that goes 🥳
right now if a LM breaks or a Decent you will get your decent fixed way before your more expesive LM or other old brands. They are on the market since 2017 so it's already ~5 years almost. They dont plan to go anywhere, they are selling well and doing great, in commercial too, where the machines are stressed way more than your average 2-6 shots a day at home.
My only mod is using the ECM portafilter from my Classica machine. I prefer its looks to the wooden handle on the Decent and also removed the group head handle as it's not necessary whatsoever. Not a fan of those wooden handles from Decent as I consider them ugly. My one and only complaint regarding Decent gear. Machine is now 14 months old and I've never had it so good. Lovely machine! Just started playing around with the adaptive profile and got a new tablet sent because of battery swelling. I've decided to unplug the tab from time to time to allow battery to get used properly. Not good for lithium battery to stay at 100% at all times. Tab should have better battery management software. I can go from complete shutoff on the Decent to extracting to the cup quicker than regular warmup on my ECM machine. IMO, any coffee reviewer must have a Decent machine. To not makes them dated and irrelevant. Your tab being DOA is awful!!! Should never, ever, ever happen!
I just got my Barista Pro 2 weeks ago and Still struggling to dial in. I can get a pretty average shot but not a great shot yet. I even ordered the Normcore products like distrubitor, spring tamper to make my puck great. Waiting for it to arrive! This was after watching your video. I even ordered the bottomless portafilter form Normcore to see if there is any channeling in my shots. Would be amazing if you can make a video on how to get the best espresso shot on the Barista Pro machine!
@@bilalsyed1542 he made a phenomenal video showing exactly how to dial in a shot on a Barista Pro. Just search for it within the list of videos. It’s truly spectacular and helped me 💯. LMK if you have trouble finding it, and good luck!
@@LifestyleLab_ I typed my comment a little too early. You did indeed mention this in the video! Great video. I can't wait to see what else you have planned for this machine.
Sounds during brewing / steaming are certainly one thing. But curious to know what you mean by "general feel"? The machine is entirely metal, wood, and ceramic, very well built.
@@LifestyleLab_ I am an iOS developer. So programming all day and Decent with the tablet and graphs and all that - it gives me the same vibe. It’s super subjective thing but I love the fine tunning the shot by feel, makes for a different experience in a day. Knobs, levers, all that jazz.
I am testing the Decent for a friend of mine. For any reason, he disconnected it for a certain period of time. Result, the tablet died itself, as yours. It is only 2 months old! Sounds for me the tablet brand Decent is using is shit and cheap quality, not to say crap. I was frustrated, as you should have been, to not know the latest setup recorded in it. So by the time I will receive the replacement tablet, this high technology machine is useless. Otherwise, a lot of fun in perspective, with a usable tablet. So, keep in mind, the tablet shall always be charged, unless it will die!! Weird isn’t it?
if you are letting a battery go under a certain level, you wont be able to charge it back up. These things are not ment to sit for months w/o charge. If your car battery goes under a certain voltage for sitting for 1 year, you wont be able to charge it back. Simple as that.
@@deenman60 Get you. I own 2 cameras and PlayStation remote disconnected over 2 years and still powering up, even keeping charge for a reasonable time. They are not dead. Do you consider a brand new tablet disconnected for 2 month old then dead, a high quality product? Sorry but I don’t.
Any water tank you can fill from the front of the machine is a win in my books! But I was definitely expecting the drip tray to be a bit more secure, especially given it's breakable nature
@@LifestyleLab_ The single boiler won’t be an issue ? You said it is quite fast but enough to handle a commercial use ? By the way i know one barista having a Cafe Racer 2g and a Decent XXL on the side for special coffee pair with a Ditting grinder.
Italian baristas from 60 years back would toss and turn in their graves if I told them the price of this machine, Ludicrous. Thanks for sharing as this will help many avoid the same mistake.
Not sure I'm understanding this comment. This machine isn't targeted at baristas 60 years ago. Although it can replicate a traditional flat 9 bar Italian shot ;)
It certainly does make quite the racket. The noise your hearing is the machine's pumps constantly adjusting and reacting to maintain the desired pressure, temperature and / or flow rate
